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Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by malvisguy212: 10:38pm On Jul 20, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Adam was created without the agency of a human father or mother because, as the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents. Such an act of creation was necessary at the beginning of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of procreation had long been in existence. Here we see God interrupting the course of nature,and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this miraculous conception a relationship that is shared by no other prophet. You keep on repeating this RUBBISH!!! In every thread you followed, can you mention the traditions were women are name in geanology ?ONLY men are name that why luke name Joseph as the LEGAL father of Jesus and NOT the biological father. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:57pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Adam didn't have a Father because he was created. Jesus has a Father because He was the only begotten Son. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:12pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Here are some quotes from your Qur'an to remind of what you've either forgotten or are ignorant of: [b]1. None can change Allah's words And don't even attempt to speculate by saying "probably" as in the opened and closed bracket phrase you put up in your lame response. Rilwayne001: I think you need to learn some etiquette on this forum otherwise you would have to go back to your Islamic section where your views will not be questioned. 1 Like |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:17pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
basilico: For the purpose of this thread we are assuming that if the Qur'an is true then Islam has to be false. It is up to their adherents to prove Islam as true but in doing so will make the Qur'an to be false. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:19pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Ken4Christ: This is the bitter pill that has to be swallowed. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:02pm On Jul 25, 2015 |
If the Qur'an is true, then Islam is false Could this be true? Can Allah's words be changed? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:55pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: In the absence of any objection to the question posed I'll assume that Allah's words cannot be changed. Why do you still believe that the gospel has been altered, do you think Allah cannot preserve His Words? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:58pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
2. Moses was given the Torah Has the Torah also been changed? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by smarthG(f): 11:24pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Holy Quoran Can someone pls make us understand what quoran 3 vs 34 says And 50 vs 23 |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by abduljabbar4(m): 1:35am On Aug 05, 2015 |
ABIOLAXYZ:Nice one. May Allah bless you sir 1 Like |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by abduljabbar4(m): 1:57am On Aug 05, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Please what's the name of that man in that video? I have been looking for his videos since |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by Nobody: 6:40am On Aug 05, 2015 |
abduljabbar4:Sheikh Dr zakir naik |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by truthman2013: 6:41am On Aug 05, 2015 |
abduljabbar4: Dr Zakir Naik .. truthman.. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by abduljabbar4(m): 7:03am On Aug 05, 2015 |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:05am On Aug 05, 2015 |
abduljabbar4: All you are doing here is patting yourselves in the back. None of you can answer the questions posed by the OP as to why Islam is false if your Qur'an is true. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by abduljabbar4(m): 3:32pm On Aug 05, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:How many answers do you want? Yo are the one that is refusing to accept the truth here |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:40pm On Aug 05, 2015 |
abduljabbar4: This is your task. 'If the Qur'an is true then Islam is false': Disprove or debunk that. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by abduljabbar4(m): 3:54pm On Aug 05, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU:Rilwayne answered you Demzzy answered you Ahmen answered you Truthman answered you. I don't answer those who spread lies against Islam |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:59pm On Aug 05, 2015 |
abduljabbar4: Can you say how they answered me precisely? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by truthman2013: 4:03pm On Aug 05, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: OLAADEGBU should simply answer these^ questions accordingly without playing games. ..truthman.n 2 Likes |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:57pm On Aug 05, 2015 |
truthman2013: You should first of all answer my questions before you open another thread to ask your own questions. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by smarthG(f): 7:08pm On Aug 05, 2015 |
Can someone pls make us understand what quoran 3 vs 34 says And 50 vs 23 Islamic scholars help out plsssss |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by truthman2013: 7:49pm On Aug 05, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Your question has been answered, mr. man. Stop shying away from the one posed at you. Simply say you can't; if you can't answer the questions. 2 Likes |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:23pm On Aug 06, 2015 |
smarthG: Let's hope that they will respond to your request. 2 Likes |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by smarthG(f): 7:11am On Aug 07, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Many of us were born into the religious believe we practice today, and because we must know what we are doing, a particular church I know. Has sent many of its members to Islamic. studies at various Islamic. Institutes. And many. Have graduated and the revelation is shocking! Many people you thing are wise, don't even know what they are doing. But its only unfortunate. God is merciful in deed. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by neocortex: 8:28am On Aug 07, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: Fortunately, if the Bible is not true as thinking individuals know, then the Quran is also a fairy tale because Quran is a mixture of the old testament and tribal folklores. Then on what basis is the Quran claiming superiority ? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:55am On Aug 11, 2015 |
truthman2013: They've given theirs, where is yours? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by Anas09: 6:46pm On Aug 13, 2015 |
Hmmmm. These Muslim are either shameless or stupid. Let me check out some points I noticed here. The King James Bible is the Only Bible which the Elizabethan language of thee, ye and thou was used. WHAT is the koran doing with thee, ye, and thou? Plagiarism. Withou judeo-christians, islam is nothing. They can't make sense without us. Mohammed or whoever read the Bible to mohammed told him that God (Yahweh) used 'US' as in 'Let us make man in Our own image' Without thinking, allah started refering to himself as we, us and our. Meanwhile he says he has no partner. Copy copy without thinking. Dump. Now in orfer to decieve nairalanders, Rilwane the islamic apologist, has impersonated the moniker of mr "Thuthman12" now he is Thruthman13. Just like their god/thiefing prophet. Fake. Talking from both sides of the mouth. 2 Likes |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:26pm On Aug 13, 2015 |
Anas09: Food for thought. 2 Likes |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:30am On Aug 15, 2015 |
neocortex: Why do you think the Bible is not true? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:32am On Aug 15, 2015 |
smarthG: What was the result of their experiment? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 4:44am On Aug 15, 2015 |
Many who claim to be Muslims and Christians do not read the Scriptures and just speak based on what they've been told. Muslim I believe means submitting to the will of God and Christian means Christlike, that can also be said to be submitting to the will of God, so in the real sense they both mean the same. Obviously they do and aren't just titles but an act or attitude. Hence the reason Muslims believe Jesus to be Muslim. However, analyzing and understanding the Scripture properly would tell you that it's more a human error for the belief that Jesus isn't the son of God. When Jesus left the disciples, He promised them a helper, a comforter which came to them in the Holy Spirit, giving them power to heal and carry on the Teacher's work. This helper Muslims believe to be the Prophet Muhammad who some hold in higher esteem than Jesus since they believe he was the one sent after the Messiah. Now the question is if you choose to go by what Muslims believe as to Jesus not dying on the cross, wouldn't you think that you're getting second hand information compared to the Gospel which tells of the life and teachings of Jesus? I understand that they regarded Jesus high enough to doubt His death because of the works and testimonies that proved Him to be different from all other prophets that the Prophet Isaiah foretold His coming, so it's very possible that they doubted for mere reasons that in all His greatness, Jesus couldn't have been killed by mere men. And also because of the high regard they seem to equally regard Prophet Muhammad as high believing he was the one promised the disciples by Jesus. Clearly for human error, some groups might have come to take the Prophet's word as superior but do those people get the message of the helper promised more than those promised by Jesus? No way because just like in today's media, the press cannot give a more detailed report of the meeting of our President when he's having a closed door meeting than the attendees of that meeting. Jesus Christ is the Gospel sent by our Father in Heaven as He proclaimed when He said He is the way, the truth and the life, and that's why the Gospels by Mathew, Mark, Luke and John is entirely about the life and teachings of Jesus, and you cannot tell me that two of the twelve couldn't account correctly the life of Jesus and yet John the beloved was kept alive when others were killed, for him to write the revelation of things to come. Well the Bible has said it all, even things happening before our eyes have been revealed by a book that's existed for over 2000 years. And as the word of God changes not, I urge people to take Scripture more seriously as it is our life handbook to guide us. Even the keys to success lies in the Bible, many motivational authors/speakers and successful people get their inspiration from it. The most important thing though is to embrace the way, the truth and the life, for no one goes to the Father but through Him. We are all children of God but He is the son of God, the only begotten son. And come what may, regardless of our religious affiliation - be Christian or Muslim, Jew of Gentile - the children of God's kingdom would be those who are part of the universal church, Jesus Christ - whether you're Catholic or Anglican or Protestant would not matter. Peace be unto you all. 1 Like |
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