ndPeter:



So, the prediction in Revelations is just a possibility then?

Owliver:
then you are a fool. we are talking mainly about god's will or destiny not humans will here.

did you have to go read my previous post and use that against me? that says alit about you. stupid idiot.

slowpoke like you parading as defender of god.

Richydos:

U just said God knew Adam will be sinning n though he gave him d freewill of making his decision...... N if God truly knew he was gonna sin against him... Y banish n curse him when he actually sinned.... Can u pls explain

gabazin080:
but this still doesn't answer my above question 4 u.
even terrorist and fake prophets everywhere should not be blamed because it has already been written that all this will happen in the endtime

Sugarhugs:



I don't have to argue with a fool

nairalandbuzz:


I don't have to exchange abusive words with you. Only a fool would do that.

Go back to our chain of discussions...

BABANGBALI:
sister funke,na wa for you o,fine you no fine,simple English you no sabi write. See as you just dey murder English. Abeg go buy me Panadol jo

BABANGBALI:
sister funke,na wa for you o,fine you no fine,simple English you no sabi write. See as you just dey murder English. Abeg go buy me Panadol jo

BABANGBALI:
sister funke,na wa for you o,fine you no fine,simple English you no sabi write. See as you just dey murder English. Abeg go buy me Panadol jo

malvisguy212:
Read the story of the prodigal son, did the father love the child ? Yes, when the child ask for his inheritance, even when the father knows , the boy is making a big mistake, did he interfere in his decision ? No, he allow the boy to make the mistake so that he will learn, hoping the son will return one day.

malvisguy212:
you are not destined to sin ,why? Because,God will not interfere in your decision(freewill) to sin or not to sin.

Kennedyiheme:
F**oolish Nigerian youth, I just got off an American forum where people discuss about innovative things..... people donating money to fund a special project.... but here on nairaland on Sunday, the stupi.d ones talk about rubbish.... i*diots.. you all have being doing this Christianity thing since 1909, nothing positive has come out of it... no wonder Africa is so backward... the other day our president used over 2b naira to go and pray.... have you ever heard Obama going for special prayer? Africa is cursed with stupid people..... this topic is so dull and and dumb.... na WA for you Christians.... you will continue remaining stupid af...... young people are already planning on building a time machine, while you silly set of clowns are talking about if God programmes people..... I weep for all of u

LucifersTongue:


It's funny how I just made this same kinda reply on the "... who created God" thread. These people keep wasting their time arguing about nonsense.

Richydos:

U that u read d story so well.... When d son returned n asked for forgiveness, was he banished or cursed
THE point u peeps are not convincingly making is dat God Knew Adam was going to sin..... If that be d case, Y banish him when he is aware such thing will surely happen..... He saw it n it happened n thus dt makes him God.... Y banish him when he knows it's gonna happen

Youngmaster0:



N if God truly knew he was gonna sin against him... Y banish n curse him when he actually sinned.... Can u pls explain

Because God knows that Adam has the freewill not to commit that sin atol

Youngmaster0:



N if God truly knew he was gonna sin against him... Y banish n curse him when he actually sinned.... Can u pls explain

Because God knows that Adam has the freewill not to commit that sin atol

Kennedyiheme:
my brother I am just tired of this lunatics...... I am not into science but I love it, I decided to bring some science students together and we fund projects, but no one was interested, you still see the same set of people saying rubbish here.....'if God programmes people, just plain stupidity.....I was watching a channel on YouTube and found 4 young lads working on a time machine... Zuckerberg started Facebook at a young age..... people twice his age still sleep on church 2 hours of there life yet they don't even make 20k monthly...... prayers will never change africa.... our brains will... sadly people have sold their brains to religion, like 90perce t of people here on nairaland

michaelwestern:
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Boboye4slim:


If I'm a loving father, and u knew my son was heading the wrong path I would do something to correct him before he failed. I'm not gonna wait till he failed so as to curse and banish him

Youngmaster0:


My dear friend God hardly interferes in the affairs of man, so that not tomorrow man will blame God for his wrong doing just as u are trying to do. But he has given man upon birth The Strength which is the (Holy Spirit) to overcome all temptation that he may face once he prays, that why we need to be prayerful and the Grace and Fortitude to endure all we may experience here on earth.

JOB and JESUS in the Bible were tempted to forsake God, while God watches and do nothing. But the pray for strength. Had Job and Jesus fall is not the will of God but their will. But the overcomed. God is just watching us from a distance if you need strength pray for it

So brother for man to fall into temptation even from the creation of this world which is Adam is accountable for his sins become he had he freewill.

So i leave you with these thought "God does not predestined Man future Man predestines his Future, God is just watching waiting for the end.

Funkybabee:



and bro 'gboranmideleru' what consigned you with it. shey I talk to u ni abi why u carry my matter for head like poly trash. and i know before u said that u would have check most of my text, but mind u my first lazy in academy is typing even I don't fit like to write note when I dey school u better go get paracetamol or actified code for ur headache

smh;!!!

Boboye4slim:



You're a fool for calling us lunatics. What nonsense is that. How many of us do you know personally here? Since when has discussing about issues that affect our lives turn a crime. Must we all share with you how we are doing our best to improve things the little way we can. Can we all be scientist. I'm a sociology lecturer I know what I've done to affect people's lives around me. Don't come here and call me a lunatic for voicing my opinions. The Americans you mentioned are the most active on this kind of debate. Stop being bitter and get a life.

Funkybabee:




obi odun'' ofe ke

warrah:
Freewill in man is like a two pronged fork. Either one a man chooses has a predetermied end which God knows.
God who is omnipresent already knows where a man would end up by the choices he makes everyday in life.
It's not as if God already knows you will sin, but he has given man the free will to choose between evil and good.

malvisguy212:
you are not destined to sin ,why? Because,God will not interfere in your decision(freewill) to sin or not to sin.

Strawman:


Don't get me wrong. I meant that when we have different options, God already knows exactly what we will eventually choose, but it doesn't mean that we couldn't have chosen the other options. We have the natural ability to have chosen any of them (I.e. free will), but God (being omniscient) knows exactly where decisions made out of our free will will take us. I don't know if you get what I'm saying; I believe it's basically the same thing you're saying but we got off somewhere.

gabazin080:
i used to hear people say dis always. when something happened you see people say its GOD, that God knows about it. they say he already knows and has programmed everything that will happen to humans. if this is true then it means if I sin now he already knows I will. it means he already knows I will create this topic today. it also means am not @ fault for any sin I commit because he has already programmed my activities and know I will sin.
I asked my boss who happens to be a pastor dis question and his reply didn't answer my question. so nairalanders I want your views on this. is it true GOD has known everything that will happen to us

Kennedyiheme:
what useful thing have you done today other than arguing if "god programme you"? even if you are not a scientist, there are productice things you can do to help yourself , people arounf you and nigeria... colllectively if we all use our brains nigeria would become a better place..... but idiots like you come on this forum everyday to say shit..... how has this your religion helped nigeria? majority of you here are all foolss... as a matter of fact 90percent are......... if you continue this stupidity and dont make money and be successful, your children will curse you till the day they bury you 6ft.... productive minds dont talk about sh*it like this, most of you are dullards..... eistein said doing the same thing over and over again and you still expect different result is foolishnesss... get yourself together, i belive you are too old to talk about pointless matters like this...... respect your old age sir, you are a f*ool sir