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Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by dubemivan(m): 10:42am On Dec 14, 2015 |
175:Dont decieve yourself Mr Drinker! The OP didnt even explain that verse well.... You can not be drunk and be filled with the Holy Ghost at the same time therefore we are admonished to filled with the Holy Ghost and then NO room for WINE in our Lives! |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by firstking01(m): 10:46am On Dec 14, 2015 |
These days we have too many philosophical preaching and teaching...everybody wanna balance d scriptures to suit their way of life...mr poster...all u listed up there are sins by biblical standard...lemmi jhes give u a clue, earings is a sin, remember dat it was wit d neckleses, bangles, earings dat aaron used in making dat golden calf?...also, by d principles of jesus...everytin u listed up there are all sins...because of hw hard it is for a carmel to pass tru d eye of a niddle, u nw tink u can manipulate d carmel's way tru d niddle ba?, lailai, u no go fit...one last tin...smoking and drinking, d bible speak of it as gluttony, cnt recall d scriptures nw, wen i do, i'd comebk...smoking and drinking is an act of dirtiness...remember soddom op....dis ur write up myt drag ppl to hell, esp d new convert....i warn u op. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Gheritage(m): 10:52am On Dec 14, 2015 |
Toks2008:But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by dubemivan(m): 10:54am On Dec 14, 2015 |
Toks2008:WRONG OP.... you missed it here!!! Self service is a SIN whether or not you see it that way. There is nothing complex about it.... Masturbation is borne out lustful thought and dirty mind which certifies it as a terrible sin. You dont use the TEMPLE OF GOD as a place to satisfy sexual orgy! It is even prohibited too even as a Married Couple, why should one involve in such act when he/she has a partner what will you tell your spouse if you got caught in the act It is really silly to think it is sinless to self service. The BIBLE also clearly arn that He the knoeth hat is good and refuse to do it, to Him it is a SIN! |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by missjahiniekpe(f): 11:02am On Dec 14, 2015 |
Our problem as christians is that we keep classifying sin.... But am here to tell you that sin is a nature we inherited from Adam, by one man sin entered the world and Jesus christ, our saviour paid for our sins once and for all... What am saying is, you will not make heaven because you are sinless, that's self justification. Even God knows that man cannot be sinless which is why Jesus came, so if you want to please the father or make Heaven, believe in the price Jesus paid... And whosoever beliveth in Him shall be saved and have eternal life, that verse didn't say and whosoever is sinless shall be saved.... Its time to stop seeing sin as an individual thing. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by FelcoCom: 12:12pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
We shall know the truth and the truth will set us free... According to all of the above listed,these are teachings that the devil will capitalise on in each individual doing such until the person gets to the gate of destruction For instance, when you tend to drink that alocohlic drink, the devil tends to use that as means to introduce more to you which in the first place seems normal to you and at the end,you are into drunkness and so on like that... It is better not to start with those things at all than to give room.and end up in place of destruction.... Apostle Paul writing to people of Rome,he said but put ye on the lord Jesus Christ and make not provision for the flesh to fulfill the lusts thereof(romans 13 v 14) All being listed are things of the flesh which can never please God.... Apostle Paul writing to the people of Corinth,he said all things are lawful for me but all things are not expedient ,all things are lawful for me but all things edify not (1 Corinth 10 v 23)... I don't blame preachers going against them because doing those things at a scratch is like a gateway for the devil to dominate Say no to FLESH!!!!!! |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Tellemall: 12:18pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Toks2008: People are in hell because they could not imagine having to give up alcohol? So they rejected the message and still went to hell for drinking alcohol. In the end I hope what you're writing here is the truth to yourself and those who end up believing it. It had better not be more heresy from you, a person who wants to add your understanding to the scriptures when it never had your interpretation in the original. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by derecho(m): 1:02pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
missjahiniekpe:hmmn,so why Matthew 5:48? |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by GamaG(m): 1:13pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Toks2008:Must you write on Naira land? Ur the type people need to ignore on this forum. Looking for the best excuse to commit sin or backup the sin uv been committing. Rubbish. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by GamaG(m): 1:15pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Toks2008:Must you write on Naira land? Ur the type people need to ignore on this forum. Looking for the best excuse to commit sin or backup the sin uv been committing. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by derecho(m): 1:25pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
There's no need for long stories. Revelation 21:27 Says "And there shall in no wise enter into it ANYTHING THAT DEFILES, NEITHER WHATEVER WORKS ABOMINATION,OR MAKES A LIE:but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life." As many as are led by the Spirit,they are the sons of God. No serious child of God considers porn,smoking,masturbation,polygamy and many, if not all,of the things mentioned by the OP as an issue because even unbelievers know. Without HOLINESS No Man Shall See The Lord. Use not liberty for the occasion of the flesh alone. The is what the bible calls the PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY. Even liberty sef get law. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Toks2008(m): 1:44pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Gheritage: Colossians 2:8 7having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude. 8See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. 9For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,… This passage clearly states the need for believers to build their standard on the word of GOD which is Christ(John 1 vs 1). We must be very careful not to be held hostage by enticing words of men that has no foundation from the scriptures. All i wrote are backed by the scriptures and no single one was explained with my philosophy or carnal understanding. My greatest regret about this thread is that i had wanted to unlearn some of those things i wrote and really take to corrections but i weep inside right now because throughout the length of the pages,i am yet to see just one person who have clearly explained a contrary view from the word of GOD. This goes to show that indeed many believers have no sound mind but GOD has not given us the spirit of timidity but that of a sound mind. On this note i say thank you all for viewing this thread and i may consider commenting if i see just one person who will really educate us from the scriptures on a contrary view to all i have written. SHALOM. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by matiuni: 1:53pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Toks2008:But no where was pornograghy mentioned in the bible.It must be acceptable to your own type of christianity so that anybody can just be saved. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by God2man(m): 1:57pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Calling sin another name. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by jiggar(m): 2:38pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
After reading from page 1 to the last page, I have come to realize that, the devil is really bent on seeing people end up in hell. To the OP, I must commend you for your write up, but no room for justifying some of those things you wrote. I will not condemn or judge you, because a Christian is not allowed to judge others, and more importantly, ultimate judge resides with God and Him alone. I have come to realize that, we try to "outsmart" God, by thinking that there are loopholes in the Bible. To the OP, you keep asking for reference in the Bible concerning masturbation, when you and I know right from the outset that, such word and so many others, are not in the Bible. Does it mean that, the act of masturbation is not a sin? Simply because, it's not in the Bible. What of pedophile, female circumcision etc? Do we justify them, because they are not in the Bible? Finally, let me make some references in the Bible. Lev 15:16 and 17, says much about se-men emission, without the man's own doing. If it happens, the man is declared unclean and must wash himself, before he can interact with people and His God. Point to note here is this, this was done unintentionally. Now, imagine a person doing it intentionally? What do you think the repercussion will be?. All in all, may God help us all, myself included. And please, no judgemental statement to anyone, if and truly, you believe in God. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by sundayslim(m): 3:35pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Toks2008: Your sickness na follow come. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Joanne00: 5:09pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
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Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Billygee2u: 6:47pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
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Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by dguyindcorner(m): 6:58pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
torddy4u: The white men that brought the Gospel are not extremist like you guys. Pastors over there take wine before starting to preach to ease off cold. Many of you take Bacchus n co but condemned those that take guiness, what a hypocrite!! This is nation that claims spiritual pass and you still see all sorts of immoralities dangling like never before. Stop this hypocrisy or the drunkard will meet you in hell. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by dguyindcorner(m): 7:07pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
ByfireByfire: You still are not addressing the issue. Ahh, face the message and not the messenger. Show us one scripture that was quoted by the OP that is not in your own Bible. How are you different from the OP you are criticizing if all you could do is to encourage me to continue with masturbation (the one I did in your sight)? Instead of you to tell us why it is a sin according to the scripture, you result to insult.Is this the way Jesus teach you? Yet you are Christ-like o. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by spencerwilliams(m): 7:37pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Toks2008:@op i really appreciate the work you are helping the devil to do, but i want to quickly warn you to ask for mercy and understanding of the scriptures so you don't unconsciously do the work of lucifer, now concerning the scriptures you quoted backing various points, i would like to draw your attention to 1timothy 2:9 "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with SHAMEDFACEDNESS and SOBRIETY NOT with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array" just do yourself a favour by using your dictionary on the two bolded words, and tell me what they mean in consonant with women's dressing. i wount say much. Shalom!! |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by elomepee: 8:36pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Hmmmmmm, you took your time. Eye opening anyway. May God help |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by ByfireByfire: 9:15pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
dguyindcorner: If the scriptures I too quoted earlier on this matter is not good enough then nothing is. If you are waiting for the scriptures to state point blank "stop maturbation" before you are agree then also wait for the scriptures to state "go and eat', before you ever eat any meal. The way it is right now. Even if God descends from heaven to tell you to stop that evil you'll tell him off. Your mind and that of the Op is already reprobate and have degenerated to the level of apostasy. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by cloudgoddess(f): 10:03pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
raffite:What makes you think people are even capable of "spending eternity" anywhere? If you damage a person's brain, you can damage their consciousness. They black out. They are no longer experiencing anything in vision, hearing, sight, touch, or taste. So what makes you think when a person dies and their brains/eyes/skin/etc stops functioning permanently, they will be able to experience things? What evidence do you have for that? |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Jbryte(m): 11:03pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Mr Op sir, I'm not here to judge you but to speak the truth alone. So, I'm using this medium to pray for you that God shall reveal to you in His true self like He did for Saul(Paul) in Jesus name! From your write up, it is vivid that you know the Bible but sadly, you are manipulating it to suit the idol of your heart. Ezekiel 14:3 3:Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their hearts and put the stumbling block of their iniquity and guilt before their faces; should I permit Myself to be inquired of at all by them? Jesus Christ the son of God, through the Holy spirit had already made the privilege of the better understanding of the Word. 1.John 5:20-21 20:And we [have seen and] know [positively] that the Son of God has [actually] come to this world and has given us understanding and insight [progressively] to perceive (recognize) and come to know better and more clearly Him Who is true; and we are in Him Who is true—in His Son Jesus Christ (the Messiah). This [Man] is the true God and Life eternal. 21. little children, keep yourselves from idols (false gods)—[from anything and everything that would occupy the place in your heart due to God, from any sort of substitute for Him that would take first place in your life]. Amen (so let it be). The word which is God Himself (John 1:1) if we submit to the Holy spirit. The spirit helps our infirmities. so if we work in the spirit, we shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Galatians 5:16. Jesus Christ my master has come to warn us against the end(perilous) time we are in presently including these verses below but it is saddening that people are no longer readers and friend of the Bible. 2.Peter 2:1-3 .1:But also [in those days] there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among yourselves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines (destructive heresies), even denying and disowning the Master Who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2.And many will follow their immoral ways and lascivious doings; because of them the true Way will be maligned and defamed. 3.And in their covetousness (lust, greed) they will exploit you with false (cunning) arguments. From of old the sentence [of condemnation] for them has not been idle; their destruction (eternal misery) has not been asleep. AND Matthew 24:3-14. 3.While He was seated on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately and said, Tell us, when will this take place, and what will be the sign of Your coming and of the end (the completion, the consummation) 4.Jesus answered them, Be careful that no one misleads you [deceiving you and leading you into error]. 5.For many will come in (on the strength of) My name [appropriating the name which belongs to Me], saying, I am the Christ (the Messiah), and they will lead many astray. 6.And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened or troubled, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7:For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in place after place; 8.All this is but the beginning [the early pains] of the birth pangs [of the intolerable anguish] 9.Then they will hand you over to suffer affliction and tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake 10:And then many will be offended and repelled and will begin to distrust and desert [Him Whom they ought to trust and obey] and will stumble and fall away and betray one another and pursue one another with hatred. 11.And many false prophets will rise up and deceive and lead many into error. 12:And the love of the great body of people will grow cold because of the multiplied lawlessness and iniquity, 13.But he who endures to the end will be saved. 14:And this good news of the kingdom (the Gospel) will be preached throughout the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then will come the end. And this is the main reason why brethren in the Lord are being deceived because their hearts are far from God, they delight in following doctored-God's word also utter it for filty self righteousness. Isaiah 29:13 13:Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men. Mark 7:8. 8:You disregard and give up and ask to depart from you the commandment of God and cling to the tradition of men [keeping it carefully and faithfully] But I'm also glad that the true believers and followers, redeemed in Christ shall not be deceived if the Holy spirit dwells in them. Ephesians 4:13-15 13:[That it might develop] until we all attain oneness in the faith and in the comprehension of the [full and accurate] knowledge of the Son of God, that [we might arrive] at really mature manhood (the completeness of personality which is nothing less than the standard height of Christ’s own perfection), the measure of the stature of the fullness of the Christ and the completeness found in Him. 14:So then, we may no longer be children, tossed [like ships] to and fro between chance gusts of teaching and wavering with every changing wind of doctrine, [the prey of] the cunning and cleverness of unscrupulous men, [gamblers engaged] in every shifting form of trickery in inventing errors to mislead. 15:Rather, let our lives lovingly express truth [in all things, speaking truly, dealing truly, living truly]. Enfolded in love, let us grow up in every way and in all things into Him Who is the Head, [even] Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One). My priceless advice for Mr Op is to put off the urge of fulfilling the desires of flesh which is the traces of the old man. If any one is in Christ old things are passed away and all things new. I'm sorry I had to say this; I doubt your salvation. So pls plead for forgiveness from God for misleading people. God is merciful. Rededicate your life to Christ and He'll accept you back. Ask for the Holy spirit to give you a new heart according to promise Ezekiel 36:26 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind Ephesians 4:22-24. 22:Strip yourselves of your former nature [put off and discard your old unrenewed self] which characterized your previous manner of life and becomes corrupt through lusts and desires that spring from delusion; 23:And be constantly renewed in the spirit of your mind [having a fresh mental and spiritual attitude], 24:And put on the new nature (the regenerate self) created in God’s image, [Godlike] in true righteousness and holiness. Right from the days of John the Baptist, the kingdom of God suffers violent and the violent take it by force. Matt 11:12. The violent here are those that consecrate their body ,soul and spirit for God. They are those that are not conformed to this world Roman :122. So let us us all repent to escape the fierce wroth of God upon the earth. Let's be careful, Satan is not a joker 1 Peter 5:8 8:Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour. Only Jesus Christ gives life. It is well. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by derecho(m): 5:21am On Dec 15, 2015 |
Paul reminded Timothy of a time like this,in 2Timothy 3. He told him of "lovers of pleasures than lovers of God", "dispisers of things that are good", "men of corrupt minds,reprobate concerning the faith", "having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof" He went on to say the following, But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which is able to make you wise... Summary,Avoid and turn away from whoever has a form of godliness but denying the power.The grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lust(Titus 2:11) |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by promise3048(m): 7:37am On Dec 15, 2015 |
175:guy u like ur d.p |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by dguyindcorner(m): 9:28am On Dec 15, 2015 |
ByfireByfire: I must state this, this is not Christ-like! Are u judging me? Have you caught me in the act at all? Repent!!! |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by ByfireByfire: 11:36am On Dec 15, 2015 |
dguyindcorner: Shameless masturbators that have zero integrity telling folks that reject maturbation to repent?? Total madness!!! Even the devil will be surprised. What do you know about Christlikeness. Christ rebuked and punished sin both when he was in the flesh and when He was glorified. And if I go hard against your wilful obstinacy that means I'm not Christlike? Not surprised cos its evident that you both are sworn to iniquity. |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by mrphysics(m): 11:01pm On Dec 15, 2015 |
I have carefully followed this post till this last page for now. I made several observations and learnt many things too. some of the things I observed about the op are: His basis or background is denominationally influenced. He has NEVER allowed the Holy spirit to talk or direct him. He has a fixed answer, anyone who does not tell him what he wants to hear irrespective of the Bible passages quoted has not said anything. His 27 yrs of Christianity to say is questionable in the light of what he has said. He has no life of his own. the Word of God has not become flesh to him. I saw the efforts made by learned gentlemen here to which he the op thinks he knows them all. He will never learn. seeing his level of understanding, people wouldn't mind to bother him with bible passages, he is only here to argue the Bible to his own destruction. I personally have many Bible passages to lay a foundation for the op. if he is interested, let him add me on watsapp tru my public line. Every Christian must study the word of God so as not to be deceived by this little write up of the op. I was once like him and I have met many Christ embass member like him. we have looked at the bible word to word, but because they have a fixed answer, they only live to their destruction. op please add me so we can lay a firm foundation and understanding of the Scripture. so many persons here do not have the time and energy to start typing and uploading bible verses to prove you wrong. to those who stood strongly for the undiluted doctrine, just like Jude 3 and 4, I urge you to continue . and may God keep rewarding you all. so many persons do not know what the law as used in the old testament is. so many persons don't understand the writings of Paul, St peter in the conclusion of his letter stated it that Paul wrote in words that is very hard for people to understand to which they have interpreted to their own destruction. God bless the church of Christ. 1 Like |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by mine42: 3:18pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Toks2008: I can understand how u feel. Yes don't engage in self servicing nor alcohol but I'm still waiting for someone to prove u wrong by backing it up wt a scripture. Please prove the OP is wrong wt a scripture pls! |
Re: 8 false Teachings by Churches And The Biblical Truths Concerning them. by Toks2008(m): 3:39pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
mine42: Honestly i am so put aback and when i write all these,i was meticulous in backing them up from the scriptures but these people quickly assume im supporting all i wrote from my understanding expecially the act of masturbating. We must be careful not to equate bad habit with sinsful habits. We have sinful acts and YEs we also have bad habbits and not all bad habbits are sinful Betting is a bad habbit yet i dont see where the bible calls it sin. Anything you do that has a potential of becoming addictive should be discouraged. So when people argue about self servicing lets not mix words,if you see it as a bad habit please stop and if you come to me to ask i will tell you straight up,go marry to avoid it and avoid it if you can because like every other habit if unchecked can be addictive. Like i am addicted to reading and i can read and read all through without mixing with people..i am also checking my addiction to writing so shall we say i am sinning?HELL NO. So i repeat,i hate it when people who out to have sound mind come to start ranting without doing the needful. Thanks for pointing it out again and till this moment,i stil wait for a counter notion from the bible and not from funny bias human psychology. |
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