emusmith:


Can you summarize your NOTE in one sentence?

Quoran is a fraud. In one sentence.

EzioAuditore:


And Muhammad had 9 wives not 13. He did not sleep with slaves like you accuse him of doing.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) contracted some of his marriages for sociopolitical reasons. His principal concern was the future of Islam. He was interested in strengthening the Muslims by all bonds. That is why he married the young daughter of Abu Bakr, his First Successor, and the daughter of `Umar, his Second Successor. It was by his marriage to Juwayriyyah that he gained the support for Islam of the whole clan of Bani Al-Mustaliq and their allied tribes. It was through marriage to Safiyyah that he neutralized a great section of the hostile Jews of Arabia. By accepting Mariyah, the Copt from Egypt, as his wife, he formed a political alliance with a king of great magnitude. It was also a gesture of friendship with a neighboring king that Muhammad married Zaynab who was presented to him by the Negus of Abyssinia in whose territory the early Muslims found safe refuge. And where did you Christians get monogamy from eh? Islam is the only religion that restricts marriage and one can only marry more than one wife under special circumstances.

All what you wrote here does not fit a prophet, prophet don't fight war or find earthly pleasure,prophet don't marry little child, (the marriage of Aisha was a political reason,right?) infacte before muhammed became a prophet, he marry a rich woman kadijah who was older than him, infacte it was kadijah who advice him, the calling of muhammed by the spirit being is a calling from God, is kadijah a prophetess?a woman who has no knowledge of the true God.

EzioAuditore:


He knew when he was dying like I said, that's why he gave the farewell sermon, but telling the people will only bring panic and so he didn't. Did you not read my last post? If this is your best argument then you are off point. Did Jesus give you a date of when he's coming back? Rubbish!

see, the verse is clear, even Allah don't know how muhammed will died.
Surah 3:144: “Muhammad is no
more than a Messenger: Many were
the messengers that passed away
before him. IF HE DIED OR WERE SLAIN ,
will ye then turn back on your
heels?” (Yusuf Ali)

After the posion muhammed ate from the food start working, muhammed know he will died soon ,this are hid last word;

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the LAST MOMENT of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah CURSE THE JEWS AND CHRISIANS for they built the places
of worship at the graves of their
Prophets.”

Ibn Sa’d, page 322:
When the LAST MOMENT OF THE
PROPHET WAS NEAR, he used to draw a
sheet over his face; but when he felt
uneasy, he removed it from his face
and said: “Allah’s DAMNATION BE ON
THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS who
made the graves of their prophets
objects of worship.”

EzioAuditore:


Here's the what the bible says about slavery.


Let us look at Deuteronomy 24:7 "If a man is caught kidnapping one of his brother Israelites and treats him as a slave or sells him, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you." This verse quite clearly states that the Israeli is better in human value than any other human being in the eyes of GOD. If an Israeli is treated as a slave, then we would have the world's greatest problems. But however, it is ok to treat others as slaves, and to kill them too according to Exodus 21:20 above.

Let us look at Leviticus 25:39 "If one of your countrymen becomes poor among you and sells himself to you, do not make him work as a slave." This verse seems to despise the slaves by ordering people to be merciful on others from the same tribe and not to treat them bad and not to make them work as slaves. It is quite obvious that his verse doesn't believe in human equality.


Now, let us look at this verse Exodus 21:32 "If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be stoned. (but not to death)"




Unfortunately, there is no equality between human beings in Christianity! Christians like to think that the Bible honors all human beings and loves all human beings, but the reality proves otherwise.

Let us look at Galatians 4:28-31 "Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. But what does the Scripture say? 'Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son.' Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman." This verse from the New Testament despises children who are born from slave mothers. This verse doesn't recognize children born from slave mothers as normal sons because they are not allowed to inherit. This verse doesn't recognize slaves as equal to normal human beings. This verse agrees fully 100% with slavery and enslaving people.

Let us look at Philemon 15-19 "Perhaps the reason he was separated from you for a little while was that you might have him back for good no longer as a slave, but better than a slave, as a dear brother. He is very dear to me but even dearer to you, both as a man and as a brother in the Lord. So if you consider me a partner, welcome him as you would welcome me. If he has done you any wrong or owes you anything, charge it to me. I, Paul, am writing this with my own hand. I will pay it back not to mention that you owe me your very self." This verse is another proof that the Bible (1) Looks as slaves as sub humans or animals as was shown in Exodus 23:12 and Leviticus 25:46, (2) A slave is a despised person that he will never ever be recognized as a normal human being unless he becomes a Christian. If the slave refuses to become a Christian, then he will never gain his freedom, and he will never be even looked at as a human being; he must always be treated as an animal by the Christians.

Let us look at 1 Corinthians 7 "Were you a slave when you were called? Don't let it trouble you although if you can gain your freedom, do so. For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord's freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ's slave." In this verse, Paul was asking the person "Were you a slave?" meaning Were you something bad and not normal?

Also "...if you can gain your freedom, do so... (1 Corinthians 7)" which means that the New Testament will not help anyone nor will call any Christian to fight for the rights of any slave to be freed. The slave will simply have to either live as a slave and die as a slave, or fight for his freedom against Christians.

Let us look at 1 Timothy 6:1 "All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered."

Matthew 10:24 "A student is not greater than the teacher. A slave is not greater than the master."

Let us look at 1 Peter 2:18 "Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

Let us look at Colossians 3:22 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord."

Abraham a Jew, God convent was with him,it was through him that God will fill up the world, being chosen is like a curse to the Jews, because God will not give way to there sinful pleasure, that why the Jews keep on disobeyed God and God always punished them, you live in this world were you are fallible to sin, and God chose you, is like an uphill task.

First, we must recognize that the Bible
does not say God supports slavery. In
fact, the slavery described in the Old
Testament was quite different from the
kind of slavery we think of today - in
which people are captured and sold as
slaves. According to Old Testament law,
anyone caught selling another person
into slavery was to be executed:

"He who kidnaps a man, whether he
sells him or he is found in his
possession, shall surely be put to
death." ( Exodus 21:16)

So, obviously, slavery during Old Testament times was not what we
commonly recognize as slavery, such as
that practiced in the 17th century Americas, when Africans were captured
and forcibly brought to work on plantations. Unlike our modern
government welfare programs, there was no safety-net for ancient Middle
Easterners who could not provide a living for themselves. In ancient Israel, people who could not provide for themselves or their families sold them into slavery so they would not die of starvation or exposure. In this way, a person would receive food and housing in exchange for labor.

So, although there are rules about slavery in the Bible, those rules exist to protect the slave. Injuring or killing slaves was punishable - up to death of the offending party. Hebrews were
commanded not to make their slave work on the Sabbath, slander a slave, have sex with another man's slave, or return an escaped slave. A Hebrew was not to enslave his fellow countryman, even if he owed him money, but was to have him work as a hired worker, and he was to be released in years or in the year of jubilee (which occurred every 50 years), whichever came first. In fact, the slave owner was encouraged to "pamper his slave".

emusmith:


Sir, the rules of NL has it that threads are meant to be in the proper sections where they can be read by those who understand them.

when the thread are in this section muslims read it and attempt the question, as long as muslims are allow to coment here and create topics, they see here just like there section. If you decided to take my thread to the Islamic section, then the mod in that section should unban me so that I can ask my question.

malvisguy212:
see, the verse is clear, even Allah don't know how muhammed will died.
Surah 3:144: “Muhammad is no
more than a Messenger: Many were
the messengers that passed away
before him. IF HE DIED OR WERE SLAIN ,
will ye then turn back on your
heels?” (Yusuf Ali)

After the posion muhammed ate from the food start working, muhammed know he will died soon ,this are hid last word;

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8,
Number 427:
Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin
‘Abbas: When the LAST MOMENT of
the life of Allah’s Apostle came he
started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his
face and when he felt hot and short
of breath he took it off his face and
said , “May Allah CURSE THE JEWS AND CHRISIANS for they built the places
of worship at the graves of their
Prophets.”

Ibn Sa’d, page 322:
When the LAST MOMENT OF THE
PROPHET WAS NEAR, he used to draw a
sheet over his face; but when he felt
uneasy, he removed it from his face
and said: “Allah’s DAMNATION BE ON
THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS who
made the graves of their prophets
objects of worship.”

Bloody Friggin hell! Its like arguing with an ankle biter! That verse wasn't meant to tell people how Muhammad was going to die! It was meant to show the people that whatever happens to Muhammad they should not turn their backs on their God because he was but a messenger. And as to your latter claims, where do you get these lies from? Muhammad did not die from poisoning even though he and a fellow companion was poisoned, the companion died right away, Muhammad died 3 years after that, care to back your claim? Let's even assume he died from poisoning, clearly you don't read the bible matthew 23:37 where jesus clearly staes that jews do kill their prophets so that doesnt disvalidate Muhammad. Anyway, Muhammad died of natural causes, not of poisoning like you said. As for the jews, both Jesus and moses never liked them, they betrayed the muslims time and time again, not all jews are bad but they as a people are always against muslims.

truthman2012:


I asked a simple question: Which laws of Jesus do you abide with and where did you get them, but see the lengthy essay you have written, full of irrelevancies.

Now, you are quoting and saying you are obeying the laws from the bible. Is the bible the same as the quran? Is the laws in the bible the same as sharia law?

Jesus said to honour the laws of past prophets, atleast we honour thoses laws I mentioned. At least we don't call him good like you do, at least we don't call him GOD! Now answer my questions.

malvisguy212:
Abraham a Jew, God convent was with him,it was through him that God will fill up the world, being chosen is like a curse to the Jews, because God will not give way to there sinful pleasure, that why the Jews keep on disobeyed God and God always punished them, you live in this world were you are fallible to sin, and God chose you, is like an uphill task.

First, we must recognize that the Bible
does not say God supports slavery. In
fact, the slavery described in the Old
Testament was quite different from the
kind of slavery we think of today - in
which people are captured and sold as
slaves. According to Old Testament law,
anyone caught selling another person
into slavery was to be executed:

"He who kidnaps a man, whether he
sells him or he is found in his
possession, shall surely be put to
death." ( Exodus 21:16)

So, obviously, slavery during Old Testament times was not what we
commonly recognize as slavery, such as
that practiced in the 17th century Americas, when Africans were captured
and forcibly brought to work on plantations. Unlike our modern
government welfare programs, there was no safety-net for ancient Middle
Easterners who could not provide a living for themselves. In ancient Israel, people who could not provide for themselves or their families sold them into slavery so they would not die of starvation or exposure. In this way, a person would receive food and housing in exchange for labor.

So, although there are rules about slavery in the Bible, those rules exist to protect the slave. Injuring or killing slaves was punishable - up to death of the offending party. Hebrews were
commanded not to make their slave work on the Sabbath, slander a slave, have sex with another man's slave, or return an escaped slave. A Hebrew was not to enslave his fellow countryman, even if he owed him money, but was to have him work as a hired worker, and he was to be released in years or in the year of jubilee (which occurred every 50 years), whichever came first. In fact, the slave owner was encouraged to "pamper his slave".

Why are you then condemning slavery in Islam? Do you know the laws of slavery in islam? Is the bible contradicting itself if it supports slavery in this part of the New testament and then rejects it in another? Or is the law rejecting slavery just about israelites? Are they superior to other humans? You christians are the biggest hypocrites of all, you use the parts of the bible you choose and suppress the other parts and then point fingers at others? Lmao! Your habit of selective morality is really getting old.

malvisguy212:
All what you wrote here does not fit a prophet, prophet don't fight war or find earthly pleasure,prophet don't marry little child, (the marriage of Aisha was a political reason,right?) infacte before muhammed became a prophet, he marry a rich woman kadijah who was older than him, infacte it was kadijah who advice him, the calling of muhammed by the spirit being is a calling from God, is kadijah a prophetess?a woman who has no knowledge of the true God.

Lmao! Here you go shooting yourself in the feet! Did Moses not fight religious wars? Go to deurotomy! Ooh the atrocities you guys claim Moses committed, slaughtering women and children? Is that befitting of a prophet, or is moses not a prophet now? What do you consider a little child? Not even his enemies used his marriage to Aisha (RA) against him, the definition of a woman is a girl that reaches puberty, times were different, but then the bible has verses that refer to Moses and his people raping 3 year olds does it not? Khadijah was only the prophets rock when he was shivering after the first revelation. That is why she is his most beloved wife until her death. You christians and your selective morality never seizes to amaze me.

EzioAuditore:


Why are you then condemning slavery in Islam? Do you know the laws of slavery in islam? Is the bible contradicting itself if it supports slavery in this part of the New testament and then rejects it in another? Or is the law rejecting slavery just about israelites? Are they superior to other humans? You christians are the biggest hypocrites of all, you use the parts of the bible you choose and suppress the other parts and then point fingers at others? Lmao! Your habit of selective morality is really getting old.

do you read what I said?slavery in the old testament was different from the Islamic slavery,there is voluntary slavery where someone will want to work for money or wife,example was Jacob ,he volunteers to work so that he could Mary the woman he love.


This are the law to protect someone who volunteers to be slave;
1. "If a man strikes his male or female
slave with a rod and he dies at his
hand, he shall be
punished." ( Exodus 21:20)
"If a man strikes the eye of his male
or female slave, and destroys it, he
shall let him go free on account of
his eye. "And if he knocks out a
tooth of his male or female slave, he
shall let him go free on account of
his tooth." (Exodus 21:26-27)
"He who strikes a man so that he
dies shall surely be put to
death." ( Exodus 21:12)
2. "Six days you are to do your work,
but on the seventh day you shall
cease from labor so that your ox and
your donkey may rest, and the son
of your female slave, as well as your
stranger, may refresh themselves.
(Exodus 23:12)
3. Do not slander a slave to his master,
Or he will curse you and you will be
found guilty. ( Proverbs 30:10)
4. 'Now if a man lies carnally with a
woman who is a slave acquired for
another man, but who has in no way
been redeemed nor given her
freedom, there shall be punishment;
they shall not, however, be put to
death, because she was not free.
( Leviticus 19:20)
5. "You shall not hand over to his
master a slave who has escaped
from his master to you.
( Deuteronomy 23:15)

But the slaves in the quran, Allah made it lawful for muhammed and his companion to have se'x with them.

EzioAuditore:


Lmao! Here you go shooting yourself in the feet! Did Moses not fight religious wars? Go to deurotomy! Ooh the atrocities you guys claim Moses committed, slaughtering women and children? Is that befitting of a prophet, or is moses not a prophet now? What do you consider a little child? Not even his enemies used his marriage to Aisha (RA) against him, the definition of a woman is a girl that reaches puberty, times were different, but then the bible has verses that refer to Moses and his people raping 3 year olds does it not? Khadijah was only the prophets rock when he was shivering after the first revelation. That is why she is his most beloved wife until her death. You christians and your selective morality never seizes to amaze me.

listen, Moses era was a time when the isrealite were held in bondage, in the old kings fight war and the prophet stand as spiritual leaders to the kings, during the time of Moses,there is no king at that time for them, Moses was there leader and spiritual leader at the same time. It was after the isrealite settled and appoint a king the kings fought war for them. David whom the quran callled prophet was not a prophet but a king, it was Samuel the prophet who anoint David.

EzioAuditore:


Also, you must not forget that Muhammad was the person who arranged the marriage in the first place, no one was forced to divorce anyone, he had already divorced her before Muhammad married her and it was after the marriage that those verses were sent down. You can accept the true explanation, or you can keep deceiving yourself,

Keep telling your lies to the spiritually gullible. To every right thinking person, that verse is clear enough that divorcement was arranged after allah had enjoined Muhammad to marry Zynab, the wife of his son. To further tell you that it was after allah's statement that divorcement was arranged, Muhammad, being hollier than his god, was initially reluctant to marry her but the unholy allah persisted. Read the verse with understanding.

malvisguy212:
do you read what I said?slavery in the old testament was different from the Islamic slavery,there is voluntary slavery where someone will want to work for money or wife,example was Jacob ,he volunteers to work so that he could Mary the woman he love.


This are the law to protect someone who volunteers to be slave;
1. "If a man strikes his male or female
slave with a rod and he dies at his
hand, he shall be
punished." ( Exodus 21:20)
"If a man strikes the eye of his male
or female slave, and destroys it, he
shall let him go free on account of
his eye. "And if he knocks out a
tooth of his male or female slave, he
shall let him go free on account of
his tooth." (Exodus 21:26-27)
"He who strikes a man so that he
dies shall surely be put to
death." ( Exodus 21:12)
2. "Six days you are to do your work,
but on the seventh day you shall
cease from labor so that your ox and
your donkey may rest, and the son
of your female slave, as well as your
stranger, may refresh themselves.
(Exodus 23:12)
3. Do not slander a slave to his master,
Or he will curse you and you will be
found guilty. ( Proverbs 30:10)
4. 'Now if a man lies carnally with a
woman who is a slave acquired for
another man, but who has in no way
been redeemed nor given her
freedom, there shall be punishment;
they shall not, however, be put to
death, because she was not free.
( Leviticus 19:20)
5. "You shall not hand over to his
master a slave who has escaped
from his master to you.
( Deuteronomy 23:15)

But the slaves in the quran, Allah made it lawful for muhammed and his companion to have se'x with them.

The sort of slavery in Islam is very different from that which is practised today, you must understand that, just as you claim that modern day slavery is different from that of the bible. And your bible clearly states its permissible to have sex with a slave but not that of another man, the same applies in islam.

truthman2012:


Keep telling your lies to the spiritually gullible. To every right thinking person, that verse is clear enough that divorcement was arranged after allah had enjoined Muhammad to marry Zynab, the wife of his son. To further tell you that it was after allah's statement that divorcement was arranged, Muhammad, being hollier than his god, was initially reluctant to marry her but the unholy allah persisted. Read the verse with understanding.

And did you not read the part that said "when he (Zayd) was done with her"? Or do you not speak English? Who's lacking in understanding here? Whoever claims Muhammad is hollier than God, that's....a blasphemy. Whatever Muhammad does is holy but he can't do what he does without Allahs commandment.

malvisguy212:
listen, Moses era was a time when the isrealite were held in bondage, in the old kings fight war and the prophet stand as spiritual leaders to the kings, during the time of Moses,there is no king at that time for them, Moses was there leader and spiritual leader at the same time. It was after the isrealite settled and appoint a king the kings fought war for them. David whom the quran callled prophet was not a prophet but a king, it was Samuel the prophet who anoint David.

And the Arabs weren't persecuted when Muhammad came? Muhammad never started a war but he and his people had to defend themselves like it all started in the battle of badr where 300 muslims won against more than a thousand meccans. Jesus did foretell of a prophet like moses did he not, the bible does foretell of a prophet who like moses will come with new laws did it not? Do you know that there were jews who migrated to Arabia because of that prophesy to wait for Muhammad? Its like christians don't even read their own bible, only the parts they choose to.

EzioAuditore:


The sort of slavery in Islam is very different from that which is practised today, you must understand that, just as you claim that modern day slavery is different from that of the bible. And your bible clearly states its permissible to have sex with a slave but not that of another man, the same applies in islam.

where in the quran it gives the law to protect slaves? The quran does not teach love towards unbelievers let alone slaves.the slaves in the quran is still the same practice today until you provide evidence for your claimed.

EzioAuditore:


And the Arabs weren't persecuted when Muhammad came? Muhammad never started a war but he and his people had to defend themselves like it all started in the battle of badr where 300 muslims won against more than a thousand meccans. Jesus did foretell of a prophet like moses did he not, the bible does foretell of a prophet who like moses will come with new laws did it not? Do you know that there were jews who migrated to Arabia because of that prophesy to wait for Muhammad? Its like christians don't even read their own bible, only the parts they choose to.

who persecuted the Arab? Is it the christians or Jews? Muhammed forced the pagan to submit to his family gods called Allah.

malvisguy212:
who persecuted the Arab? Is it the christians or Jews? Muhammed forced the pagan to submit to his family gods called Allah.

Muhammad and what army? Muhammad started as a humble man and the Meccans persecuted him and his followers, that's why he migrated to medina and even after then they decided to follow him there to exterminate him, that's when the battle of Badr was fought. You should read about it. He did not force Islam on the Meccans, he didn't force anyone to convert to his faith because he lived with Jews and Christians alike, even idol worshippers but under certain conditions.

malvisguy212:
where in the quran it gives the law to protect slaves? The quran does not teach love towards unbelievers let alone slaves.the slaves in the quran is still the same practice today until you provide evidence for your claimed.

That's where you're wrong! You are so misinformed about Muslims and Islam it's frightening, this is the Islamic law about slaves. We must treat slaves with respect, and must also feed them what you eat and so on...


1- Treatment of Slaves in Islam.
2- A slave can request and earn his freedom from his Muslim Master.



Let us look at the following Sayings from our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him:

Abu Mas'ud al-Ansari reported: "When I was beating my servant, I heard a voice behind me (saying): Abu Mas'ud, bear in mind Allah has more dominance over you than you have upon him. I turned and (found him) to be Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). I said: Allah's Messenger, I set him free for the sake of Allah. Thereupon he said: Had you not done that, (the gates of) Hell would have opened for you, or the fire would have burnt you. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4088)"

Abu Mas'ud al-Badri reported: "I was beating my slave with a whip when I heard a voice behind me: Understand, Abu Masud; but I did not recognise the voice due to intense anger. He (Abu Mas'ud) reported: As he came near me (I found) that he was the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and he was saying: Bear in mind, Abu Mas'ud; bear in mind. Abu Mas'ud. He (Aba Maslad) said: threw the whip from my hand. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Bear in mind, Abu Mas'ud; verily Allah has more dominance upon you than you have upon your slave. I (then) said: I would never beat my servant in future. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4086)"

Abu Mas'ud reported that he had been beating his slave and he had been saying: "I seek refuge with Allah, but he continued beating him, whereupon he said: I seek refuge with Allah's Messenger, and he spared him. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: By Allah, God has more dominance over you than you have over him (the slave). He said that he set him free. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Shu'ba with the same chain of transmitters, but made no mention of (these words) of his: I seek refuge with Allah, I seek refuge with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4089)"

If a Muslim beats his slave or slaps him on the face, then he must set him free:

"Zadhan reported that Ibn Umar called his slave and he found the marks (of beating) upon his back. He said to him: I have caused you pain. He said: No. But he (Ibn Umar) said: You are free. He then took hold of something from the earth and said: There is no reward for me even to the weight equal to it. I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him, then expiation for it is that he should set him free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4079)"

The above Sayings of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him are very straight forward. If a Muslim beats his slave, then the gates of hell will open for him. Muslims must not mistreat their slaves, because slaves in Islam are like brothers:

Narrated Al-Ma'rur: At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "When the slave of anyone amongst you prepares food for him and he serves him after having sat close to (and undergoing the hardship of) heat and smoke, he should make him (the slave) sit along with him and make him eat (along with him), and if the food seems to run short, then he should spare some portion for him (from his own share) - (another narrator) Dawud said:" i. e. a morsel or two". 4097. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4096)"

Narrated AbuDharr: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Feed those of your slaves who please you from what you eat and clothe them with what you clothe yourselves, but sell those who do not please you and do not punish Allah's creatures. (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab, Book 41, Number 5142)"





2- Slaves are not meant to be slaves, because eventually they will all be set free. A slave in Islam can request and be granted his freedom from his master:

First, it is important to know that thousands of years ago life was different than today. Today, people wouldn't accept slavery for any reason. The reason for this is because people are a lot more independent both financially, education wise, mentally, etc... But people back then were different. When a tribe or a group of people lose a major battle and their money is mostly, if not all, is taken as war booty by the other side, then people could and would accept being slaves for the following reasons:

1- Both financial and social security. When their country or tribe lost the war, they also lost most or all of their money as war booty. Being out of money and food, it becomes necessary for an individual to find the means for basic survival in life. Living as a slave would provide this.

2- Protection from hostile individuals. Even under the Islamic rule, you can still find hostile individuals who violate the Law and take matters into their own hands. An enemy family can be sometime in danger if they don't have a "protector".

3- Widows, Orphans, and the extremely poor of the enemy side need the financial and social protection from a Master. Back then, there were no governments with good social system that protects everyone. Slavery back then was that social system in special cases.

There are probably more points I can add, but I think these are sufficient enough. Let us now see the Islamic System toward Slaves:



Slaves can request and get their freedom from their Muslim Masters:

Yes slaves were taken from the blood-thirsty and hostile enemies, but they were also given the right to get their freedom when ever they want. The Noble Quran not only allows slaves to request their freedom from their Muslim masters, but also orders the Muslim masters to pay the slaves money to help them stand on their feet and to be able to face life with a good jump start.

Let us look at Noble Verse 24:33 "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them)," In this Noble Verse, we see that if a slave requests his freedom from his Muslim master, then his master not only must help him earn his freedom if there is good in the Slave, but also pay him money so the slave can have a good start in his free life.

"The law of slavery in the legal sense of the term is now obsolete. While it had any meaning, Islam made the slave's lot as easy as possible. A slave, male or female, could ask for conditional manumission by a written deed fixing the amount required for manumission and allowing the slave meanwhile to earn money by lawful means and perhaps marry and bring up a family. Such a deed was not to be refused if the request was genuine and the slave had character. Not only that, but the master is directed to help with money out of his own resources in order to enable the slave to earn his or her own liberty." [2]

Again, the Prophet peace be upon him said:

Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

Narrated Asma: "No doubt the Prophet ordered people to manumit slaves during the solar eclipse. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Eclipses, Volume 2, Book 18, Number 163)"

Confused religion filled with dummies and zombies. Pity.

Rilwayne001:

Truthman2012


Why didn't you point it out with your real moniker Instead of logging out and logging in your alternate moniker?

Oh! that must have been because of my comments before addressing the OP. I believe you know deep inside that is the bitter truth.




Even if your son read my explanation to your posts up there, he will be highly disappointed in this your response.

Now please tell me the major reason why you replied my comment with your alternate moniker.

Rilwayne001:

Truthman2012


Why didn't you point it out with your real moniker Instead of logging out and logging in your alternate moniker?

Oh! that must have been because of my comments before addressing the OP. I believe you know deep inside that is the bitter truth.




Even if your son read my explanation to your posts up there, he will be highly disappointed in this your response.

Now please tell me the major reason why you replied my comment with your alternate moniker.

EzioAuditore:



That's where you're wrong! You are so misinformed about Muslims and Islam it's frightening, this is the Islamic law about slaves. We must treat slaves with respect, and must also feed them what you eat and so on...


1- Treatment of Slaves in Islam.
2- A slave can request and earn his freedom from his Muslim Master.



Let us look at the following Sayings from our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him:

Abu Mas'ud al-Ansari reported: "When I was beating my servant, I heard a voice behind me (saying): Abu Mas'ud, bear in mind Allah has more dominance over you than you have upon him. I turned and (found him) to be Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). I said: Allah's Messenger, I set him free for the sake of Allah. Thereupon he said: Had you not done that, (the gates of) Hell would have opened for you, or the fire would have burnt you. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4088)"

Abu Mas'ud al-Badri reported: "I was beating my slave with a whip when I heard a voice behind me: Understand, Abu Masud; but I did not recognise the voice due to intense anger. He (Abu Mas'ud) reported: As he came near me (I found) that he was the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and he was saying: Bear in mind, Abu Mas'ud; bear in mind. Abu Mas'ud. He (Aba Maslad) said: threw the whip from my hand. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Bear in mind, Abu Mas'ud; verily Allah has more dominance upon you than you have upon your slave. I (then) said: I would never beat my servant in future. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4086)"

Abu Mas'ud reported that he had been beating his slave and he had been saying: "I seek refuge with Allah, but he continued beating him, whereupon he said: I seek refuge with Allah's Messenger, and he spared him. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: By Allah, God has more dominance over you than you have over him (the slave). He said that he set him free. This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Shu'ba with the same chain of transmitters, but made no mention of (these words) of his: I seek refuge with Allah, I seek refuge with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4089)"

If a Muslim beats his slave or slaps him on the face, then he must set him free:

"Zadhan reported that Ibn Umar called his slave and he found the marks (of beating) upon his back. He said to him: I have caused you pain. He said: No. But he (Ibn Umar) said: You are free. He then took hold of something from the earth and said: There is no reward for me even to the weight equal to it. I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him, then expiation for it is that he should set him free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4079)"

The above Sayings of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him are very straight forward. If a Muslim beats his slave, then the gates of hell will open for him. Muslims must not mistreat their slaves, because slaves in Islam are like brothers:

Narrated Al-Ma'rur: At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "When the slave of anyone amongst you prepares food for him and he serves him after having sat close to (and undergoing the hardship of) heat and smoke, he should make him (the slave) sit along with him and make him eat (along with him), and if the food seems to run short, then he should spare some portion for him (from his own share) - (another narrator) Dawud said:" i. e. a morsel or two". 4097. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4096)"

Narrated AbuDharr: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Feed those of your slaves who please you from what you eat and clothe them with what you clothe yourselves, but sell those who do not please you and do not punish Allah's creatures. (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab, Book 41, Number 5142)"





2- Slaves are not meant to be slaves, because eventually they will all be set free. A slave in Islam can request and be granted his freedom from his master:

First, it is important to know that thousands of years ago life was different than today. Today, people wouldn't accept slavery for any reason. The reason for this is because people are a lot more independent both financially, education wise, mentally, etc... But people back then were different. When a tribe or a group of people lose a major battle and their money is mostly, if not all, is taken as war booty by the other side, then people could and would accept being slaves for the following reasons:

1- Both financial and social security. When their country or tribe lost the war, they also lost most or all of their money as war booty. Being out of money and food, it becomes necessary for an individual to find the means for basic survival in life. Living as a slave would provide this.

2- Protection from hostile individuals. Even under the Islamic rule, you can still find hostile individuals who violate the Law and take matters into their own hands. An enemy family can be sometime in danger if they don't have a "protector".

3- Widows, Orphans, and the extremely poor of the enemy side need the financial and social protection from a Master. Back then, there were no governments with good social system that protects everyone. Slavery back then was that social system in special cases.

There are probably more points I can add, but I think these are sufficient enough. Let us now see the Islamic System toward Slaves:



Slaves can request and get their freedom from their Muslim Masters:

Yes slaves were taken from the blood-thirsty and hostile enemies, but they were also given the right to get their freedom when ever they want. The Noble Quran not only allows slaves to request their freedom from their Muslim masters, but also orders the Muslim masters to pay the slaves money to help them stand on their feet and to be able to face life with a good jump start.

Let us look at Noble Verse 24:33 "Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them)," In this Noble Verse, we see that if a slave requests his freedom from his Muslim master, then his master not only must help him earn his freedom if there is good in the Slave, but also pay him money so the slave can have a good start in his free life.

"The law of slavery in the legal sense of the term is now obsolete. While it had any meaning, Islam made the slave's lot as easy as possible. A slave, male or female, could ask for conditional manumission by a written deed fixing the amount required for manumission and allowing the slave meanwhile to earn money by lawful means and perhaps marry and bring up a family. Such a deed was not to be refused if the request was genuine and the slave had character. Not only that, but the master is directed to help with money out of his own resources in order to enable the slave to earn his or her own liberty." [2]

Again, the Prophet peace be upon him said:

Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

Narrated Asma: "No doubt the Prophet ordered people to manumit slaves during the solar eclipse. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Eclipses, Volume 2, Book 18, Number 163)"

I was expecting you to quote the quran instead you quote the hadith but if christians quote the hadith you will complained it a weak hadith

malvisguy212:
I was expecting you to quote the quran instead you quote the hadith but if christians quote the hadith you will complained it a weak hadith

The hadith and Quran are both acceptable sources of law in islam. There are laws that weren't in the Quran and so we refer to how the prophet dealt with such issues but only hadiths from acceptable sources because some hadiths are just inventions of certain people and if a person is identified as such his hadiths are discredited. The hadith and Quran go hand in hand, because the hadith is what teaches us how to handle day to day affairs. Anything else? Because if that's all, I have a few questions for you.

EzioAuditore:


The hadith and Quran are both acceptable sources of law in islam. There are laws that weren't in the Quran and so we refer to how the prophet dealt with such issues but only hadiths from acceptable sources because some hadiths are just inventions of certain people and if a person is identified as such his hadiths are discredited. The hadith and Quran go hand in hand, because the hadith is what teaches us how to handle day to day affairs. Anything else? Because if that's all, I have a few questions for you.

muslims claimed the quran is a revelation from Allah, but your post indicate without the hadith the quran cannot stand on his own.

EzioAuditore:


Muhammad and what army? Muhammad started as a humble man and the Meccans persecuted him and his followers, that's why he migrated to medina and even after then they decided to follow him there to exterminate him, that's when the battle of Badr was fought. You should read about it. He did not force Islam on the Meccans, he didn't force anyone to convert to his faith because he lived with Jews and Christians alike, even idol worshippers but under certain conditions.

Mohammed was not a true prophet. And I say that because, you see, the true prophet must receive a direct call from God, especially if he will be the founder of a religion. Mohammed is the founder of Islam. Moses received a direct call from God. Mohammed didn't receive a direct call from God. The story is very interesting. He was in the cave of Hira, outside of Mecca, and there, a spirit appeared to Mohammed. And then, the spirit squeezed Mohammed very tightly, that he thought that he was going to die.
And the spirit said to Mohammed,
"Read." Mohammed was illiterate, he
could not read. And he said, "I cannot
read." Then the spirit squeezed him
more tightly that he thought he was
going to die. And the spirit said to him,
"Read!" "I cannot read," Mohammed
answered. Then the spirit squeezed him
more tightly. He was afraid that he was
going to die. And he said, "Read!" He
said, "What shall I read?" The words
should be recited because he could not
read. How could you command someone who doesn't know how to read, read? You say to him, "Recite!" And then he said, "What shall I read?" And he said, "Read, in the name of thy Lord, who created man from the clot," etc, etc. So the Quran is not the invention of Mohammed. The Quran was given to him by that spirit who appeared to him at the cave of Hira.
The Muslims say, that the spirit was
Gabriel the angel. They say the angel
Gabriel is the spirit who appeared to
Mohammed at the cave of Hira , and he
squeezed him tightly.

But listen, when you go the Bible, Gabriel appeared to many people. Gabriel appeared to Daniel, and Daniel was scared. And he said, "Do not be afraid, Daniel." Then he appeared Zecharia, the father of John the Baptist. And he was afraid, and Gabriel said, "Do not be afraid, do not be afraid." Then he appeared to Mary. And Mary was troubled, and Gabriel said, "Do not be afraid." But that spirit who met
Mohammed and squeezed him, left him
very troubled. He was scared to death.
And when he went back to his wife
Khadigah, he said, "I am scared, I am
scared! I am trembling?" She said,
"What?" He said, "I don't know, I don't
know. I am afraid that I am possessed."
Then she took him to a bishop in Mecca,
by the name of Waraka Bin Nawfal, who
was her cousin, and she told him about
what happened. And this Waraka, the
bishop of the Amunit cult in Mecca said
to her, "Oh, be quiet. Be quiet.
Mohammed will be the prophet of the
Arabs." So the one who declared Mohammed a prophet was the bishop of Mecca. And that is the historical fact. So the Quran is not the invention of Mohammed. It was dictated to him by that spirit. And I want to tell you something, it's not a miracle, because any book would not be a miracle. Any book, you know, Homer wrote the Iliad, and Odyssey, it's not a miracle. Shakespeare wrote many books, it's not a miracle. Plato wrote many books, not a miracle. The books cannot be a miracle because if I cannot understand the language, I cannot confirm if it's a miracle or not. The miracle is to raise somebody, to heal somebody, to give the sight to somebody, these are miracles! But to tell me that a book is a miracle, I don't buy that!

.

@ malvisguy212

Thanks for your expositions. God bless you richly.

A book is not a miracle. Revelations are not miracles. A miracle is the healing power of God. It is God's power to liberate man from physical or spiritual trouble, like sickness, death, accidents etc. It is not demonic revelations that Muhammad received.

People who asked Muhammad for miracles in his time knew he received revelations and yet asked him for miracles. They knew revelation is not miracle and it was expected of a mighty prophet Muhammad claimed to be to have power for miracles. Alas, he had none.

malvisguy212:
muslims claimed the quran is a revelation from Allah, but your post indicate without the hadith the quran cannot stand on his own.

Ahhh! You blind blind boy! The bible contains the life of Jesus, the Quran contains only the words of God together with the Hadith they form the Islamic source of law. You Christians on the other hand decided to insert the life of Jesus and the "words of God" into the same book, you don't even know what's true and what's not, some of these "compilers" of Jesus' life had never seen him! It's a friggin joke! if we had wanted to, we would have done the same, but that's not how it works, you can't put the life of the prophet and the words of God together, the words of God are pure but when it comes to compiling other stories, there might be glitches, I'm sorry we Muslims don't look for shortcuts like you guys do.

truthman2012:
@ malvisguy212

Thanks for your expositions. God bless you richly.

A book is not a miracle. Revelations are not miracles. A miracle is the healing power of God. It is God's power to liberate man from physical or spiritual trouble, like sickness, death, accidents etc. It is not demonic revelations that Muhammad received.

People who asked Muhammad for miracles in his time knew he received revelations and yet asked him for miracles. They knew revelation is not miracle and it was expected of a mighty prophet Muhammad claimed to be to have power for miracles. Alas, he had none.

How my mouth waters when I see people like you lying about the true religion. Ignorance is a disease indeed. Who to you Muhammad had no miracles? The fact that a man who couldn't read or write could bring forth something as beautiful as the Quran is already enough of a Miracle, and here are other miracles of the prophet.
Just because we don't boast about them every day like you ankle biters do doesn't mean it didn't happen, to say it happened but you don't believe in them is different but to say they never happened at all? That's toxic.


Christians often ask what miracles the prophet Muhammad performed; many of them even make the claim that the Quran and the hadiths record no miracles done by the prophet. However so, it seems that I am reading a different Quran and hadith then, because you would have to be blind, or a big liar to claim that there are no recorded miracles of the prophet found in Islamic sources.

I wont label these Christians who make this claim as liars, no, after all most of these Christians do not do the research themselves, rather it’s their own Christian scholars who deceive them with their lies against Islam, such as Answering-Islam, prophet of doom, faith freedom etc. It is these sites and Christian scholars out there who make some of the biggest lies against Islam, deceiving their Christian people into having wrong ideas about Islam, so when you have normal Christians coming up to you with arguments, you must know that this person is simply arguing from what he saw and heard from Christian polemic against Islam.

For instance, most of you are most likely familiar with Christians always coming up with quotes from Tabari, Ibn Ishaq, and some other works. They often quote these works and think they are making big arguments, yet they always seem to quote specific quotes from these books, and when you ask for a context, they can never provide it, the reason being is because they are ALL quoting from that goon Craig Winn’s book.

So this argument put forth by Christians, that the prophet Muhammad performed no miracles according to Islamic sources is another example of Christians getting bad information from Christian apologists.

For this article, I shall show some miracles the prophet Muhammad performed, ending this sad lie that there are no miracles recorded in Islamic sources. Now whether Christians will agree with the sources I quote is IRRELEVENT, I am not asking any Christian to believe in these miracles, what I am doing is showing you that there are miracles recorded in Islamic sources, so therefore you should stop saying there aren’t any, and you should stop asking Muslims to show you miracles performed by the prophet Muhammad with the pre-conceived notion that he did none. As the saying goes, you cant have your cake and eat it, you cant claim the prophet performed no miracles, and then when I show you the miracles you say ‘oh well those sources are forged and lies’. You can’t have it both ways, you say the prophet Muhammad performed no miracles according to Islam, I shall show you that this claim is FALSE.

Now if a Christian said yes there are miracles recorded in Islamic sources, but I don’t believe them, then that’s a different case, and is a fair argument. But in this article I am addressing the Christians who make the claim that the Islamic sources contain NO miracles of the prophet Muhammad, often asking Muslims to show them a miracle performed by the prophet.

With all that said, we can now show some of the miracles the prophet Muhammad performed:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 13, Number 55:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Once in the lifetime of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) the people were afflicted with drought (famine). While the Prophet was delivering the Khutba on a Friday, a Bedouin stood up and said, "O, Allah's Apostle! Our possessions are being destroyed and the children are hungry; Please invoke Allah (for rain)". So the Prophet raised his hands. At that time there was not a trace of cloud in the sky. By Him in Whose Hands my soul is as soon as he lowered his hands, clouds gathered like mountains, and before he got down from the pulpit, I saw the rain falling on the beard of the Prophet. It rained that day, the next day, the third day, the fourth day till the next Friday. The same Bedouin or another man stood up and said, "O Allah's Apostle! The houses have collapsed, our possessions and livestock have been drowned; Please invoke Allah (to protect us)". So the Prophet I raised both his hands and said, "O Allah! Round about us and not on us". So, in whatever direction he pointed with his hands, the clouds dispersed and cleared away, and Medina's (sky) became clear as a hole in between the clouds. The valley of Qanat remained flooded, for one month, none came from outside but talked about the abundant rain.



From ‘Ibn Kathirs The Life of the Prophet Muhammad, Al-sira Al-Nabawiyya, volume 2’ :


HOW THE PROPHET (SAAS) REPLACED QATADA’S EYE:

Al-Bayhaqi stated, in the Dalail (The Signs), “Abu Sad al-Malini informed us quoting Abu Ahmed b. Adi, quoting Abu Yala, quoting Yahya al-Himmant, quoting Abd al-Aziz b. Sulayman b. al-Ghasil, from Asim b. Umar b. Qatada, from his father, from his grandfather Qatada b. al-Numan, that his eye was wounded at Badr and that its pupil came down on his cheekbone. They were about to slice it off, but asked the Messenger of God (SAAS) who said they should not do this. He then said a prayer for him, covering his cheek with his palm. And later you could not tell which of his eyes had been struck!”

According to one account, this became the better eye.

An account came down to us from the Commander of the Believers, Umar b. Abd al- Aziz that when he was told this account by Asim b. Umar b. Qatada, he also recited:

“I am the son of him on whose cheek his eye descended,
which was replaced so well by the hand of the Chosen-One.”

Upon hearing this, Umar b. Abd al-Aziz, God bless him, quoted very appropriately the verse of Umayya b. Abd al-Salt of Ibn Dhu Yazin,

“These fine qualities are not like two bowls with milk
merely whitening the water that soon becomes urine.” (Pg 298)



Section: Concerning the Splitting of the Moon in the time of the Prophet (SAAS)


God did provide the Messenger of God (SAAS) with a sign to prove the veracity of the guidance and religion of truth he brought, and that was at the time of his pointing (to the moon).

God Almighty spoke the following in his noble book, “The hour has drawn near and the moon has split asunder. And if they see a sign they turn away, saying, ‘Just more trickery!’ They call it deceit and follow their fancies, while all things are pre-determined.” (surat al-Qamar, LIV, v.1-3)

Muslims are agreed that this did occur in the time of the Messenger of God (SAAS), traditions with complete lines of transmissions, through numerous paths, provide decisive proof for those who examine it and comprehend it.

…….That is related from Anas b. Malik, Jubayr b. Mutim, Hudhayfa, Abd Allah b. Abbas, Abd Allah b. Umar, and Abd Allah b. Masud, God be pleased with all.

Regarding the hadith of Anas, Imam Ahmad stated, “Abd al-Raziq related to us that Mamar related to him, from Qatada, from Anas b. Malik, who said, ‘ The people of Mecca asked the prophet (SAAS) for a sign, And so the moon over Mecca was split twice. And he spoke the words, “ The house has drawn near and the moon has split asunder”” (surat al-Qamar, LIV, v-1)

And Muslim related this, from Muhammad b. Rafi from from Abd al-Razzaq.

This is one of the texts known as the mursalat al-sahaba. And it is plain that he received it from a large mass of the Companions, or from the Prophet (SAAS), or from everyone.

Both al-Bukhari and Muslim related this hadith on a path through Shayban. In his line of transmission al-Bukhari added Said b. Abu Urba. Muslim added Shuba to his. All three (sic) of them drew from Qatada, from Anas. The tradition states that the people of Mecca asked the Messenger of God (SAAS) to show them a sign, He showed them the moon in two parts, so that they could see Mt. Hira between them both.

……. The Hafiz Abu Nuaym stated, “Sulayman b. Ahmad related to us, quoting Bakr b. Suhayl, quoting Abd al-Ghani b. Said, quoting Musa b. Abd al-Rahman, from Ibn Jurayj, from Ata, from Ibn Abbas- also, it came from Muqatil, from al- Dahhak, from Ibn Abbas- with reference to God’s words, ‘The hour has drawn near and the moon has been split asunder’, as follows, ‘The polytheists gathered around the Messenger of God (SAAS); they included al-Walid b. al-Mughira, Abu Jahl b. Hisham, al-As b. Wail, al-As b. Hisham, al-Aswad b. Abd Yaghuth, al-Aswad b. Muttalib b. Asad b. Abd al-Uzza, Zama b. al-Aswad and al-Nadr b. al-Harith, along with many other such men.

“They said to the Prophet (SAAS), “If you are telling the truth, then split the moon for us into two parts, one half over Mt. Abu Qubays, the other over Mt. Quayquan. The Prophet (SAAS) asked them, “If I did so, would you believe?” “Yes, we would,” they replied. It was a night of full moon, and so he asked God the Almighty and Glorious to grant him what they requested. That evening the moon did have one half removed and placed over Mt. Abu Abu Qubays, the other being above Mt. Quayquan, while the Messenger of God (SAAS) called out, “O Abu Salama b. Abd al-Asad, and al-Aqram b. al-Aqram, be a witness (to this event).”

…..The Hafiz Abu al-Qasim al- Tabarni said, “Ahmad b. al-Amr al-Razzaz related to us, quoting Muhammad b. Yahya al-Qital, quoting Muhammad b. Bakr quoting Ibn Jurayj quoting Amr b. Dinar, from Ikrima, from Ibn Abbas, who said, ‘ In the time of the Messenger of God (SAAS), the moon was eclipsed and people said, “The moon is bewitched!” And so the words were revealed, “The hour has drawn near and the moon has split asunder. And if they see a sign they turn away saying, “Just more trickery!”’”(surat al-Qamar, LIV, v. 1-3).

This has a fine chain of authorities; it states that the moon was eclipsed that night; perhaps its splitting occurred on the night of its eclipse and this is why what happened to it was hidden from most of the earths inhabitants. However, this was in fact witnessed in parts of the world. It is said that in some parts of India that became a point dating, and that a building was constructed that night which was dated by the night the moon was split. (Pg 76-79)

EzioAuditore:



Ahhh! You blind blind boy! The bible contains the life of Jesus, the Quran contains only the words of God together they form the Islamic source of law. You Christians on the other hand decided to insert the life of Jesus and the "words of God" into the same book, you don't even know what's true and what's not, some of these "compilers" of Jesus' life had never seen him! It's a friggin joke! if we had wanted to, we would have done the same, but that's not how it works, you can't put the life of the prophet and the words of God together, the words of God are pure but when it comes to compiling other stories, there might be glitches, I'm sorry we Muslims don't look for shortcuts like you guys do.

your post is full of error, the bible is not about Jesus, Jesus did not write any book, he preach and the disciples and witnesses wrote it down, but muslims claimed the quran is a revelation from Allah, how can you write a story which everybody know very well and you called that a revelation? Revealed what we already knew ? Read the story of Isaac and ishmael from the bible and quran and judge which is more understanding.

EzioAuditore you copied from the hadith to proved to us that muhammed performed a miracle? Sahih bukari and muhammed, who is lying here? Muhammed say he could not performed miracle sahih bukari say he did.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages
show that whenever Muhammad was
asked by his contemporaries to perform
a single miracle, he either remained
silent or said that he could not do so
because he was no more than just an
ordinary human being. The most explicit of these passages is in Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you
unless you cause a spring to gush out
of the ground. “Or unless you own a
garden of date palms and grapes,
with rivers running through it. “Or
unless you cause masses from the
sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or
unless you bring GOD and the angels
before our eyes. “Or unless you own
a luxurious mansion, or unless you
climb into the sky. Even if you do
climb, we will not believe unless you
bring a book that we can read.” Say,
“Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGERS?”(Khalifa)

truthman2012:
@ malvisguy212

Thanks for your expositions. God bless you richly.

A book is not a miracle. Revelations are not miracles. A miracle is the healing power of God. It is God's power to liberate man from physical or spiritual trouble, like sickness, death, accidents etc. It is not demonic revelations that Muhammad received.

People who asked Muhammad for miracles in his time knew he received revelations and yet asked him for miracles. They knew revelation is not miracle and it was expected of a mighty prophet Muhammad claimed to be to have power for miracles. Alas, he had none.

God bless you. Hope your day went well?