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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by PassingShot(m): 2:20pm On May 26, 2015
anonimi:


You should ask yourself that question grin
Yes, I am. cool
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by Correctman0606: 2:20pm On May 26, 2015
Ezenwammadu:
Hypocrisy is when you where abusing GEJ for trying remove fuel subsidy in 2012 and now screaming remove fuel subsidy
It also means talking from both sides of his mouth. We now see the real evil people who, by all mean wanted GEJ out. They oppressed and forced him, GEJ out because he is from minority. The forces of this country and the spirit of GEJ, the God's sent, will handle you people. Devils.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by exlink10(m): 2:21pm On May 26, 2015
onatisi:
your post makes no sense. So because u didn't trust gej ,u allowed the nation to lose about 20billion dollars to oil marketers and to punish the nation for 4 solid years so that when u come into power u will remove itdoes that make any common sense to u? Do u know how much nigeria has lost as payments to these oil marketers within 4years


You sef. U don't even understand the big picture. Imagine a scenario were PMS is supposed to be sold at 80 per litre normally while our gvt is telling us that the acqual price is 160 and and that they are subsidizing it thereby paying N80 while Nigerians pay N80.

But in the actual sense, they are lotting/defrauding N80 per littre in any PMS you and I buy. that's why buhari is still amazed with this fraud called subsidy.

Someone here is saying if subsidy is removed that PMS will cost btw N155 to N160 that it is the same thing in Ghana. How can u compare 6th Highest Producing Oil nation with Ghana that is not even the 100th?

If u see evil my people, say it is evil and don't find a way around. it has been say that it only that's good peoples quiteness for evil to foster.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by AreaFada2: 2:22pm On May 26, 2015
PassingShot:


To start with, GEJ failed woefully in the way and manner he tried to remove the subsidy (if there really was).

You don't wake up one morning to announce such removal and increase in pump price without sensitizing the nation; without discussing with major stakeholders.

And the partial removal that he did, what did we get in returns?

The SURE-P program, as has been revealed just last week that the employee figure was inflated from 12k to 35k, is another evidence of the scam.

The buses that were promised, where are they today? The refineries, where are they?

Bottom line:
1. I believe there was no true subsidy in the first instance. What we had was an imaginary subsidy.

2. If there truly was subsidy, GEJ could have handled the removal in a more responsible manner than just announcing through the radio, on January 1st 2012, that subsidy was removed. No where in the whole world will such action go unchallenged. He needed to have discussed it with major stakeholders the need to remove subsidy. IBB, Abacha and even OBJ removed some subsidy and we witnessed how they handled it.

3. Nigerians, by rejecting the subsidy, were able to reduce/limit their loss had we allowed full subsidy removal.

4. Now that majority of Nigerians believe we have a more trust-worthy president in Buhari, they will accept a subsidy removal (if there was any) provided they know what they'd get in returns in predetermined dates.
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Well, no need talking too much now. May 29th is almost here. Let's see if GMB will send messengers to every household before making executive decisions. Those of us who witnessed GMB's regime before would have a good idea.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by Kingspin(m): 2:22pm On May 26, 2015
Some part of Nigeria are fools. Now u remeber to support to remove fuel subsidy. The same way they rejected the national confab. I have the feelings that they enemies of Nigeria hated GEJ for been the first leader to do good. A fool when Jonathan is in power is a fool forever. Untill we tells ourselves the real truth in this country, Buhari coming cannot change Nigeria. Good morning Fools of Nigeria.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by onatisi(m): 2:22pm On May 26, 2015
atbu1983:


ur point noted. Atleast u should be happy that most people are asking for d removal today since you supported d removal in 2012. As painful it may be to you as a supporter of Jonathan, election has past. is time to focus on What is best for Nigeria.
bros don't take nigerians silence for granted oo, because they were shouting sai buhari doesn't mean they won't stone him if he messes up. No salaries,no salary increment,and yet u want to remove subsidy!!!! I know even buhari won't try it.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by blym4real: 2:27pm On May 26, 2015
AreaFada2:
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People took a sectarian approach to it. They were NOT ready to hear or listen. It wasn't at all about rational. It was about plans to unseat GEJ come 2015. It was making him look as bad as possible.

People like me who tried explaining here were shouted down by tribal bigots.

GEJ could not go about arresting Wale Tinubu, Otedola, Dangote's Uncle (Dantata), Ubah and the rest that pocketed billions in subsidy that Nigerians didn't enjoy.

They would have called him a militant from the creek, out to deal with non-Niger Deltans.

Now people are talking about subsidy from all corners of their mouth.

People should get ready for the "change" they clamour for. Removal of subsidy would be just a start.


can you tell us what the fund generated from the partial removal was used for?

One would expect a sane government to use the money to fix the local refineries to work to their maximum capacities or even build a new one but instead they can't account for the usage of the fund.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by PassingShot(m): 2:27pm On May 26, 2015
AreaFada2:
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Well, no need talking too much now. May 29th is almost here. Let's see if GMB will send messengers to every household before making executive decisions. Those of us who witnessed GMB's regime before would have a good idea.

He doesn't need to come to your house for you to know his plan. He has said it that all his major plans will be discussed with stakeholders before going ahead with them.

Btw, I was grown enough when GMB ruled.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by Datanet: 2:27pm On May 26, 2015
AdamsBashforth:
So GEJ was correct...i have always known his intentions for Nigeria were genuine. Well One down... so many more to go. Tribalism and ethnicity was the fuel used in kicking him out of office. If we had listened to him, we should not have wasted all these years. Some sections of our country displayed immaturity in dealing with that policy. Dont forget that IMMATURITY can be defined as a behaviour that is appropriate to someone younger.



GEJ was not right. Under GEJ, subsidy payments grew from 200 billion naira to 1.5 trillion naira. Oil Marketers grew from 30 to 300. Every one who knew someone in PPPRA got a license and started importing. Saraki then raised the alarm in the senate that led to the Presidency removing subsidy in order to stop the wastage. It was a desperate attempt at a bad situation. The solution should be to control subsidy payments and fix refineries. Not to place hardships on Nigerians
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by francizy(m): 2:31pm On May 26, 2015
kingslly:
The price of fuel after removal of subsidy shuldnt matter here because Nigerians for the past few weeks were willing to buy fuel at 500naira/litre,Fuel was selling at 140/litre in 2012 when GEJ removed subsidy.


Hehehehehe! No way bro.. Like Buhari promised, PMS must sell at #40 per litre
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by MosquitoREBIRTH(m): 2:31pm On May 26, 2015
oshyno:
Hypocricy at its peak. Well am waiting to see ojota occupiers on what they have to say to it.

If I remember corectly the reason for APC kicking against it was bcuz they wanted FG to fix d refineries first b4 emarking on it. Just asking if the refineris are working uptimally though.

Oga Saraki , Tinubu, Fash over.
Oga, was there APC in 2012? For your info, the protest was mainly for the wrong timing of the removal. How will you instil sufferings on Nigerians on the 1st day of the year without prior notice and you expect people to be happy?
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by onatisi(m): 2:32pm On May 26, 2015
blym4real:


can you tell us what the fund generated from the partial removal was used for, because the refineries are still not working even after the partial removal.
you still don't get it. Whatever they used the money for isn't the issue now, the point is nigeria would have been free forever from the grips of oil marketers,the price of fuel would have stabilized itself,there will be no more fuel scarcity and most of all gej would still have lost the election and buhari won't have to face the problem now all over again . Right now nigeria is back to square one again!!!!!

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by PedroJP(m): 2:33pm On May 26, 2015
Mine is, if they now push for subsidy removal, they don't need to doubt when we tell them Igbos reason in a far different way entirely compared to SWners and Northerners. As simple as that.


Remove the subsidy pls. They will still suffer what they shifted just that they'v shown they lack intellect.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by fanex: 2:33pm On May 26, 2015
actually its you that makes no sense. if we had trusted GEJ to truly open the market, we would have caved in to removal of subsidy. we truly dodged a bullent because if we had allowed GEJ to remove subsidy then, thee marketers would have demanded N300 a litre cos they wouldnt allow anyone else to bring in the product.
onatisi:
your post makes no sense. So because u didn't trust gej ,u allowed the nation to lose about 20billion dollars to oil marketers and to punish the nation for 4 solid years so that when u come into power u will remove itdoes that make any common sense to u? Do u know how much nigeria has lost as payments to these oil marketers within 4years
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by lexy2014: 2:34pm On May 26, 2015
atbu1983:
With Subsidy removed, a litre of Fuel will be 155naira. That is the price of 1 litre in Ghana. i support the removal. Subsidy favour d rich more than d poor. The more d number of cars and generator you have, d more you gain from fuel subsidy. Nigeria can cope with even 160naira per liter. As long as d money gained from d removal of sunsidy is channelled to building of Refinery.
I started hearing about fuel subsidy from d IBB regime although there had been fuel price increase as far back as d gowon regime. B4 1985, nigeria was self sufficient in terms refining petroleum products. During IBB era, a new means of making money was devised,removing FUEL SUBSIDY under d guise of SAP. By denying d refineries periodic maintenance, production dropped. This coupled with increasing demand 4 petroleum products, d govt at d time resorted 2 importation 2 augment local production. This obnoxious policy was inherited by successive govts cos of how "lucrative" it was. What our govts have done since then is 2 adjust price of products thru PPPRA in d name of DEREGULATION when in actual fact they are REGULATING. With deregulation, govt hands off fixing d price of petroleum products 4 operators and then licenses investors both local and foreign 2 refine and market. With this, products will b available at market price not PPPRA price. By-products especially cooking gas will b in abundance since its a "waste" producers will like 2 cash in on. Just like in telcoms were price of sim crashed from N35,000 2 N100 with beg, petroleum products will b like pure water. This is how 2 end fuel subsidy fraud
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by Kingspin(m): 2:34pm On May 26, 2015
atbu1983:
I can tell you, if Buhari remove subsidy today, d protest will be very weak. there wont be massive protest because majority of Nigeria will support it. in 2012 majority was against it . that is d difference. It was not d street protest that led to d reversal in 2012. It was NLC strike that reversed it. if NLC and TUC leadership can be convinced about it, that is d end of subsidy. currently NUPENG and PENGASSAN are calling fir d removal already in a subtle way.
For ur info. the outcoming Federal govt have already removed oil subsidy mõney. That is why It didnt reflected on 2015 budget.
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by Datanet: 2:35pm On May 26, 2015
AreaFada2:
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People took a sectarian approach to it. They were NOT ready to hear or listen. It wasn't at all about rational. It was about plans to unseat GEJ come 2015. It was making him look as bad as possible.
People like me who tried explaining here were shouted down by tribal bigots.
GEJ could not go about arresting Wale Tinubu, Otedola, Dangote's Uncle (Dantata), Ubah and the rest that pocketed billions in subsidy that Nigerians didn't enjoy.
They would have called him a militant from the creek, out to deal with non-Niger Deltans.
Now people are talking about subsidy from all corners of their mouth.
People should get ready for the "change" they clamour for. Removal of subsidy would be just a start.


The subsidy payments cannot be removed just like that. Prices of fuel would go up to around N150. That would mean increased food, transportation etc. The NLC would request for increased minimum wage. Basically Nigerians will suffer. The Governemtn should do its job and control and monitor subsidy payments. It should review products actually imported and pay for the difference btw landing cost and actual selling price in the market. The Governement cannot and should not pass its responsibility on its people. It should do its job.
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by onatisi(m): 2:35pm On May 26, 2015
MosquitoREBIRTH:
Oga, was there APC in 2012? For your info, the protest was mainly for the wrong timing of the removal. How will you instil sufferings on Nigerians on the 1st day of the year without prior notice and you expect people to be happy?
the organisers of the protest never gave bad timing as the reason for their stand against oil subsidy removal,rather they just rejected it out rightly

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by chukwukamma(m): 2:35pm On May 26, 2015
PGEJ removed this crazy subsidy in Jan. 2012 and we frustrated the move and forced him to retain it. Today some of the people that were protesting on the streets and squares in Lagos are today singing the song of subsidy removal they opposed. In any case, it is better late than never.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by Correctman0606: 2:37pm On May 26, 2015
amakaobiemeka:
a wrapped up mind is when u blame people for not trusting gej with the full subsidy removal proceeds when indeed gej already showed he cant account for what he and his prostitues frds did with proceeds frm the partial removal scam. We have gmb a man we can trust with the proceeds, he can take it and do the helpful for all
Who is this brat? Why would you not trust that senile vegetable call Buhari? Why would you not trust Buhari when both of you are Islam members and to make things worse, are all Fulani by ethnicity. Tell us who does know the Fulanis who are the only people who love no other person other than themselves? Buhari is one of the worse thieves. He indulge in corrupt practices that closed down PTF. His records are still in NNPC, when he bought tugs boat and small ships to comvey and sell our raw crude to outsiders. Buhari is a bloody thief.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by omenka(m): 2:38pm On May 26, 2015
Beremx:
How much will a litre of fuel be sold for then?

I cannot be against the removal of fuel subsidy in 2012 and be in favour of it in 2015. That's sheer hypocrisy.

What you don't seem to understand is that our opposition to removal of subsidy then had nothing whatsoever to do with the propriety of the action, it had everything to do with the custodians of the savings made from such removal. We didn't trust them then and still don't trust them now.

Look at this, when there was partial removal (just N1.00 per litre went to PTF I think) under Abacha, just as we have now (N32.00 per litre going to SURE-P!!), we saw what Buhari did with the savings through PTF. Now can they show us what Jonathan or Kolade did with SURE-p Can you compare??

So if a trustworthy man like Buhari proposes such a policy, I'd go with it big time because I'm confident the monies realised from it would be used to provide us with better roads, hospitals and other infrastructures. We'd see exactly where the money is going to, unlike the gargantuan scam of sure-p we have under Jonathan and his gang. The stench was so bad Kolade even had to throw in the towel at some point.

Under Buhari, I'm totally supportive of the policy and there's nothing hypocritical about it.
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by onatisi(m): 2:39pm On May 26, 2015
Kingspin:
For ur info. the outcoming Federal govt have already removed oil subsidy mõney. That is why It didnt reflected on 2015 budget.
it is a pollitical move by gej . Nigeria needs fuel,and the refineries aren't there ,which means we need the marketers . Let's see whether buhari will continue oil subsidy or remove it and allow the fuel scarcity to continue
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by blym4real: 2:39pm On May 26, 2015
onatisi:
you still don't get it. Whatever they used the money for isn't the issue now, the point is nigeria would have been free forever from the grips of oil marketers,the price of fuel would have stabilized itself,there will be no more fuel scarcity and most of all gej would still have lost the election and buhari won't have to face the problem now all over again . Right now nigeria is back to square one again!!!!!

There will never be freedom in the oil sector until we are refining our oil locally, the only way to be free from the marketers is get the local refineries to work and build new ones not all these subsidy bullshit.

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Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by lexy2014: 2:40pm On May 26, 2015
fanex:
actually its you that makes no sense. if we had trusted GEJ to truly open the market, we would have caved in to removal of subsidy. we truly dodged a bullent because if we had allowed GEJ to remove subsidy then, thee marketers would have demanded N300 a litre cos they wouldnt allow anyone else to bring in the product.
I started hearing about fuel subsidy from d IBB regime although there had been fuel price increase as far back as d gowon regime. B4 1985, nigeria was self sufficient in terms refining petroleum products. During IBB era, a new means of making money was devised,removing FUEL SUBSIDY under d guise of SAP. By denying d refineries periodic maintenance, production dropped. This coupled with increasing demand 4 petroleum products, d govt at d time resorted 2 importation 2 augment local production. This obnoxious policy was inherited by successive govts cos of how "lucrative" it was. What our govts have done since then is 2 adjust price of products thru PPPRA in d name of DEREGULATION when in actual fact they are REGULATING. With deregulation, govt hands off fixing d price of petroleum products 4 operators and then licenses investors both local and foreign 2 refine and market. With this, products will b available at market price not PPPRA price. By-products especially cooking gas will b in abundance since its a "waste" producers will like 2 cash in on. Just like in telcoms were price of sim crashed from N35,000 2 N100 with beg, petroleum products will b like pure water. This is how 2 end fuel subsidy fraud. GEJ missed it
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by haibe(m): 2:41pm On May 26, 2015
I still don't believe there was any subsidy in the first place.. If there was subsidy and it is important to remove it so as to create better refineries; then let it be removed . GEJ never told us he was removing subsidy for this reason and that is why we protested against it.. he only said it was because the government was borrowing to finance subsidy which according to us doesn't make sense. So if building refineries is the reason.. let GMB renove the damn subsidy..

*although I still doubt its existence. *
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by MosquitoREBIRTH(m): 2:42pm On May 26, 2015
femialiu:


Get your facts right...this dude has always been against subsidy removal...he was in PDP in 2012.
Bro, just forget all these people. They just wake up to say trash just because they saw names in the article. There was no APC in 2012 and moreover, Nigerians were against the wrong timing and way in which the removal was done. It was even more like a Dictatorship kind of removal. You wake up on the 1st day of the year to face untold hardship and sufferings without prior notice.
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by Nobody: 2:42pm On May 26, 2015
Haa?

Ends, they say, shall never wonder!

You mean they are calling on Buhari to remove subsidy?

I wish I believe in Nigeria, I would have started mobilizing for occupy Aso Rock and the National Assemblies.

GEJ, history shall judge a great man!
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by Correctman0606: 2:42pm On May 26, 2015
exlink10:



You sef. U don't even understand the big picture. Imagine a scenario were PMS is supposed to be sold at 80 per litre normally while our gvt is telling us that the acqual price is 160 and and that they are subsidizing it thereby paying N80 while Nigerians pay N80.

But in the actual sense, they are lotting/defrauding N80 per littre in any PMS you and I buy. that's why buhari is still amazed with this fraud called subsidy.

Someone here is saying if subsidy is removed that PMS will cost btw N155 to N160 that it is the same thing in Ghana. How can u compare 6th Highest Producing Oil nation with Ghana that is not even the 100th?

If u see evil my people, say it is evil and don't find a way around. it has been say that it only that's good peoples quiteness for evil to foster.
Who is this kid here again? Mitcheeew. Rubbish.
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by onatisi(m): 2:43pm On May 26, 2015
blym4real:


There will never be freedom in the oil sector until we are refining our oil locally, the only way to be free from the marketers is get the local refineries to work and build new ones not all these subsidy bullshit.
bro ,no sensible govt will repair those refineries,they will rather sell them to private investors . But no investor will invest in oil refinery in nigeria when govt is subsidizing imported fuel.this is what gej was saying then. He would have removed the subsidy and make the oil business lucrative for private investors
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by komek(m): 2:45pm On May 26, 2015
Ezenwammadu:
Hypocrisy is when you where abusing GEJ for trying remove fuel subsidy in 2012 and now screaming remove fuel subsidy

It will so fo..olish of the PDP to allow tinubu and his APC followers to remove subsidy. Because Ojoto was occupied by these evil men in other to run down the govt of GEJ. APC shud better look for another alternative than removing subsidy.
Re: Remove Fuel Subsidy – Saraki Tells Buhari by grabs(m): 2:45pm On May 26, 2015
atbu1983:


Go back to the reasons it was rejected in 2012 under Jonathan. We rejected it because of d stealing in Jonathan govt. People felt you will only be making sacrifice for politicians to steal. that is why d elites rejected it then. But with Buhari, we believe corruption will be reduced atleast in d presidency. we are confident of his integrity. with subsidy removal fuel will be 155naira to 160 naira. It will be d end of scarcity.

What warped reason are you alluding to here. Here was a man that had just been overwhelmingly elected for for about 7months. What were the corruption issues? Simply accept that you were and still seem to be so gullible to be misled by the propaganda.

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