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Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:38am On Aug 15, 2015 |
bare1: Since the god of the Qur'an is different from the God of the Bible and Isa of the Qur'an is different from Jesus of the Bible, how can you say Jesus Christ was a Muslim considering the fact that Islam only started about 600 years after the ascension of Christ? bare1: As I said earlier that Jesus, the Son of God is different from Isa of the Qur'an who is not the son of allah and if you insist that Muhammad is the comforter to 'carry on the Teacher's work' how come Muhammad instead of giving life came to kill, steal and destroy? bare1: Only a mad man will trust the unreliable denials of Muhammad over eyewitnesses accounts of the disciples of Christ. bare1: They only doubted Jesus' death and resurrection because they were unbelievers and operating under the spirit of the antichrist. Listen and read how the Lord Jesus Christ rebuked the spirit of the antichrist when Peter allow himself to be used to prevent Jesus from dying on the Cross. If you allow yourself to be used by satan to deny Christ's death and resurrection the Jesus equally rebukes you. "But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men" (Matthew 16:23). bare1: We don't need to go far to ascertain who is telling the truth. Jesus said, 'By their fruits you shall know them' What was Muhammad's fruit? Stealing, killing and destroying as portrayed by true Muslims who come in the form of ISIS. bare1: Do you believe the saying of our Lord Jesus that He is the way, the truth and the life? If not why do deceive yourselves calling Him your prophet? bare1: You sound more confused than I thought. bare1: You can only get peace from the Prince of Peace. 1 Like |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 2:50pm On Aug 15, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: You're the confused one. I don't know if you're agreeing to what I write or contradicting it. All the same read it again without sentiments and redirect your responses to whoever you're arguing with. I am not here to condemn anyone but to proclaim Jesus Christ is LORD. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:32pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
bare1: In your first sentence you said Islam and Christianity means the same thing, no? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 8:03pm On Aug 19, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Did you just read only the first sentence? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:00pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
bare1: No. Christianity and Islam are not similar in any shape or form. The Allah of the Qur'an is different from the Yahweh of the Bible. The Jesus of the Qur'an is not the Jesus of the Bible. If Muslims truly believe Jesus of the Bible to be their prophet they would have believed His saying that He is the way, the truth and the life. The Muslim heaven is different from the heaven Jesus spoke about in the Bible. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 5:35am On Aug 21, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Hmm....I think I'm going to read the quran to see what the core values of Islam are but you have a point from what I've read so far. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:27pm On Aug 24, 2015 |
bare1: That will be a good proposition . |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 10:51pm On Aug 24, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Thank you. However we need not be judges of other people and their religion, that's not our purpose on Earth. The Almighty is the judge, rather pray that the truth be revealed to more people. God bless |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:07am On Aug 25, 2015 |
bare1: If you are aware that a faulty lift/elevator in a tower block could cause the death of people using it would you raise and alarm to prevent them from impending catastrophe? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 11:24am On Aug 25, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: You're not raising alarm for a faulty elevator, you're condemning others' religion. What if, just what if you are wrong? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:15pm On Aug 25, 2015 |
bare1: I'm not only raising an alarm for a faulty elevator I am suggesting that folks put on Jesus as a parachute for those jumping out of falling airplane because they cannot land safely by flapping their hands. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 3:58am On Aug 26, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: The title of the post alone totally condemns another religion. You should worry about yourself first cause I know Jesus spoke against judging others. So it's either you're not studying the Bible, or you choose to disobey Him. May we find the grace to really live like Christ....Amen! |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:28am On Aug 26, 2015 |
bare1: I can only advise you to enlighten yourself so that you do not expose your ignorance on the public forum. False humility is not Christianity. The following thread will help you in this adventure: https://www.nairaland.com/832839/judging-others#13628048 |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by Annunaki(m): 12:00pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
bare1: Obviously you have no clue about what islam is all about. Islam is not just any other religion, it is THE ANTI-CHRIST. 2 Likes |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 5:14pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
Annunaki: All the same don't judge. Focus on Jesus Christ. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 5:16pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Humility is a virtue, so can't be false. Light and darkness don't mix. Don't judge....Focus on Jesus Christ. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:22pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
bare1: Ignorance is not a virtue, help yourself by clicking on the thread I suggested on what it means to judge not. ==> https://www.nairaland.com/832839/judging-others#13628048 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24). |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by bare1(m): 10:02pm On Aug 26, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: It's says judge not and says judge according to righteous judgment and that is for you to determine your ways. You're not only judging, you're condemning as well. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:24am On Sep 10, 2015 |
bare1: Can you kindly show me where I condemned Muslims? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:12pm On Sep 14, 2015 |
Annunaki: Well said. |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:12pm On Sep 15, 2015 |
3. David was given the Psalms Do Muslims still believe the Torah is intact or that it has been changed? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:48pm On Sep 19, 2015 |
4. Jesus was given the gospel Where is this gospel if the current one has been altered? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:17pm On Sep 24, 2015 |
5. Christians should judge by what is in the Gospel Do Muslims really believe their Qur'an or has it been tampered with? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:56pm On Nov 01, 2015 |
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Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:54am On Nov 02, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: 6. The Qur'an confirms the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospels and guards them Surah 5:48 "To thee [the people of the gospel] We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;" Where is this Scripture allah sent today? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:10pm On Nov 04, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: 7. Ask Christians about spiritual things Surah 10.94, "If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt." Do Muslims believe and obey this injunction today? |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:55pm On Nov 05, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: 8. Curse on those who say God has a son: Surah 9:30, "The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!" |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:06pm On Nov 11, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: 9. Jesus not crucified Surah 4:157, "That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not." |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:25pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Let's round it up: 1. None can change Allah's words (Surah 6:34; 6:115; 18:27) 2. Jesus was given the gospel by Allah (Surah 57:27) 3. The Qur'an confirms the Gospels (Surah 5:48) 4. The Gospels contradict the Qur'an So, if the Qur'an confirms the Gospels which say that Jesus was crucified (Matthew 27:26–31; Mark 15:15–20; Luke 23:32–34; John 19:17-18), and the Qur'an says Jesus was not crucified (Surah 4:157), then the Qur'an is false. But if it says the Gospels are false, then the Qur'an denies its own teaching and Islam is false. https://carm.org/if-the-quran-is-true-then-islam-is-false 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:17pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Objections Answered Objection: The gospel is not the written record but the message that Jesus gave. Answer: This can't work because the Qur'an confirms the Torah, the Psalms, and the gospels (written records) that were around at the time of Muhammad. Surah 5:48, "To thee [the people of the gospel] We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety . . . " 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by yazach: 6:25pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
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Re: If The Qur'an Is True, Then Islam Is False by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:32pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
yazach: Get an afterlife. 1 Share
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