dozymars:

Silly Question. Is Bill Gate and Mark Zukerberg a first class of 2.1 gradute ?

Ybnm4life:
Most employees don't really care about certification these days anymore especially if you graduated from a prestigious university... A 2.2 from Unilag is better than a 2.1 from any university from Ogun state...
But everything depends on God, even people that graduated with first class are still yet to be employed. Just pray God smiles on whatever grade you have and you are in the lahbour market...

prettyjo:
we are tired of discussing and even seeing this topic over and over again.

mstchewwwwwwwwwww

Raalsalghul:
Your comment doesn't even make a lick of sense! Can you listen to yourself? You are trying to say that someone's alma mater determines his/her intelligence and employability in the labour market. Do you think employers care about your alma mater? No they don't,they only care about what you can offer to them and here you are with your flawed reasoning. Don't you know that a graduate from an unknown school like Gombe State University can be more sound than a UNILAG graduate. Intelligence doesn't in anyway correlate with your alma mater. Nigerian graduates! Why will employers even consider us when our reasoning and argument is as flawed as yours?

Ybnm4life:

Must you quote me? Can't you critize without resorting to insult, every opinion can sometimes be corrected and respected which you did at sone point but fumble along the way.. It my opinion... Stop quoting me in the Name of "LIKES"
ERAN

Raalsalghul:
Saying your reasoning is flawed is not an insult: it means you should reconstruct your argument.

busayochic:
My dear friend, I finished with a 3rd class and today I'm a manager at a multinational company. Believe in God, believe in yourself and develop yourself!

crackhouse:
it is only lazy people that are looking for who to work for instead of who will work for them. Assuming those employers did not strive or work hard to establish those companies will u see where to work? so work hard dude, think! think!! u must think out something and stop looking for already established empire. think like a boss and stop thinking like a servant.

metrosexual:
[b]Below are words of a successful 2:2 graduate;

"First and foremost I'd like to unequivocally state that a 2:1 gives you an edge over the 2:2 graduates especially for shortlisting
purposes. Most graduate trainee programs have a minimum of 2:1 as their requirement.


Now to 2:2 graduates, I'd advise folks in this
category to add a proven competency other than your 2:2 grade to make you shine in the eyes of an employer. I'd use myself as an example, I polished my writing skills, my diction and communication skills.

Weeks before finishing NYSC, I wrote a
proposal to a top multinational firm, attached my CV and a cover letter, I got an invite for an interview, just minutes into the interview the HR manager said... "I love your diction!" ...Your proposal was an excellent idea, I just wanted to hear you talk."

And as you guessed right, I got the job! Mind you, I graduated with a 2:2 and my start up salary was close to six digits.


Apart from your 2:1 or 2:2, every employer respects "IDEAS" over a certificate. I have a very good job today because I sold an idea to my employer.

Another option for 2:2 graduates is to add
professional certifications to your certificate to give your CV some shine, go for Internationally recognised certifications in your profession, the likes of CISA, CISCO, NEBOSH, Prince 2, etc.

If that's far reached you can go for certification from Nigerian Institutes, the likes of Institute of Chattered Accountants of Nigeria, Nigerian institute of Management, Chattered institute of Personnel Management and others. And mind you, you must not read Accounting in University to get an ICAN certification. I had a friend who read Statistics and in final year he registered for ICAN, before finishing NYSC he got his ICAN certification and works in a multinational corporation now, and mind you, he graduated with a 2:2.

I bet you that a 2:2 with CISA or ORACLE 11g would beat a 2:1 graduate to a job.


A 2:2 graduate with ICAN before hitting age 27 would give you a job almost anyplace you apply.


A 2:1 just gives you a better chance over the 2:2 graduates for the case of Graduate Trainee programs, but how many jobs do Graduate Trainee Programs offer? VERY FEW!"


My last words to everyone is this ... Hustle hard!! If you made 2:1 make sure it works for you, if you got a 2:2 acquire extra skills and competences to convince an employer that you are competent enough. All the best everyone!!![/b]

Polithiefcian:
is it advisable for a graduate of History to register for Project Mangement professional course?

Advice pls

Vado:
Dude let no one intimidate you. 2.2 is not the best for sure, but neither is it the worst and you can't compare the value of a 2.2 in a place like Unilorin or UI with what obtains in IBB university. Go around all the top-notch federal universities and tell me how many students make 2.1. That target is not a walk in the park. My department boasted of only few 2.1 last year and it wasn't like the rest of the class were daft.

ogbonti:


No please, that is mixing apples and oranges!

dozymars:


Silly Question.
Is Bill Gate and Mark Zukerberg a first class of 2.1 gradute ?

Polithiefcian:


So whc professional course do u think I shd take?

Thanks

no2fuks:


olodo rabata

busayochic:
my dear friend, normally I would ignore this but I guess it has given room for me to share a story with you. The end justifies the means... ever heard of that? I finished secondary school best chemistry and maths student. Went to uni and was faced with financial, accommodation and environmental challenges. This had a huge impact on my grades during my 100 & 200 level. I only became somewhat stable during my 300 level of which it was too late as an irrevocable damage had been done to my G.P.A. So I graduated with 3rd class and enrolled for a program whilst on national service. I got my first job at MTN a month after I completed service (God's favor). I was already working while my contemporaries that finished with 2.1. were still job hunting. I kept developing my self with online courses and learning Microsoft Excel via YouTube (yes! YouTube is not only for musical videos). Worked in 2 other organisations and made manager last year. Truth is, a point will come that organisations won't bother about what u finished with but what u are bringing to the table in terms of experience. That's how the Germans operate. Now I'm not encouraging people to go finish with a 3rd class... nah! All I'm saying is, regardless what you finished with, you can still make it in life. No man is God. It's all about His favours; plus, the importance of constantly developing yourself can not be over emphasised

busayochic:
my dear friend, normally I would ignore this but I guess it has given room for me to share a story with you. The end justifies the means... ever heard of that? I finished secondary school best chemistry and maths student. Went to uni and was faced with financial, accommodation and environmental challenges. This had a huge impact on my grades during my 100 & 200 level. I only became somewhat stable during my 300 level of which it was too late as an irrevocable damage had been done to my G.P.A. So I graduated with 3rd class and enrolled for a program whilst on national service. I got my first job at MTN a month after I completed service (God's favor). I was already working while my contemporaries that finished with 2.1. were still job hunting. I kept developing my self with online courses and learning Microsoft Excel via YouTube (yes! YouTube is not only for musical videos). Worked in 2 other organisations and made manager last year. Truth is, a point will come that organisations won't bother about what u finished with but what u are bringing to the table in terms of experience. That's how the Germans operate. Now I'm not encouraging people to go finish with a 3rd class... nah! All I'm saying is, regardless what you finished with, you can still make it in life. No man is God. It's all about His favours; plus, the importance of constantly developing yourself can not be over emphasised

Icon4s:
Op to tell you tthe truth. With a 2:2 u are screwed up bt nt completely.
The Nigerian system has it that after school u go looking for job. The easiest way to stand out of d crowd of millions of fresh graduates is to make atleast a 2:1 bc this puts u at d higher 10% percentile and increases ur chance of being shortlisted for aptitude tests.

Ur 2:2 puts u in d popular basket where most graduates fall into making u having to compete with almost every graduate for d few available position.In this case ur chance of getting that job becomes slimmer.

Peeps have come here shouting it doesnt matter," what u need is connection", "Grace of God", "Go for ur masters", "become self employed", "go for certifications"," what employers look at is skills & nt result". Yes it works for some. But note it that:

-Not everybody has d necessary connections. Some pple bc their uncle is a gate man in a company feel they have connection.

-God rewards hard work with excellence. U didnt play ur part as a student and at d end of d day expect God to come and work wonders. Miracles are nt common that is y they are called miracles.

-U are adviced by some to go for masters.Note that in most cases what will still give u dat job is ur first degree. Masters changes little or nothing. U are still goinf back for more theories with little or no industry experience. If u graduate at 21 or 22yrs better for u. But when u graduate at 26-28yrs and then go for master by d time u are out u are already over 30yrs and that further compound ur woes bc most companies put a maximum age of 24-27.

-Some say become self employed. Note dat it is nt everybody that has d entrepreneural skills.If u study a course dat u can use to practise better for u. Eg: Architecture, Civil Engineering, Pharmacy, mayb Law. Bt for some causes d Nigerian situation cannot allow u practise except u seek employment.

-Some say get certifications.If u like get 100 certifications, the first thing employers use to select candidates for fresh graduate position is 1st degree.

-Some say companies focus more on skills or what u can do. This can only apply for experienced positions. What employers need for graduate trainee applicants is that paper degree ceritificate.

The advice i can give to a graduate with 2:2 depends on:
-The person's age
-The course studied
-Location of residence among others.

However, remember i said a person with 2:2 is screwed up bt nt completely. I am implying dat it is bad bt u can still help ur self. Jst dat u have to work extra hard and in most cases nt likely to get a job as quickly as 1:1 & 2:1 graduates.

Students that still have d opportunity should learn from this thread.

I dnt want to talk abt pple with 3rd class and pass.

Mcslize:
rago lets continue our tutorial. Wen I mentioned u somtime ago u said u don't even knw who I was den I posted a message mentioning u telling u dat was d guy u were teaching some America diction on whatsapp which I knw u already remember cuz I saw no reply frm u that tells me u know who I am.

Hope I've nt offended u sha...dis one u no dey reply person mention so.

Harinholar:
..nice 1..bt mind u professional courses is different nd can not be compare wit just any oda course...

Icon4s:


a job of over a 100 applicant. This is d kind of job 2:2 can give u. 2:1 or 1:1 can get u selected from over 400, 000 applicants.

nobleens:
With the high rate of students graduating from the Nigerian institutions, what is the hope of a 2.2, third and pass holder in the Nigerian labour market?

Opinions please..