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How To Stump An Atheist... by winner01(m): 5:09pm On Jul 03, 2015
THE BIG QUESTION

Ask an atheist or free thinker if he or she believes in the existence of aliens? If they answer, "no," then ask them how do they know that? Have they gone to all the other galaxies throughout the universe? The truth is that no atheist can reasonably deny the existence of alien life. To do so would be utter ignorance.
If an atheist answers, "yes," then they have contradicted their claim that there is no God. Is not God an Alien? By every definition of the word, God is an alien, i.e., He is not of this earth. For an atheist to profess believe is alien life, while simultaneously denying the existence of God, is utter hypocrisy and foolishness.




PROOF OF ALIEN LIFE

The Scriptures do not teach the existence of alien life in the sense of invading Martians, alien abductions, or close encounters, as seen by Hollywood; however, angels, demons, and Heaven's hosts are definitely alien to mankind.
No person can honestly claim to be an atheist. To do so is
to deny the existence of alien life, and who can honestly say that they've explored the entire universe? Can any human know what exists in all the galaxies of the universe? Scientists used to estimate that there were 50,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe; BUT, with the launch of the Hubble Space Telescope , astronomers now say that there are over 200,000,000,000 galaxies in the universe, and some scientists have claimed as many as 500,000,000,000!!!

It is contradictory for any Atheist to profess a belief in the existence of alien life (or at least the possibility thereof); while simultaneously denying the existence of God. If you believe that aliens may exist, then you certainly must concede that
one of those aliens may be God.




ALIENS; YES...................GOD; NO

Perhaps some atheists will agree to the existence of alien life, but deny the God of the Bible; however, how do they know
that? Was the Bible written by men alone? The Bible came about by absolutely impossible circumstances.
How could 40 men, over an extended time period of 1,500 years, with differing personalities, from different nations, write 66 separate Books that all perfectly harmonize in meaning and Biblical prophecy? The only answer is Divine intervention!
Could not an alien life form be God, man's Creator? Some
TV shows and movies have alluded that alien gods
constructed the Egyptian pyramids, and millions of people
believe this nonsense, whereas the Bible teaches that
slave Israelites built the treasure cities of Pithom and Raamses for Pharaoh (Exodus 1:11).
Evidence shows that it was mankind, and not aliens, that built the Pyramids of Egypt. I actually say "nonsense" because there is NO evidence whatsoever of such radical claims. Yet, the
same people who believe such nonsense, absolutely refuse
to even consider that there is a Holy and Just God in Heaven, who Authored the Bible, and created mankind for His own pleasure (Revelation 4:11). Nature itself is solid
proof of the existence of God (Romans 1:20).




SIMPLE LOGIC

So whether an Atheist believes in alien life or not is irrelevant to the fact that no one can say with any certainty that God does not exist. This logical reasoning proves that there is no such thing as a TRUE Atheist, only those who choose to reside in
their ignorance of something they do not know for certain. Any honest person must admit that there could be a God.
The fact that Atheists refuse to even consider thepossibility that God exists is self-incriminating evidence against them, because they are willingly ignorant of the possibility that alien life may exist in the universe or beyond.




GOD, AN ALIEN

Simply put, God is an alien from another dimension of time and space (eternity), and most people won't have anything to do with Him because he is a holy (morally perfect) God. If you are desperately hoping to find alien life, then open your Bible and
meet your Maker. For He is the Author of the universe which contains an unknown number of galaxies. The over 200,000,000,000 discovered galaxies, which contains billions of
stars themselves, the Bible teaches that God spoke them all into existence on the 4th day of creation. That's not difficult for me to believe.
But what is difficult for me to accept is the insane notion that the universe JUST HAPPENED, by a big chaotic explosion, which somehow settled into incredible order, stability and awesome wonder.




WHAT ABOUT SPIRITS?

And where did man's spirit come from in the evolutionary process if such a process exists? Why do animals not have spirits that seek after God, knowing evil from good? Man's moral
aspects are proof of a Supreme moral Being Who created man upright, but sin ruined everything.
Ecclesiastes 7:20 and 29, “For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not. ... Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.”
Just as man has a spirit in the image of God, God is also a Spirit (John 4:24), and if we are to truly worship God, then we absolutely MUST worship Him in SPIRIT and in TRUTH. How tragic that so many people attempt to worship God with
statues, organized religion, rituals and ceremonies; but they don't know God's Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit of Jesus Christ (Romans 8:9). Jesus Christ is the manifestation, i.e., the
revelation, of the GODHEAD (Acts 17:29; Romans 1:20; Colossians 2:9 — King James Bible ) to the world (1st Timothy 3:16; John 1:10). God is a Sprit, and as such we couldn't comprehend or even begin to understand the greatness of Who
God really is. Psalm 145:3, “Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; and his greatness is unsearchable.”




PROOF OF GOD'S WORD

The Bible is God's inspired Word (2nd Timothy 3:16). There is
overwhelming, concrete, verifiable and abundant evidence to prove this TRUTH. The very manner in which the Bible was assembled—penned by 40 different writers used of God, all from umpteen different nations, having lived over a 1,500-year span, is evidence enough that what I say is true. It is astronomically impossible for such odds as this to be mere chance. The Bible wasn't written by one man, nor by a group of men at one time.
God purposely gave us the Bible piece by piece, man by man, nation by nation, century by century, so that we could plainly see that it is supernatural in origin. Over 5,000 manuscripts have been unearthed of various portions of the Bible over the
past two centuries. Clearly, this is no ordinary Book we are dealing with. The Bible is God's Word. Only a willingly blind fool would dogmatically deny the existence of God, or that the Bible is God's Word.




Clearly, Atheists are biased against the Truth of God’s Word, without any logical reason or justification for their prejudice. Logic dictates that alien life certainly may exist, and that means
God.

So the next time someone tells you that they don't believe
in God... ask them if they believe in alien life?

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by Hero10001: 5:17pm On Jul 03, 2015
Hmmm, ose bami. Wa gbayi!

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by keeptalkin(m): 5:23pm On Jul 03, 2015
it all crap you wrote up there

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 5:26pm On Jul 03, 2015
Ok what you term god is just an alien life form from another planet. . . Good for you then. . it then shows that it was not an omniscient, omnipotent being then. just another life form living in its own planet with its own kind while you waste your time worshipping an alien that don't know you exist... lol... Since ur god is a life form in its own dimension and i am a life form in my own dimension. can we all now just mind our dimensions. why start worshipping another type of life form. . . lmao..this is funny,

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by menesheh(m): 5:35pm On Jul 03, 2015
winner01:
THE BIG QUESTION

Ask an atheist or free thinker if he or she believes in the existence of aliens? If they answer, "no," then ask them how do they know that? Have they gone to all the other galaxies throughout the universe? The truth is that no atheist can reasonably deny the existence of alien life. To do so would be utter ignorance.
If an atheist answers, "yes," then they have contradicted their claim that there is no God. Is not God an Alien? By every definition of the word, God is an alien, i.e., He is not of this earth. For an atheist to profess believe is alien life, while simultaneously denying the existence of God, is utter hypocrisy and foolishness.





Some peepz here don't know what's atheism. How dare you think in your young mind that all atheist knew what aliens means let alone believing it.


Science not atheists laid the thesis of alien life because of the probability of its existence. Not really that they've seen one or absolutely convinced that alien life exist.


You've just wasted your precious time posting crap

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by plaetton: 5:36pm On Jul 03, 2015
That life exists outside Earth is a very very strong statistical probability. It does not require belief or non belief. Get that clear.

The existence of alien life having evolved on planets in the vast universe makes perfect sense for Anyone with common sense appreciation of the vastness of the universe and of time.
Therefore, the presence of alien life would more likely confirm the theory of evolution, than contradict refute it.

God, on the hand, is believed to be the Creator, alone, of the universe. Thats a Totally different idea than the mere existence of different lifeforms outside of Earth.

I agree with you, and have agued before, that the bible gods and the gods of ancient civilizations were most likely advanced alien beings who probably genetically engineered(what You call creation) pre existing homo habilis or neantherthal species to modern homo sapien sapiens(thinking humans).

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by An2elect2(f): 5:37pm On Jul 03, 2015
I don't need to puzzle anybody...they have the wonders of creation staring at them every second of their lives...if those are not enough, they have their troubled minds to contend with.

Case lowered#

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by winner01(m): 8:11pm On Jul 03, 2015
johnydon22:
Ok what you term god is just an alien life form from another planet. . . Good for you then. . it then shows that it was not an omniscient, omnipotent being then. just another life form living in its own planet with its own kind while you waste your time worshipping an alien that don't know you exist... lol... Since ur god is a life form in its own dimension and i am a life form in my own dimension. can we all now just mind our dimensions. why start worshipping another type of life form. . . lmao..this is funny,
Read again, slowly this time. maybe ull have some understanding

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by winner01(m): 8:14pm On Jul 03, 2015
menesheh:


Some peepz here don't know what's atheism. How dare you think in your young mind that all atheist knew what aliens means let alone believing it.


Science not atheists laid the thesis of alien life because of the probability of its existence. Not really that they've seen one or absolutely convinced that alien life exist.


You've just wasted your precious time posting crap
Alien simply put, means strange or extremely unusual.....I might need to ask how old are you..
Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by onetrack(m): 8:18pm On Jul 03, 2015
winner01:
THE BIG QUESTION

Ask an atheist or free thinker if he or she believes in the existence of aliens? If they answer, "no," then ask them how do they know that? Have they gone to all the other galaxies throughout the universe? The truth is that no atheist can reasonably deny the existence of alien life. To do so would be utter ignorance.
If an atheist answers, "yes," then they have contradicted their claim that there is no God. Is not God an Alien? By every definition of the word, God is an alien, i.e., He is not of this earth. For an atheist to profess believe is alien life, while simultaneously denying the existence of God, is utter hypocrisy and foolishness.


Most atheists I know will say 'I don't know' if there is alien life elsewhere. Until there is solid proof, I don't believe one way or another. Same with any god. I don't know if any god exists or how many there might be, but I see no solid evidence of any particular god's existence.

The Bible, with all its errors and contradictions, is a man-made book collected over several centuries by various 'church fathers' by general agreement and not by some god dropping from the sky.

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by winner01(m): 8:18pm On Jul 03, 2015
An2elect2:
I don't need to puzzle anybody...they have the wonders of creation staring at them every second of their lives...if those are not enough, they have their troubled minds to contend with.

Case lowered#
True
Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:22pm On Jul 03, 2015
God is not a God of earth but of all universe . Trust me , earth is just one of His many creations in the universe . There is life in planets far way from us that make use of totally different sources of energy from the ones we have . Different weather , natural systems etc .

But very soon , again trust me , we will be in harmony with all distant planets and alien life forms . A new experience smiley. That time is closer than we think smiley

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:29pm On Jul 03, 2015
johnydon22:
Ok what you term god is just an alien life form from another planet. . . Good for you then. . it then shows that it was not an omniscient, omnipotent being then. just another life form living in its own planet with its own kind while you waste your time worshipping an alien that don't know you exist... lol... Since ur god is a life form in its own dimension and i am a life form in my own dimension. can we all now just mind our dimensions. why start worshipping another type of life form. . . lmao..this is funny,

Bia Johnny , this comment is embarrassing undecided , you know its not a must to comment grin

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:32pm On Jul 03, 2015
onetrack:


Most atheists I know will say 'I don't know' if there is alien life elsewhere. Until there is solid proof, I don't believe one way or another. Same with any god. I don't know if any god exists or how many there might be, but I see no solid evidence of any particular god's existence.

The Bible, with all its errors and contradictions, is a man-made book collected over several centuries by various 'church fathers' by general agreement and not by some god dropping from the sky.

Lol @ bold . Time will come , don't worry wink
Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 8:35pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Bia Johnny , this comment is embarrassing undecided , you know its not a must to comment grin

You deh madt ni?undecided. . . the guy reduced his god concept to an alien life from somewhere in the universe, so it is then rational to agree that he terms another life form that exist somewhere in a distant galaxy a god of which i see no need to because both we humans and the supposed life form share the same universe therefore are products of the same universe, why then is he asking me to worship another life form somewhere, naaaah i'd rather let them worship me instead.… … … I think you should have taken it up with him for dragging ur god concept to the scope of a life form existing in another galaxy

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:37pm On Jul 03, 2015
If aliens genetically engineered humans , who genetically engineered theirs? Who did those , who did theirs? It goes on in infinitum , I guess

grin

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by menesheh(m): 8:39pm On Jul 03, 2015
winner01:
Alien simply put, means strange or extremely unusual.....I might need to ask how old are you..



Am 32, need more check my dp. Ain't anonymous here.


Anything the problem
Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 8:43pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
If aliens genetically engineered humans , who genetically engineered theirs? Who did those , who did theirs? It goes on in infinitum , I guess

grin
Exactly the point, if the alleged god created humans, then what created god, it means another god must have which in turn means another god must have created that god. It goes on in a chain of infinite regress cheesy just like you postulated above, now you are getting the point smiley

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 8:45pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:

Lol @ bold . Time will come , don't worry wink
Hehehehehehe thats what every other religion say cool

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by plaetton: 8:46pm On Jul 03, 2015
An2elect2:
I don't need to puzzle anybody...they have the wonders of creation staring at them every second of their lives...if those are not enough, they have their troubled minds to contend with.

Case lowered#

Well, if you could also show us an uncreated universe staring us in the face, then we might be able compare and then perhaps appreciate the wonders of your so called creation staring us in the face.

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:47pm On Jul 03, 2015
johnydon22:


You deh madt ni?undecided. . . the guy reduced his god concept to an alien life from somewhere in the universe, so it is then rational to agree that he terms another life form that exist somewhere in a distant galaxy a god of which i see no need to because both we humans and the supposed life form share the same universe therefore are products of the same universe, why then is he asking me to worship another life form somewhere, naaaah i'd rather let them worship me instead.… … … I think you should have taken it up with him for dragging ur god concept to the scope of a life form existing in another galaxy

I applaud people who go extra mile to explain God's nature - he did that - but your comment was a big no ! As far as God is superior , whatever He wants you to do , you should.

I don't totally agree with a few points he made and I think people should quit bothering themselves about God's nature cos its beyond human comprehension .

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by onetrack(m): 8:53pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Lol @ bold . Time will come , don't worry wink

We've been waiting for how many thousand years? cheesy
Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by plaetton: 8:53pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
If aliens genetically engineered humans , who genetically engineered theirs? Who did those , who did theirs? It goes on in infinitum , I guess

grin
You didn't get the part where I mentioned " may have genetically engineered modern humans from pre existing hominids".
That makes perfect scientific sense, if you understand genetic similarities between humans and other apes.

" male and female created he them, and called them Adam ".
Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 8:56pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


I applaud people who go extra mile to explain God's nature - he did that - but your comment was a big no ! As far as God is superior , whatever He wants you to do , you should.
Since he dragged it down the scope of another life form i don't see why i should bother myself with what a life form in another planet thinks...its like saying that maybe some other life forms in another planet be bothering themselves with what humans think and regard humans as gods. . . This goes along to drag the Vikings concept into play, postulating that gods are powerful humanoids that lives in one of the nine realms of the cosmos.(viking mythology)


I don't totally agree with a few points he made and I think people should quit bothering themselves about God's nature cos its beyond human comprehension .
This is exactly the point, you say its beyond human comprehension then yet again turn around and tell me what you think he wants from me, how dah heck did you know since it is beyond human comprehension. . in fact how dah heck did you even know there is one since its existence is beyond human comprehension. . .wink

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:01pm On Jul 03, 2015
johnydon22:
Exactly the point, if the alleged god created humans, then what created god, it means another god must have which in turn means another god must have created that god. It goes on in a chain of infinite regress cheesy just like you postulated above, now you are getting the point smiley

Lmao ... that's what wikipedia said shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin .

"God" is actually that point where there is something that nothing predates
- makes sense to me

Why?

He created time

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Time has no effect on Him , that's why He is ageless

Revelation 1:8
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Understand who Christians call "God" and why we call Him the Almighty , everlasting etc first , before saying your mind

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by johnydon22(m): 9:08pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:

Lmao ... that's what wikipedia said shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin .
- makes sense to me
Why?
He created time
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Time has no effect on Him , that's why He is ageless
Revelation 1:8
Understand who Christians call "God" and why we call Him the Almighty , everlasting etc first , before saying your mind
[b]You see, you just spelled out a bunch of crap hewn from a book written by ancient jews to postulate your concept of god. . .I have no problem with that.

That then is the time i tell you to substantiate your claim, prove your claim because reading something from a book doesn't make it true. . Vikings believe theirs exactly same way you believe yours. . .Your belief doesn't make it true. . . i would expect that a god powerful enough to have created the universe wouldn't have been so invisible to be confined only to the pages of a book, thats sheer degrading.

You have made these claims without substantiating them just like other religions have made theirs without any substantiation. . .So once you cannot back up your claim with proof, it is as good as nothing and remains just a claim.

Again since you asserted your god just existed without another god creating it, haven't you shown that something can exist without being created. why then do you keep insisting the universe must require a creator?..
[/b]

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:22pm On Jul 03, 2015
plaetton:

You didn't get the part where I mentioned " may have genetically engineered modern humans from pre existing hominids".


I get that part and I totally agree with you

Most "gods" were actually aliens that came to earth but not necessarily to genetically engineer humans as you pointed out but for something else I have not yet deciphered .

Ive watched lots of youtube videos on that . Mystery airstrips , drawings of astronomers far back before civilization started, found in South American countries

That makes perfect scientific sense, if you understand genetic similarities between humans and other apes.

Just similarity . Some atheist scientists use @ bold as a way of supporting the evolution theory

" male and female created he them, and called them Adam ".

Most theistic evolutionists believe the above quote was that point man became Homo sapiens .

I actually thought of that but how can you explain the aliens' origin of existence . Do other life forms exist in their planets ? If so , then an ultimate designer is responsible for that .

Someone started it where nothing came before Him - that's God.

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:33pm On Jul 03, 2015
johnydon22:

[b]You see, you just spelled out a bunch of crap hewn from a book written by ancient jews to postulate your concept of god. . .I have no problem with that.

That then is the time i tell you to substantiate your claim, prove your claim because reading something from a book doesn't make it true. . Vikings believe theirs exactly same way you believe yours. . .Your belief doesn't make it true. . . i would expect that a god powerful enough to have created the universe wouldn't have been so invisible to be confined only to the pages of a book, thats sheer degrading.

You have made these claims without substantiating them just like other religions have made theirs without any substantiation. . .So once you cannot back up your claim with proof, it is as good as nothing and remains just a claim.

Again since you asserted your god just existed without another god creating it, haven't you shown that something can exist without being created. why then do you keep insisting the universe must require a creator?..
[/b]

thank God you noted the "make sense to me " part

I pointed out sometime that God's qualities are beyond being a creator , supreme being . And I dont want to make that move again.

And not just the universe but life as it is . There's the supernatural ...
Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by plaetton: 9:47pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:



I get that part and I totally agree with you

Most "gods" were actually aliens that came to earth but not necessarily to genetically engineer humans as you pointed out but for something else I have not yet deciphered .

Ive watched lots of youtube videos on that . Mystery airstrips , drawings of astronomers far back before civilization started, found in South American countries



Just similarity . Some atheist scientists use @ bold as a way of supporting the evolution theory



Most theistic evolutionists believe the above quote was that point man became Homo sapiens .

I actually thought of that but how can you explain the aliens' origin of existence . Do other life forms exist in their planets ? If so , then an ultimate designer is responsible for that .

Someone started it where nothing came before Him - that's God.
Obviously the existence of aliens does not demand that another must have created them.
No.
It only confirms that the universe itself is filled with the ingredients of life , and that under the right combination of factors, biological life can and does emerge and evolve.

As it is above, so is it below.
As it is in heaven, so it is on Earth.

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by Nobody: 10:07pm On Jul 03, 2015
U knw what?

Its a matter of time. Everything will reveal itself. And however,whatever,wherever i find my self after i die, SO BE IT.
Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:56pm On Jul 03, 2015
plaetton:

Obviously the existence of aliens does not demand that another must have created them.
No.
It only confirms that the universe itself is filled with the ingredients of your , and that under the right combination of factors, biological life can and does emerge and evolve.

Ingredients from where ?

Where do matter, gases come from?

Can something come from nothing? (Isn't that magic?) ... where does that emptiness or nothingness you just imagined come from What caused nothing to bring forth something?

Why can we see the sun , moon , stars , heavenly bodies but not air . Why can we feel or experience some(gravity) but can't see it? Why are there disparities in their nature ?

A part of mormon cosmology made me understand this - God made the non-physical or spiritual physical by His word.

As it is above, so is it below.
As it is in heaven, so it is on Earth.

Lol . The god-could-be-an-alien( the alien you have in mind not op's) theory only works with very very few verses of the bible. tongue

Why would an alien choose the "godliness" in a human's life as a criterion for being with his kind in his planet . Not intelligence , not talent or ability , just godliness . Or why should an alien die for that godliness to be installed in humans?

There is an ultimate being whose existence or origin of ability/power cannot be explained(beyond human comprehension ) that's for sure .

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Re: How To Stump An Atheist... by plaetton: 11:21pm On Jul 03, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Ingredients from where ?

Where do matter, gases come from?

Can something come from nothing? (Isn't that magic?) ... where does that emptiness or nothingness you just imagined come from What caused nothing to bring forth something?

Why can we see the sun , moon , stars , heavenly bodies but not air . Why can we feel or experience some(gravity) but can't see it? Why are there disparities in their nature ?

A part of mormon cosmology made me understand this - God made the non-physical or spiritual physical by His word.



Lol . The god-could-be-an-alien( the alien you have in mind not op's) theory only works with very very few verses of the bible. tongue

Why would an alien choose the "godliness" in a human's life as a criterion for being with his kind in his planet . Not intelligence , not talent or ability , just godliness . Or why should an alien die for that godliness to be installed in humans?

There is an ultimate being whose existence or origin of ability/power cannot be explained(beyond human comprehension ) that's for sure .
Matter is condensed energy. Energy pervades the universe. It can neither be created nor destroyed.
Under the right conditions, atoms, molecules, compounds, etc etc are formed. Biological Life is just one additional formulation in the ceaseless interactions of matter and energy.

There is no such thing as nothing.
Event potential energy, in a state of no motion, is still something.

Therefore, energy, self-existent and in potential, burst forth in big ban.g, expanded into space, cooled, and the condensed to form particles of matter.

The rest is your science books.
No God required.

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