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Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 8:22pm On Feb 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212: I did take the time to read it, thank you. I have a feeling you didn't though Seriously, we have a problem here if you don't know the difference between atheism and eugenics, and then come around with a text from a conspiracy theory website to make a point that remains mysterious to me. Try again. 2 Likes |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by malvisguy212: 11:05pm On Feb 18, 2015 |
Liekiller:the very thing you accused christians of that's what you just did,go and read it and see for your self . Darwin was a respected man in atheism,right? Let me past some interesting passages; In Darwin’s time there was an idea among the nobility that their genetics were superior to those of the rest of society. Many families including Darwin’s took this belief to extreme levels by practicing incest as a tradition. They thought that if adolescents were to marry within their own family then not only would all the wealth stay in the family, but the “good” genes would also. This also ensured that the family fortunes would be retained for many future generations. This practice is very common in aristocratic families, which explains why they are all extremely mentally unstable. Darwin came from a very classist and racist elite level of society and that is reflected in his work, especially “The Descent of Man”. One of the most famous cases of royal incest is found in the Hapsburg dynasty that produced rulers in Spain, Austria, Hungary, Belgium, the Netherlands and the German empire. Around 1700 the Spanish branch of this empire fell apart suddenly and died off. The ruling class of every nation is obsessed with breeding and is using the best of our advanced technology and medical science to guarantee that their heirs will be somehow thoroughbred. Since the aristocracy has been practicing selective breeding for centuries they are under the impression that they are already of a superior stock to the rest of humanity, thanks to the “care” that their ancestors took in breeding. This is of course just an egotistical delusion that justifies their exploitative treatment towards the rest of humanity. Darwin’s other dehumanizing ideology is his “survival of the fittest” mantra. Darwin didn’t just come up with this philosophy out of thin air, this was actually an idea that has been traditionally held by families of nobility since before the Middle Ages. It was this philosophy that the aristocracy used to justify their inhumane treatment of the serfs and peons that built their empires and tended to their fields. |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by malvisguy212: 11:24pm On Feb 18, 2015 |
Liekiller visit the link for more In a 1798 publication called “An Essay on the Principle of Population” Malthus suggested that planned food shortages could be used to decrease the population of the poor through starvation. This was the root for the idea of “population control”, because a large population is very difficult for the elite to manage while retaining their own wealth and power. Malthus suggested that the streets should be made narrower and more people should be crowded into living quarters to encourage conditions that would bring back the plague. In that same essay he said that villages should be built next to stagnant pools where germs could fester and all remedies and cures would only be available to those who could afford it. In his own words “we are bound in justice and honor formally to disclaim the right of the poor to support. To this end, I should propose a regulation be made declaring that no child born should ever be entitled to parish assistance. This infant is comparatively speaking, of little value to society , as others will immediately supply its place…All children beyond what would be required to keep up the population to this level must perish, unless room be made for them by the deaths of grown persons.” [1] In so many words what he was suggesting was establishing a national limit on child births, and executing any child that was born past that limit. In the times of Malthus many elite circles were publicly speculating that if the world’s population were to exceed 3 billion people there would be mass famine and destruction of all the resources on earth. Obviously, they were all very wrong. |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Thugnificent(m): 11:37pm On Feb 18, 2015 |
Liekiller:Wow! fantastic logic! because the "entire" scientific community agrees on evolution proves it's correct right? |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 12:29am On Feb 19, 2015 |
Thugnificent: They agree on it because of the massive, overwhelming amount of EVIDENCE various fields of science have accumulated over the past 150 years. So, what I was saying is: if you want to "disprove" it, then you ought to deal with that evidence. It's not about making this claim or that claim based on personal preferences or beliefs. 1 Like |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Nobody: 1:50am On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller: that makes zero sense... the burden of proof is on the believer to prove creationism and also prove the science that the atheist uses as a peg? What burden of proof does the atheist bear? Just showing up to be a vacuous nuisance? Your last statement is typical of most of you... you waffle on about "science" yet when asked to state what exactly it is you mean you weasel away by using the fallacy of appealing to authority. The "entire" science community does not agree with evolution. I am part of that community and there are thousands more who do not believe the theory with good reason. its ok to say you dont know... 1 Like |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Nobody: 1:51am On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller: that is actually false. If you spent time here you would have seen threads robustly debating the so-called "evidence", much of which you clearly do not know anything about. All you have to offer is empty platitudes... if we asked you to come here and debate just one of such "evidence" you say exists, you couldnt. |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Nobody: 1:53am On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller: and i suppose you believe that evilbible.com is a credible website? What a joke. 2 Likes |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Joshthefirst(m): 6:10am On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller:There you go again spitting dogma. I challenge you to bring up one tiny scrap of evidence that shows that all living organisms evolved from a common ancestor. |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 8:22am On Feb 19, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: LOL it's all out there for everybody to evaluate. You can "challenge" me as much as you want - It's not my job to teach you biology. So why don't you provide a tiny scrap of evidence for your version of the story? Or is no evidence needed for that? 2 Likes |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 8:30am On Feb 19, 2015 |
davidylan: of course I could. I'm actually a biologist. But I won't. It's not my job to teach you biology. I would go through the effort if it weren't such a waste of time. But you are not willing to look at and understand the evidence because your mind is made up that it can't be true because it contradicts your belief. You are free to believe whatever you wish of course. It's just funny that you keep asking for evidence (even though it's all published and there for everybody to see) but don't need any evidence to support your own belief. 4 Likes |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 8:39am On Feb 19, 2015 |
davidylan: Firstly, I never claimed that it is a "credible" website, and I didn't use it as "evidence" for anything. I merely put a small part from it (that can be considered a point of view) on here for discussion. The website actually just lists reasons why the person who made the site considers the bible to be evil and doesn't believe in it. While I agree with the general conclusions drawn by this person, this is not "evidence" for or against anything. It simply describes alternative conclusions one can come to when reading the bible critically. Secondly, you are free to go to the website and check whether or not it quotes the bible wrongly. 2 Likes |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by davien(m): 8:55am On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller:Liekiller wonderful rebuttals,nice thread....you should also look into the foundational falshoods of creationism if you can... |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Nobody: 9:04am On Feb 19, 2015 |
davidylan: Gbam! Some of them think atheism is Science Smh! |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 9:08am On Feb 19, 2015 |
davien: Thanks Davien, good to have you on the thread I've been following you exposing the crooks (America's worst exports ever) if that's what you mean? 1 Like |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Nobody: 9:12am On Feb 19, 2015 |
@ OP, go get ya life fixed! |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Joshthefirst(m): 12:15pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller:Sounds like dishonesty to me. If there's an overwhelming amount of evidence surely you should be able to put just a tiny one here and shame me forever. 2 Likes |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Thugnificent(m): 12:42pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller:Massive, overwhelming amount of evidence like? |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 12:48pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Joshthefirst: It doesn't matter what it sounds like to you. If you don't know where to find scientific papers then you are obviously not the scientist you claim to be. Instead of me listing a million peer-reviewed original research articles that confirm evolution why don't you post just ONE peer-reviewed article in a reputable biology journal that disproves it. Just ONE is needed to make the whole thing collapse. 2 Likes |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 12:50pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Thugnificent: Learn biology. 3 Likes |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Thugnificent(m): 3:49pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller:Your ignorance is nauseating. 1 Like |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Ifeann(f): 4:22pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Empiree: Chiedu7 u are right. . Mohammed thought the earth was flat. .u can Google for the hadiths that show this error in thinking by the prophet. .this is why Muslims are commanded to face the kabba in mecca during prayer so as not to point their butt.s to it. . However the joke is on Muslims because the earth is spherical hence their butt.s are pointed to it regardless.. |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Ifeann(f): 4:28pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller: I hope u know the theory of evolution is just a theory and not fact or law... U seem to be convinced it's proven... |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Ifeann(f): 4:36pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
chiedu7: Very nice reply... As an agnostic liekiller will continue to doubt and attack christainity... In Islam agnostics and atheists are beheaded. . |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Nobody: 6:04pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller: What do you know about Biology? Smh! |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 6:11pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
doubleDx: I happen to have a PhD in it. And what's your qualification in the field? 1 Like |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 6:30pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Ifeann: I hope you know what the meaning of the word "theory" in science is? |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Ifeann(f): 6:33pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller: Yes i have written research papers and have 2 degrees. U are quite an unintelligent skeptic. .. Have you heard of the theory of gravity. ....nah u haven't ... it's the law of gravity.... there is no law of evolution. .. |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 6:39pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Thugnificent: My ignorance in what please? If you consider a PhD in biology nauseating ignorance then I guess that's your problem, not mine. See how you start foaming from your mouth and showering hatred on me because I don't give in to your attempts to waste my time posting stuff that is published and accessible to whoever wants to learn about it. As I have said before: if you argue against evolution (which happens to be pure biology), then the burden of proof is on YOU to provide hard BIOLOGICAL evidence in support of your point. Hating me doesn't disprove evolution, sorry. 1 Like |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 6:41pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Ifeann: degrees in what? apparently not biology. Funny how you just assume that I haven't heard about this or that.
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Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Ifeann(f): 6:46pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Liekiller: No my friend not in biology but u know what the general scientific community say about theses things! |
Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Fundamentalist Christian by Liekiller(f): 6:49pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Ifeann: Oh yes, I actually do know what the general scientific global community says about these things. I happen to be a member of it (in biology). |
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