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Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 2:32pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
plaetton: Ok so now you've made the correction you haven't discredited them! |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by simplex2: 2:34pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
plaetton: kay1one2: 3 Likes |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by plaetton: 2:36pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2:Why would I need to discredit them. Infact, the dead see scrolls has been a great source of consternation for Christendom ever since they were discovered. There still a very significant parts of the scrolls not made available to public, simply because they contradict much of what is written and believed in the canonical bible. |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by An2elect2(f): 2:45pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
cupid1: mcheeew. nonsense. at embolden. You believe that God exists and you still said that. I see you are trying to play safe. Atheism is the in thing now huh. And playing the sycophant will earn you "good boy" in their book what do you call a man who speaks for fools pls be wise. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 2:49pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
plaetton: Christianity is experienced not just a religion. Evolution can offer nothing but a hopeless purposeless end. Knock yourself out! |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by plaetton: 3:21pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: Lol. Look, Mr. Jamb score, the theory of evolution, which I sure you have never understood , even in your jamb lessons, IS NOT A RELIGION, neither is it a philosophy. Gosh! Where are they milling these DUMBOs? 3 Likes |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 3:28pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
plaetton: From your ancestral home. You haven't countered anything from the post. Mr. I'm not proud of my educational background! |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Nobody: 4:12pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
An2elect2:when u spoke about the bolded words i thought you were going to offer unbiblical proof, instead all i get is insults, yeah that's the average christian for you. I don't have time for E-battles as i see that's what you were aiming to start. I'm more of a physical person, not excessive talking 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by johnydon22(m): 6:19pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Misogynist2014: I only asked you to define science for me? what is big bang and what is evolution..? |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by johnydon22(m): 6:42pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
I always say "I do not know" when faced with the question of how life began, which i know is a very simple answer owing to the fact that its a subject that is still under heavy studies. But sometimes when you see a naive misguided and poor analogy as this, you are compelled to take on the work of introducing young naive minds to what the studies really says. kay1one2:First evolution is a scientific theory and is not something to be adhered to or believed. Just like you dont adhere to the meaning of diffusion as defined by science, because study is not a belief system, bear that in mind. Now let me help and define what a scientific theory means. Theory (science) A coherent statement or set of ideas that explains observed facts or phenomena, or which sets out the laws and principles of something known or observed; a hypothesis confirmed by observation, experiment etc. I want you to pay real attention to the words Observed facts and confirmed by observation and experiments. This goes a long way to show that theories are not assumptions or wishful thinkings but a way of explaining observed facts and it improves with more studies. kay1one2:First evolution does not explain how life began. (Thats a study under abiogensis, you may do well to learn more about it) Evolution simply means change in heritable traits of biological populations over successive generations. and proposes that All life on Earth originated through common descent from a last universal ancestor that lived approximately 3.5–3.8 billion years ago. . So you need to shoot the person that gave you that idea that evolution deals with crawling of life from a single celled organism. Science 101 kay1one2:If you had ever read anything about evolution, you would have known that evolution is a slow process and takes millions of years. Meanwhile in todays world fishes have been observed to develop limbs as an adaptive feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dMRt4NQb1Q kay1one2:This line shows you have never opened a book on evolution before, all you take is what you hear from other incredibly ignorant folks and this is the result. So homo erectus is the first evolutionary trend of man you know? still clinging to our primary school social studies ..lol I have explained what evolution is, so no need saying more on that. Meanwhile the human evolutionary trend branched off from one common ancestor as other primates. And these are supported by archeological evidences. 1) Before 5 mya: In Africa, the ancestral lineage of humans and the chimpanzee lineage split. 2) Before 4 mya: The hominid Australopithecus anamensis walked around what is now Kenya on its hind legs. 3) >3 mya: Australopithecus afarensis (fossile evidence of this hominid “Lucy”) lived in Africa. And more hominids follows; australopithecus africanus, australopithecus robustus etc . 4) 2.5 mya: Some hominids made tools by chipping stones to form a cutting edge. There were perhaps four or more species of hominid living in Africa. 5) 2 mya: The first members of the Homo clade, with their relatively large brains, lived in Africa. 6) 1.5 mya: Hand axes were used. Also, hominids had spread out of Africa and into much of Asia and Europe. These hominids included the ancestors of Neanderthals ( Homo neanderthalensis) in Europe and Homo erectus in Asia. 7) 100,000 years ago: Human brains reached more or less the current range of sizes. Early Homo sapiens lived in Africa. At the same time, Homo neanderthalensis and Homo erectus lived in other parts of the Old World. : Human cultures produced cave paintings and body adornment, and constructed elaborate burials. Also, some groups of modern humans extended their range beyond Africa. 9) Other Homo species had gone extinct, leaving only modern humans, Homo sapiens , spread throughout the Old World... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution Explanation above is a very basic one so as not to confuse naive minds like yours with the long list and names in human evolutionary trend of which little known to you homo erectus was a recent humanoid. kay1one2:Where can i start treating such deceptive self induced ignorance. . Boy the difference between Human gene and chimps is less than 2% http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolutionary_genetics . . . These two primates share the same ancestory. Tigers, lions and ordinary home cats have only 5% gene difference and that puts them all in the same family falidae. and i dont see you disputing that they are related but you dispute that of humans and other primates because it contradicts your mythological beliefs. . this is science boy.. deal with it. kay1one2:I wonder what you mean by beautifully arranged. if you mean complex, then how then do you believe a more complex idea as god can just pop out on it's own without a creator. following your argument another more complex creator should be responsible for your god then and so it goes on and on. That you dont know how things came to be doesnt mean you should bring up something archaic and primitive as a god did it. because this kills your intellectual curiosity and retards your ability to learn how it really happened thereby keeping you in a state of self induced ignorance. Bringing up something like a god did it doesnt answer this question, it only postpones it because you have to assume your god did not need a beginning thereby failing in ur own argument. kay1one2:And after all this naive misrepresent and misguided points you brought up without even reading about evolution, this is were it ends? . . . lmao.. A god that creates because he wants love and worship is Narcissistic and this is a character disorder. How would a perfect being demand love and worship. . I beg you, please read about evolution before bringing up childish arguments up in nairaland that only makes someone close face in shame. . If these stuff you brought out above is your refutation of evolution, please i recommend you to pick up a book on evolution, at least read it first so that you wouldn't open another thread on nairaland and give us another show of blatant ignorance. And oh before i forget, the only way to disprove atheism is to prove ur god 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Nobody: 8:07pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: 1. I wonder were you read that a cell can not evolve. A little internet search from you would have enlightened you. A unicellular organism exhibits all the basic characteristics of living things. So they can EVOLVE like other living things. Read: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cells And http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicellular_organism 2. Again another hasty conclusion! Recent time exploration gives evidence of evolution. An exploration to Galapagos island, as you would see in that video below, shows prove. These Secluded islands had always been places where evolution can be observed, because they are far from human's destructive influences. Even among us there are signs of evolution -- view that second link! Watch and read : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYBRbCLI4zU http://www.cracked.com/article_19213_7-animals-that-are-evolving-right-before-our-eyes.html 3. Why would we find fossils? Have you ever wondered how fossil fuels came about? Oh, sorry! It was god that made it, right? I wouldn't be surprised if archaeologists don't find these fossils. Yet, some fossils might still be found, like Lucy, if it had not turned into fuel. These things don't have sim card, you know, so it takes luck to find them. 4. This is actually wrong. Our genes are actually > 98% similar to theirs. In fact, we know have only one gene that differentiate us from them. Read my post here: https://www.nairaland.com/2082117/science-pure-scam-see-photo#32886978 5. That is an opinion. To you who has only seen life on earth, it would be the best ever, so you assertion would be an opinion. Imagine a nigerian who has never had any contact with any outside country, making a comment about the power supply in the country. Wouldn't he say it is the best there's? Life on earth has its many flaws and you just need to look at it with introspection. As for the paint, the same point could also be used to question god's omnipotence. |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 8:54pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
johnydon22: No.3 brings up the point of the "missing link". No fossil has been found linking that "wonder cell" to the creation of birds. All your other homo whatever can barely be accomodated for except that. Deep sea fish have been noted to loose eyes they don't use due to atrophy not generate new organs. Modern day changes are rarely creative. The gene difference between man and apes have grown wider than 5% after the completion of the human genome project; a mapping of the entire human genome. That percentage is big enough to cancel out any form of relationship. Enjoy your theory of being an absolute mistake! |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 8:57pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
theAtheist101: Sure they can. But even plant and animal cells have major differences that make it impossible to give rise to a common lineage. E.g plant cells have structures that aid photosynthesis something not available in animal cells! |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 9:00pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
johnydon22: And that will help you find your origins? |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Nobody: 9:13pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: Read the full post. |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 9:19pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
theAtheist101: Can we get to the part you make your point finally known?! |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by johnydon22(m): 9:21pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: A very simple question... What is science? What is evolution? what is big bang? Let us even see if you have the tiniest incline of what you are yapping about? Please help me define them |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Nobody: 9:22pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
The missing link can be found in the "bible" itself but only if u can "understand" "it", now first of all "it" did become "intentionally" installed by the "reigning" authority of the time "it" first appeared and "set" in as "the law" now the reason as to why a "theory" of this nature would and was considered is because "it" holds a "code" only available to a "few" who are able to "understand" the "concept" of the "story" and of the "intention" of the story , for one wouldn't institute some "thing" with out a cause, for let me just mention a "profit" must be made of some sort of "gain" for the "ones" who "installed" "it" , now with that said and with out a doubt "it" is the number "one" theory that "literally" controls the world , of cause for the "code" is in "practice" but yet again mostly most don't know the "code" but of cause "they" or "them" from the generations of the "authority" that still hold the "authority" do know the "code" of "its" "intention" for all "techology" of the day comes from "its" practice of the "code" word where all things have and will be possible via the "practice" of this "in coded" message that prevails from the theory if u are able to pick it up , so there for "one" must no be "mistaken" and throu this "theory" away for then u lose the "undersanding" on who "god" is but also who he "isn't" for he is "commonly" compared to a "human" figure as "written" but with more insight and understanding u "might" find that he isn't and "niether" the form as "commonly" displayed but he is the "father" not in "human" form and he is not "satan" either but some may prefer this label , now at the "end" of the "theory" it describes how the "chosen" will see and be with the "father" and see his face , but there are "two" sides to the "story" as to "who" will see his "face" and be with "him" , there are those who "know" the "code" word and do "it" and then there's those of the "children of Israel" now it can go either way on who "sees" him , now the "code" is spoken by "jesus" in his "parables of "mine" and "the NEW jerusalem is a result of his "parables of "mine" and if u are of "understanding" then u "know" who "god" is for weather u "understand" or not they still "mine" for ever for "he" has those of "mine" and "I" believe they will see the "father" for they have forsaken "him" and did not put ear to hear the parables of "mine" the "code". |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 9:22pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
johnydon22: It won't take me much to do that. But since they are your gods I'll let you do the honours! |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Nobody: 9:26pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: It is there for you to read! What else do you want to know? |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Nobody: 9:28pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: The belief in god who created the planet is a worse psychotic problem. You claim you are God -fear simply because someone wrote some threatening/violent stories about an unknown entity. |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by kay1one2(m): 9:30pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
ifeness: What's scary about a God who "so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life? !" |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by johnydon22(m): 9:37pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: ..hahahahahahahahaha they are my gods? is this the newest way of dodging answers? since when did studies become deities... Oh am so sorry...... But what type of education do we have in this country for crying out loud This is the result of an epileptic educational system, you see a dude disagreeing with evolution that he have not even read or know anything about Cant even define what you are yapping about!!! ..please boy, are you to tell me you can't define them? Ok just a simple google search, i will like you to google search it and relay me your findings please .. |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by johnydon22(m): 9:39pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: And if you don't?? 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Nobody: 9:55pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: That is the most scary part. The need for a sacrifices,human sacrifice to worsen it . 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by An2elect2(f): 9:57pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
cupid1: be wise first, physical man |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Nobody: 10:48pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: What do you mean by "wonder cell"? |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Misogynist2014(m): 11:00pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
ifeness:Imagine after raping a lady (just ensample), you apologize, and she forgives you, will you be happy with yourself? But after then, she visits you everyday and even dies donating her kidney, that her rapist may live. What great love is that! Will you ever think she hasn't forgiven you? Won't you feel foolish thinking she hasn't forgiven you? That's the love of God, though we hated Him, He loved and prayed for us. He came and felt what we feel as man feel, He preached love, but we gave Him the most brutal of death. He though being God showed his humility on the cross, he showed his patience and forbearance. He died so as to become mercy seat, so as to make our works perfect through faith in Him because the Father cannot behold iniquity. "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;" However, He is alive today, shouting at the top of His voice, that we should receive Him, so that He can forgive our sins and we reign together with Him as the Sons of God. What a Great Love! What I've written above sounds to you as foolish and pseudointellectual, doesn't it? "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe." ◄ 1 Corinthians 1:21 ► |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by johnydon22(m): 11:03pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
kay1one2: I just thought i defined to you what evolution is and how it has nothing to do with this your naive childish assertion of a wonder cell. Your ignorance of scientific phenomenas and studies is very laughable and i am still advising you please pick a book on evolution, stop insulting the intellect of 21st century homo sapiens with this your laughable state yet pitiable condition. seeing that you obviously didn't comprehend this line, if u did u wouldn't av asked this question let me quote myself to you again. Evolution simply means change in heritable traits of biological And let me post a simple basic pic of what evolutionary branches is.. (i.e- Just the basic pic because a more complex one will probably confuse you.) Now help yourself and find the link you wish for |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by johnydon22(m): 11:08pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:The lady is not omnipotent, thereby cannot heal the rapist kidney failure. if she could she would have without donating her kidney. But your god as you always yap is omnipotent, yet demands blood sacrifice before forgiving sin? That is blood lust. Cant he just go ahead and forgive you without asking for his son to be tortured and murdered? It is barbaric, saddistic, blood lust insanity and nothing near love.. Bring a better example 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by Misogynist2014(m): 11:08pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
johnydon22: All this for a myth!!! Have you ever visited www,creation.com ? It will quench your ignorance. |
Re: Atheists Can't Find The "Missing Link"! by johnydon22(m): 11:11pm On Apr 23, 2015 |
Misogynist2014:@bolded, my ignorance? On what please, evolution Hahahahahahaha scientific studies myth Oh my goodness, education is murdered in Nigeria !!! Please define Myth for me? Define evolution? then define science.. i.e- Please google it, help yourself with google and paste ur reply to me here Y'all are beginning to loose ya sanity 1 Like |
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