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Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 7:58pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:all tings cool mi breda. trust all is nice and coo and evertin lovely. |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:01pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
ttmacoy:if you are looking for peace of mind, the western world is not the place to get peace of mind. trust me. unless of course you are jonathan goodluck and you have a house in golders green or hampstead all paid for, no mortgage and the council tax paid for one year in advance 2 Likes |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Nobody: 8:02pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
We found ourselves in this horrible way of life because we dnt kill the corrupt people,the Quran says so, i dnt know if the bible says,if they have been killing them without favouritism,Naija would have been long a very lovely place on planetearth,imagine how richly blessed it is. Demainman1: |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:03pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
solomonwis:no condemnation bros. it just does not make sense for a man and his kids to sell and trade security for insecurity. thats a juvenile move |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Nobody: 8:04pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
Abio,even with that its a furtrated system and sick. sukkot: 1 Like |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:06pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
EMEzzy:yeah i repped toronto raptors back in that time no more. and ermmm the lakers have being crap for a while now and kobe needs to retire. his time is past. |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Nobody: 8:09pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
Insha Allah i will return and won't regret leaving a devil planned economy. sukkot: |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:10pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
uplawal:lmao exactly right ? its quite depressing really if you think about it deeply. in nigeria i seem to remember when someone has a party in your family, your parents will tell you to take food to all the neighbors and everyone on your street. community based. black people are not created for western living. we have melanin which is soul. we are soulful people. we are not robotic like the white man 6 Likes |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Demainman1: 8:12pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
uplawal: The thing is that the corrupt people run things and are in charge and the merciful God is just watching them run the rest of us, his children into the ground. We have been praying since time immemorial yet the situation remains the same. Why is it that only the politicians (and who know dem) are living large at the expense of all. I know that with constant electricity Nigerians will not even care who rules them and how much they steal yet they refuse to provide light. !!! I have a simple theory for why electricity can never be provided in that country no matter what. it is simply a case of light and darkness can never meet and since our leaders have agreed with evil forces, they have been warned never to give light since they are of the dark. I hope my english make sense before someone go come give out to me 2 Likes |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:14pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
uplawal:very perfectly said from an experienced londoner 2 Likes |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by solomonwis(m): 8:15pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
sukkot: Where is the "security"? |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:20pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
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Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by gentleiphy: 8:22pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
irridemi: Irridemi....my sister i called you my sister because you took the courage to do what we know most Nigerian women to be ..very industrious and so much attached to the welfare of their husbands and family. Weldone! You have asked a very good question,and i have read and followed all the response giving by good people here...though some sound bitter,some funny,some positive and some discouraging..they all have done well and so appreciate each and everyone's input as i believe they all have your interest at heart. i observed two sets of people here....the "Experienced ones" and the"i heard it so ones"....in the"Experienced ones" that is where your answer lies because they comprise of the optimists and the pessimists...listen to both of them because both have spoken the truth.For the"I heard it so ones"...they have never been in the situation you find yourself now and therefore are learning from the responses of the"Experienced Ones"like you. Your Case:Relocating to Canada on student ground.. Option1:Your husband studies while you work albeit with Pregnancy Option2:You Study while husband works to support you while you grapple with stress of baby on the way. Canada no doubt is a beautiful land filled with unending opportunities when you have the right legal status to reside and work.It used to be easier coming in as an international student,get work permit,graduate work for 2 years and get your PR..sadly the law has changed of recent...meaning if both of you make that move via the international student route....staying back in Nigeria sounds progressive more than being in Canada because when both of you come in and face reality on ground,you will panic,depression will set in,hopelessness will evolve,cracks will begin to appear in your marital relationship and the baby?confusion will be the result.Again if your husband chose to come alone to study while you stay back home to support him..it will take some good 4yrs for him to able to navigate his way around the immigration laws to get his PR and file for you then you are looking at 5yrs of him being in Canada without you.The more you look at the cons..the more you realise it may not worth it to sell off your property and quit your job to go into this "legend of the Seeker" adventure. Best route to you my sister is to gather your document and start application for the permanent residence via the Express Entry...patiently work on achieving it and when you get it...i bet you the sky wont be your limit in the foreign land.No country in this world is easy to settle down fast even leaving your village to relocate to Lagos was never easy at the start.Believe me if you succeed with your PR,Canada has lots to offer you...hard work and determination is the answer.it is true that when you come your education and work experience from Nigeria doesn't count..very very true but as a PR..you will benefit immensely in a lot programs that will help integrate your easily into the system...there a lot of certification courses in your field that you can easily do within some months of arrival to get some job which comes with the coveted Canadian work experience preparing you to make that great move into you major job you so desired.For example,as an Auditor which of course is regulated and which may take some years for you to get licensed or qualify in their certification...you can certify in CAPA or CAPP..certified Accounts payable Associate or Professional which enables you to get a job as easy as ABC though lower in what you do in Nigeria but at least starts you off on the climb to your Canadian work experience.So many of such certifications exist to help you out in your settling down that is if you came in with your PR... like others advised...money melts down so fast in Canada...your entire savings can disappear in just a while without any other source of income therefore supporting yourself to study with the money you came with for a family of 2(3 to be) without the PR status will be a tall order.You will survive in Canada if you arrive with your PR and you have your uncle to shelter you for a couple of months guiding you to settle down easily.For every newcomer in any Country it is not always easy and fast to settle..you must thread the muddy waters and the thorny valleys but after rain comes sunshine.but one thing i have to leave you with is this... In Canada...they live life In Nigeria....they exist People make choice of either to live life or to merely exist in life. My advise:Make the move to Canada via PR and you wont regret it. God bless your decision. [b][/b] 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Nobody: 8:23pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
sukkot:please let's not engage in e-quarrel pls for the sake of people learning from the thread. Please please thanks and God bless u . |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:29pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
uplawal:lol it all comes down to we are melanated people with soul and a different spirit from the white man and seeing as you are a minority in his society you have to kill your own spirit to adapt to his ways. you cant even wear outfits that are too colorful or people will think you are crazy. you have to wear black or grey lmao 2 Likes |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:31pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
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Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by ttmacoy: 8:31pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
Well I guess your definition of peace of mind relates to money.... to me it doesn't necessarily. I see people are always talking about bills in the western world like everything is free in Nigeria. Nigeria is expensive and very hard to budget because of so many unexpected expenses that come up daily so I don't really get this bills complaint. I notice people tend to make this comparisons from e.g. a banker in Nigeria to maybe someone doing odd jobs abroad, but for a working professional perspective you can live a very good life. if you compare bankers with same number of working experience in the UK or US to Nigeria are you telling me the nigerian lives a better life or earns more? Compare doctors to doctors or engineer to engineers? What i like about the UK or US is I can budget properly and live within my budget. You say mortgages like it a bad thing. A mortgage is what will allow a 22-25 year old buy a place here and his monthly mortgage payments will be less than the equivalent rent if he was renting same place. This means over the life of the mortgage not only is he paying less than the rent he would have paid if he was waiting to buy the house outright, but he also benefits from price increase from the start. This mortgage is what will allow same type of person buy houses to rent out without putting down the whole amount of the house which means he earns the difference between the rent charged and the mortgage payment and benefits from price increase. I have friends who work on the island and live in Ajah, earn good money and send hours in traffic everyday. Get home have to put on generator etc, that is a stressful life and yet no vacation to enjoy and destress. And no travelling to London to stay with uncle or aunty and shop all around peckham and brixton is not vacation. This tax you complain about is what pays for free medical, free education etc . sukkot: 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:32pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
solomonwis:brother, forget what any human being tells you in this world. if you have your own house paid for cash, and its yours forever ? thats the only security you need in life. everything else is secondary 1 Like |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by ccaramel(f): 8:33pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
sukkot:Sukkot it's not that at all. Actually I earn more money from my businesses in Nigeria than my job in Canada, I have a bigger house, car in Nigeria and my family is ok. Mind you I was an international student for my undergrad and masters in Canada. Not cheap. It's not about money to me. But its about a sane and safe environment where the mind can develop. I just returned from a 4 month trip to nigeria and I couldn't wait to get back even with the sub zero temperature. The traffic, NEPA, gridlock, horrible drivers in Lagos is just not for me. Sure there's money but that's not me. Why do the majority of the kids of the rich stay and school abroad? Plain and simple. It's a saner environment. Things work better, govt is doing their job, police are doing their job, hardly traffic, safer environment generally. If you are ok with Nigeria if you have the opportunity to be in a developed country like Canada. It's ok. We all have different personalities and way of life. Nigeria will always be home. But I love Canada. If NIgeria can become a better country and govt decides to start working. I will be the first one to pack my bags and return home. For now. I am home. Home is where the heart is. I am happy here. Money is nothing. 6 Likes |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:36pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
irridemi:i am not quarreling with anyone. i am smashing down on someone who was disrespecting someone who was having a conversation with me. i am entitled to do that. rude people need to be curtailed. it is what it is. |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Nobody: 8:38pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
sukkot:. The prophet has spoken..... 1 Like |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:40pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
ttmacoy:this is greater than money. there is no peace of mind for a black man in the west. unless you are just a subservient slave minded negro. all over america the police is gunning down young black men. same all over the world. black man was prevented from entering a train by racist white people etc etc etc. there is no peace of mind for a black man in a white mans world PERIOD. i was in total oblivion but now i can see clearly. we are born enemies. esau vs jacob. it is biblical 2 Likes |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by ccaramel(f): 8:40pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
sukkot:Why do you feel the need to smash down on me. She's an adult, she can confront me herself. You and I had no issues as we were discussing yesterday about the pros and cons of Canada. Pls grow up and have some sense. To think that I was even trying to have an intelligent conversation with you. Scratch that. In your face, up yours numbskull. Seriously I can take on all of you dumbo pessimists. Bring it on. Let me school you today 7 Likes |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Nobody: 8:41pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
sukkot:. Exactly, she started it and she claim she has Masters in Canada, Master ko, slave ni, forming funky online...... 1 Like |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Nobody: 8:41pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
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Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Demainman1: 8:42pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
ccaramel: That is the slave mentality we are talking about. Why can't the rich/our leaders build a Nigeria that can be compared to this abroad? Don't Nigeria have the means? A typical Nigeria rich man or leader suffer a chronic form of inferiority complex. Look at GEJ in the midst of Oyinbos you will see what I am talking about. You will know when we have good leaders, when they will build the country for all instead of sending only their children abroad as if abroad na heaven. Build Nigeria and see Nigeria become visa free to most places and nobody we consider abroad as any big deal i tell ypu. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by solomonwis(m): 8:43pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
sukkot: It's been a long time I laughed in Swahili...! Your definition of "security" is funny..I hope you are not running away from paying for some mortgage.... In your own house (paid for by cash),you can be robbed by product of a failed system, maimed and killed! So I doubt if owning your own house/having a roof over your head is the true definition of "security" 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by Nobody: 8:44pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
Lmao,you are so right. sukkot: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Am In Dilemma, Do We Relocate To Canada Or Stay Back by sukkot: 8:48pm On Feb 28, 2015 |
ccaramel:[b]and i can truly respect your point of view. like you said, it all comes down to our personalities. me myself ? its never really about the environmental infrastructure for me. its about the people. if i get a good vibe from the people then i feel relaxed. you have to remember it is the people who make a place what it is and not the infrastructure. you can be happy in a friendly poor environment and enjoy it because of the warmth of the people or you can be sad in a rich sophisticated environment because of the coldness and evil stares of the people. even white people are starting to get tired of living in a cold hostile environment and they are all running out of europe and america to places like goa in india and costa rica because the people are friendlier and life feels great. see ? its never about the infrastructure. you get peace of mind from the people around you. or at least that is how it is supposed to be. and all those things you mentioned like traffic jam etc are all part of the adventure. its all about mental orientation. if you can program yourself to see these things as an adventure as opposed to as a problem, you will open up and then start to enjoy it [/b] 1 Like |
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