sukkot:
very strong precepts my kind Sir. couldnt have selected more apt precepts myself

sukkot:
i hope so my bros. there is an asteroid today that is coming very close to earth. asteroid is a stone aka a rock. and in the bible stones means to kick someones a55 and you know israel will be the battle-axe of Yah as confirmed by yeremiah 51 verse 20. so maybe that asteroid represents the saints coming and being redeemed today and coming to be the battle axe to put judgement on esau. oh a man can hope

Scholar8200:
How do you explain Revelations 7:9-10?

sukkot:
the whole world did not start with families. a whole bunch of people were created at once from the sand of the sea. keep in mind the history of the bible only dates back to 6000 years so the bible is not the story of the creation of mankind. it is the story of the creation of mankind made in the image of God meaning it is the story of when Gods laws were introduced to the world. there are documented histories of empires that date back 20,000 years ago before the bible. so the whole world did not start 6000 years ago with a guy named adam and a woman named eve and then further down a guy named abraham. these are allegories.

sukkot:
ok lets see

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

the great multitude is the second fruit of harvest into the kingdom of heaven from all the heathen nations. however the first fruit is Jesus christ. in fact i think this verse will kill all arguments

HAAAAAAAAAA I FOUND THE VERSE. THE VERSE TO END ALL THIS ARGUMENT HAHAHAHA

1 CORINTHIANS 15 VERSE 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. <<<< CHRIST THE FIRSTFRUITS ? TELLING YOU WHAT ? THERE ARE MANY CHRISTS

CASE CLOSED. JURORS DISMISSED

CASE CLOSED COMPLETELY. LET US ALL GO HOME

MrPresident1:


Among the Yorubas, the appearance of a comet (or I guess an asteroid too) is a bad sign, an omen of bad.

Isaiah 1:27
Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

Perhaps that is the asteroid of judgment

MrPresident1:


CASE CLOSED COMPLETELY. LET US ALL GO HOME

sukkot:
LOL no boss we are the judgement. we are the asteroid. its a good thing this asteroid coming. usually the coming of the saints happens when signs like asteroids are plenty. we are the judgement who will rule the nations with a rod of iron and break them to pieces like the potters clay. lord willing i am in that number

sukkot:
[b]i never said the prophets of old did not exist. however these prophets of old are all called Jesus Christ. . i still dont think you are understanding where i am coming from. if i call every yoruba man JESUS CHRIST. if 30 of them wrote the bible. even though JESUS CHRIST did not exist as a person, the 30 men under the blanket name jesus christ wrote the bible. I AM NOT TELLING YOU THAT THESE MEN DID NOT EXIST. WHAT I AM TELLING YOU IS THAT THE NAMES IN THE BIBLE ARE NAMES OF GROUPS OF PEOPLE AND NOT SINGLE HUMAN BEINGS. there is no human being named jesus christ. however there was a group of people called jesus christ. the jesus christ is a title. THERE IS NO HUMAN BEING CALLED CEO. HOWEVER THERE ARE MANY MEN UNDER THE UMBRELLA CEO. CEO IS NOT THEIR NAME. CEO IS THEIR TITLE. THEY EXIST. THEY ARE ALIVE. BUT THERE INDIVIDUAL NAMES IS NOT CEO. MAYBE ONE IS CALLED TAOFIK. MAYBE THE OTHER IS KAYODE MAYBE ONE IS EMEKA. THEY EXIST. BUT THEY ARE NOT CALLED CEO. CEO IS THEIR TITLE. SAME WITH JESUS CHRIST OR ABRAHAM OR NOAH ETC ETC. THESE ARE TITLES. NOT SINGLE MEN. IF YOU UNDERSTAND HEBREW YOU WILL BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THE TITLES ARE IN ENGLISH[/b]

sukkot:
ok lets see

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

the great multitude is the second fruit of harvest into the kingdom of heaven from all the heathen nations. however the first fruit is Jesus christ. in fact i think this verse will kill all arguments

HAAAAAAAAAA I FOUND THE VERSE. THE VERSE TO END ALL THIS ARGUMENT HAHAHAHA

1 CORINTHIANS 15 VERSE 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. <<<< CHRIST THE FIRSTFRUITS ? TELLING YOU WHAT ? THERE ARE MANY CHRISTS

CASE CLOSED. JURORS DISMISSED

Scholar8200:
Can you with verifiable historical references prove the bolded? And pls you said they were empires of beings not man so your historical proof should incorporate this too.

malvisguy212:
alright sukkot and Mrpresedent1 I understand now,but still there are some loop holes in your explanation, for example you say the prophet are all called Jesus christ, christ mean anointing,prophet don't anoint prophet, or did you ever read a prophet anoint a prophet? If you say the kings are Jesus christ, I may agree with you, but the prophet? I don't think so.

The man Jesus is the kings of kings and it is God himself that anoint Him, isaiah 61:1 say:

The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on
me, because the LORD has ANOINTED me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the
brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for
the captives and release from darkness
for the prisoners,

And in Luke4:18 it say;
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because
he has ANOINTED me to proclaim good
news to the poor. He has sent me to
proclaim freedom for the prisoners and
recovery of sight for the blind, to set the
oppressed free,

So it was God himself that anoint Jesus as the kings of kings and any other kings were anointed by prophet whom God chose.

Scholar8200:
Not so fast your honour! So who spoke in Revelations 22:16? The word firstfruits is generally expressed in the plural. And the verse you quoted spoke of they that are Christ's. Not many other 'Christs'. Also see Revelations 1:1-8.

sukkot:
i should prove to you how all humans were drawn out of the sea ? well first off the mineral composition of the sea is exactly like that of humans which is why sea salt is used as a cure for almost all ailments

genesis 1 verse 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life,

malvisguy212:
alright sukkot and Mrpresedent1 I understand now,but still there are some loop holes in your explanation, for example you say the prophet are all called Jesus christ, christ mean anointing,prophet don't anoint prophet, or did you ever read a prophet anoint a prophet? If you say the kings are Jesus christ, I may agree with you, but the prophet? I don't think so.

The man Jesus is the kings of kings and it is God himself that anoint Him, isaiah 61:1 say:

The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on
me, because the LORD has ANOINTED me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the
brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for
the captives and release from darkness
for the prisoners,

And in Luke4:18 it say;
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because
he has ANOINTED me to proclaim good
news to the poor. He has sent me to
proclaim freedom for the prisoners and
recovery of sight for the blind, to set the
oppressed free,

So it was God himself that anoint Jesus as the kings of kings and any other kings were anointed by prophet whom God chose.

MrPresident1:


Evolution is scientific Sire. The Hands of the Most High God guided evolution, until God revealed Himself to man 6 thousand years ago. We all came from the sea, until He created us in His Own Image. Until He first showed us His laws

Scholar8200:
Not so fast your honour! So who spoke in Revelations 22:16? The word firstfruits is generally expressed in the plural. And the verse you quoted spoke of they that are Christ's. Not many other 'Christs'. Also see Revelations 1:1-8.

sukkot:
ok lets see

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

the great multitude is the second fruit of harvest into the kingdom of heaven from all the heathen nations. however the first fruit is Jesus christ. in fact i think this verse will kill all arguments

HAAAAAAAAAA I FOUND THE VERSE. THE VERSE TO END ALL THIS ARGUMENT HAHAHAHA

1 CORINTHIANS 15 VERSE 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. <<<< CHRIST THE FIRSTFRUITS ? TELLING YOU WHAT ? THERE ARE MANY CHRISTS

CASE CLOSED. JURORS DISMISSED

MrPresident1:


An asteroid to sign off Nisan, the month of release, in a shemitah year of release.

It is good to have faith ad hope...sighs

sukkot:
well bros, it was God who anointed them all. the spirit of God is like a raging hurricane, it anoints those who the LORD has chosen to anoint. man cannot anoint another man. however the anointed men can teach the gentiles the ways of God

sukkot:
haha, hey it is all sounding very good as you have presented the case my kind Sir. an asteroid to sign off nisan, the month of release, in a shemittah year of release. it sounds very hopeful. we are extremely close, off that i am extremely certain

MrPresident1:


If anyone understands the Bible as we do , he will be one of these in ancient Israel
Isaiah 3:2-3
2 The mighty man, and the man of war, the judge, and the prophet, and the prudent, and the ancient,
3 The captain of fifty, and the honourable man, and the counsellor, and the cunning artificer, and the eloquent orator.

malvisguy212:
I wanted to create a thread about this but I decided not to, let me ask you a question, I want to know your opinion on this.

My friend rilwayn001 say adam was created in heaven, how is this possible? Doesent this mean human when we die, we can go to heaven with our physical body? I have a strong feeling there is no gravity in heaven and the law that surround this universe is different from heaven.

MrPresident1:


Jesus Christ is MEN endowed with different kinds of celestial powers that enable them to function as Orators, Scientists, Mighty men, Men of war etc.

THEY ARE THE KINGS OF ISREAL, her prudent men, her crème de la crème.

Isaiah 3:2-3
2 The mighty man, and the man of war, the judge, and the prophet, and the prudent, and the ancient,
3 The captain of fifty, and the honourable man, and the counsellor, and the cunning artificer, and the eloquent orator

Rilwayne001:
you finally hold up to you marriage union brouhaha. .
Mat 1:18 This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife , because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. But he had no UNION with her until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus. <<< When did Joseph know Mary as his wife? It was not until she had given birth to Jesus

Luk 1:27 to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary.

You can as well throw this^^ in a trash and hang up to what suits your claim, but it doesn't the fact they weren't married before mary conceived jesus and that even if they were married, it doesn't mean that Joseph was the father of Jesus, and that Jesus is a direct descendant of Joseph.
Sir, you are the one trying to re-write history here after when you couldnt continue in your arguement that since Solomon went against the god of isreal, then the promise couldnt have come through him and that Nathan is also a son of David and that the promise might have come through Nathan, and when you are countered severally with scritupural backings and you couldn't prove anything about Nathan, you had to come back to shift the poll and tell us that since joseph and mary are married (when actually they were pledged to be married and not that they were married) then Jesus's genealogy can be trace to joseph..*wtf**.

Well, I rest my hand here...Good chatting with you though

Rilwayne001:




You should give us this wine you drink....biko

sukkot:
adam spirit was created in heaven. remember we have two components to our being. we are body and spirit. we are spiritual beings having a physical existence but our essence and who we truly are is our spirit. our spirit contains all our energy force and consciousness and intelligence. the flesh is just a piece of meat. so back to your question, the spirit of 'adam' was created in heaven but the flesh was created on earth. and when ' adam ' vacates his flesh and leaves his flesh to become dust to dust on earth, his spirit will return to the heavens and wait for the next body on earth that he will come through again. its called reincarnation. we return back to earth periodically

MrPresident1:


Something caught my attention with regards to Nebuchanezzar. I did a thread that showed the relationship between Nebu's dream, and Israel's devolution. When Nebu was restored, the word used is ' at the end of the days' not at the end of 7 years.

Nisan marks the end of an era, an end of days so to speak

Daniel 4:34
34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:

MrPresident1:


Just be a good boy Rili. God Himself will enlighten you.

Stop yabbing people unnecessarily, like I see you do all over the place

malvisguy212:
this is the explanation I can accepts,the big letters in your post, that my points, but to called the prophet Jesus christ, I will not accepts it.

malvisguy212:
God spirit was upon Him, Jesus, Samuel anoint David and even saul David and saul were kings but Samuel was a prophet, it was God himself that told Samuel to anoint them.

sukkot:
i should prove to you how all humans were drawn out of the sea ? well first off the mineral composition of the sea is exactly like that of humans which is why sea salt is used as a cure for almost all ailments

genesis 1 verse 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life,