@Faketan
I'm not falling for any bait, i work in law enforcement and if i tell you some of the things that Nigerians are doing you will be apalled ! Nigerians are too arrogant and self centered. It's about me me me me me for them !!!!

i found it hard to believe all this ish,i have a whole lot of southafrican friends.I've never recieved any kind of resentment 4rm them or a sign of jealousy,they are all blacks,they all believe we all are 1 and still coming up.even some ghanians i meet on the net,they all show me love .so whats the fuss abt this jealousy and all that.

this is a nice place to talk about 9ja. am new to this website. thanks for all the info's i've read so far. God bless

one thing , naija peeps are kool, they gat yo back 4 life,

My responce may not answer the question the poster asked but since we are talking about the relationship of Nigerians with other Countries, this may be an additional info.

My sister is presently in Senegal for business and she cannot believe the number of Nigerians who do business with Senegal.
She was told by her business parter to look out for the people who boarded the same flight with them on the streets of
Dakar and she was not disappointed.

She said Senegalese in the market go out of their way to learn English because of business from Nigerians.

The hotel she is staying is full of Nigerians, the question that she is repeatedly being asked by Senegalese is why Nigerians are so hardworking!


So you see, we also have great positive impact on this section of the continent different from the news of Naija 419 we hear everyday!

Sweet T:

@Faketan
I'm not falling for any bait, i work in law enforcement and if i tell you some of the things that Nigerians are doing you will be apalled ! Nigerians are too arrogant and self centered. It's about me me me me me for them !!!!

I hope you will not be annoyed if I asked you if you are nigerian?

What is the proportion of genuine nigerians involved in the so called crimes as compared to africans?

Let us know.

As a Naija man living in the UK, i would say a lot of other African countries hate us for the simple fact that many of them wish they were Nigerians, but are not. Then again, on the flipside, many of our compatriots' character and behaviour leave a lot less to be desired! and finally, the nigerian in diaspora many times spend half of their time villifying their own motherland. Many times i have white friends who tell me that they have heard all kind of nasty things about Nigeria, and all from Nigerians themselves! so i guess this situation is multifarious, and you can get as many reasons as you care to look for. What i know and believe is that UK or not, i will continue to represent Naija anyday! Even if the queen refuses knight me except i renounce Naija! God bless Nigeria!

I am a kenyan, and i dont hate nigerians, however there are things that personally i dont like about nigerians i.e arrogant and bossy. now i know it is not all the nigerians but majority of the nigerian men that i have socialised with were just too bossy and arrogant. dont get me wrong now, i dont hate my nigerian people, actually i almost dated a nigerian girl but she transfered to another college and my friend is nigerian and i love him no matter his shortcomings and i know he loves me no matter what. also some VERY FEW nigerians have done some things that have given u guyz a bad reputation and that is something that will take time to fade off. ALL IN ALL I VIEW A BLACK PERSON AS MY FELLOW AFRICAN AND A BROTHER FIRST the rest is determined by my experiences.

hmmm nice one there!

buhah buhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

oh well?

If hatred isn't here in Nigeria so why is everyone taliking of marginalization

that question is for them to answer.

I have been following this discussion from page one. It just reminds me of something that happened recently. A couple of months ago, I was in Germany and went out for dinner with some friends from various places, american, german , mexican. One of them came with a Tanzanian colleague. on hearing i was a Nigerian, he asked me why all Nigerians are loudmouthed and corrupt. Naturally, I was pissed but managed to restrain myself ands calmly asked him if it is true that all Tanzanians are lazy and dumb and can't think for themselves. Of course he denied it and did not did not find it funny. So I told him that I though I have heard that being said about Tanzanians, I am smart enough to know that it can't be true but however he was doing a good job of convincing me of the fact since he was obviously not smart enough to know that everyone of a 140million population cannot be all corrupt. The others were following the conversation with interest. Of course, he was very careful about the remarks he made to me after that. For me, it was really sad that that an attack like that came from a fellow African. However, he was in the minority because I have friends from Zambia, Uganda, Senegal, Malawi, Congo and Kenya and have never had problems with them
I must admit it is not easy being a Nigerian. however, God bless Naija

Proud of my Nigerian heritage.
Igbo to be precise.
Anyone that doesn't like it can go jump into The great  River Niger at the Asaba end.

Jealous my foot! Of what? Of selling drugs, pimping in Hilbrow, faking IDs and faking marriages, they call them contract wives,the list is endless. Come what may i will never envy this group of Nigerians who tarnish the image of good Nigerians, Its not only west africa, Its the entire world that hates the Naija posse

@tatenta, sweety, can you honestly say that the selling of drugs was introduced to South Africa by Nigerians, be honest now. The drug culture has been in South Africa LOOOOONG before any Nigerian came there my friend. Your people are the ones who are addicted to the drugs, even children. You are supplying the customers. These Nigerians left the most populous country in Africa to sell drugs to your people, what does it tell you about South Africans and addiction?

Fake ID's, so this was introduced to South Africa by Nigerians? Are you sure about that?

Look, its not Nigerians who are raping newborn babies to rid themselves of Aids. Lagos is not the crime capital of Africa, thats in South Africa, and its not because of Nigerians.

The world is   more appalled at the atrocities going on in South Africa than 419 or drug dealing Nigerians. I think you need to turn your attention to the villages full of children who have noone to bring them up because their parents and grandparents have died of Aids, rather than drug dealing Nigerians. I understand your anger at criminal Nigerians, please deport them. However it doesn't mean you can distort the reality of the non Nigerian populace in South Africa.

Nigerian drug dealers are  actually the least of South Africa's social problems.

Londoner, i agree 100% when you talk about rape in SA and also drug dealing etc, but the fact of the matter is, Nigerians are a headache to almost every gvt in this world, Who is being beheaded in Saudi Arabia, Thailand etc for drug traffiking? You know, i dont even have to mention it. The thing is Nigerians will do anything to get rich, even killing their own wives or children just because they want to live in a double storey and drive a 4x4, You live under the pressure of wanting to compete amongst yourselves, Londoner dear, dont get me wrong, i have a lot of Naija friends who are so cool. I play their music, some of it with pigeon English that i dont understand but it really entertains me. I have a problem with this group of Naijas in Hillbrow, Its those low lives from the populous country who come and do whatever so that when they go back home they can try and compete with the cream of Nigeria.

Tatenta, I totally understand, but what gets me annoyed is that South Africans will scream about Nigerian drug dealers, but wont say a peep about the Nigerian doctors and university lecturers who actually add to youyr country. you know as well as I do that there are people coming from Malawi, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Mozambique etc who are also getting into crime in your country yet you guys seems to want to give all of the blame to Nigeria.

The point is, much of the crime in SA, was already there to begin with. I'm not saying Nigerians don't add to it (or any other recent immigrant for that matter. But to put it all on the shoulders of Nigerians is actually quite reaching, as well as a distortion of the truth. As for your assertion that Nigerians are a headache to every government in the world, it depends on whether you weigh the Nigerian contribution while you are toting up our less than savoury individuals.

Why wouldn't you see us as a headache when you only look at our drugdealers and not our professors, our fraudstars instead of our businessmen, our pimps rather than our literary achievers. In fact, I think you'll find that when you also look at the contribution of African nationals around the world, Nigeria stands out far and above the rest.
At the end of the day, whether Nigerians are arrested for drug traffiking in Thailand or not, it doesn't change the fact that your own people are also not known for their moral integrity. In fact, the crimes we hear about in SA, by SA's goes far beyond crime, but is quite inhuman to be honest.

Having said that, I totally understand why you would take that stance against Nigerians, but you have to also be reasonable.

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I am a proud nigerian but the truth is that if i werent nigerian i 4 hate nigerians. We are arrongant, spiteful, coniving, corrupt busy bodies. How many nigerians lead a decent life. how many, credit card runs, stealing, womanising , lieing , ashawo work, to meantiuon but a few. Nigerians shld learn to be decent and be proud of it

Case closed!! It has been confirmed;they hate us but hatred does affect the hated it affects the hater

do you people know what hate is hate is a big word and ghana does not hate nigiria

LIFE IS A MATTER OF CHOICE!

Let them say wht they like about us, like an adage that say, "[i]i dont care what people say about me, i care for what i do, and i have, , rumours are carried by idots spreed by ignorants without, [/i]You see! telling ur friend negative side of is life will never change the fact that you yourself has ur own problems, and the problem of other nations that says bad things against our nation is taged to their conseption and mentality. They have little or no ideal of what it takes, let me refeers you back to the Bible, it takes about 400 yrs to Isrelites to dwel in the land of of Egipt, and it also takes alot of yrs to remove the mentality of Egipt in their system even in their own land.

This is to tell u that we have God who gave vision the He will raise Mighty men from our nation, you may not belive me now now wait for us, well even Joseph shared his own dream with his brothers but they could not belive him, it was yrs after that they have to belive in him, when we are through, wait for this next next generation. 'AS I ALWAYS SAID THAT IT TAKES A KNOWING TO MAKE A GOING' WE HAS VISIONS, WHENT THE VISION MANIFEST U ALL WE SEE US IN UR TELEVISION, or may be u dont understand the promise of God for us that says " I will restore to you the yrs that the locust, caterpillar, the cancarworms and other worms as eaten, and command the former and the latter rain to fall in our land, and that HE will made us to to pursure , overtake and recover all our lost glory.

For the bad heads amoung us, leave them alone the lord is giving them time to repent if not jugment is coming very soon for my God said 'the wealth of the wicked shall be laid in stock for children.

Pls dont ever cause our land pls. or u incure cures for ur self, b'cos the bible says i Will curse those that curse you and bless those that bless u.
SO IT IS A MATTER OF CHOICE choose wht u want? But i pray u and ur land are bless and so all other nations In Jesus name.

You just give us time. maybe u dont kwn the difference btwn HERE AND THERE. It is T and that signifies TIME
SO GIVE US TIME.

LONG LIVE NIGERIA! LONG LIVE AFRICA!!

I am not insulting anyone just making some statements as i know them to be. I have been living in many countries in Africa for over 23 years, and i have learnt a few things in that time my major bieng sociology and human behavioral interaction with a minor psycholgy

''I think that most other Africans are simply Jealous Of Nigerians.With all of our challenges, they wish they were like us. We are many and we bond together when we need to.WE are loud and necessarily don't have this servant mentality. From the good to the bad to the ugly, any first in black Africa,we are the one.'It gets under their skin and thats why they 'hate' us.''

Wrong . We have the slave mentality and a lot more but we are worse because we are ''deceptive''. The challenges may have been great but not unavoidable. The point is you cannot just say they are jealous, when you know how the greater populace has to live here.
''From the good to the ugly.'' Nice statement , but can you support that when the ugly outweighs the good tremendously. I can't.



''I think the reason is that a lot of oyibos only know about Nigeria when they think of African countries.
I have also met a few who thought other African countries were within Nigeria and one in particular that thought Africa was a country where men and wild animals co existed and she went ahead to tell me all these tales of Africa and the barbarian nature of "those people" until I told her I was African .
Her next statements were,I thought you said you were Nigerian and the second was,you definitely do not look African.''

Well you are a bit confused i can tell and you are obviously just making this up. I have been around in a lot of places in this life mostly africa and europe.
but your story is just a bit of ''yaddah yaddah''. If you know what i mean.









''I am very careful of Nigerians myself due to all the 419.That does not mean I hate my people.
The reality is that many Nigerians perhaps due to the lack and corruption in our nation are very corrupt,coniving and crafty.
I am careful when dealing with us even here in the states you can't let down your guards.
Wasn't it a Nigerian working in a bank in Houston that sold private info of customers to 419 people who got credit cards and ran up charges in the unsuspecting victims names. Do you know how many Nigerians including Doctors,pastors and Lawyers in American prisons for fraud and the like.
Our people have given us a bad name and it's an uphill task redeeming that image for the honest citizens.''

A very steep hill. I used to have Nigerian friends when i was in europe for a few years, they had okay jobs,even though being students, and had nice accomodations. Yet after a while i began finding out that they were pushing drugs ,and saw with my eyes that they were. I was almost arrested once just for being around them and since then it happened twice with other nigerians. Since then i had learnt my lesson. Why should i place myself in danger , because my ''fellow nigerians'' cannot try to abide by laws when we are in other countries. If you come here on the plane everyone is really nice and stuff , but as soonas you arrive in lagos for example, order and manners aswell as discipline that were present in people go out the window. As soon as the plane touches the tarmac everyone gets up and starts moving around ,when they should remain seated till the plane stops. then you hear really stupid comments from some people like '' i beg , we de fo nigeria know, you no fit tell me sometin.''




'but the thing is people from other african countries e,.g GHANA and elsewhere sef now do 419 in our name, so that we get all the flack for it.''.

Maybe but we are the main source we do it a lot more often and on a greater scale in numbers. If it were the majority of the people of another african nation that were doing it they would get the flack.

let them hate, it shouldn't stop us from taking over their countries
oh btw Naija4lyyyyyyyyffffffffffeeeee!!!!!!!!

Let us go and invade Cameroon they stole Bakassi from us. We can take it all and humiliate them.
Fire their yansh.

dont let any white or black or semite make you feel inferior it is a trap. Believe. The Jah is God.

Ija nbe nibiyi pelu skinishit(skinhead) ati ni ile pelu weredudu(evil black).

Black government leaders are the ultimate traitors they never do right for their folks. They just wanna make whitechikenshit rich.

God give us Power we beg thee.

hmmm nigerians headache ehh?

aid "eyeache"

alcade"noseache"

southafrica drugs addicts footache?

white ass lickers mouthache

gang killin in south africa earsache?

aids dramatic trend in the southafrica due to non believers in condom huhh

war mongers hmmm

china and the piratin to world economy oh well this is no global warnin ? u think

bullish goin on in kenya and zimbabeaw blame it on the nigerians

still me foolish africans!

na wao!!!

it looks like the transsistor is lackin fed-back signals it need.

blame it on superman!

don't they have every reason:



Nigerians sold weapons to murderers and torturers, stole the people's belongings, and stole a lot of the money that the international community donated for peacekeeping. Individuals may have served with honour, but on the whole they became part of the problem, instead of the solution. 

DUH!

if we are the problem, how come when something goes down in other african countries they call us to solve the problem?