Mogidi:
It was not the political machinations of the SW that produced Obasanjo, SW has Babangida to thank for making him president.

What has the north (who boast more presidents than any region) achieved?

Tell us how many presidents the Yorubas have produced. (second biggest tribe)

Don't mix things up, we're talking about the current political democratic dispensation. Whatever it was that brought him to power remains arguable; but what is certain is that so far Yorubas (Obasanjo) ruled 8 years, Hausas (Yaradua) 2 years, Ijaws (Jonathan) 6 years and Ibos () 0 years. This is the reality and Yorubas currently have the longest presidential reign in this new democratic dispensation. Now we have a new government coming up and guess what it's a Hausa president with a Yoruba VP, which emphasizes the political dominance of that socially intelligent and politically savvy tribe called Yorubas. I think the ibos have a lot to learn from this tribe, especially in terms of politics.

CyerSeries:
is your life better than Igbos?.. Igbos will continue to fare better than northerners in all spheres of human endeavor even if the rule the country for hundred years so deal with it

That is the problem with you lot. Even with your assumed advancements, the northerners too would not want to be Igbos. You see traits in them that's unbecoming and they too see many in you. You can have all the supposed advantages you ascribe to yourselves but without empathy you won't make it in public affairs, as you'll be sabotaged

MalcoImX:
That is the problem with you lot. Even with your assumed advancements, the northerners too would not want to be Igbos. You see traits in them that's unbecoming and they too see many in you. You can have all the supposed advantages you ascribe to yourselves but without empathy you wont make it in public affairs, as you'll be sabotaged

you see your life..You brag about holding power but the more you hold power, the more your people suffer and become impoverished..it's better not to be in power and progress in all spheres of life than to be in power and be drowned in abject poverty and penury..

realjoker:
NO They are not enemy of the north but they are enemy of the whole nation, Because am sure they do not did that for the benefit of the ordinary masses but for their selfish interest.

Igbos only fights for their individual gains. They seldom join social causes where they fight for the larger society, such as join socialist parties and fight for the economic welfare of all people. Instead, they are nascent capitalists struggling for their individual gains but not for social gains.

Igbos are not oriented to collectivism and fighting for what is good for the masses or for the nation; they fight only for what isgood for them individually

http://www.igbofocus.com/html/the_igbo_problem_can_be_fixed.html



Very very true. You hardly see them fight or engage in any collective social event or agitation on behalf of the society in general.

What happened when the rest of the country was fighting and risking their lives to put the same GEJ they are dying over in office? Iboland was silent and missing in action? After June 12 nko? They jumped on the next ekenedilichukwu back to their villages....

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Amazo:


Don't mix things up, we're talking about the current political democratic dispensation. Whatever it was that brought him to power remains arguable; but what is certain is that so far Yorubas (Obasanjo) ruled 8 years, Hausas (Yaradua) 2 years, Ijaws (Jonathan) 6 years and Ibos () 0 years. This is the reality and Yorubas currently have the longest presidential reign in this new democratic dispensation. Now we have a new government coming up and guess what it's a Hausa president with a Yoruba VP, which emphasizes the political dominance of that socially intelligent and politically savvy tribe called Yorubas. I think the ibos have a lot to learn from this tribe, especially in terms of politics.

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Not impressed at all considering the SW boast being the second largest tribe.

Remind me how many Hausas have ruled Nigeria and then compare it to the second largest tribe.

MalcoImX:
That is the problem with you lot. Even with your assumed advancements, the northerners too would not want to be Igbos. You see traits in them that's unbecoming and they too see many in you. You can have all the supposed advantages you ascribe to yourselves but without empathy you wont make it in public affairs, as you'll be sabotaged

Trying to make igbos see political reason will always be an effort in futility.

xtayle:


Trying to make igbos see political reason will always be an effort in futility.

political reason that does not add any value to your life, what the need?

CyerSeries:
political reason that does not add any value to your life, what the need?

Exactly my point. you guys should be left in peace so that you can please yourselves.

MalcoImX:
The problem is you and GEJ made yourselves and his leadership an SE/SE affair, and fought everybody that wasn't ready to support his re-election.

It was really bemusing to see how that Jonathan who was elected a PRESIDENT of NIGERIA suddenly reduce himself due to senseless partisanship into the president of the SE + SS alone, and this was the story (and bane) of his presidency. For example, jonathan's government allowed the Boko haram insurgency grow into a fullblown terror outfit and for about 4 years they unleashed terror on the North East and surrounding regions and it was as if we had no government in Nigeria or better yet that the Jonathan government wasn't interested in the security of the North as if these people aren't Nigerian citizens - oh no, not that, maybe because it was not the SE + SS region. Also when the chibok girls were kidnapped, the callous indifference of the Jonathan government was just pure evil. Initially, they acted in denial that the kidnap never occurred. Now, let's not even talk about corruption. These are just a few of the fatal errors that killed the Jonathan presidency that initially enjoyed the goodwill of the Nigerian masses from all zones probably as much or more than Abiola did. It was only a few weeks to elections, when he realized election defeat was imminent that Jonathan suddenly wanted to start acting like the president of Nigeria but it was too late at that point.

CyerSeries:
you see your life..You brag about holding power but the more you hold power, the more your people suffer and become impoverished..it's better not to be in power and progress in all spheres of life than to be in power and be drowned in abject poverty and penury..

I've made my point. With all your supposed 'advancement', no northerner envies you and will want to be like you. And as for power, you are not to be listened for implying that certain 'advanced' humans have developed to a level that they don't want it.

MalcoImX:
I've made my point. With all your supposed 'advancement', no northerner envies you and will want to be like you. And as for power, you are not to be listened for implying that certain 'advanced' humans have developed to a level that they don't want it.

and did I tell you that I want to be like northerners? We are on our own and you went and create a thread for Igbos, are we crying to you for power? Go and solve your poverty problem and leave Igbos alone

I am appauled by the silence of the mods at this thread.
Lalasticlala seun (or however is incharge) , someone opened a thread in the morning on how Nigeria will look like if the Igbos leave. The thread barely reached two pages before it was hidden.

Pls either hide this topic or unlock the morning one for equity to prevail. Thanks.

xtayle:


Exactly my point. you guys should be left in peace so that you can please yourselves.

thank you..leave us alone and solve your poverty problem let's solve ours ..is that too much to ask for?

Amazo:
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And some were even saying that they were happy that it was northerners that were killing themselves. If somebody had said that to them, they'd be all over saying genocide was called on them.

xtayle:


I told u not to waste your time. they are pompous, unrealistic and unworthy of our empathy and love. leave them to their political failures.

I will soon call it a day.

Amazo:


I will soon call it a day.

no continue

CyerSeries:
thank you..leave us alone and solve your poverty problem let's solve ours ..is that too much to ask for?

Enjoy your self inflicted "sabotaged failure/freedom"

xtayle:


Enjoy your self inflicted "sabotaged failure/freedom"

go and solve you poverty problem

MalcoImX:
And some were even saying that they were happy that it was northerners that were killing themselves. If somebody had said that to them, they'd be all over saying genocide was called on them.

Such happiness derives from vindictiveness and such people are the ones who reason such fatal atrocities on the Northern populace as being some sort of revenge against the North for the ibo casualties during the civil war. Only a deranged mind holds such a view

Amazo:


I will soon call it a day.

U better do. they have no sense of appreciation.

xtayle:


U better do. they have no sense of appreciation.

your favor is needed more by your brothers in the north ..

Armaggedon:
I am appauled by the silence of the mods at this thread.
Lalasticlala seun (or however is incharge) , someone opened a thread in the morning on how Nigeria will look like if the Igbos leave. The thread barely reached two pages before it was hidden.

Pls either hide this topic or unlock the morning one for equity to prevail. Thanks.

This thread does not in any way contravene the stipulated regulations. So leave it out of your appeal

CyerSeries:
go and solve you poverty problem

The one with d greatest problem is that who has it but is too proud to admit it. food for thought.

xtayle:


The one with d greatest problem is that who has it but is too proud to admit it. food for thought.

you created a thread to mock because you are in power and you expect me to tell you thank you ...Go and help your impoverished brothers in the north..

CyerSeries:
and did I tell you that I want to be like northerners? We are on our own and you went and create a thread for Igbos, are we crying to you for power? Go and solve your poverty problem and leave Igbos alone

You started the complex of being better than the northerners and I objectively told you everybody wants to be himself. People don't run away from economically viable environments to poverty-stricken areas. The barren, erosion-ravaged land that you yourself are running away from to the North and West is the least place to be proud of.

MalcoImX:
You started the complex of being better than the northerners and I objectively told you everybody wants to be himself. People don't run away from economically viable environments to poverty-stricken areas. The barren, erosion-ravaged land that you yourself are running away from to the North and West is the least place to be proud of.

what is the need for this thread in the first place?...The same way easterners live in the north and west is also the same way northerners and westerners live in the east so I don't know what you are trying to say..

madamoringo:
Ibos don't need, want or will ever get to be the president of Nigeria for the next 1,000 generations at least! This is because the current set of Ibos have said they don't want the presidency as it has not benefitted every other part of the country one way or the other. I completely support that position and I think every Nigerian should.

Let them produce governors in their state but forget ever trying to be president! They neither need nor want it! They also cannot strategize towards it and the era of whining your way to leadership position is long past! No food for lazy man or no presidency for lazy people!

Hmmm, this seems like the quote of the day: "No presidency for lazy people". It's indisputable that the ibos aren't lazy, at least physically. But could they be "lazy politically" and aren't ready to do the necessary things and work hard at it to achieve and earn an ibo presidency fairly and not as a political handout some are wishing for? The ibo political elite need to answer this question.

aresa:




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http://www.igbofocus.com/html/the_igbo_problem_can_be_fixed.html



Very very true. You hardly see them fight or engage in any collective social event or agitation on behalf of the society in general.

What happened when the rest of the country was fighting and risking their lives to put the same GEJ they are dying over in office? Iboland was silent and missing in action? After June 12 nko? They jumped on the next ekenedilichukwu back to their villages....

[b]truth is bitter when GEJ was being bully by the Turai cabals, they were no where to be found san Dora Akuyili, even his ijaw kinsmen were clueness on what step to take, its the same yoruba they now call names the only people that stood up for him and fight for his right

CyerSeries:
you created a thread to mock because you are in power and you expect me to tell you thank you ...Go and help your impoverished brothers in the north..

Correction, this is not a mockery thread and if that's how you see it, then you really need to examine how you think. This thread is at worst a public discussion (a national inter-tribal townhall meeting as it were) where pragmatic ideas are shared and sensible opinions are delibrated.

CyerSeries:
you created a thread to mock because you are in power and you expect me to tell you thank you ...Go and help your impoverished brothers in the north..

You are wrong. the OP created this thread with sincerity of purpose. most comments have been quite objective and suggestive. nigerians courting igbos like damsels in distress and wanting to be helpful. what do they get from you? insult, hate and pompousity. no one demanded "thank u" from u. stop pretending u are self sufficient when you are not.

Amazo:


Correction, this is not a mockery thread and if that's how you see it, then you really need to examine how you think. This thread is at worst a public discussion (a national townhall meeting as it were) where pragmatic ideas are shared and sensible opinions are delibrated.

you did not create a thread on how to better the life of Nigerians irrespective of tribe, you are creating a thread about ibo, are you Ibo? Did Ibos cried to you for president? The only thing we ibos from any government is provide a level playing ground for all Nigerians and allow us to fight for our survival ...is that a crime?

xtayle:


You are wrong. the OP created this thread with sincerity of purpose. most comments have been quite objective and suggestive. nigerians courting igbos like damsels in distress and wanting to be helpful. what do they get from you? insult, hate and pompousity. no one demanded "thank u" from u. stop pretending u are self sufficient when you are not.

and I told that we are not in distress..if you want to help ibos, provide a level playing ground for everybody..is it too much to ask for?