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Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by plaetton: 7:36pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:I am certainly one of those that subscribe to this theory 100%. That homo sapiens are genetic hybrid is certainly plausible. It would only imply that existing species of hominids were genetically modified to function with a more complex neural circuitry and capabilities. It still says nothing about divinity or divine provenance. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 9:11pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Weah96: You are thinking of a more fundamentalist religion. One that cannot be ridiculed. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 9:13pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
plaetton: I guess we have different definitions of "divine". |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by plaetton: 9:30pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: Yeah. If homo sapiens were genetically engineered, it still means that it could only have happened tinkering with biological processes, not through the application of magic. In other words, they would have had to have studied and mastered microbiological processes. In fact, the Sumerian texts say that the feat of human creation was a trial and error, until they finally got the desired traits. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by lepasharon(f): 9:37pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: lool..same. It's like iRobot |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by waldigit: 10:45pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: you over-celebrate scientific feat of man because of your little insight of it. To be have an informed appraisal you will need to have expert insght yourself and not relying on account of others. As a building and computing expert I can assure you the best computing prowress of man has not come in any way close to the miracle of brain abstract processing capability. Computer process logically using finite instruction set while brain process abtractly with infine instruction set. The gap is light years apart. So bro stop fiction and face reality by getting the first hand knowledge. Shalom |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by Nobody: 11:15pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Well, I know some people who would work well with robots since they can't tell the difference between human functions and robotic functions |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 11:30pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
waldigit: A computer never forgets. Even the most efficient brain forgets details every goddamn second. And as I have previously said, there is a simple shortcut to all this- half man, half robot. Viola! conscious robot. By the way, you are neither a neurologist, psychologist nor a computer programmer. 1 Like |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 11:31pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
standd: Come again |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by Nobody: 11:43pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: Guess I was thinking out loud. But hope you know all robots would have to go to hell. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by waldigit: 5:00am On Aug 03, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:I am a computer scientist of 15 years experience and have been interested in the issue of AI some sometimes now. Dont let the occultic scientist dellude you about the caopacity of man's tech. We are still far behind God. Our development is still machine based. We can begin to appraise ourselves when we start changing our own being to super human biologically. Imagine what the Bible says about Jesus coming to fight nuclear war at Amagedon with His bear hand sitting on a white horse. That an advance tech being deployed by advanced being. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 5:41am On Aug 03, 2015 |
waldigit: There are so many horrors that modern technology can do that surpass what is written in revelations. And by the way, revelations is supposed to be metaphorical and not literal. I agree that scientists are below God but I still do not underestimate them. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 5:42am On Aug 03, 2015 |
standd: If robots have no soul, how do they go to hell? |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by Nobody: 6:44am On Aug 03, 2015 |
Lol. I really don't care much about all these questions, I will just be fascinated about the robots and study them critically, and see how they were created. It will be fun @Allnaijablogger |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by DeepSight(m): 9:50am On Aug 03, 2015 |
@ Plaetton/ Your questions. Are you sure that you are thinking carefully? Because we are also concerned about such issues as your conscience, emotions, desires and beyond these, just your being, if a being exists there at all. Please we have re-programmed you. Kindly think carefully and give an answer. In case you are confused about the re-programming, please note that there is an innuendo in this question. Thank you. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by plaetton: 12:38pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
DeepSight:Wordy Sire, Your questions are not very clear. Perhaps you could rephrase them for a simpleton like myself. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by Nobody: 12:55pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: Only God's creatures will make it to 'heaven' so it's either the robots go to hell or they remain on earth to inherit it. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by plaetton: 1:32pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
waldigit: Did You say Occultic scientist? Dude, you're probably a computer technician, not, definitely not a computer scientist. Your vocabulary betrays you. By the way, what is a computer scientist? 1 Like |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by DeepSight(m): 1:44pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
plaetton: What do you mean? A self conscious person such are yourself finds this unclear? Please read carefully again and kindly attempt to understand what I said. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by tartar9(m): 1:48pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:first of all,there is a vast difference between intelligence and concsiousness.scientists are no where near in creating a concsious being,they dont even know its mechanism of action and they are still quite far in creating even a human-like intelligent robot.i dont think this is something we can ever know because of the subjectivity of concsiousness i.e involving self awareness.if we were to create a robot with full human-like intelligence how can we ever tell if the robot is actually concsious or not? |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by plaetton: 1:51pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
DeepSight: Illustruous man of the Creative Word, I like my questions in simple, chewable bits,..no salads, no salad dressings. My brain is too simple for complex questions. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by DeepSight(m): 2:06pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
^^^ Cant help you then.... best I can do is ask you to pay attention to bold words. Ciao |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by plaetton: 2:46pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
tartar9: Fair write up. But I think You are wrong, primarily because most of us are not current with advancements in this area. Another point is that whenever scientific analysis of consciouness is presented, most people ignore or shove it aside because it tends to nullify our beliefs about what it is. CONSCIOUSNESS IS SIMPLY THE AGGLOMERATION OF INTERACTIVE INFORMATION. Interactive information are the keywords here. . Where and whenever interactive information reaches a certain mathematical threshold, a commensurate level of consciouness ensues. In other words, consciousness, just like every other natural phenomena, obeys the laws of mathematics and physics. Computers may not appear to rival human consciouness at this time, for very obvious reasons. Human consciousness is a product of 4.7 billion years of interactive information. The human brain also operates in the quantum physical arena, which makes it vastly complex beyond the scope of classical physics. Believe it or not, the Internet, the world wide webb is so far the closest we have in artificial consciouness and self awareness because it is the Biggest assemblage or aglomeration of interactive information. All we need now is a quantum computer, and viola!, the world wide webb comes fully alive, consciouness and self aware, if it is not already so. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 6:02pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
standd: The |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 6:06pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
tartar9: How do you know that you are conscious? Your answer to that question will help you understand if a robot is conscious. Now, never say never. Back when Moses was writing the 10 commandments on a stone tablet, little did he know that over 3000 years later, a digital tablet would be available. And now, technology has advanced so much that what we think will happen in 3000 years will happen earlier in 30 years. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 6:07pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
DeepSight: Lord Deepsight has spoken. Seems a bit light on the word salad this time 2 Likes |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by Nobody: 6:13pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: Are you hoping that robots become a major part of humanity? |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 6:14pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
standd: I'm not sure. It would be interesting but it could also mean the extinction of humans as a species. Watch the animatrix. |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by Nobody: 6:31pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: I wouldn't mind the human species going extinct though |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by texanomaly(f): 7:07pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Artificial intelligence is based on learning. Any information an A. I. already knows is simply what was programmed into it. Anything after that would be "learned" knowledge and behavior. Isn't this how all intelligent life learns? Basically artificial intelligences are bound by the same environmental, educational and religious backgrounds as the rest of us. Just like we learn religion from our parents, these beings will learn from what they are exposed to. If artificial intelligence was actually created it would still learn the way we do. Maybe faster, but anything imbedded from the start is not "intelligence". It is a program. From a scientific viewpoint, for all intents and purposes, these beings would be children. They would learn just like us. We are a product of what we are exposed to, plain and simple. From a religious and personal point of view, there is a difference between a creation and something engineered. That may not make sense, but it is an opinion. 1 Like |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 7:16pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
texanomaly: Good point! Now, what happens when these being learn and become adults? Fully reasoning robots? Do we treat them like humans? |
Re: What Will It Mean For Religion When Humans Create Conscious Robots? by AllNaijaBlogger(m): 7:16pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
standd: You could start with yourself. There is a transformer at the beginning of your street waiting to be hugged! |
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