thegoodjoehunt3:
I believed Dr Agbalaka as soon ask saw his results on Frank Olize's NewsLine.

He never came second, his exam scripts were almost perfect, if not perfect. He is a pure genius.

If he believed what he has done was enough, why did he come out to ask for help?

He needed financial support but he got a ban.

plaetton:

I was o top of that story from beginning to end.
Big laugh.
If he had patent for his formulation, kindly give me the patent number.
Also, if he had a patent, the why hasn't he either sold it for billions to a multinational drug company or gotten them to sponsor clinical trials of his formulation ?
Pls apply common sense here.

All the government asked was for him to stop selling the concoction till further scientific testing and trials were done.
Simple.
I keep asking, why do we Nigerians demand an exception to everything?

plaetton:


Oh gosh.
Who cares what you believed

We are talking about science, public health, ethics and the law.

Which part of that don't you understand?

thegoodjoehunt3:
He made a breakthrough he believed in. You expect him to throw his report away? As I said it is people like you that allow things like this happen.

Note, we are talking of a former best graduating student of a med school as popular as Ahmadu Bello.

There is no way he would not continue if the government refused to support him.

thegoodjoehunt3:
He disclosed that various agencies of federal government, including its hospitals, had purchased the vaccines from him and applied them on their own patients who had HIV and many were cured.
http://www.punchng.com/news/court-lifts-ban-on-abalakas-hiv-vaccines

Please, what does curative vaccine involve, is it not taken serums from infected bodies.

Read the articles and stop talking long story.

I showed you a doctor in Marcelle have been given money to do this research. What else do you want?

Support his research and not ban it. Haba.

adconline:
Nigerians manufacturing stupidity since 1000BC! How many clinical trials have been conducted with this "drug"? How many peer-reviewed researches have been carried out with this "drug"
Court is not the best place to get approval while there are other agencies like NAFDAC, NMA etc.

thegoodjoehunt3:
He said he applied for the patent of the discovery and was granted on July 22, 1999.
http://www.punchng.com/news/court-lifts-ban-on-abalakas-hiv-vaccines

So you think in sixteen years, the judge did not check the patent? Na wa for you.

thegoodjoehunt3:
How can he conduct clinical trials if held banned from using it.

thegoodjoehunt3:
You were talking about those who believe in his claims. I explained why. He is a pure genius.

Do you think you know more about Medical Ethics than a man who finished as the best graduating Medical student of Ahmadu Bello University and made distinctions in his advanced courses?

all4naija:
Why didn't the federal agencies come forward to testify to his claim and the process if it is really ethical and qualified for what it is meant to address? It must follow rules:

1) What are the names of federal agencies and condition of their facilities like, the process and methodology used to validate the tests of the vaccine?

2) Presentation of documented information of the individuals claimed to be having HIV/AIDS health and reports from lab who carried their HIV/AIDS test.

3) Who are those who the vaccine have helped to regain their immune system and what is their health background before now.

4) How many rigorous clinical tests has he carried out and from which lab?

5) Does the vaccine work for all kinds of HIV cases?

6) What is his qualifications in the area of virology and immunology?

7) Why do the court has to legalize the vaccine without hearing from the scientific community? That is the saddest part of it.

8.) Under what best practice can he guarantee that his vaccine is not having any thing beyond therapeutic effects on those administered the vaccine. And many more.

Not until he can provide irrefutable evidence there is no jurisdiction that should grant him the right to produce such vaccine and use it on Nigerians without providing information on the adverse effect.

I can only support him if he has shown us the reason to do so not what the court is doing. We have seen how he has peddled falsehood about his claim of curing AIDS in the past only to see that he was lying.

thegoodjoehunt3:
How can he conduct clinical trials if held banned from using it.

plaetton:


Oh gosh agsin!

Well , I have not done the clearly illegal, immoral and unethical practice of hawking non- clinically tested formulation on ignorant and desperate sick people for 70k.
Where were his professional ethics then?
He behaved like a typical Nigerian fraudster, not a trained and experienced medical practitioner.

thegoodjoehunt3:
If Vaccine can not cure, explain the meaning of curative vaccine.

NIH administers $4.8 million to study 'curative' rabies vaccine

Sep 01, 2011
By Rachael Zimlich
http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/nih-administers-48-million-study-curative-rabies-vaccine

pazienza:
Nigerians and their PHD ( Pull Him Down) syndrome .

Dr Abalaka is too brilliant to be speculating on things he isnt sure of. I believed in him right from the start. Just like that Uni Ben professor that came up with a similar breakthrough but was stifled.


Too many conspiracies involved with HIV saga.

spikesC:
The Nigerian populace has always been against innovative development. The idea of "if a white man couldn't do it, then we can't and should never even think about it" has plagued the country.

And they ask, why are we not a manufacturing country

plaetton:


I repeat for the third time.
He was banned from selling it.
He could've conducted clinical trials since then.
He could have partnered with local or foreign pharmaceutical companies since then?

What about his patient list?
He could re evaluate them now to see how many are alive and virus free.
couldn't he have done that over the past 16 yrs?

all4naija:
You are very funny! What is curative vaccine in the first case? You are very fond of using terms differently from what it is meant for. Even the link you posted is a study into that particular vaccine and nothing has come out of it since then. I can't wrap my head around why you have to go against the lay-down rules by the science community that knows a tad more than you and I arguing here. We are talking about public health here.

all4naija:
I have read most of your links and it is funny how the blinded court is ignoring ethics on public health and giving order to legalize something that is not even well tested. It doesn't work that way. He has been looking for other bodies to join him in further testing and finding yet the vaccine is already legalized by the court. What a way to go in that nation?

thegoodjoehunt3:


You are the funny one here. Let me help you.

Curative means ability to cure especially a disease. A curative vaccine is a vaccine that has the ability to cure, especially a disease.

So can a vaccine have the ability to cure? Yes.

all4naija:
He speculated in the past! Have you forgotten?

thegoodjoehunt3:
You do not know more about ethics than the judge on the case. Who polices bodies like Nafdac?

thegoodjoehunt3:

Abalaka, an Abuja based medical practitioner, had challenged NAFDAC for banning him from using the vaccines
http://www.punchng.com/news/court-lifts-ban-on-abalakas-hiv-vaccines

He was banned from using it. Not just selling.

all4naija:
Just like that!Zero! Zip! You see how you are blinding yourself to the reality of things. There is no curative vaccine in existence. It is only a study! Take it or leave it!

pazienza:


See them! PHD holders.

Abalaka matches on, you lots only succeeded in delaying him, but he won't be denied.

all4naija:
Just like that!Zero! Zip! You see how you are blinding yourself to the reality of things. There is no curative vaccine in existence. It is only a study! Take it or leave it!

plaetton:


My friend, pls apply common sense.
Selling it is the same as using it.

Secondly, do you know the meaning of vaccines?
Pls google it.
A vaccine is used to prevent a disease or infection, not to cure a diseased condition.

The only way you know that a vaccine is effective is by a large scientific testing spanning 2 yrs or more.
Stop arguing on silly sentiments.

plaetton:


Just imagine the kind people we are wasting time arguing with. He doesn't even know what a vaccine is.

thegoodjoehunt3:
You are funny. Explain what the ZMapp serum is?

You can say no approved Curative Vaccine but do not say there is no curative vaccine in existence.

Please research ZMapp.

thegoodjoehunt3:
Are you saying a curative vaccine is not a vaccine? Yes or no.

all4naija:
Bwahaha... ZMAPP is never a cure but a vaccine meant to boost the immune system against the Ebola virus. Not because they say American doctors have be cured means it cured them but it helps them to boost their immune system to fight the virus and regain their health to function normally.

You are the one who needs to research on it not me.