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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Nobody: 9:45pm On Aug 31, 2015
Mynd44:

So we are still on the crap that GEJ lost due to bigotry? Perhaps you will tell me what exactly GEJ did in the SW that would have made then vote in again.

The question is not how President Buhari fought Vandalism, it is about why did vandalism continue in President Jonathan 's administration without the government able to do anything about it. You are insinuating that the APC were behind the vandalism but why were the government not able to arrest and charge these people to court? No conviction. Just excuses of vandalism week in week out. Is it because the administration was incompetent? God forbid cos your "Hero" was not.

I guess when Vice President Osinbajo held meetings with power sector stake holders up all were sleeping and closing your eyes and ears right?
Or when the president designated the military to be the ones protecting these pipelines, you were not in the know.

Denial is your game, keep at it
Yes o, the almighty military can protect gas pipelines but they failed miserably when it comes to oil pipelines, recent Arepo explosion comes to mind? Do you even know how many thousands of kilometers of gas pipelines we're talking about? Is your military omnipresent?

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 9:52pm On Aug 31, 2015
There are uncountable threads on Nairaland praising Jonathan's administration for improved power across Nigeria before formation of APC.

Most people promised to vote Jonathan if the improved power can be sustained hence APC decided to give it first line of attack.

Just search Nairaland or use google.

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by boxiposhags: 9:53pm On Aug 31, 2015
dapsoneh:
Seriously, light has really been stable in many part of the country like never before. If it's the handy work of this new gov, kudos to them but pls, it can still get better. Notn stops us from using light 24hrs in a week.
in a week I use power supply 18hours a day in my area and I have once done non-stop five days power supply no shaking.

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by EastLebanon(m): 9:54pm On Aug 31, 2015
Who were the people blowing the pipelines during previous administration?is the opc or who.
FYI:there is no improvement in power supply at nekede,owerri.

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Mynd44: 9:55pm On Aug 31, 2015
Sincere9gerian:

Yes o, the almighty military can protect gas pipelines but they failed miserably when it comes to oil pipelines, recent Arepo explosion comes to mind? Do you even know how many thousands of kilometers of gas pipelines we're talking about? Is your military omnipresent?
You cant keep this bullcrap up


You mean for almost 30 months, the government paid billions to ethnic militias to monitor the pipelines and yet those ones failed which meant the contract was not successful? Cluelessness and incompetence

For those months, not one person arrested? We are not saying they should stop everything, just catch one person there...they could not complacency maybe?

But they could come to the media using their paid goons to thread crap and blame the opposition and we at supposed to believe them? Clowning?

Gerarahia

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Mynd44: 9:59pm On Aug 31, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:
There are uncountable threads on Nairaland praising Jonathan's administration for improved power across Nigeria before formation of APC.

Most people promised to vote Jonathan if the improved power can be sustained hence APC decided to give it first line of attack.

Just search Nairaland or use google.
Yet "hero" left office and with power generation at 2,800MW and less than 90 days after, we are up to 5,000MW.....can we confidently say they did not know what strings to pull?

Stop showing your backside

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by boxiposhags: 9:59pm On Aug 31, 2015
The military, also called the armed forces, are forces authorized to use deadly force, and weapons, to support the interests of the state and some or all of its citizens. The task of the military is usually defined as defense of the state and its citizens, and the prosecution of war against another state. The military may also have additional sanctioned and non-sanctioned functions within a society, including, the promotion of a political agenda, protecting corporate economic interests, internal population control, construction, emergency services, social ceremonies, and guarding important areas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military My point is military isn't one man and its a lot of people.The pipeline will be cover when they are placed at strategic location.Yes, naija military is "omnipresent"
Sincere9gerian:

Yes o, the almighty military can protect gas pipelines but they failed miserably when it comes to oil pipelines, recent Arepo explosion comes to mind? Do you even know how many thousands of kilometers of gas pipelines we're talking about? Is your military omnipresent?

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Jesusloveyou: 10:03pm On Aug 31, 2015
WhiteTechnology:
So what PDP said about APC vandalizing gas pipelines is true angry


No wonder vandalism stopped when APC won



APC a party built on deceit and supported by gullible zombies. grin





GEJ God is vindicating you



Remain blessed the best President Nigeria ever had cool
because gej is so clueless and corrupt

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 10:08pm On Aug 31, 2015
Mynd44:

Yet "hero" left office and with power generation at 2,800MW and less than 90 days after, we are up to 5,000MW.....can we confidently say they did not know what strings to pull?

Stop showing your backside

Nigeria Lost 3,800MW of Electricity to Vandalism in 60 Days, Says Nebo


Minister of Power, Prof. Chinedu Nebo

Minister of Power, Prof. Chinedu Nebo has disclosed that Nigeria lost over 3,800 megawatts (MW) of its expected electricity generation to vandalism of majorly key gas pipelines between December 2014 and February 2015.

Nebo disclosed in his presentation at a recent media briefing that the last break on the country petroleum pipeline occurred early last week, leading to a total loss of about 500MW of electricity from the national grid.

“Between 2014 and now, there have been over 200 incidences on Trans Niger crude oil Pipeline (TNP) in the east affecting Okoloma gas supply. There are also regular interruptions on the west through the Trans Forcados crude oil Pipeline (TFP) affecting gas supply in the west, and Escravos-Lagos Pipeline (ELP) gas pipeline vandalism in the swamp of west Niger Delta,” said Nebo.

He further noted that the incidences between the period ‎had led to loss of over 3,800MW, considering that over 1.1 billion standard cubic feet (scft) of gas supply to power was cumulatively lost on daily basis.

Nebo stated: “A loss of 200 million scf/day is equivalent to power reduction of the order of 700MW.”

“On the 29 December, they went and vandalised pipelines and that cost us nearly 1,000MW.They vandalise the gas pipelines more and they don’t get anything from it. Two days ago, they struck again after we had arrived at 4000MW and we are down again,” Nebo said.

The minister said the effect of power infrastructure vandalism is a resultant high tariff rate accompanied with less power supply instead of a reversal order.

He explained that the government is working on deploying remote monitoring of the pipelines which would help to forestall further acts of sabotage.

In his response to questions, especially on attempts to apprehend pipeline vandals, Nebo said: “Just this week, two vandals were arrested in Akwa Ibom and jailed for five years, also in Ondo state, there were two convictions. These are just the most recent arrests.”

The ministry also signed a pact with civil society groups to raise awareness on the impact of pipeline vandalism on the nation’s economy.

At the signing ceremony, the Permanent Secretary in the ministry, Godknows Igali said that with about 20 civil society groups on sensitisation campaigns against vandalism, the drive will help to enlighten Nigerians more about the menace and promote the report of vandals’ activities by patriotic Nigerians across communities.

Some of the groups who signed the anti-vandalism campaign pact include the former president of the Performing Musicians Association of Nigeria (PMAN), Charles Oputa, National Association of Nigerian Students (NANS) and Senior Special Adviser to the President on Youth Matters, Jude Imaigwe.


http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/nigeria-lost-3-800mw-of-electricity-to-vandalism-in-60-days-says-nebo/202003/

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Nobody: 10:10pm On Aug 31, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:


Gas pipelines are different from petroleum products pipelines.

Gas pipelines vandals gain nothing except payment from their sponsors while,

Crude Oil products Vandals make millions selling their stolen products.

Your logic is not applicable.
The vandals can differentiate that or they just pop whatever pipelines they come across and see what comes out of it.
Anyways kudos to the president for resolving this problem, I will wait till the dry season before I celebrate

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Jesusloveyou: 10:15pm On Aug 31, 2015
Sincere9gerian:

Yes o, the almighty military can protect gas pipelines but they failed miserably when it comes to oil pipelines, recent Arepo explosion comes to mind? Do you even know how many thousands of kilometers of gas pipelines we're talking about? Is your military omnipresent?
just become a militant tomorrow, and see, if d military are still clueless and corrupt like ur hero, nothing like oga @ d top sent u, anytime d navy or army catch u,

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Nobody: 10:16pm On Aug 31, 2015
Mynd44:

Yet "hero" left office and with power generation at 2,800MW and less than 90 days after, we are up to 5,000MW.....can we confidently say they did not know what strings to pull?

Stop showing your backside
Liar! Power generation capacity fluctuates, even now. In August 2014 , it peaked at 4,500 megawatts
https://www.nairaland.com/1879662/nationwide-electricity-peaks-4500mw-brazilian
Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 10:18pm On Aug 31, 2015
Obiagelli:

The vandals can differentiate that or they just pop whatever pipelines they come across and see what comes out of it.
Anyways kudos to the president for resolving this problem, I will wait till the dry season before I celebrate

APC political strategists and top echelons are evil and did everything unimaginable to discredit GEJ and to get power.

Most People promised to vote GEJ should he sustain the improved power supply which APC saw as biggest threat to dislodging the incumbent hence their attack on gas pipelines.

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Nobody: 10:23pm On Aug 31, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:


APC political strategists and top echelons are evil and did everything unimaginable to discredit GEJ and to get power.

Most People promised to vote GEJ should he sustain the improved power supply which APC saw as biggest threat to dislodging the incumbent hence their attack on gas pipelines.
You can only manipulate a weak, irresponsible, indecisive and incompetent government.

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Mynd44: 10:29pm On Aug 31, 2015
Sincere9gerian:

Liar! Power generation capacity fluctuates, even now. In August 2014 , it peaked at 4,500 megawatts
https://www.nairaland.com/1879662/nationwide-electricity-peaks-4500mw-brazilian
What is the lie there?

That as at May 29, it was at 2,800 or what? You claim that as at August last year, it was at 4,500 but why did it drop to 2,800? Incompetence, cluelessness or complacency by the government?

How come we have peaked 4,700 (the 5,000 is a year end projection)
http://www.informationng.com/2015/08/power-generation-reaches-all-new-peak-at-4720mw.html

What is the present administration doing right?

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Mynd44: 10:30pm On Aug 31, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:


APC political strategists and top echelons are evil and did everything unimaginable to discredit GEJ and to get power.

Most People promised to vote GEJ should he sustain the improved power supply which APC saw as biggest threat to dislodging the incumbent hence their attack on gas pipelines.
Nigerians are funny. They never accept the blame instead they blame their enemies both virtual, spiritual and real.

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 10:32pm On Aug 31, 2015
Obiagelli:

You can only manipulate a weak, irresponsible, indecisive and incompetent government.

This can only be said in a united and patriotic country not Nigeria.

Can't you see those who love hearing Bokoharam attack now show sympathy to NE people while previous agonizers now show no more remorse for political expediences.

People are evil.
Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by drss(m): 10:34pm On Aug 31, 2015
Mynd44:

So we are still on the crap that GEJ lost due to bigotry? Perhaps you will tell me what exactly GEJ did in the SW that would have made then vote in again.

The question is not how President Buhari fought Vandalism, it is about why did vandalism continue in President Jonathan 's administration without the government able to do anything about it. You are insinuating that the APC were behind the vandalism but why were the government not able to arrest and charge these people to court? No conviction. Just excuses of vandalism week in week out. Is it because the administration was incompetent? God forbid cos your "Hero" was not.

I guess when Vice President Osinbajo held meetings with power sector stake holders up all were sleeping and closing your eyes and ears right?
Or when the president designated the military to be the ones protecting these pipelines, you were not in the know.

Denial is your game, keep at it
Why are boko haramites still terrorizing Nigerians despite the relocation of military command center

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Mynd44: 10:40pm On Aug 31, 2015
drss:

Why are boko haramites still terrorizing Nigerians despite the relocation of military command center
You want to compare a full assault on the nation with a bunch of thieves puncturing pipelines in the hope of stealing whatever they can get?

You are really smart

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Tonitelli: 10:40pm On Aug 31, 2015
Obiagelli:

Or maybe the pipeline protection is no longer in the hands of vandals.


THERE YOU GO!!!!!!
Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by drss(m): 10:48pm On Aug 31, 2015
It is visible to the deaf and audible to the blind that APC where the chief criminals responsible for gas pipeline vandalism.
Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Mynd44: 10:49pm On Aug 31, 2015
drss:
It is visible to the deaf and audible to the blind that APC where the chief criminals responsible for gas pipeline vandalism.
And the last administration were too weak to stop then right?

Stop digging bro

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by drss(m): 10:51pm On Aug 31, 2015
Mynd44:

You want to compare a full assault on the nation with a bunch of thieves puncturing pipelines in the hope of stealing whatever they can get?

You are really smart
Gas vandalization is act of terrorism. Economic terror sabotage. An act APC is gulty of.

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by drss(m): 11:01pm On Aug 31, 2015
Mynd44:

And the last administration were too weak to stop then right?

Stop digging bro
Mere water pipelines are being vandalised daily talkmore of crude oil pipeline vandalism. At least we can understand the economic benefits of water pipes and crude oil pipe vandalism. But gas vandalization is very strange becos there's no economic benefit to gas pipeline vandalism.
Do you know gas pipelines span thousands of km? It will be very difficult to police the whole span of areas that are host to gas pipelines.
Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Nobody: 11:02pm On Aug 31, 2015
Its like tha govt af tha day means biznis... Yh! Nat yet sarifaid tho!

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Nobody: 11:03pm On Aug 31, 2015
Mynd44:

What is the lie there?

That as at May 29, it was at 2,800 or what? You claim that as at August last year, it was at 4,500 but why did it drop to 2,800? Incompetence, cluelessness or complacency by the government?

How come we have peaked 4,700 (the 5,000 is a year end projection)
http://www.informationng.com/2015/08/power-generation-reaches-all-new-peak-at-4720mw.html

What is the present administration doing right?
My dear, I did not claim, rather I showed a newspaper report, which is still what you used to justify the current generation capacity. Of course whenever there is incidence of vandalism, generation will drop.

Anyway, what APC promised was not 4,700 or even 5,000 megawatts or fight over phantom achievement in it's first 3 months in office. They promised 20,000 megawatts in 4 years so I don't understand why so much is being dissipated on this issue. I expect to see clear road map towards fulfilling this promise at this time, but unfortunately, that appears not to be the case
Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Mynd44: 11:07pm On Aug 31, 2015
Sincere9gerian:

My dear, I did not claim, rather I showed a newspaper report, which is still what you used to justify the current generation capacity. Of course whenever there is incidence of vandalism, generation will drop.

Anyway, what APC promised was not 4,700 or even 5,000 megawatts. They promised 20,000 megawatts in 4 years so I don't understand why so much is being dissipated on this issue. I expect to see clear road map towards fulfilling this promise at this time, but unfortunately, that appears not to be the case
Lmaooo. The current administration promised that this year, generation will hit 5,000mw. This is still August, September in an hour. They just need 300mw to hit this year's target.

They promised to add 5,000 next year, why not allow then focus on fulfilling this year and then they work in next year.
Obviously, the way to fulfilling this year's target is to ensure that the plants get the gas needed.

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Tonitelli: 11:08pm On Aug 31, 2015
IsraeliAIRFORCE:


Gas pipelines are different from petroleum products pipelines.

Gas pipelines vandals gain nothing except payment from their sponsors while,

Crude Oil products Vandals make millions selling their stolen products.

Your logic is not applicable.


Her logic seems pretty applicable to me..you later on posted a report from the former minister, and what was there was transniger CRUDE OIL pipeline,transforcados CRUDE OIL PIPELINE,and excravos lagos pipeline affecting power supply.
tell me how vandals are supposed to differentiate between the gas and crude oil pipelines as obiagelli rightly said...

you havent even put up anything to show that the pipelines arent the same GEJ was paying millions to ex miliitants to safeguard..are you saying the government was paying for the safeguarding of crude oil pipelines, but didnt see that of the gas pipelines as important?

and somewhere in that report we saw that some vandals were arrested..if they had anything to do with the opposition at the time, why was it never proven in court?

instead you are here propagating insincerenigerian's cock and bull theory that he has been spewing since the 19th century...


as far as this improvement in power is concerned, i stand with obiagelli..lets see as goes...
but it still doesnt change the fact that GEJ government can blame nobody else for their incompetence in these matters but themselves..all this crap abt APC being the ones blowing up the pipelines and yet u never caught anyone tied to them...and u say you are the government in power..
abeg make una allow us hear word..

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Tonitelli: 11:14pm On Aug 31, 2015
drss:

Mere water pipelines are being vandalised daily talkmore of crude oil pipeline vandalism. At least we can understand the economic benefits of water pipes and crude oil pipe vandalism. But gas vandalization is very strange becos there's no economic benefit to gas pipeline vandalism.
Do you know gas pipelines span thousands of km? It will be very difficult to police the whole span of areas that are host to gas pipelines.


and crude oil pipelines donthow does a vandal differentiate between the two??whats to say the vandal wasnt after crudeoil??

the same difficulties experienced policing the gas pipelines applied to the crudeoil pipelines..if you could pay millions to tompolo and co to take care of the crudeoil pipelines, u should have extended it to the gas pipelines...

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by drss(m): 11:22pm On Aug 31, 2015
Tonitelli:



and crude oil pipelines donthow does a vandal differentiate between the two??whats to say the vandal wasnt after crudeoil??

the same difficulties experienced policing the gas pipelines applied to the crudeoil pipelines..if you could pay millions to tompolo and co to take care of the crudeoil pipelines, u should have extended it to the gas pipelines...
The question u should ask urself is why has gas pipeline vandalism stopped and crude oil pipeline vandalization continue Just recently crude oil pipelines feeding warri refinery were vandalised the whole plant was shut down. Why will any body vandalise gas lines in the first place if not for sabotage?

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Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by chudionu58(f): 11:30pm On Aug 31, 2015
Re: Why Electricity Has Remained Stable – FG by Tonitelli: 11:33pm On Aug 31, 2015
drss:

The question u should ask urself is why has gas pipeline vandalism stopped and crude oil pipeline vandalization continue Just recently crude oil pipelines feeding warri refinery were vandalised the whole plant was shut down. Why will any body vandalise gas lines in the first place if not for sabotage?


bros...did you read the part in the report where the secretary said the government has redoubled the conscious level of engagement where these gas pipelines pass tru?

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/shell-declares-force-majeure-on-bonny-light-exports/218723/

and the above link posted by the guy above me just goes on to give credence to my belief that them vandals dont know the difference...and as u will see from there, gas pipelines are still being affected..
the pipelines mentioned there are still the same mentioned by the former minister in that earlier report..

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