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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 6:05pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
tdayof:Dayo!! Dayo!! ma pa mi Iwo omo yi |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SupremeCourt: 6:09pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
fufubear: The pot holes on Lagos Benin expressway started at the size of a rat, Nigerian government said its not a big problem, road must spoil when its used everyday. Till the pot holes increased to size of a cow and hundreds of Nigerians died in accidents and some robbed raped killed by armed robbers when they slow down to climb in and out of those pot holes at night. Keep defending NA T-72 that has many parts of armour fallen off exposing the soldiers inside to Boko Haram RPG hits that will blow up all the ammunition storage in the tank and burn our troops to ashes. Their lives don't matter, it's not your own son that will die, and it's not brigadier generals or senators that will die in our T-72 that now have less armour than the intelligent white man made to protect weak points of the tank. I blame my mother wey no born me for Japan, to be a Nigerian is a shame when you see how Nigerians think backwards. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ibrahimanees: 6:16pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
chunk of the money would be spent on the acquisition of military equipment and capacity building for the militaries of "neighbouring countries" http://thenationonlineng.net/boko-haram-necs-1b-approval-order-says-defence-minister/ |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:06pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
how many T 72 nigerian army have ? 50 received in 2014?
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:13pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
Odunayaw: 1.loss of surprise element , tanks r noisy , targets alerted 2.big logistic footprint , places a burden on operations , eats into efficiency 3.tank gunnery is hard pressed to locate fix and fire on small sized fleeting targets 4.risk of fratricide due to the nature of ammo used and close in encounters 5.demoralizing effect , losing even a single tank will effect the operations , while the tank protects u , who protects the tank 6.limited all round observation , totally minimized during hatch down conditions 7.no 'frontline' , in COIN ops hostiles r smart enough to pop up where u least expect them , some times everywhere 8.tank can be overwhelmed by dispersed dismounted insurgents converging in close proximity especially while utilizing 'hugging' tactic 9.there is a limit to gun barrel depression and elevation, can be exploited by smart insurgents based on terrain etc 10.susceptible to limitations imposed by operational environment 11.tanks r generally used as PIVOTs during coin ops, immobilize the pivot , generally everything gets immobilized , not necessarily though 12.false sense of invulnerability , not necessarily though etc etc note : it is my personal opinion , i may be wrong 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by fufubear: 7:36pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
Xbee007:Sure. You can think long term. Long term doesn't say T72 is junk and needs to be replaced now though. T72 and T90 have the same gun and fire the same ammo. They both can mount the same armor package too. With the T90 you only really get some other upgrades like SHTORA (which is pretty expensive to operate). The cost to upgrade to T90 isn't justified. Besides, I'd rather go China instead. The noose on ISIS is tightening. They are not really in the position to be gifting high quality ATGMS. SupremeCourt:Look, there is no hole in any armor plate on the T72 because that would be a deadlining fault for any nation (because at that point the tank doesn't serve it's purpose). The tank in the pictures are either missing sideskirts or splash guards. Those are all routine/optional features. That's not a sign of a vehicle in bad shape, it's a sign of a vehicle being used in the field. War isn't clean, go look at real operational photos of ww2 or any other large conflict. Not all the vehicles will be in factory fresh condition because it's simply impossible. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lionel4power(m): 9:45pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
IT IS A SAD THING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE PRAISING T-72 MBT AT THIS DAY AND AGE GOD HELP US 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 9:56pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
Xbee007:Thank you.I mentioned the point because Supreme Court who obviously does not know how to argue a point without insulting somebody believes he and only he knows the answer to all of Nigeria's problem. He has become an amusement commodity on this blog where if you disagree with his comments somehow you are less of a Nigerian. Tank Technology at it's base has not changed since WW2. The infatuation he has with the T90 simply shows his ignorance.The enemy we are fighting at best has a few stolen apcs and Toyota trucks. Nigeria is fighting an asymmetric war not pitched Tank Battles. An Army officer came on this blog and totally discredited him .I discredited with the numerous ambushes that the Yemenis and Houthis have had on the Heaviest Tank in the World the M1 Abrams his response ? They are old Tanks Lol. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 10:00pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
By all means buy new Tanks.The war will end when the main leaders of bh are captured or killed and that comes from better intelligence and better Military commanders. Maj Gen Nichols is an example of what is needed to end this war. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:44pm On Dec 17, 2017 |
IFV and more MRAPs should be at the fore front of this discussion. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SupremeCourt: 12:49am On Dec 18, 2017 |
fufubear: New CIA and UN reports on CNN, Al-Jazeera, BBC is that ISIS is losing in Arabia and migrating down to Africa, including West Africa to find easier targets like Niger, Sudan, Mali or your rusted T-72 boasting Nigeria. Planning ahead to defeat danger flowing to your country, is strange doctrine to block heads like you, to you all it looks foolish to be wise and avoid habit of fire brigade looking for water when house has burned people to death, you never get your water and chemicals in advance and right quantity, that is your black man curse since A.D. 1706. All of you shouting T-72 is almost same as T-90 are pure breed mugus. T-90 Self defence shtora is easy to remove and store if you dont need it till terrorists bring anti-tank missiles. T-90 has new ammunition storage protection to avoid blowing itself up and cooking our soldiers with their own explosive shells, new model 125mm gun, shtora missile blocker, new model 8km range camera, new model 5km range gun camera, new passive mixed amour, all those are missing from T-72 you block head! Dem swear for you from village or MTN block your internet you cannot google T-90? Are you blind or just an idiiot? That Nigerian T-72 is ERA model and over 60 pieces of its ERA armour have fallen off and disappeared completely exposing the tank to RPG that Boko Haram can use to cook all the ammunition inside and kill those innocent soldiers Look at image A when our T-72 arrived all ERA complete, next image B when the ERA began to fall away one by one with no replacement till image C when all the ERA armour broke off pata pata and vanished from the whole side and half of the front, the only remaining ERA are the ones on the turret, that is a Nigerian ERA model T-72 stripped half naked by overdose of work. I said Nigerian T-72 tanks are breaking into pieces and fools are telling me I am wrong. Until 100 Nigerian soldiers die inside those broken armour T-72 before you call for T-90? Bros go river side ask prophet to wash ya head for you before it is too late.
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 12:53am On Dec 18, 2017 |
lionel4power: You didn't follow from the beginning I guess. SupremeCourt claimed Nigeria's T-72 tanks are falling apart and he was asked to prove his claims. He ended up trying to make things look like T-72 tanks are useless in COIN and we all hate T-90 tanks because we are black men, we don't like progress etc. He successfully moved the discussion to his comfort zone while dodging the main question he was asked. For me $1 billion isn't that much and buying some Russian SU-30/mig 35, yak_130, and more MRAPs to replace the hilux will help the military a lot. We haven't even talked of other procurement/expenses the military can't run from and the money is almost finished. Someone is here claiming T-90 must be bought because T-72 are falling apart because of 1pic he saw on Internet. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tdayof(m): 1:06am On Dec 18, 2017 |
SupremeCourt: Bros we're not gullible here. ZTE transoorted our T-72s which was later flown with Ukraine AN it's on their website. The T72 shipped to Nigeria from Hungary have no ERA. STOP LYING MAN http://zte.pl/en/news/t-72s-transported-zte
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SupremeCourt: 1:14am On Dec 18, 2017 |
iblawi: Look up this page idiiot, I have posted the photos of Nigerian T-72 with 60 missing ERA blocks that fell off never replaced, look up this page I posted 3 photos joined together of our tanks when they arrived and what they have fallen to now. Keep lying to yourself, una no get shame, the proofs are here, you still deny. Quote me where I said T-72 is useless in COIN, I am the one who has repeated it worked for us in 2014-2015 but not guaranteed to work in 2020 if Shekau steps up his game. I said dont replace tokunbo T-72 with another tokunbo T-72 if you have any common sense or value for the life of Nigerian soldiers whose parents will bury if the die avoidable death. Quote where I said T-72 is uselss in COIN, your value in Libya market is down to $200 bros! 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tdayof(m): 1:18am On Dec 18, 2017 |
Maybe I should thank Dasuki for taking this pictures after delivery. Maybe Mr Dasuki ate the ERA. 2 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SupremeCourt: 1:20am On Dec 18, 2017 |
tdayof: Where did I ever say all Nigerian tanks have ERA, or did I tell you I am a blind man who does not see that we also have T-72 model imported without ERA? I wont repeat same comment, look up this page, I posted 3 photos joined together of Nigerian T-72 ERA model when it arrived, when the ERA armour began to fall off one by one, and final disappearance of 60 ERA blocks on one tank! STOP BEING A FOOL BROS, justify the money spent to send you to school. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 1:29am On Dec 18, 2017 |
SupremeCourt: SupremeCourt: Do I need to post more? You are worthless as a slave in South Sudan. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SupremeCourt: 1:32am On Dec 18, 2017 |
iblawi: I said T-72 is a bad tank when its ammunition storage is hit by anti-tank, it blows itself up, and that is truth proved by the war videos. I did not say it is useless in COIN against Boko Haram that has no anti-tank as at today. Quote me saying T-72 is useless in COIN or else Libyans will donate you for free to farm work at no dollar value, they wont pay for junk. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 1:35am On Dec 18, 2017 |
SupremeCourt: Keep fooling yourself. If you know some came without ERA and still haven't blown up for over 3 years in active combat then why do you want to kill yourself? 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SupremeCourt: 1:41am On Dec 18, 2017 |
iblawi: You are the fool that wants to wait for Boko Haram to step up their game and get ISIS anti-tanks to blow up a dozen Nigerian T-72 so that other people's sons will die at age 30 yrs leaving wives and babies behind, then you will call for Nigeria to do the usual medicine after death fire brigade system to buy us T-90. You no get any proactive and predictive intelligence at all, so in Libya market the final auction bell rings over your empty head and no buyer, you are donated to farm owners as free labourer. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 1:46am On Dec 18, 2017 |
SupremeCourt: It's worthless replying you. You're just a waste of time. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tdayof(m): 2:01am On Dec 18, 2017 |
The self proclaimed American researcher is somewhere in Singapore or where is it called telling DHQ what to do. Common sense doesn't seems to be common. As you can see the ERA are being hit by RPG. Mr, all this English stuff and dumb write-up of yours makes no meaning. Priorities first, we have enough tanks to pound BHT. Yes we need to start equipping our military for future threats but as for now, we need to take our boys out of those skinny Toyota and get then MRAPS, AFV, IFV to pound BHT positions. A whole shilka is more dangerous in the North East than a T-14 armata . So we need to equip IFV, AFV and not tanks for now. When getting tanks, we should get some ACV with tank killer capabilities. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:00am On Dec 18, 2017 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 12:48pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
iblawi:Greatest discovery of the day bro How can someone be so incoherent 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by fufubear: 3:20pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
SupremeCourt:If they are losing and migrating to Affrica then they certainly won't have their high quality equipment. They would just be adding more bodies to the conflict. All of you shouting T-72 is almost same as T-90 are pure breed mugus. T-90 Self defence shtora is easy to remove and store if you dont need it till terrorists bring anti-tank missiles. T-90 has new ammunition storage protection to avoid blowing itself up and cooking our soldiers with their own explosive shells, new model 125mm gun, shtora missile blocker, new model 8km range camera, new model 5km range gun camera, new passive mixed amour, all those are missing from T-72 you block head! Dem swear for you from village or MTN block your internet you cannot google T-90?T-90 has the same ammunition protection. The issue with the ammo of the T-72/T-90 is it's carousel. That was only changed on the T-14. Both tanks use the same 2a46 125mm gun. You can equip that other stuff on a T-72B (aka a T-90). Are you blind or just an idiiot? That Nigerian T-72 is ERA model and over 60 pieces of its ERA armour have fallen off and disappeared completely exposing the tank to RPG that Boko Haram can use to cook all the ammunition inside and kill those innocent soldiersThat's not proof of a tank falling apart. ERA is an easy fix. Look at image A when our T-72 arrived all ERA complete, next image B when the ERA began to fall away one by one with no replacement till image C when all the ERA armour broke off pata pata and vanished from the whole side and half of the front, the only remaining ERA are the ones on the turret, that is a Nigerian ERA model T-72 stripped half naked by overdose of work.and how will a T-90 fix this issue? A T-90 relies on ERA just as much. Maybe you should be asking for an ERA plant to be established instead of T-90s? I said Nigerian T-72 tanks are breaking into pieces and fools are telling me I am wrong. Until 100 Nigerian soldiers die inside those broken armour T-72 before you call for T-90? Bros go river side ask prophet to wash ya head for you before it is too late.They are not breaking into pieces. They are just being used. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Habane(m): 4:17pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Habane(m): 4:19pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Habane(m): 4:29pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ibrahimanees: 4:53pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Habane:1st pic, where is that? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 4:58pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Habane:Last pic. the brigade brought itself out |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ibrahimanees: 5:14pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
PMB extend the tenure of Service Chiefs for the second time. http://thenationonlineng.net/buhari-extends-tenure-service-chiefs-2/ |
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