Papist:

Hint: dont get emotional. I know you have been taught all these things you believe...that seeking the prayers of the Saints is sinful. Thats why the verse I just gave you is disturbing you. Now can you prove to me that the verse doesnt refer to the Saints in heaven?

... Itx so obvious from that verse that those Saints are the ones on earth...my brother stop the argument n let's follow the JESUS model... Good to have u here.. Well done

Quote> Honestly we should allow some issues to rest, What issues?

Actually I don't agree-we all learn from our different views, by having these tiny debates on these small issues, teaches us about truth.

Any born a gain believer, knows the word of God, and everybody who try's to penetrate against the word of God, will surely be cut in two by the sword of the Spirit.

It's all over you tube the Catholic Church worship Lucifer, The Pope deny's Christianity, the lord is revealing these false prophets, slowly but surely.
Matthew 24:24 For false prophets and false Messiahs will perform great signs and wonders to deceived even the elect.
Wolves in sheep clothing will deceive many.

God is telling us to Judge for ourselves.
Matthew 7:16 By their fruits you will recognise them.

So don't become all religious on us, because we are all in the body of Christ and we need everybody, to help and support.

Amen.

Etfash:
Honestly, we should allow some issues to rest. If everything would be put under the microscope of God's word, one will find 'errors' in Pentecostal as well as Protestants and orthodox doctrines.

Now, you are examining a portion of the catholic doctrine. What about the protestants attitude to tithing... They have declared it still valid not considering the history and yet vindicating people who wear trousers on the ground of history.

Conclusion: God is bigger than religion and our minds, let's live judgment to Him. To the best of our knowledge and understanding of the scriptures, we should obey God and serve him through His Christ... When you see 'limitations' in anyone or group, pray for them.

Christ' love to all who believe in His death, resurrection, ascension and imminent return.

jnrbayano:


Jesus said in John 11:26;

"And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?"

Mary and the saints are not dead. In fact, they are more alive than you.

Yea they are alive,but can they pray

I believe evey one that calls Jesus lord in the spirit is a christian

We will keep on arguing here if we cant solve or come to realization of the main thing

The real thing in life is
Why did God create man
What was on his mind for creating man

What purpose where u created to fulfil in the society

Why do we even have to pray since God is sovriegn
As the creator ,why does He need our prayers since he can do whatever he
Wishes to do
Are we trying to bribe God with our prayer

Is prayer mearnt to gratify our earthly desire from the creator who does not
Send......earthly things


Guys this is the main problem of every religion named on earth
thank God
You can find your aswers from gen 1-3.1

pneumaticos:


Yea they are alive,but can they pray

Can you pray?

jnrbayano:

Quo
Can you pray?

Am making you see seprnse here,hope an not in argument with am under 20
Whays prayer meNt for in the first place

pneumaticos:


Am making you see seprnse here,hope an not in argument with am under 20
Whays prayer meNt for in the first place

Write well so that I can understand