Timbuktou:

You probably long since realised that Carefreewannabe assumes that as she is well educated, highly paid and able to live an independent life in a liberal progresssive country, the age-old biological and cultural imperatives, and nuances of the male/female dynamic no longer apply to her - or at least can be re-ordered to her wishes.


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Timbuktou:
Olodo, I said look up not look it up. You see yourself. How do I know you aren't a feminist troll robot sef? smh

my wife's good by the way, just spoke to her. Haven't seen her in weeks and I miss her crazy. Meanwhile, I'm not eager to have daughters, I'll take five boys, though.

Since you are not able to give reasons for opinion, there is nothing left to say.

TV01:

You probably long since realised that Carefreewannabe assumes that as she is well educated, highly paid and able to live an independent life in a liberal progresssive country, the age-old bilological and cultural imperatives, and nuances of the male/female dynamic no longer apply to her - or at least can be re-ordered to her wishes.


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How is it related to the discussion?

TV01:

You probably long since realised that Carefreewannabe assumes that as she is well educated, highly paid and able to live an independent life in a liberal progressive country, the age-old biological and cultural imperatives, and nuances of the male/female dynamic no longer apply to her - or at least can be re-ordered to her wishes.


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Egbon, don't mind this gyal. She apparently hasn't read 2Cor 13:8. I think, deep down, she's looking for answers, or at least, trying to confirm or sway her outlook. I'm only tryna help a sister.

Timbuktou:
Egbon, don't mind this gyal. She apparently hasn't read 2Cor 13:8. I think, deep down, she's looking for answers, or at least, trying to confirm or sway her outlook. I'm only tryna help a sister.

I don't follow medieval teachings blindly, God gave me a well-functioning brain.

carefreewannabe:


Since you are not able to give reasons for opinion, there is nothing left to say.

First of all, Carefree, you're floating about this thread with a pseudo-opinion. You claim to be of a reasonably high IQ, you should be able to deduce my point or the process of coming to my conclusions. Even if you can't, I remember referring you to the boys' thread which you claimed you'd read and come upon my position on this matter.
my point? I have gone into detailed explanations on this issue, I don't want to go through that activity right now or any time soon. I'm not in the mood. If you're feeling too lazy to read, it's not my fault.

If you want education, I'm under no obligation to split your head open and funnel knowledge into it. If you don't have any interest in going there, don't call me on this thread anymore.

Timbuktou:
Egbon, don't mind this gyal. She apparently hasn't read 2Cor 13:8. I think, deep down, she's looking for answers, or at least, trying to confirm or sway her outlook. I'm only tryna help a sister.

You can see it in lots of the posts here. Granted, there are things badly practiced and abuses, but the core models and morés are what works best - for most individuals and more pertinently for society as a whole.

I feel for them, but more for those who are in situations that don't afford them the same leeway but choose to tread the same path. I also had to seek answers. I hope they find them before it's too late. Hitting the wall or working with unrealistic expectations can be very painful.


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Timbuktou:
First of all, Carefree, you're floating about this thread with a pseudo-opinion. You claim to be of a reasonably high IQ, you should be able to deduce my point or the process of coming to my conclusions. Even if you can't, I remember referring you to the boys' thread which you claimed you'd read and come upon my position on this matter.
my point? I have gone into detailed explanations on this issue, I don't want to go through that activity right now or any time soon. I'm not in the mood. If you're feeling too lazy to read, it's not my fault.

If you want education, I'm under no obligation to split your head open and funnel knowledge into it. If you don't have any interest in going there, don't call me on this thread anymore.

carefreewannabe:


I don't follow medieval teachings blindly, God gave me a well-functioning brain.

It apparently hasn't functioned to the point of noticing that women generally/mostly/would rather/tend to marry up given the choice, of course. You don't have to follow this submission blindly, do the research yourself. Research, after all, is an activity carried out by people with functional brains.

Timbuktou:
First of all, Carefree, you're floating about this thread with a pseudo-opinion. You claim to be of a reasonably high IQ, you should be able to deduce my point or the process of coming to my conclusions. Even if you can't, I remember referring you to the boys' thread which you claimed you'd read and come upon my position on this matter.
my point? I have gone into detailed explanations on this issue, I don't want to go through that activity right now or any time soon. I'm not in the mood. If you're feeling too lazy to read, it's not my fault.

If you want education, I'm under no obligation to split your head open and funnel knowledge into it. If you don't have any interest in going there, don't call me on this thread anymore.

Ok, I will quote you on another. I like you.

Timbuktou:
It apparently hasn't functioned to the point of noticing that women generally/mostly/would rather/tend to marry up given the choice, of course. You don't have to follow this submission blindly, do the research yourself. Research, after all, is an activity carried out by people with functional brains.

So if a woman marries a man who is better educated and earns more she is inferior, right?

Is a man who marries a woman who is better educated and earns more also inferior to his wife?

TV01:

You can see it in lots of the posts here. Granted, there are things badly practiced and abuses, but the core models and morés are what works best - for most individuals and more pertinently for society as a whole.

I feel for them, but more for those who are in situations that don't afford them the same leeway but choose to tread the same path. I also had to seek answers. I hope they find them before it's too late. Hitting the wall or working with unrealistic expectations can be very painful.


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Painful, indeed. I also had to find out the haarrrrd way. Already married, in fact. So, imagine my dilemma and subsequent awakening. I speak of things I have practised and lived not regurgitating some strange distant theory.

I'm not too particular about women, though. My concern is channelled towards men as we are the default leaders of society. Throwing away our mantle of authority on the alter of pseudo-equality does noone any favours.

Timbuktou:
It apparently hasn't functioned to the point of noticing that women generally/mostly/would rather/tend to marry up given the choice, of course. You don't have to follow this submission blindly, do the research yourself. Research, after all, is an activity carried out by people with functional brains.

Who would deny this? And all the attendant implications?

What I'd really like to see is someone who lives in this alternate universe come and tell us all about it .


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obowunmi:


How is he irresponsible if the women consented to have babies with him? That's unfair.

this is no different to asking, how is a 40 year old irresponsible for sleeping with a 13 year old if she consents. Use your head joor, is it okay to kill a man because he asked you to?

carefreewannabe:


So if a woman marries a man who is better educated and earns more she is inferior, right?

Is a man who marries a woman who is better educated and earns more also inferior to his wife?

In that sense, she is. However, that's not all that's required to be a superior partner. Consider factors like intellect, leadership skill, efficiency, charisma, etc. The headship of the home isn't just about money,mind you. Who does the buck ultimately stop with? Carefree, you'll troll me to death.

kandiikane:

this is no different to asking, how is a 40 year old irresponsible for sleeping with a 13 year old if she consents. Use your head joor, is it okay to kill a man because he asked you to?

Your examples don't make sense.

Anne Idibia is an adult, Tuface is an adult, what does this have to do with rape or child abuse.

kandiikane:

this is no different to asking, how is a 40 year old irresponsible for sleeping with a 13 year old if she consents. Use your head joor, is it okay to kill a man because he asked you to?

In countries where the age of consent is 12, would it be wrong to sleep with a 13 year old? Because that would mean those who sleep with 18 year olds in the US are irresponsible considering the age of consent in some countries is 21. :/

kandiikane:

this is no different to asking, how is a 40 year old irresponsible for sleeping with a 13 year old if she consents. Use your head joor, is it okay to kill a man because he asked you to?

I asked Sophyrocks to define irresponsible and she couldnt?

Is not agreeing with someone's lifestyle and choices, make them irresponsible? If so, who made you the judge?

TV01:

Who would deny this? And all the attendant implications?

What I'd really like to see is someone who lives in this alternate universe come and tell us all about it .


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Don't hold your breath. This women are just being women. Deep down, they know how things go. They probably just don't want the secret exposed for fear of being victims of their own schemes.

Timbuktou:
Painful, indeed. I also had to find out the haarrrrd way. Already married, in fact. So, imagine my dilemma and subsequent awakening. I speak of things I have practised and lived not regurgitating some strange distant theory.

Already married? You tried 0! It simply took me that much longer to actually get married. Alls well that ends well sha!

I often say (in boxing), there are two ways to learn, the hard way and the painful way - take your pick. But getting this wrong can be hard and painful.

Timbuktou:
I'm not too particular about women, though. My concern is channelled towards men as we are the default leaders of society. Throwing away our mantle of authority on the alter of pseudo-equality does noone any favours.

Likewise.


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Timbuktou:
In that sense, she is. However, that's not all that's required to be a superior partner. Consider factors like intellect, leadership skill, efficiency, charisma, etc. The headship of the home isn't just about money,mind you. Who does the buck ultimately stop with? Carefree, you'll troll me to death.

@bold

Feel honored.

@rest

So you agree a wife can be superior? Good. I will stop stalking you for now.

sandiyke:
In the begining it was one man one woman, and I think it should remain so.

It gives peace of mind and makes a man live longer.

Does research support this hypothesis?

TV01:

Already married? You tried 0! It simply took me that much longer to actually get married. Alls well that ends well sha!

I often say (in boxing), there are two ways to learn, the hard way and the painful way - take your pick. But getting this wrong can be hard and painful.


Likewise.


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Heheehe. All I had to do was reframe my persona and there was a corresponding adjustment on the other side. Have to say I was/am favoured to have the kinda wife I have. Which is why I don't hate the players or the game, I simply got with the program.

I'd rather the hard way to learning. Hehehehe

obowunmi:


Does research support this hypothesis?

Research, plain fact, natural conditions and human nature.

Sure a man with the means and charisma may be happily married to 2 or more wives.

But;

1. Would the women be as happy as if they had him all to themselves? Or put another way, would they prefer to share as opposed to choose too - if the circumstances were different? It denies women full agency

2. At a natural ratio of about 106 men to 100 women (to smooth the riskier lives and earlier deaths men tend to experience), it would cause an imbalance in wider society. Polygamy never prevails, even where it is permitted.

At best polygamy is an abberant form of marriage which may prove useful in times of real societal distress.


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carefreewannabe:


@bold

Feel honored.

@rest

So you agree a wife can be superior? Good. I will stop stalking you for now.

A wife can appear superior, it's not the natural way of things, though. Why would a wife appear superior? Better, yet, why would a man make his wife appear superior? Because he's a jonzing otondo.

TV01:

You can see it in lots of the posts here. Granted, there are things badly practiced and abuses, but the core models and morés are what works best - for most individuals and more pertinently for society as a whole.

I feel for them, but more for those who are in situations that don't afford them the same leeway but choose to tread the same path. I also had to seek answers. I hope they find them before it's too late. Hitting the wall or working with unrealistic expectations can be very painful.


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Nigeria then is an exception, isn't it?

Timbuktou:
A wife can appear superior, it's not the natural way of things, though. Why would a wife appear superior? Better, yet, why would a man make his wife appear superior? Because he's a jonzing otondo.

First of all, why appear?

You said a man who earns more, is better educated, has more developed leader qualities and charisma is superior.

If the wife has all these qualities, why isn't she superior but only appears to be superior?

The question is why would a man / husband want his wife to be inferior?

Timbuktou:
In countries, where the age of consent is 12 would it be wrong to sleep with a 13 year old?

The only country I know of where the age of consent is 12 is angola and for the fact that I am educated about the female body, it is wrong and irresponsible regardless of what the age of consent says. What then stops that 40year old sleeping with a 9 year old who looks like the 12 year old?
In your mind now, if you travel to angola you are ok to toast a 12/13 year old who probably hasn't started menstruating yet with one boob still yet to grow?
Anyhow, I am not surprised when in our part of the world, you can easily have sex with a 5 year old and nothing fit happen to you. But I can assure you no normal thinking educated father would want someone sleeping with his 12 year old regardless of what the age of consent is.

Timbuktou:
Heheehe. All I had to do was reframe my persona and there was a corresponding adjustment on the other side. Have to say I was/am favoured to have the kinda wife I have. Which is why I don't hate the players or the game, I simply got with the program.

I'd rather the hard way to learning. Hehehehe

Finding the right type of woman is key. And mature men know what that is - even if they haven't got their frame fully worked out.

I long for a time when men marry the right type of women for the right reasons. And all those women who think their looks, education, wealth, family pedigree, ability to catwalk, grasp of liberal ideology etc. means they can overthrow norms, simply get left on the shelf.

Open hypergamy is so bad in the West now that it's practiced openly and men are becoming socialised accordingly.

We'll see how it al lpans out. But women will bear the brunt - and may well reverse and demand the change.


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carefreewannabe:


First of all, why appear?

You said a man who earns more, is better educated, has more developed leader qualities and charisma is superior.

If the wife has all these qualities, why isn't she superior but only appears to be superior?

The question is why would a man / husband want his wife to be inferior?

Women have been known to wear the pants in the home.

And it's not a matter of wanting or not. It is nashure(nature) aka, the natural order aka, the way of mankind. You don't really have to want to go to the bathroom, you do because that's what you do. Carefree, I've spoon-fed you enough. Go to work, or I'll tell your boss you're flirting with strangers on company time.

carefreewannabe:


Nigeria then is an exception, isn't it?

No, you bolded the wrong part of my post

TV01:

You can see it in lots of the posts here. Granted, there are things badly practiced and abuses, but the core models and morés are what works best - for most individuals and more pertinently for society as a whole.
I feel for them, but more for those who are in situations that don't afford them the same leeway but choose to tread the same path. I also had to seek answers. I hope they find them before it's too late. Hitting the wall or working with unrealistic expectations can be very painful.

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TV01:

No, you bolded the wrong part of my post




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Not a wrong one but one that is inconvenient for you as it destroys one of your main arguments that marriages, in which women are inferior, help societies to flourish.