DieVluit:

Stop crying, Nigerian. Not my fault South Africans treated you like rubbish, as confirmed by you.

Again baiting me. Morpheus trying hard to resist....must resist

Stay on topic!

morpheus24:

Nigerians fair much better in China and Malaysia than they do in South Africa from my perspective and interactions. You have a higher number of legit traders, importers, students and Nigerian business people who travel and relocate to these countries in comparison to the unskilled and semi skilled type that find it easier to travel to South Africa. China and Malaysia do have issues with Nigerians who engage in illegal activities as should any country but there is no blanket perception that ALL NIGERIANS are drug dealers as it is in South Africa.

The attestation to this is the perception of Nigerians in developed countries like the US, the UK, Germany and the likes which attracts the more working,middle class, upper middle class Nigerians. You don not experience discrimination in the manner meted out in South Africa or at least they are more civilized about it than the South Africans are.



My dear, it is not corrupted at all. I fight for people like you and the little girl in those pictures who's crime it is to be stereotyped by a people who constantly want to blame others for their misfortunes. I am fully aware of how social media exaggerated the pictures about Xenophobia and I am definitely not new to the topic seeing that I have been on Nairaland for quite some time now.

Yes. Nigerians faring "better" in China, as can be seen below.

Consequently, the SA xenophobia attacks never produced such images of dead Nigerians.

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2009/08/01/big_trouble_in_chinas_chocolate_city.html

http://urhobotoday.com/?p=7300

You fight because you are bitter. Finish n klaar.

chineloSA:
SA is not so bad as it is ppainted, yes there are challenges but if you do things by law you will have a better future. There are few Nigerians who are benefiting from getting SA education and citizenship etc. including myself.
I just met another two Nigerian guys who are living and working in Saudi Arabia on SA passports. Funny enough we were discussing discrimination because of Nationality in Saudi Arabia in all industries or sectors. We all know we would not have gotten the jobs here in Saudi Arabia with Nigerian passport but only because for SA citizenship. Saudi state the countries they wish to attract and if you re not from those countries they don't employ you, and Nigeria is not one of those skills they wish to attract
The Universities and school will be closing for summer and they are both going to SA for holidays. I asked them if they will be going to Naija by any chance, the response was "HELL NO" They are bot planning to buy property in SA and settle in SA.
So if Xenophobia was extremely bad in all corners of SA, why would they prefer to go SA than Nigeria??
Those who wish to go to SA, go legally and get proper SA education and later citizenship and never be on the wrong side of the law, you will reap great rewards just like any legal immigrant elsewhere. SA Higher education is still respected and the development is also very respected.
As OP said plan your move very well and you will reap the benefits Understand that the media sometimes hyper-sensationalize issues.

Again this is not an indictment on All South Africans for Christ sake. However there is nothing that I have said that is untrue. If there is then please point it out and I will correct it otherwise.

The good and bad of South Africa must be told, no sugar coating.

To be forewarned is to be forearmed!

Shikena!

morpheus24:


Again baiting me. Morpheus trying hard to resist....must resist

Stay on topic!

Stop crying. Just accept that South Africa didn't want to accept you and live with it.

DieVluit:

Yes. Nigerians faring "better" in China, as can be seen below.
Consequently, the SA xenophobia attacks never produced such images of dead Nigerians.
http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2009/08/01/big_trouble_in_chinas_chocolate_city.html
http://urhobotoday.com/?p=7300
You fight because you are bitter. Finish n klaar.

At least you are staying on topic now!

Dude jumped out of a building and died. He wasn't killed

If the police had arrested him, They would have taken him to jail, processed him and deported him

NOT burn him alive!

DieVluit:

Stop crying. Just accept that South Africa didn't want to accept you and live with it.

Morpheus shedding cyber tears!!!

morpheus24:


Dude jumped out of a building and died. He wasn't killed

Yes, so the Nigerian mob of filth below was protesting against a building and the gods that made the man fall.

Also the man in the picture below was not a member of a Nigerian drug cartel in China. He was arrested for selling roses and cotton wool.

DieVluit:

Yes, so the Nigerian mob of filth below was protesting against a building and the gods that made the man fall.
Also the man in the picture below was not a member of a Nigerian drug cartel in China. He was arrested for selling roses and cotton wool.

Do you see how those dudes are chilling and smoking right in front of the cops. Not possible in SA. You are slapped and dragged at the back of the car if you are a foreigner.

No bruises or marks on the guy who was arrested. he is being escorted to jail.

Not being burnt alive!

morpheus24:


Do you see how those dudes are chilling and smoking right in front of the cops. Civilized people.

No bruises or marks on the guy who was arrested. he is being escorted to jail.

Not being burnt alive!

Yes, chilling and being showered with love as confirmed by the story below. Consequently, no Nigerian burnt alive in South Africa. You are bitter and have been wounded by South Africa. That's that.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/02/nigerians-notoriety-china-unprecedented-ambassador-onadipe/


[b]How about people to people relation?
It is going on well but a lot of Nigerians have problems coming to China, not because they are not qualified to come but I think a lot of obstacles are deliberately put on their way. China visa regime is a little bit tough, you are expected to have a letter of invitation; so for a business man who is coming for the first time, it is really difficult. The categories of business people allowed to invite foreigners to China, the ordinary traders in Nigeria, even the middle level business people, don’t have access to them.
I don’t know why a typical trader in Guangzhou, for instance, cannot send a letter of invitation to another trader in Nigeria to come to China, but that letter is not recognized. And when they go to the Chinese embassy or consulate, Nigerians are subjected to all sorts of ridiculous treatment. We hear all sorts of stories about how agents are fleecing Nigerians to get them visa; some end up paying as much as N250,000 to N350.000 and they still don’t get the visa, so how do we solve the problems? It is not in our hands, Nigerians need to find out what is going on in the Chinese embassy.[/b]
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/02/nigerians-notoriety-china-unprecedented-ambassador-onadipe/#sthash.Qr0h5hJi.dpuf

darmhey:
Some people can just be negative, he said he left cos of a flood attack that ruined him, what did our government do when it ruined him? What if the flood killed him what would they have done? The guy said his job is more convenient there just leave him alone nd shut the f**k up! There hasn't been light for one week in my area and we get fuel for #140 are u telling me ppl will not be having problems with their businesses? He didn't say u must come neither did he say you will not make it in Nigeria, he's only giving advice to people that want to travel abroad, if u don't want the advice, simply walk out f the thread.

God bless you

DieVluit:


There's only ONE EXCUSE that's fact and it's about Nigerians:

They sell drugs and they are pimps. Not "foreigners", but Nigerians. Everything else is irrelevant.

End of story.

Even this thread is full of typical Nigerian thinking like "does marrying a South African woman help me get papers".

That alone tell you what we are dealing with - people that would do anything for money, even if it means marrying a woman they don't love.

This also tells us how much a failure Nigeria is - for young men to be so desperate that they consider marrying a woman just for papers.

You are a failed immigrant, my friend. South Africa burned you and you can't get over it. You know nothing about South Africa even if you have lived in it. You failed to integrate and now you think South Africans owe you something. As an immigrant, it was up to you to do the work that would help you integrate. But you failed to and you ended up on the fringes of South African society. Now, you are bitter.

don't let morpheus get to u. I am a nigerian and south africa has been my home for almost ten years. Truth b told, south africans r a very accomodating people.

PAINGAIN:
don't let morpheus get to u. I am a nigerian and south africa has been my home for almost ten years. Truth b told, south africans r a very accomodating people.

So are Nigerians.

What's your point?

morpheus24:


So are Nigerians.

What's your point?

His point is that you've clearly accepted that South Africans are accommodating people.

No need to be confused.

PAINGAIN:
don't let morpheus get to u. I am a nigerian and south africa has been my home for almost ten years. Truth b told, south africans r a very accomodating people.

Truth speaks.

DieVluit:

Truth speaks.

It speaks loud and clear.

DieVluit:

His point is that you've clearly accepted that South Africans are accommodating people.
No need to be confused.

Dogs are an accommodating species.

That doesn't mean much.

morpheus24:


Dogs are an accommodating species.

That doesn't mean much.

It means you can't accuse them of not being accommodating, which cancels out 100% of your posts.

DieVluit:

It means you can't accuse them of not being accommodating, which cancels out 100% of your posts.

Dogs are also vicious biters!

Have you been bitten by one before?

morpheus24:


Dogs are also vicious biters!

Have you been bitten by one before?

You still can't accuse them of not being accommodating. You still have 100% of your posts cancelled out by your own acceptance of the truth.

DieVluit:

You still can't accuse them of not being accommodating. You still have 100% of your posts cancelled out by your own acceptance of the truth.

Ahh, I see you are one of those who likes to have the last word huh.

Let me leave you with this. The last two comments I made re-enforce The "logic" behind my arguments.

Now please continue to stay on topic.

If you like me so much like that then open up a thread about all the "lies" I spew about your country then we can talk.

SHikena!

morpheus24:


Ahh, I see you are one of those who likes to have the last word huh.

Let me leave you with this. The last two comments I made re-enforce The "logic" behind my arguments.

Now please continue to stay on topic.

If you like me so much like that then open up a thread about all the "lies" I spew about your country then we can talk.

SHikena!

Once again: welcome to logic. The truth has set you free. Well done.

DieVluit:


I agree with you, LeSudAfricaine. Many foreigners stay in secluded social "enclaves" in South Africa and you find that they do not understand the country even after years of having been there. If you do not do your homework so that you can integrate yourself into the country, you will continue being seen as a foreigner. Part of the integration process is understanding the history and social fabric of the place. Anyone who denies that Hillbrow is a slum has not even begun to understand the country. The definition of a slum is as follows:

"A squalid and overcrowded urban street or district inhabited by very poor people." _ That is Hillbrow, no matter how you look at it.

And then saying that a township is another name for a slum is something that an uninformed foreigner would say. Where do townships come from, historically? Why were they created? Read up on that and you are on your way to speaking knowledgeably about South Africa.

There are slums IN Alexandra but Alexandra itself is not a slum. It is a township. In the same way that there are slums in Johannesburg, but Johannesburg is a city. I will not go into a story about what a township is because this is not the point I want to make.

The point I want to make is that you cannot expect hosts to embrace you. You need to embrace the hosts. That way, you will be one with them. Being ignorant about them will not help you.

I raised the intergration issue in the "foreign affairs" thread, morpheurs24 hummered me for it. You dont go to a foreign land and isolate yourself in a little group, instead of making friendship with the locals. The locals will view you as an enemy, but if you made friendship with them, you will learn a lot about them and the country as a whole. Its shocking to find someone who has lived in the country for 10yrs and still does not understand the country, that happens when you isolate yourself.

morpheus24:


Ahh, I see you are one of those who likes to have the last word huh.

Let me leave you with this. The last two comments I made re-enforce The "logic" behind my arguments.

Now please continue to stay on topic.

If you like me so much like that then open up a thread about all the "lies" I spew about your country then we can talk.

SHikena!

Morpheus24, who has been rubbishing SA since 2006, it has become a career for you Mr Seppuku, we know you use 2 accounts here.

14:

I raised the intergration issue in the "foreign affairs" thread, morpheurs24 hummered me for it. You dont go to a foreign land and isolate yourself in a little group, instead of making friendship with the locals. The locals will view you as an enemy, but if you made friendship with them, you will learn a lot about them and the country as a whole. Its shocking to find someone who has lived in the country for 10yrs and still does not understand the country, that happens when you isolate yourself.

It is strange to me this logic of the problem of Isolationism??

This means that either every foreigner has a mental disorder or its the reverse with the locals.

This isolationism is practiced by Nigerians, Ethiopian, Somali, Congolese, Burundians, Malawians, Mozambicans, Greeks, Portugese, Chinese, Indians, Brits, Germans, Jews e.t.c. that reside in South Africa

Hmmm

Could it be that because you have been locked away in bantustans for quite a while that everyone else looks like "enemies" to you.

14:

Morpheus24, who has been rubbishing SA since 2006, it has become a career for you Mr Seppuku, we know you use 2 accounts here.

Are you just realizing that I have an ALter ego on nairaland.

You are slow, BOss!

morpheus24:


It is strange to me this logic of the problem of Isolationism??

This means that either every foreigner has a mental disorder or its the reverse with the locals.

This isolationism is practiced by Nigerians, Ethiopian, Somali, Congolese, Burundians, Malawians, Mozambicans, Greeks, Portugese, Chinese, Indians, Brits, Germans, Jews e.t.c. that reside in South Africa

Hmmm

Could it be that because you have been locked away in bantustans for quite a while that everyone else looks like "enemies" to you.

This very thread - maybe even you - has confirmed in past pages that Zimbabweans etc are in townships and the like. And that the Nigerians are elsewhere. This was used to explain why they were attacked and why Nigerians were not.

Also, the Soweto and Alexandra you have been jumping up and down about are not in Bantustans. Same applies to Gugs and lots of other townships.

Yet another example of your limited knowledge of South Africa, notwithstanding your having been in the country for many years. Secluded, you have been. Rejected, you have been as a result. Ignorant, you are as a consequence. And bitter, you forever will be.

morpheus24:


You simply are clueless about what I am referring to so please don't attempt to comment.

You didn't even get the context of the mention of a "2005 E class Mercedes." Please slow down read the comment and comprehend within its context....

Shikena!

oga you can't comprehend what you type yourself....therefore keep you thumb closed

MduZA:

oga you can't comprehend what you type yourself....therefore keep you thumb closed

have u had your daily ration of pap and cabbage, today?

don't type hungry, clouds the mind

seppuku:


have u had your daily ration of pap and cabbage, today.

don't type hungry, clouds the mind

Let me handover my device to my 10 year old cousin so that you can have man to man interaction with him...Mufuos24

MduZA:

Let me handover my device to my 10 year old cousin so that you can have man to man interaction with him...Mufuos24

Please address me as Seppuku or if you want to be more formal Harakiri!

LeSudAfricaine:
You've written a lot, but pretty much say nothin' you basically repeat the same thing over and over again

You have no business in telling South Africans they have a problem, we are a problem in our own country not in Vietnam, Malaysia, indonesia etc face that problem first before telling other people, You live in a glass house don't throw stones

It's funny how you take "iisolated ncidents "and make them the norm, Sure your friends took out some cheap floozies out, so what? Does it now mean our women now prefer Nigerian men? Not by a long shot, Women who marry Nigerians are looked down upon, not only by men but by the South African society in general and that's fact!

And please stop feeding me this vídeo nonsense, I unlike you do not study South África for a living, I live in SA, I'm South African, you can't possibly understand the country more than I do

True.

PunkyOh:

True.

Men you guys are coming out the wood works aren't you. Did they stop serving alcoholic beverages at the Shebeen today. Tis the week end?


PS the article only strengthens my argument for all to see on nairaland, Honey booboo. Even you guys use the word Xenophobia to define your Hatred and madness.