penfold:

Really, we should be very careful about some of our posts on this forum (i guess its fortunate that you cannot sue for libel or defamation thru the internet)

The true facts about itedo village:

Itedo community and the ikate elegushi community are currently embroiled in court case over the said plots of land, ikate elegushi family having granted a lease to the itedo community (who are ilajes from ondo state) about 60 years ago, the said lease being for 50 years (that means it expired 10 years ago). On the expiration of the lease, the ikate elegushi community refused to renew the lease (i no blame them, the market value of the land don increase about 1,000,000 times), itedo claimed that they could not be ejected from the land, thus they went to court. after a series of judgements, the courts ruled in favour of the elegushis, the itedos then appealed. the court then ordered that the status quo should be maintained on the land pendinmg determination of the appeal. meanwhile the land had been sold to all sorts of people (commissioners in fashola govt, and iyabo obasanjo inclusive). the several cases on the land and the court order made it impossible to process C of O, or even get building approval from the relevant authorities. All previous approvals and certificates on the land were then revoked. fashola, being who he is, woke up one day and decided all buildings without relevant documents should be demolished (as is usual with our "gomina", not because of any religious or political reasons).
the residents refused to take this lying low, hence, we took LASG to court.
P.E.R.I.O.D

penfold:

Really, we should be very careful about some of our posts on this forum (i guess its fortunate that you cannot sue for libel or defamation thru the internet)

The true facts about itedo village:

Itedo community and the ikate elegushi community are currently embroiled in court case over the said plots of land, ikate elegushi family having granted a lease to the itedo community (who are ilajes from ondo state) about 60 years ago, the said lease being for 50 years (that means it expired 10 years ago). On the expiration of the lease, the ikate elegushi community refused to renew the lease (i no blame them, the market value of the land don increase about 1,000,000 times), itedo claimed that they could not be ejected from the land, thus they went to court. after a series of judgements, the courts ruled in favour of the elegushis, the itedos then appealed. the court then ordered that the status quo should be maintained on the land pendinmg determination of the appeal. meanwhile the land had been sold to all sorts of people (commissioners in fashola govt, and iyabo obasanjo inclusive). the several cases on the land and the court order made it impossible to process C of O, or even get building approval from the relevant authorities. All previous approvals and certificates on the land were then revoked. fashola, being who he is, woke up one day and decided all buildings without relevant documents should be demolished (as is usual with our "gomina", not because of any religious or political reasons).
the residents refused to take this lying low, hence, we took LASG to court.
P.E.R.I.O.D

penfold:

Really, we should be very careful about some of our posts on this forum (i guess its fortunate that you cannot sue for libel or defamation thru the internet)

The true facts about itedo village:

Itedo community and the ikate elegushi community are currently embroiled in court case over the said plots of land, ikate elegushi family having granted a lease to the itedo community (who are ilajes from ondo state) about 60 years ago, the said lease being for 50 years (that means it expired 10 years ago). On the expiration of the lease, the ikate elegushi community refused to renew the lease (i no blame them, the market value of the land don increase about 1,000,000 times), itedo claimed that they could not be ejected from the land, thus they went to court. after a series of judgements, the courts ruled in favour of the elegushis, the itedos then appealed. the court then ordered that the status quo should be maintained on the land pendinmg determination of the appeal. meanwhile the land had been sold to all sorts of people (commissioners in fashola govt, and iyabo obasanjo inclusive). the several cases on the land and the court order made it impossible to process C of O, or even get building approval from the relevant authorities. All previous approvals and certificates on the land were then revoked. fashola, being who he is, woke up one day and decided all buildings without relevant documents should be demolished (as is usual with our "gomina", not because of any religious or political reasons).
the residents refused to take this lying low, hence, we took LASG to court.
P.E.R.I.O.D

penfold:

Yeah!!! you guys might be right about the government owning the land and all that, but let's consider two points of law (which incidentally is the pivotal axis of the whole case)

1. what makes a building illegal - i guess you will say that building without approval or on govt acquisition (sic) land!!!, the question then is this, what about a plot of land which belongs to a family, who sold the land, and a general c of o issued by the government, which also gave provisional approval for a structure, construction of the building then started, only for the government to revoke the approval and c of o because of a court injuction. does this then make the building, which was once legal (when the govt gave approval) become illegal (when the govt revoked the approval)?

2. there was a court order that the two "warring" families, the occupants of the land and all other parties should maintain the status quo, pending determination of the appeal.
pls what does it mean to "maintain the status quo" - Fashola's govt clearly contravened this court order in two respects, 1. by revoking all permits and approvals on the land and   2. by attempting to demolish structures already in existence on the land - unless they are saying that the court order does not concern them cuz they are not an interested party, in that case, they should leave the community alone!!!!!
- anybody that knows fashola should warn him o, he is in danger of being held in contempt of court orders and being slammed into jail!!!! but seriously, i believe its just the overzealousness of the planning officials thats the cause of all these mess!!


@debosky,
i didnt say NO Cof O was given, some buildings actually have all the approvals, Cof Os and permits complete, with the buildings 85% complete before the govt now decided to revoke all the approvals, JUST BECAUSE OF THE COURT CASE!!! Like i said, does that now make the building illegal?, also, does revoking the planning and building permits of a building that is almost complete conform to the court injuction that all parties should maintain the status quo?

Jakumo:

Pastor Eunuch is in deep chit now.   Muahaha.

Whatever you do Eunuch, remember to try and keep bulldozers out of your dreams at night, lest you just straight out totally lose it, snap, and go postal.

Moonstone:

Why should Lagos State govt sell lands like that? Obviously, if they are taking this case to court, they have legal and proper documentation. I think they should be reimbursed and sent on their way.

Lagosboy:

Fashola is doing the right thing and any illegal strucutre that contribute a nuisance to the environment should be taken down. Lagos need infrastructure for the 22nd century and if it is buildings that would stop that from happening it should be taken down and compensation paid. If it is illegal then i am sorry illegality has no place in law.

penfold:

**sigh** [/i]this argument don dey tire me o!![i]

i beg make una dey read my responses well before replying o, am tired of replying to unrelated issues!!!!

@debosky,
that is the point, all we are saying is that LASG's reason for revoking the Cof O's should be able to stand up to scrutiny in the courts (there should be a reason, not because the ownership of the land is in dispute!!)

@larez
1. "the good of many" you said, the "many" being who? the plaintiff or the defendant? the said properties are not on the right of way, proposed road routes, proposed or existing drainage site, under overhead cables, sited on the "green" area, or on areas meant for commercial use, the sole reason for revoking the approvals was "because there is contention between several parties as to the proper ownership of the area". so what good does that do to "many". The proper thing for LASG to do was to have stopped issuing further approvals in the area and ensure that people don't continue building there i.e to stop further development pending determination of the suit, and not to demolish. Now what if the case is decided in favour of the people who sold the land to owners of such buildings, what happens, which is why the court ordered that the staus quo should be maintained until the case is decided (or does LASG has foreknowledge of the outcome of the case?),

2. Of course the government is a party to the case, the judiciary is an arm of government and its decision is binding on all the other components, i stand to be corrected but i believe government is an entity, the judiciary is separate from the executive but not different. in the light of that, look at it this way, govt (judiciary) said nobody should do anything on the plots of land until a decision is taken by govt (judiciary), meanwhile govt (executive) now wants to tear down the structures on the land. is govt (executive) saying that govt (judiciary) erred in ruling that no activity whatsoever should happen on the said plots. (it is to avoid conflicts like this that the legislature does not deliberate on issues already in court)

3. naivety or not, the law is simple enough for all to understand, and pray, which one of my statements confirms the "typical nigerian big man ego", i particularly detest being misquoted!!!!!

***and besides if its about dealing directly with the top man as you allege, then the serving commissioners in fashola's cabinet who have their residences in the area would have no need to go to court to seek redress, they would have simply talked to "the boss" (as you said).  the fact that they are, in their personal capacity, party to the suit shows that this is not about "settling" it, it is about the rule of law, 
also, thanks for being so concerned about where i will "pack go" before the bulldozers come, God has lifted us past that level.
CIAO!!

Kobojunkie:

In much the same way, these citizens, organizations are doing the right thing by contesting the right of the government to take demolish property that they believe is legal and they have proof of. Regardless of lagos’s need for 22nd century infrastructure, Lagos needs to respect the rights of the people even as it pushes forward. We cannot throw the rights of the people under the bus simply because we want development. Development should respect the rights of the people.

The organizations and individuals are in the right here. They have chosen to take their case to court which is the way things ought to be done in a civilized society. The outcome of the case will be determined by the courts, but I do hope that justice is served in this; if the buildings are found to be legal, the government should allow them stand or look to compensate the owners before it moves forward to demolish. If the buildings are found to be illegal, then the owners need to look for alternative legal sites for their structures.

Can we all please stop acting like kids and stop making Lagos/Fashola issues into some good guy-vs.-bad guy/ You-are-evil-if-you-are against-my-side fight on here? It is ridiculous, annoying and seriously childish that adults will continue to, after all their years on this planet; argue anything in such a myopic and uncouth way.

bumajj:

It beats me hollow when I hear or read about people like IReport, or whatever, who fan the amber of religious intolerance, and quick to read insane sentiments to whatever perceived good the government is trying to do. If a church, shrine, or mosque is built on illegal area, why the cry over whether it should be demolished or not, regardless of who the OWNER is - Adeboye or whoever. I also noticed that such unwarranted criticisms would usually come from those who worship men, rather than God. I mean those who deify their pastors, especially the so-called Redeemed church members. How do they describe Adeboye? "Daddy GO", who has been so worshipped that he is ranked next to the Queen of England, "who is above the Law". All of you should bury your heads in shame, that you are been taught not the TRUE words of God, but tradition of men.