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Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Nobody: 8:47am On Jul 01, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: Did you say he didn't legalize gay marriage? Yeah he didn't. The same way Pilate did not kill Jesus. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Nobody: 9:27am On Jul 01, 2015 |
Iwonimi: No...the post was largely for informative purposes.It was not meant to indicate my opinion...whether for or against....for gay marriage. In this case....Obama did not sign a law legalizing gay marriage across America....as that would have violated the concept of federalism as the Americans understand it.(It must be pointed out Obama approves of gay marriage....at least right now';in 2008 he was opposed to it.). What happened was that a gay man approached the Supreme Court to get his state to recognize his gay marriage....and the Supreme court in essence found that the Constitution of the US guarantees his right to gay marriage.....ie they made a judgement as to the intent of the Constitution.(Which is what the Supreme Court of the US usually does....sometimes). Which leads us to a major problem in American society...whether the Supreme Court in making such judgements is legislating from the bench...so to speak. |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by knight05(m): 9:30am On Jul 01, 2015 |
that's all I got to say |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Nobody: 9:37am On Jul 01, 2015 |
smurfy: For Obama to legalise gay marriage....he would have to have a gay marriage law to sign....which would have to be approved by both the House and the Senate.The House is controlled by Republicans....who oppose gay marriage . The Senate is controlled by Democrats...who mostly support gay marriage...a few may be against. So far....no such law has been approved by Congress for signing by Obama.....and it won't get out of Congress if it would. Then there is the issue of American federalism. Laws in America cannot just automatically apply to all the 50 states.....each state has its set of laws. The problem you have is that you think that America is like Nigeria. It isn't.States in America have more power and leeway than your average Nigerian States.Ideally....for a gay marriage law to be passed in America...it has to also be approved by 2/3RD's of the state Assemblies...and as at last month....over 30 states were opposed to gay marriage....5 had approved. So,for gays...their last hope so to speak was the Supreme Court.In essence....the court had to find that the American Constitution guaranteed a right to personal dignity....and such dignity guarantees a right to gay marriage for anyone who wants it. Which is what five out of the nine Supreme Court judges found. My original post was for informative purposes BTW.....NOT to indicate pro- or anti-gay agenda. |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Nobody: 10:03am On Jul 01, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: You seem to underplay leadership in its true meaning. Before this bill passed 4-3 (or 5-4: can't remember the exact right ratio right now). Obama's stand on gay marriage was 'mumbled', but now that a majority of US Supreme Court justices voted in favour of it his support for gay rights is now unequivocal. My submission is that his rhetorical approval of it carries a lot of weight as the most powerful man on earth (that's according to Americans sha) and he's definitely not blameless. My submission has nothing to do with you though. As a Nigerian, I'm almost sure you're against it. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by elampiro(m): 11:35am On Jul 01, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: - On May 9, 2012, Barack Obama became the first sitting U.S. president to publicly declare support for the legalization of same-sex marriage. - Before Obama became the President of America, only 2 states (Massachusetts May 2004 and Connecticut Nov 2008) legalized same sex marriage. California issued license to same sex couple briefly in 2008, but stopped it after 5 months. - On November 6, 2012, Maine, Maryland, and Washington became the first states to legalize same-sex marriage through popular vote. -Before this ruling by supreme court legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide, same sex marriage had been legalized in 36 states. This means 34 states legalized same sex marriage under Obama administration. -This is Obama's agenda. Without Obama as the president, this wouldn't have succeeded. |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by elampiro(m): 11:52am On Jul 01, 2015 |
It was under Obama administration senate approved a bill legalizing bestaility in the military. |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Nobody: 11:56am On Jul 01, 2015 |
elampiro: While Obama is approving of same sex marriage.....decisions by individual states to legalise or recognise same sex marriage are the states alone. In other words this would have happened even if Obama was opposed to same sex marriage. Again....America is less centralized than Nigeria. Modified: .... The legal issues surrounding same-sex marriage in the United States are determined by the nation's federal system of government, in which the status of a person, including marital status, is determined in large measure by the individual states. Prior to 1996, the federal government did not define marriage; any marriage recognized by a state was recognized by the federal government, even if that marriage was not recognized by one or more states, as was the case until 1967 with interracial marriage which some states banned by statute. Civil same-sex marriage ceremony being performed in San Francisco City Hall in June 2008. Prior to 2004, same-sex marriage was not performed in any U.S. jurisdiction. It was subsequently legalized in different jurisdictions through legislation, court rulings,[57] tribal council rulings,[58] and popular vote in referenda.[59][60][61] The Supreme Court's ruling in Obergefell renders moot any remaining legal challenges, as it specifically orders states to both issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, and to recognize as valid marriages performed in other states.[62] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States#Legal_issues |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by elampiro(m): 12:11pm On Jul 01, 2015 |
bushdoc9919: What we are saying is that Obama's support and public declaration pushed this agenda through. Same-sex marriage, bestaility and legalized marijuana. We dont even need to quote his numerous speech canvassing for legalization of gay marriage. Even using threat. |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by elampiro(m): 12:22pm On Jul 01, 2015 |
Obama is currently urging religion houses to change their teachings to accept same-sex marriage. He also is threatening taxing them if they dont comply with same-sex marriage celebration. |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Nobody: 12:38pm On Jul 01, 2015 |
Iwonimi:Sorry am a woman. |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by elampiro(m): 12:40pm On Jul 01, 2015 |
Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military NOVEMBER 4, 2013 The repeal of the U.S. military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy was hailed by lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) activists as a supreme victory for the Obama administration in September. But now, those outraged by the repeal say they are further angered by the revision of yet another military technicality. As Stars and Stripes is reporting, White House and Pentagon officials have fielded uncomfortable queries on whether they are working to decriminalize sex with animals as part of efforts to update the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Interestingly, Congress is reportedly poised to remove the only specific reference to bestiality in the UCMJ, though officials say its removal is merely a legal technicality and does not represent any fundamental change for servicemembers and, by extension, service animals, the publication reports. The text in question to be repealed reads: a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. Among those who expressed their distaste in the removal were members of the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), who allege White House officials are not considering the seriousness of the matter. “Our office has been flooded with calls from Americans who are upset that this ban has been repealed — and for good reason,” officials wrote in a letter to White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, according to Politico . “As we outlined in the attached letter sent yesterday to the secretary of defense, animal abuse does not affect animals only — it is also a matter of public safety, as people who abuse animals very often go on to abuse human beings.” Not surprisingly, conservative pundits were also among the dissenting voices. Having already slammed the Obama administration for “using the military to advance [its] radical social agenda,” Family Research Council President Tony Perkins told CNSNews.com , “Well, whether it was inadvertent or not, they have also taken out the provision against bestiality. So now, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), there’s nothing there to prosecute bestiality.” Join the Discussion http://www.independentamericanparty.org/2013/11/senate-approves-bill-that-legalizes-sodomy-and-bestiality-in-u-s-military/
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Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by apolonius(m): 1:44pm On Jul 01, 2015 |
Let Afrocandy send Michelle Obama a proposal too! |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by otiigba1(m): 5:22pm On Jul 01, 2015 |
Mind bogling |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jul 01, 2015 |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Setaje(f): 8:57am On Jul 02, 2015 |
Re: Nigerians Tear Twitter Apart Over Mugabe Marriage Proposal To Barrack by Nobody: 9:00am On Jul 03, 2015 |
......and people don't still that the coming of the lord is near. watch and pray. |
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