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Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 6:19am On Jan 29, 2015 |
tonychristopher: It is refreshing to hear from someone who has been there When I applied for the grant,do you know the man was slow to give me a letter of support,I had to chase him down and when he did it was just some generic letter that was so lightweight but my proposal was competitive and God was on my side I got the grant Till this day,the man never said a word on that even when the congratulatory mail was copied to him . Jealousy is a bad spirit |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by uboma(m): 6:19am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: Noted. |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 6:21am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi:Not dat i question ur elegant skills but dont be swayed by praises n awards,it could all be a smokes screen 2 create a pit platform 4 u...observe urself very well 2 eliminete any form of pride coz dat can go a long way in bruisin his ego more dan his ribs 1 Like |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by uboma(m): 6:25am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: Don't get me wrong. By all means, if you deserve a pay raise, seek for it. The issue here is that your immediate Boss feels threatened that you have easy access to his superiors.... |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 6:28am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Smartestelvis: By the nature of my job,the awards and recognitions are what gets you ahead not just showing up to work to do your assigned work It is a competitive environment and you need to distinguish yourself Everyone wants it and they don't come cheap Sorry if I sound arrogant,I say it with all humility ,just being blunt 2 Likes |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 6:31am On Jan 29, 2015 |
uboma: Is that not favor Imagine if his superior was acting same way,I would be screwed Btw this added money wasn't a raise per se It was ny negotiated contract at start of my employment ,I successfully negotiated a higher starting salary than what he offered me and I had to go above him to get it because he refused to listen Who goes to a new job to accept a lower salary? At least give me my last salary ,he wasn't willing to do that and someone else thought it was fair to do so 1 Like |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 6:38am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: Can someone give me suggestions or criticisms regarding the proposed opening line above I want this resolved amicably Does it sound good? Ok? Cocky? So,so? |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 6:40am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Pickabeau1 say sumtin nau |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by cococandy(f): 6:50am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: @bold, then you don't have anything to worry about. Best of luck |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by cococandy(f): 6:54am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Wow. No be small hatred o. Well since you have folks in there that can attest to the authenticity of your claims, rest assured. And always do your best not to be in the wrong at any time. Because one wrong you do can help him achieve his plans against you thoroughly. babyosisi: |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by tonychristopher: 6:57am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: From the analogy I deduced that the man is simply jealous and insecure and coming from a woman I have seen this before and if you work with people of different background and different l settings . It can be so annoying. This is not to bring in any sentiments here but the fact remains that he is petrified First law of nature is self preservation So I will advise you to keep shining and keep doing your work meticulously This is normal 4 Likes |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:01am On Jan 29, 2015 |
I shall gist y'all the outcome in 9 hours Cococandy ask Oga, I bet you he has experienced similar stuff When my hubby was doing a PHD He sat for an honors exam for a course The only honors candidate in that exam Result came out,he didn't get honors but a regular pass in that course then the shocker was that the honors went to a white girl who was not in the honors class Who is my little hubby to tackle a full professor in an Ivy League school He had to pick his battle and swallow that outright fraud so he can collect his PHD when due Another time his abstract was selected for presentation at a national conference out of all his colleagues,the lone black man there came time to go,all of a sudden,the department didn't have money to sponsor the trip The same trip people attended in previous years I can write a book on our experiences 3 Likes |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:05am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Babyosisi I think you should reread the interpretation I gave for that your dream and see if it bears with this your currect situation. Take care. 1 Like |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by dapsy4u2(m): 7:06am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi:. Best wishes 1 Like |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:07am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Martins301: OMG OMG OMG This could be related to that dream |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:08am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi:no u wern't soundin arrogant,i'm jst tryin 2 help coz i ve been down dat part where u are treated like an alien jst becoz one man is pullin his own strings n holdin a sissors 2 ur own..tribalism was my major challenge den n i hope its not urs.Not until a friend advised me 2 use blackmail,@ 1st i tot he was insane but 2 my suprise,it earned me way much respect n promotions dan i ever deserved..maybe dat mite be an option dont 4get dat empires aren't built on clever bookkeeping.... |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by 1miccza: 7:09am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: Things like this happen when there's a burst of success my guess is you might be working in Nigeria or an African country stuffs like this are common in such places,one more thing I forgot to add is before meeting him present your case to God first and ask God to take control of his mind and heart.. |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:13am On Jan 29, 2015 |
1miccza: I have prayer warriors on the case Our case will be handled in the spirit realm 1 Like |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:16am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Martins301: This was the dream for those interested
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Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:20am On Jan 29, 2015 |
And what martins said Martins301: I prayed about the dream earnestly with some friends and it is settled,every evil connotation has been cancelled by the blood of Jesus But it could actually be related to this event Wow 1 Like |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by pickabeau1: 7:25am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: Well....since you called me For me the fact that the meeting has gotten to a sort of mediation is bad and an indictment on your boss as this is bad for team morale However these are my ideas From my observations its strange for women to be persecuted work wise in the west as there is a bias in their favor so you must have really done something to tick this guy off It may be your excellence at work or your communication style which I believe may be perceived as agrresive rather than assertive. As for the meeting Your script is OK but don't be adversarial in your defense No need to dig up emails as this could escalate the situation and could lead to people not trusting you as you have am email arsenal Identify what you will not step down on but be ready to give concessions on other things. That's the principle of negotiation 7 Likes |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:27am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Babyosisi, I doubt prayer is the answer to this impasse. His problem with you might have been your skin or whatever but, you added everything else. While I commend you for bypassing him to get the raise, I'm stumped that you didn't expect him to take it personally. Some things I want you to consider: 1. If you both are still in that organisation, it would seem you're both considered valuable. Which is 2. The reason for this meeting to resolve whatever differences you guys might have. Top brass thinks you guys are channelling teamwork energy to negative office politics. 3. Wouldn't be surprised he has nothing cogent to say as to the cause of the bad blood. However, it is not your place to gloat or be smug. Your boss is still your boss, and his bosses will also study your body language. Be careful. 4. His team don't like you because their pillar is under attack, you're an unknown and you're there throwing weight around. Nobody likes an arrogant new-comer. Be careful. You can either try to win them over or have a high-paying job that drains you emotionally. 5. You can make him an enemy or you can make him a mentor and learn a few things from him, he is your boss, after all. Abeg manage this one, I dey comot. Good luck in ya resolution meeting. 3 Likes |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by tonychristopher: 7:34am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi:Nne Go in there do your thing and display your intelligence in a humble manner and pls and pls don't sound abusive to his person But this is a survival strategy and you have no option than survive This is imperative 1 Like |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by tonychristopher: 7:43am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: I am not Joeseph but I think that you have to be very careful here. You might lose something very important like job,friends ,spouse et al.. the key is ask lord to guide you Pray and in you are not humble try to be . If you have strained relationships with people physically there pls do make up with them In life I have come to see dreams as message that is been passed and when a woman dreams it is mostly factual Now if I may say this . You can meet the boss subtly and ask him where you went wrong before the meeting proper Its imperative but don't be cowed |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 7:57am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Babyosisi,goodluck. |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 9:01am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Sorry if I missed something in one of your posts and you may have addressed what I want to say, but if its so bad, why not just leave Surely this is not the best job out there NO!! it doesnt mean that you are running away, or q quitter but it means that you are preserving your mental state, which is more important than any job. Nothing you are going to say now will change his perception about you He is not going to wake up tomorrow just liking you He may be forced to be civil to you, and do things by the book, but deep down he will always be aiming for you and trying to trip you up You may have actually done or said something to kick all this off . . .you never know. My advise to you . . . .start looking for a new job. You say you are good at your job, so it shouldnt be too difficult to find another. Life is too short Learn the lesson on whatever you may have done to him that antagonised him/started the "fracas" and move on Spending 8 hours a day 5 days a week with this kind of environment, will eventually God forbid affect you healthwise. The "sickest" girl in my team is the one who doesnt get on with the manager. she is always down with one thing or the other. she is a totally different person from the person I knew some years ago. Happy at work also makes it easier to be to Happy at home. . . .. Her relationship is under great strain at home too. All the best in your meeting today. 3 Likes |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Connoisseur(m): 9:05am On Jan 29, 2015 |
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Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 9:21am On Jan 29, 2015 |
babyosisi: He might have tried and attempted several times to catch you on the wrong foot without success. I think he is very frustrated right now but he is going to FAIL. If I was in your position, I,ll continue to do my job diligently.you said that you are thorough in your job, that's a big plus otherwise you would have missed that 'cancer'..while he watches and spies on you to catch you off balance,something bigger than him with eyes wider than his is watching over you. Read your policies and procedures, patients care plans, make sure to always carry out your risk assessment before certain tasks. There must be colleagues at work you trust. Talk to people,let you friends be aware of the situation.make sure to do your paper works, have someone be your witness or countersign where necessary.. Be nice to colleagues at work. Make friends, have nice people around but mind what you say, your boss might have his ears all round you. Pray, dismiss any irrational fears. You will be fine. |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 9:29am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Don't listen to any advice about resigning or leaving your job. You are not working for him,you are working with him. Simply,do your job and stop worrying. You have done nothing wrong to him. If he tries to bully, your colleagues would be there to support you and I'm sure there ways in which you can report that. You had very good working relationship with your former boss,there will be people to vouch for you. 1 Like |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by Nobody: 9:30am On Jan 29, 2015 |
IMO, if you intend to have a long-term future at your place of work, you'll need to 'befriend' the powers that be. Granted, this is coming from someone who avoids one of her bosses - and the direct coordinator of her dept - like some abominable mixture of bubonic plague & SARS. But, this only works for me because: 1) The positive formal/informal friendships and working relationships I've developed with his equals, and superiors. Exceptional work. 2) Working a schedule that all but excuses me from having to engage him. Generally. 3) I'm not staking my future there. I don't intend to stay within his dept. indefinitely. this boss and those supporting him are using subtle ways to express their wrath towards me and so far I have maintained my cool First, I commend you for keeping your cool. If it were me, I would re-direct most of my focus towards changing the red, and maintaining excellent performance. Let us know how it goes. All the best! |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by crackhaus: 9:35am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Apart from the issue of requesting a salary increase over the phone (which I'm not sure how you may have sounded to him), and the rumour about you recommending another man for his job - please tell us what else you may have done or said at one time or the other to make him dislike you this much...thanks! I also saw this bit in your OP: My impression is that he is not comfortable having a black woman and an intelligent one as a colleague I'm sorry to say, but if you're going around with this mentality under the impression that you're displaying confidence, then it's no surprise he may be put off by you. You are not the only black woman who is intelligent he may have had to work with and I doubt he goes through life having issues with every single one of them - but if you're going over his head and attempting to prove having influence over his judgement, then that may just come off as being obnoxious. Remember you also requested for a salary increase from him on a new job over the phone, had you even met face to face with him before doing this? I'm asking because I'm just wondering why you imagined he would jump on your request without first having a first-hand meet with you. 3 Likes |
Re: I Need Words Of Wisdom From Mature Nairalanders by crackhaus: 9:53am On Jan 29, 2015 |
this boss and those supporting him are using subtle ways to express their wrath towards me and so far I have maintained my coolNoticed this bit from E-soul's post above. Babyosisi, what is your honest opinion on the reason for that? Do they support him because they are also not comfortable having a black intelligent woman as a colleague, or is it something else? |
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