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Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by obiZEAL(m): 1:14pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
I work in a medical Laboratory under an extremist Christian boss, our morning devotion could be mistaken for a crusade with 7 people ( the speaking in tongues no be here). This morning a frail looking old muslim man came to run a widal test, after the man left, he said 'look at him, if he gets well now he will go and start killing christians as their koran has commanded them' I wanted to tell him that his bible has commanded christians to kill more than the koran or any other book has commanded its loyals, but then, I value my job. So please if you know my boss or anybody like my boss, show them this thread. NB: The bible is the bible you don't choose what to believe and what not to believe...weather its old or new testament. 1.Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests. Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT) 1.Kill Witches. You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB) 3.Kill Homosexuals. "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB) 4.Kill Fortunetellers A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB) 5.Death for Hitting Dad. Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB) 5.Death for Cursing Parents A) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB) B) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT) 6.Death for Adultery If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT) 7.Death for Fornication A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB) 8.Death to Followers of Other Religions. Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB) 9.Kill Nonbelievers They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB) 9.Kill False Prophets. If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB) 10.Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God. Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT) 11.Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night) , and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB) 12.Kill Followers of Other Religions. A) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB) B) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT) 13.Death for Blasphemy One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT). 14Kill False Prophets A) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT) B) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT) 15.Infidels and Gays Should Die So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT). 16.Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT). 17.Kill People for Working on the Sabbath. The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by delishpot: 1:17pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
OP, this is not what christ stood for. Go back and re read ya bible. If you do, you will see where christ spoke about all that. He said a lot of it is written and tgen he gave new translations to most of them. He said it is written an eye for an eye but I tell you if someone slaps you on the right cheek turn tge left to him too. He said pray for your enemies and wish good to those that curse you. He said forgive 70x70 times He said a lot of things that if you were not so stuck on proving christianity as a devilish and blood thirsty religion, you would have noticed and understood. Granted your oga was overdoing it. But he said what he said out of anger at what extreemist moslems are doing. Have you been oportune to see what those ISIL are doing to people? Go and look for those videos and come back and tell me you dont understand where your boss is comming from. Anyhoe, as long as he did not butcher the man or insult him to his face and the man did not feel threatened, na ya oga sabi, 2 Likes |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by obiZEAL(m): 1:33pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
delishpot:I get u point... But again if Christ has abolished all these acts then what are they still doing in the pages of the bible? And again when people like my boss accuse Islam of being a religion of war, they backup their claims with one statement from the koran...how can one statement from the koran represent what a religion stands for? 2 Likes |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by Horus(m): 1:39pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
Anyone familiar with the scriptures will note that Yahweh has no reservations about ordering the deaths of heathens. In the Old Testament he is not a God of Peace. Even the Laws of Moses, given to ensure man lives in harmony, includes death sentences for certain violations. The Flood is the most obtrusive example of his mass annihilation tactics for those who have strayed from his direction. The destruction of the cities of the plain is another. Yahweh's own actions are far from exemplary, he approves of Noah's animal sacrifice after the flood because the burning flesh has a pleasing smell. He orders Abraham to sacrifice his son on an altar as a test of loyalty. This is hardly admirable conduct from a divine being. 1 Like |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by delishpot: 1:50pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
obiZEAL: Well, I believe its because moslems have not had any imam contradict what the quran said. As Jesus came and gave some what revised new laws, so christians are not bound by most of the old laws . On the other hand, no imam has come forward to sa Mohamed s laws can be done away with and tge new law should be so, so so. Love all, no jihad, no killing of infidels, no taxing them etc. Till then, the quran still stands as it is. To many chrisrians, the Old testament is a book that peers into the history of the begining of the christian religion. The new testament is the new law which comprises of the laws from the OT that still holds and the law that christ added to it. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by johnydon22(m): 2:23pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
Oh yes the bible commanded such violence and deaths and horrible evil actions but christians now dont let it influence their actions because human morality surpasses that of any God(s) or anything written in the pages of a book. But looking at the actions of most muslims in the world are best described as brainless folks with a book and gun.. Tho those two books bible and koran are real shiiiits and are not supposed to influence any man's thinking and actions.. 2 Likes |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 8:51pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
obiZEAL:When you live by the divine law of God, and you break it, God will not ignored it,those verses you quoted that God killed,who are the people God killed? Are they innocent? You claimed to be a christian and wanted to know the truth,instead of you to search the scripture,you went and search the internet. All the verses you quoted up there are the verse God pronounced judgement on the sinner, you even went all the way and make a case for witches and wizard including evil men, seriously? You quote a verse questioning God why he will destroyed the idols worshipper,my good friend. You are not a christian. here what God said to the isrealite; "It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the WICKEDNESS OF THESE NATION that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. ( Deuteronomy 9:5) Okay, how "wicked" could those people have been? let find out; "You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even BURNS THEIRS SONS AND DAUGHTER IN THE FIRE TO THEIR gods ( Deuteronomy 12:31) The wickedness of these people is confirmed in other verses of the Bible.3 So we see that these people are not quite as innocent as the Muslims would like you to believe. The fact that these people practiced child sacrifice is also confirmed in the secular writings of the Greeks. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 8:56pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
obiZEAL. There are many verses in the quran that encourage muslim to wage war on people who don't believe in Allah check this thread. https://www.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 9:01pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by ERCROSS(m): 9:08pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
Obizeal... Thanks for this eye opener... I neva want to believe the prophet Mohammed / his scholars copied texts from the bible, until I saw this. Now I gerrit, this is where he gets his misconceptions from.. Well cha, not his fault.. Only those of the spirit shall understand things of the spirit... 1 Like |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 9:20pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
johnydon22:as an atheists,who is your role model? Christopher hitchen when ask to condemned beastility he refused. "Bestiality is the act of engaging in sexual relations with an animal." |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by johnydon22(m): 9:30pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
malvisguy212: You wanna know my role model? [size=20] Me [/size] so? |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 9:40pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
johnydon22:but you proved your points Base on there logic and theories. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by johnydon22(m): 9:44pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
malvisguy212: No i prove my points based on my own logic and reasoning not anybody's... It may sound similar to you because we dont believe in any deity or superstitious mumbo jumbo... My reasoning have nothing to do with anybody.. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 9:59pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
johnydon22:I don't want to stress my self in searching for your post that say otherwise because this is a lie everybody knows. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by johnydon22(m): 10:14pm On Feb 26, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Is anything wrong with this guy Seriously you sound daft...(not intended as an insult) let me quote myself for you again [size=20] It may sound similar to you because we dont believe in any deity or superstitious mumbo jumbo...[/size] I dont even know why you choose to derail this thread and make a fo.ol of yourself here.. I wont reply your quote on this again... stick to the thread.. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by udatso: 7:32am On Feb 27, 2015 |
The violence you speak of with regards to the quran have been well explained inwww.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism ending of page 0 as well as 1 and 2. The things most Christians are guilty of is that when Muslims point at the violence verses in the Bible, they give excuses why it's not actually a teaching, but when Muslims give them their own reason why such Quranic Verses have a context and explanation, they accuse us of lying. So as long as you continue to portray Islam as a religion that preaches violence relying on these verses regardless of the explanations so shall we continue to do same to you until you accept the truth and stop been hypocrites 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by Empiree: 3:56pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
delishpot:Everything you said up there is false and unreal. How many christians ready to turn other cheek if slapped?. How many of you forgive 70x? You are not being real. Those nonsense were Paul's teachings. Jesus did not abolish the Law. The Laws Stand. If you dont agree, it means you contradict our own Book and your Book also contradicts itself. Here is what Jesus said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.Matthew 5:17 “It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17) [size=15pt]“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)[/size] |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by michaelwestern(m): 6:04pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
OP you are confusing judaism with christianity. God never commanded any christian to kill anybody. There was nothing like christianity before Jesus Christ. Christianity is built on Jesus Christ and Jesus never asked christians to kill anybody. The old testament is in the bible so that we can learn about how God related with the jews not to obey their commandments. If you read the old testaments very well you will realize that the commandments were given specifically to only the isrealites. Every other nation then were gentiles and they had no obligations to obey the commandments. When.Jesus came, he connected the gentiles to God not through the isrealite's laws but through his blood. And he gave the christians only two commandments which is Love the Lord your God and love your neighbour as yourself. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by johnydon22(m): 6:47pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
michaelwestern: He never commanded the christians but he commanded jews right.. Is it not the same yahweh? Is the christian concept of yahweh diferent from the judaic concept (original concept tho) Why is the jewish commandments in d christian scriptures. Why say the old testament laws applies to christians but yet when faced with passages as this you remember its in the old testament... Why not say the whole old testament is invalid or is it that you just cherrypick the ones that appeals to your morals but others that dont, you just say its in the old testament forgetting your ten commandments and other laws are also from the old testament... 1 Like |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 6:50pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
Empiree:how did Jesus fullfiled the law? ? No prophets say the word " I come to fullfiled the law" only Jesus ,why? When the law was introduced, it was never intended to be the instrument by which man would save himself, but it was the instrument through which man was to be saved. In a very real sense, man is saved through the fulfilment (keeping) of the law. When Christ fulfilled the law, he earned the privilege of life. Those who are in Christ, likewise, share in his righteousness and are delcared righteous right along side him. In that sense, the law has always stood and will continue to stand. Romans 7:7What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." 8But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. 9I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died. 10THE VERY COMMANDMENT THAT PROMISED LIFE proved to be death to me. 11For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. 12So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. This is the point Jesus was making>>>> The law offered life through its fulfilment and death through its violation. Jesus was saying"I NEVER SIN AND I AM THE PERFECT EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW. How do you fullfiled the law?is it not by keeping the commandment? I know you will not understands it. Because your heart is sealed. That being said, there's still hope for us wretched sinners: Romans 7:4Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. And verse 6 say>>>>> 6But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the NEW WAY OF THE SPIRIT and not in the OLD WAY of the written code. Looking at the block starting with v.7 we see that the law is not bad (in fact it's good) just because we use it as a springboard for badness. The law is good, and it's been fulfilled by Christ. He was the one who fulfilled it; not us. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by obiZEAL(m): 7:48pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:Am Sure you must have understood that the bible is a one sided story book...God played the jury and the judge and he never gave room for free will, the pages of the bible suggests that God kill people at will...and it don't go down well with me when SOME christians tag Islam a violent religion just because of a hand full of deviant muslims. That where I have a problem. 1 Like |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by obiZEAL(m): 7:52pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:Just as there are sooo much more verses in the bible like the ones up there that other christians to kill and destroy. 1 Like |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by obiZEAL(m): 8:09pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
michaelwestern:So what do we do with the ten commandments? What do we do with story of creation? These are the basis of the christian belief and they are found in the old testament 1 Like |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 8:14pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
obiZEAL:I will seth a challenge for you, produce a verses in the bible were God killed innocent people, and when you do that, give the whole story so that the viewers will understand.we all know the killing start during the FLOOD and later soddom and gomorah,these people sacrifice there sons and daughter for their gods and practice homosexual,infacte they even attempt to sleep with the angels God sent to warn them, hence their punishment/judgment.everything about killing continue during the exedus era,read below; The Amalekites attacked the Israelites without apparent provocation as they were traveling during the Exodus ( Ex 17:. "When you were weary and worn out, they met you on your journey and cut off all who were lagging behind" ( Dt 25:17-18). They later attacked Israel during the time of the Judges (Jdg 3:13) and often raided the Israelites' land after they had planted crops, leaving them with nothing ( Jdg 6:2-5). God punished the Amalekites by ordering Saul to destroy them ( 1 Sam 15:2-3) - over 300 years after they had first attacked Israel. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 8:15pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
obiZEAL:there is no verse in the bible God command us to kill, if there is provide it. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by michaelwestern(m): 8:20pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
johnydon22: Did you even read my post before quoting me? I stated it clearly that the old testament laws are not for christians. God gave the commandments to isrealites only there was nothing like christianity then. It's the same God but different dispensation and to the best of my knowledge the OP was referring to christians not isrealites who were given the commandments. Let me state it clearly again, christians dont follow the old testament commandments, we only read the old testament to learn about how God related to the isrealites before christianity. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 8:22pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
obiZEAL:Jesus summoned it with ONE word, "LOVE" all the killing the op quoted are for thoes who don't believe in the grace Jesus gives us, they are for does who followed the law and deny the grace of God in christ Jesus. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by malvisguy212: 8:25pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
michaelwestern:hey bro, good to know you are alright, I am very happy to see you, God bless you my friend. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by johnydon22(m): 8:27pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
michaelwestern: Hhmmm i still see you christians referencing the 10commandments, even tithes.. lolzz isrealites indeed.. |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by obiZEAL(m): 8:33pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:Gives rise to another question; Why did my catechism teacher make me cram the ten commandment? And u'v not told me what to do with the story of creation, or do we just stay with the evolution theory? |
Re: Licence To Kill From The Holy Bible. by obiZEAL(m): 8:41pm On Feb 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:Deuteronomy 13 v 7 |
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