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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by efilefun(m): 5:01am On Jun 07, 2015
atbu1983:
OP in d case of PDP in 2011, it was not an election among PDP rep members but an imposition by Obasanjo and other PDP big wig. But in this case, there was an election among APC members. This is not an imposition.

I agree with you that Gbabiajamala can lose d main election in d house
. But he have more chance of winning than dangara



How United State Speaker is Selected



The House of Representatives elects the Speaker of the House on
the first day of every new Congress and in the event of the death
or resignation of an incumbent Speaker. The Clerk of the House
of Representatives requests nominations: there are normally two,
one from each major party (each party having previously met to
decide on its nominee) . The Clerk then calls the roll of the
Representatives-elect, each Representative-elect indicating the
surname of the candidate he or she is supporting.
Representatives-elect are not restricted to voting for one of the
nominated candidates and may vote for any person, even for
someone who is not a member (or member-elect) of the House at
all. They may also abstain by voting "present". [3]


en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives


Note that it is stated that the political parties made the decision of
who to contest ahead of time. And each party only present one
person.
APC is doing the right thing
You dey mind the drunkard... He's such an hater, we all knew what happened during PDP primaries in Lagos .
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by micmond: 5:02am On Jun 07, 2015
APC a party of one day one drama, they should get their priorities right and get down to work.
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by OrlandoOwoh(m): 5:33am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
Should PDP queue up behind Dogara and he emerges Speaker, it means PDP will have the Deputy slot and will defacto call the shots in the House, just as APC called the shots in the 7th House. This will weaken the APC and also a precursor for 2019.
I thought you knew what you're saying when you quoted from the Constitution? If you claim PDP will get the deputy slot, would they also get the slot of Opposition Leader?

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Burger01(m): 5:33am On Jun 07, 2015
aresa:
lol @ Nollywood rejects story writers and their crooked imagination. Sad effects of zero meaningful employment after jona's exit..

I read the same funny story about some APC rep teaming up with some PDP loser just to secure leadership election... grin



TANoids are really funny and full of political analyst actors and actresses.cheesy Imagine sour PDP members teaming up with one aggrieved APC member just to make relevance in the senate. Lol. Epicgrin

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by ElDeeVee(m): 5:40am On Jun 07, 2015
And dis poo made FP..Na wa o..if you don't know all dis epistle before den (*in Obj's voice*) "you know nothing bout politics"

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by fasbat(m): 5:42am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
This thread is to enlighten people with respect to the status of the House of Representative Speakership.
Earlier today, after reading this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2361982/speakership-gbajabiamila-wins-apc-primaries, lots of people had the false impression that Hon Femi Gbajabiamila has been elected Speaker of the Federal House of Representative. Some supporters of Hon Gbajabiamila are even celebrating, chanting victory songs and calling Hon Dongara to sheath his sword.
The status is that there is NO Speaker-elect of Federal House of Representative as at today 06/06/2015.

How The Speaker is Chosen:
The Constitution is very clear on how House of Representative Speaker is to emerge. According to Section 50(1b)
"There shall be a Speaker and a Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, who shall be elected by the members of that House from among themselves.
The position of the law is that the Speaker of the House and his/her Deputy are to emerge by election, and only members of the house irrespective of party affiliation are eligible to stand as candidate(s) and also participate in the voting process. As at today, no such election has taken place.

The Status of The "APC" Speaker Primaries
The so-called APC "Speaker" Primary election that produced Femi Gbajabiamila as Speaker is alien to the law. It has binding on no one, not even on APC members, and has no effect whatsoever in the process. Hon Gbajabiamila's emergence as Speaker of the APC promary is nothing but the "advisory" position of the party.

Can Gbajabiamila Lose The Speakership?
Absolutely YES!
APC has 214 Lawmakers in the House, PDP 121, while LP, APGA and Accord have 10 combined. Of all the APC members, 154 endorsed Gbajabiamila, 61 members boycotted the so called "primary". Hon Dogara will emerge Speaker should the pro-Dogara 61 APC legislators and the 121 PDP members vote for him(Dogara) on the day of the election irrespective of who the other 10 non PDP/APC members cast their vote for. With the adoption of a PDP candidate for the Deputy Speaker position, Ðongara will most likely get the nod of PDP contingents.

2011 Precedent:
In 2011 the PDP adopted Hon Mulikat Adeola and the party instructed all its members to vote for the Ogbomoso born Mulikat for the position. However, it was not to be as the ACN/CPC(APC) and rebellious PDP members voted against the PDP candidate, and voted Hon Saminu Tambawal instead. It won't be surprising for PDP to take their own pound of flesh by voting against the official APC nominee.

While nobody has been elected Speaker of the Federal House of Respresentative, I congratulate Hon Femi Gbajabiamila on his emergence as Speaker of Federal House of All Progressive Congress.


God Bless Us All
like ur analysis ,however Hon Dogara can never get block vote from PDP being dt Hon Gbajabiamila is well grounded and been around enough to convince PDP members on his suitability. And most importantly PDP are not happy with d role of Sen Saraki with d role he played enroute 2011 election. You can hear Hon Gbaja saying dt he is not Tinubu's candidate and stooge and dt he had to meet with Emir of Kano,Gov Aregbesola and Alhaji Atiku to convince Jagaban on his new adventure,it will be interesting how d power play will unfold on d floor on Tuesday. Regrettably,why is all d fuss about leading NASS? Money? 2019? Power? Don't just grab it! D desperation of Nig's politician is well documented! Imagine some lawmakers threatening to 'move' back to where they came from just because of power tussle in ur party? Very disheartening......

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Hammefeez: 5:59am On Jun 07, 2015
What is this one saying?

Do you know anything about politics? Absolutely No!

They call it shadow, which means every member of the house that belong to APC will oblige ti the outcome of that election and therefore must not vote against the it in the house. Any APC that against the outcome is anti-party.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by ElDeeVee(m): 6:00am On Jun 07, 2015
fasbat:
like ur analysis ,however Hon Dogara can never get block vote from PDP being dt Hon Gbajabiamila is well grounded and been around enough to convince PDP members on his suitability. You can hear Hon Gbaja saying dt he is not Tinubu's candidate and stooge and dt he had to meet with Emir of Kano,Gov Aregbesola and Alhaji Atiku to convince Jagaban on his new adventure,it will be interesting how d power play will unfold on d floor on Tuesday. Regrettably,why is all d fuss about leading NASS? Money? 2019? Power? Don't just grab it! D desperation of Nig's politician is well documented! Imagine some lawmakers threatening to 'move' back to where they came from just because of power tussle in ur party? Very disheartening......
You r funny...so you think Gbaja will openly admit he's Tinubu's puppet?? No one does that
Because of Gbaja, Tinubu wants Lawan as SP so that the NE will not feel marginalized.
But like u said, its gon b an interesting episode on tue

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by JustCalMeDBoss(m): 6:07am On Jun 07, 2015
We all know the APC primaries holds no substance. But the real questions remains will the PDP do the needful to check mate the jagaban's influence on the house since Gbajabiamila is a loyal puppy to him. Time would tell. The PDP should know a formidable opposition goes beyond words said on the media but what happens during key moments such as this. That's what destroyed them.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Waspy(m): 6:07am On Jun 07, 2015
Nigerians have bn slaves to emotions and sentiments since the days of creation. Femi is a better candidate for the post if his experience as a former minority leader counts.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by DropShot: 6:11am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
Dongara only need to be steadfast. PDP MUST support him and I hope all PDP Representatives vote for him on Tuesday.
You know very little about politics; forget the self illusion you embark on.

If Femi already has 154 speakers assured on his side, he requires just 19 more from the remaining speakers who cut across PDP, APC, APGA, and other parties. And for anyone to think that he will not get the 19 from the rest 191 speakers, the person is living in the proverbial fool's paradise.


Clerverly:
Protection Seeker, you have started again with your jaw jaw, hollow, intellectually dishonest analysis of issues, and at end of the day, you will have "shiit"and eggs thrown at your face!

Who told you, The Hausa PDP Reps, The Yoruba PDP, The absentee APC reps will all vote for Dogara?

Mr. Taniod, you better start addressing Gbaja as your speaker to enable you prepare your attack and criticism early!

Hungry Political analyst!

Gbaja has at least 90% chance of clinching it already.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by DropShot: 6:17am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
APC have no business with the Tuesday election. They won't be there to supervise nor campaign for the party's nominee.
With the 121 PDP members, Dongara need the 10 non APC/PDP members, 121 PDP legislators, and just 50 APC legislators to clinch the seat. It is possible
Which is easier?

For PDP to get 50 from APC lawmakers, all 121 PDP and 10 from other parties. Or for Gbaja to get 19 from PDP/APC?the rest?

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 6:18am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
This thread is to enlighten people with respect to the status of the House of Representative Speakership.
Earlier today, after reading this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2361982/speakership-gbajabiamila-wins-apc-primaries, lots of people had the false impression that Hon Femi Gbajabiamila has been elected Speaker of the Federal House of Representative. Some supporters of Hon Gbajabiamila are even celebrating, chanting victory songs and calling Hon Dongara to sheath his sword.
The status is that there is NO Speaker-elect of Federal House of Representative as at today 06/06/2015.

How The Speaker is Chosen:
The Constitution is very clear on how House of Representative Speaker is to emerge. According to Section 50(1b)
"There shall be a Speaker and a Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, who shall be elected by the members of that House from among themselves.
The position of the law is that the Speaker of the House and his/her Deputy are to emerge by election, and only members of the house irrespective of party affiliation are eligible to stand as candidate(s) and also participate in the voting process. As at today, no such election has taken place.

The Status of The "APC" Speaker Primaries
The so-called APC "Speaker" Primary election that produced Femi Gbajabiamila as Speaker is alien to the law. It has binding on no one, not even on APC members, and has no effect whatsoever in the process. Hon Gbajabiamila's emergence as Speaker of the APC promary is nothing but the "advisory" position of the party.

Can Gbajabiamila Lose The Speakership?
Absolutely YES!
APC has 214 Lawmakers in the House, PDP 121, while LP, APGA and Accord have 10 combined. Of all the APC members, 154 endorsed Gbajabiamila, 61 members boycotted the so called "primary". Hon Dogara will emerge Speaker should the pro-Dogara 61 APC legislators and the 121 PDP members vote for him(Dogara) on the day of the election irrespective of who the other 10 non PDP/APC members cast their vote for. With the adoption of a PDP candidate for the Deputy Speaker position, Ðongara will most likely get the nod of PDP contingents.

2011 Precedent:
In 2011 the PDP adopted Hon Mulikat Adeola and the party instructed all its members to vote for the Ogbomoso born Mulikat for the position. However, it was not to be as the ACN/CPC(APC) and rebellious PDP members voted against the PDP candidate, and voted Hon Saminu Tambawal instead. It won't be surprising for PDP to take their own pound of flesh by voting against the official APC nominee.

While nobody has been elected Speaker of the Federal House of Respresentative, I congratulate Hon Femi Gbajabiamila on his emergence as Speaker of Federal House of All Progressive Congress.


God Bless Us All
.
God. bless u 2

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by dhorlipizzu(m): 6:30am On Jun 07, 2015
ImperialYoruba:


I have left you alone to your wanderings and ignored your threads since GEJ lost election. I am responding to this one because I find it insulting that someone at your high level of academic achievement has found it abundantly rewarding to scavenge news crumbs for the end goal of retention.

I suspect you are suffering from a similar malady that your god, GEJ was afflicted with. Do me a favor, start giving broad interpretation to political events. Begin to act as an agent of expansion and growth....stop compressing and injecting caustic views into what ordinarily is dynamic and spirited.




True talk... I hope this punchline left 'em with red n black eyes

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by nonjebose(m): 6:32am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
Should PDP queue up behind Dogara and he emerges Speaker, it means PDP will have the Deputy slot and will defacto call the shots in the House, just as APC called the shots in the 7th House. This will weaken the APC and also a precursor for 2019.
You hardly make sense these days. When Mulikat lost the support of 'PDP' did that lead to APC alliance getting the deputy speakership? Your quest for deputy speakership is noted but denied. think of something else

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by conyema12(m): 6:35am On Jun 07, 2015
Clerverly:
Protection Seeker, you have started again with your jaw jaw, hollow, intellectually dishonest analysis of issues, and at end of the day, you will have "shiit"and eggs thrown at your face!

Who told you, The Hausa PDP Reps, The Yoruba PDP, The absentee APC reps will all vote for Dogara?

Mr. Taniod, you better start addressing Gbaja as your speaker to enable you prepare your attack and criticism early!

Hungry Political analyst!


Bros kindly cool down, read and absorb the lucid analysis done by the guy.
The only election that can see Gbaja as the speaker is the only conducted by all the members irrespective of the party affiliation.
so long as there is over 60 members that doesn't support the Femi guy, he is not to start celebrating yet.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by telad(m): 6:43am On Jun 07, 2015
As much as lots of people might called the APC primary advance imposition, I call it political strategy.
Dongaro's camp are not newbies in Nigeria politics, they should have expected election at such a critical time. The fact that most of his loyalists boycotted the said meeting/election shows that they foresee an election holding.
That said, I think Dongaro still has a chance against Gbajabiamila, the PDP who are mostly from SS/SE might want to go for the former. Femi might also be able to lobby some of Dan loyalist n PDP members.

Its still open but dependent on what each is able to do underg in the next 24hrs. APC might win, but can be close.
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 6:47am On Jun 07, 2015
grin

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by arent88(m): 6:58am On Jun 07, 2015
conyema12:


Bros kindly cool down, read and absorb the lucid analysis done by the guy.
The only election that can see Gbaja as the speaker is the only conducted by all the members irrespective of the party affiliation.
so long as there is over 60 members that doesn't support the Femi guy, he is not to start celebrating yet.
what is lucid about the anaylsis he carried out.only a toddler would celebrate gbaja as speaker elect when we all knw apc just carried out a mock election so as to present a consensus candidate on tuesday.what i see up there are permutations by someone who hasnt still learnt from the last election that politics is more than just 1+1.does he have insider knwledge abt happenings in the national assembly i doubt so.dnt be suprised come tuesday some pdp members will vote for gbaja or even dogara might drop his ambition.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by ozo13(m): 6:59am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
APC have no business with the Tuesday election. They won't be there to supervise nor campaign for the party's nominee.
With the 121 PDP members, Dongara need the 10 non APC/PDP members, 121 PDP legislators, and just 50 APC legislators to clinch the seat. It is possible
I do hope u will come back here Tuesday night and analyze d way u promised that day before d presidential election, wr u gave biscuit analysis that APC can Neva win d southwest in d presidential election. Dream on boss.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:06am On Jun 07, 2015
Clerverly:
Protection Seeker, you have started again with your jaw jaw, hollow, intellectually dishonest analysis of issues, and at end of the day, you will have "shiit"and eggs thrown at your face!

Who told you, The Hausa PDP Reps, The Yoruba PDP, The absentee APC reps will all vote for Dogara?

Mr. Taniod, you better start addressing Gbaja as your speaker to enable you prepare your attack and criticism early!

Hungry Political analyst!

Ngeneukwuenu, why are you having issues with the messenger and not the message. I'm sure you are a failure in your real life because you still have identity crises to deal with.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by networkrecharg: 7:14am On Jun 07, 2015
RT. HON. GBAJABIAMILA FEMI.
HE IS A LAGISIAN...
WORTHY AND CONPETENT.

THE BAUCHI BORN IS JUST TRYING TO USE NORTHERN BORN TO RULE PARTERN

BUHARI IS FROM THE NORTH.
LAWAN FROM D NORTH SEEKING SENATE PRESIDENCY.

PLEASE ALLOW GBAJABIAMILA BE OUR SPEAKER

Clerverly:
Protection Seeker, you have started again with your jaw jaw, hollow, intellectually dishonest analysis of issues, and at end of the day, you will have "shiit"and eggs thrown at your face!

Who told you, The Hausa PDP Reps, The Yoruba PDP, The absentee APC reps will all vote for Dogara?

Mr. Taniod, you better start addressing Gbaja as your speaker to enable you prepare your attack and criticism early!

Hungry Political analyst!

Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by conyema12(m): 7:15am On Jun 07, 2015
arent88:
what is lucid about the anaylsis he carried out.only a toddler would celebrate gbaja as speaker elect when we all knw apc just carried out a mock election so as to present a consensus candidate on tuesday.what i see up there are permutations by someone who hasnt still learnt from the last election that politics is more than just 1+1.does he have insider knwledge abt happenings in the national assembly i doubt so.dnt be suprised come tuesday some pdp members will vote for gbaja or even dogara might drop his ambition.

Exactly Bro.
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:22am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
APC have no business with the Tuesday election. They won't be there to supervise nor campaign for the party's nominee.
[s]With the 121 PDP members, Dongara need the 10 non APC/PDP members, 121 PDP legislators, and just 50 APC legislators to clinch the seat. It is possible[/s]


All these ur permutations are just T H E O R Y.
How sure are u of the unity of the 121 PDP.
All these men are there for 4 their selfish interest. No common interest.
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:29am On Jun 07, 2015
I don't know why APC trolls are getting themselves unnecessarily angry at the original post. Nowhere in the article did I say "Dogara will emerge Speaker". I only stated the possibility of Dogara emerging Speaker. I'm not so dumb to understand the politics of the National Assembly. However, Dogara need to be resolute, reach of to pro-Gbaja's members, secure the PDP bloc and he's good to go.

Should Dogara emerge Speaker it will be a huge step to victory for PDP
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:32am On Jun 07, 2015
kenonze:



All these ur permutations are just T H E O R Y.
How sure are u of the unity of the 121 PDP.
All these men are there for 4 their selfish interest. No common interest.
yes! Most of the 121 PDP representatives are from Ekiti, Ondo, South South and South East. These people will not play the APC card.
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:38am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
yes! Most of the 121 PDP representatives are from Ekiti, Ondo, South South and South East. These people will not play the APC card.


Do u know them?,
Are you certain where there loyalty lies?
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:39am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
I don't know why APC trolls are getting themselves unnecessarily angry at the original post. Nowhere in the article did I say "Dogara will emerge Speaker". I only stated the possibility of Dogara emerging Speaker. I'm not so dumb to understand the politics of the National Assembly. However, Dogara need to be resolute, reach of to pro-Gbaja's members, secure the PDP bloc and he's good to go.

Should Dogara emerge Speaker it will be a huge step to victory for PDP

If PDP decide to give Dogara block vote, they will only be doing Buhari and d North a big favour. The truth is dat Gbajabiamala is more likely to oppose Buhari than Dogara. If i am Buhari, i will secretly wish Dogara wins.
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:39am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
I don't know why APC trolls are getting themselves unnecessarily angry at the original post. Nowhere in the article did I say "Dogara will emerge Speaker". I only stated the possibility of Dogara emerging Speaker. I'm not so dumb to understand the politics of the National Assembly. However, Dogara need to be resolute, reach of to pro-Gbaja's members, secure the PDP bloc and he's good to go.

Should Dogara emerge Speaker it will be a huge step to victory for PDP

If PDP decide to give Dogara block vote, they will only be doing Buhari and d North a big favour. The truth is dat Gbajabiamala is more likely to oppose Buhari than Dogara. If i am Buhari, i will secretly wish Dogara wins. And Dogara will be loyal to APC even if most of his votes comes from PDP.
Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:40am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
yes! Most of the 121 PDP representatives are from Ekiti, Ondo, South South and South East. These people will not play the APC card.

If PDP decide to give Dogara block vote, they will only be doing
Buhari and d North a big favour. The truth is dat Gbajabiamala is
more likely to oppose Buhari than Dogara. If i am Buhari, i will
secretly wish Dogara wins. And Dogara will be loyal to APC even
if most of his votes comes from PDP

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by Nobody: 7:42am On Jun 07, 2015
barcanista:
I don't know why APC trolls are getting themselves unnecessarily angry at the original post. Nowhere in the article did I say "Dogara will emerge Speaker". I only stated the possibility of Dogara emerging Speaker. I'm not so dumb to understand the politics of the National Assembly. However, Dogara need to be resolute, reach of to pro-Gbaja's members, secure the PDP bloc and he's good to go.

Should Dogara emerge Speaker it will be a huge step to victory for PDP

I think you are being Myopic to believe emergence of dogara will favour PDP. i bliv d North is playing a smart one.

If PDP decide to give Dogara block vote, they will only be doing
Buhari and d North a big favour. The truth is dat Gbajabiamala is
more likely to oppose Buhari than Dogara. If i am Buhari, i will
secretly wish Dogara wins. And Dogara will be loyal to APC even
if most of his votes comes from PDP.

In d case of Tambuwal and Jonathan, Tambuwal only opposed Jonathan because he is from North west. And for him to be love in Sokoto and bcome governor, he knew he can only get that by opposing Jonathan. And it work for him.

In d case of dogara, he will work in d general interest of d North. which will be giving Buhari all d support he needs.

d PDP reps are not stupid enough to support Dogara. because Gbajabiamala with favour PDP more. because when Southwest have issue will Buhari in d future, they will use Gbajabiamala alongside PDP members to fustrate Buhari.

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Re: The Status Of Federal House Of Representatives Speakership by focus7: 7:47am On Jun 07, 2015
One thing I have learn about barcanista is that one should never allow hate, grudge, bitterness, unforgiveness, vengeance mix with his existence. Ever since the unglorious defection of barcanista because of quest for security his political senses is overwhelm with resentment and as a result all his politica analyses and predictions have been off key.

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