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Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by dammytosh: 6:54pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
neocortex: I am not gifted to teach dumb people obvious things. Let me try. 1. Nobody knows Nigeria's position as population census was done years ago. Some school of thought says 7th while some says 9th. None can lay claim to accuracy as Mortality and birth rate is unknown since the last population census. Most things out there are simply speculations 2. Any agency adding to the bottom line of the federal Government is REVENUE GENERATING. They remit some amount of money from time to time. CBN and NCC generates revenue too. In 2012, Auditor general said CBN was the highest revenue generating agency for that year. With revenue running into billions. (One will think that is a very simple question for a graduate no wonder employment rate is very high) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Tomjazzy2: 6:56pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
...and so I decided to open a thread where I objectively raised some salient points, backing same with relevant authorities when counter-arguments were put forward by some civil nairalanders. Having taken a calm look at most of the comments this thread has elicited, I can not but realize that some people are so pained that when ever they come across any thread not singing the praise of PMB, they trow caution to the wind and resort to name calling and making primordial arguments. Well, for the sake of knowledge and the furtherance of same, I make bold to challenge any one who thinks he/she has what it takes to objectively water down any of the points so raised in this thread, to indicate and step forward. Until that is done, I will allow y'all to be having the fun of your lives, while I observe from the back seat 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by dammytosh: 6:58pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2: dammytosh: You have ur answers you can deny it once again 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by saint047(m): 7:01pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Buhari's speech didn't tell us anything new - "I won the elections, Jonathan conceded, Boko Haram & IDPs, Power & NNPC, I sent the list" 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by gsparks01(m): 7:12pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2:and it seems that you're are just not interested in knowing that the speech had no error as you claim. It sure seems like you're the one who will stop at nothing in belittling and undermining the Buhari administration. You have work to do o! It's FOUR years 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Tomjazzy2: 7:14pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
dammytosh: Did you take out time to dig out the UN world population Report I cited? I hope you understand that even when there are conflicting opinions on any particular subject matter, opinions of international organizations like the UN are[b] HIGHLY[/b] regarded? I never refuted the claim that the CBN and NCC do not have the capacity of generating funds internally, I however asked if they are STRICTLY, revenue generating agencies, bearing in mind their core functionalities. 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by tuniski: 7:18pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
989900:nonsense it could have been u writing the speech. The observations were well on point. They were errors QED! 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by meforyou1(m): 7:20pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2:CBN and NCC are revenue generating agencies. Take it like that 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Nobody: 7:25pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
engrhorla: Cheers Bro 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by lilyayo(m): 7:38pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
like seriously u jus making a mockery of urself bro everything the president said is correct I guess u didnt do a thorough research before coming out here to make noise 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by neocortex: 7:52pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
dammytosh: You didn't disappoint me one bit, you are not different form other trolls on Nairaland. I asked you two simple questions but you ended up beating about the bush just to sound smart. There is hardly any important topic in the world that does not have some level of controversy surrounding them , that doesn't preclude smart people from making wise decisions on such. You can wallow in your ignorance for all I care. |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by neocortex: 8:01pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2: Don't be surprised because many are paid trolls and part of their job is to shout down any opposing voice of reason. No need being deterred by such thuggish behaviors. 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Nobody: 8:18pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2: Are you a Narcissist? You better check yourself out because you have been schooled to the depth in previous posts on this thread. Please don't keep on wasting our time with "much ado about nothing" 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Sheikwonder(m): 8:26pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2: Why are you dragging yourself further down this quagmire of ignominy? The President referred to the audit of CBN & NCC as OTHER revenue generating agencies as against the NNPC and co. which provide the oil revenue and are being audited. Are you this impervious to reason? What can you possibly stand to gain by towing this line of irrationality? Do the CBN & NCC generate revenue? Yes! So stop parading your ignorance and just accept that you erred. 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Enice(m): 8:31pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2:so the word STRICTLY is what makes the President embarrassing to the international community? You insult your president because NCC and CBN are not strictly revenue generating agencies? 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by meforyou1(m): 8:39pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Enice:I am a Jonathanian, but I like people to make criticisms with facts and knowledge. Is there any department or agency of the government tasked with strictly generating revenue for the government? Fact is CBN and NCC generates revenue for the government. 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Dannyset(m): 9:00pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
OnReflection: You don't know some people don't know the meaning of population projection. If this thread was taken to FP, this OP would have received the disgrace of his life. He just goofed all round the place. 2 Likes |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by OKUCHI11(m): 9:07pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
dammytosh:so u know that school did nt help any 1 ........hmmm ....com my shop com learn or u will serve me for seven years me with ur certificate ...cos I can see the anguish of unemployment in you 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by 3kay945(m): 9:51pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
likata: Though PMB is my man but your comment still amuse me. |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by wirinet(m): 9:56pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
evilspirit: Yes GSM licence was sold for $285 million each . Econet and MTN were able to beat the deadline for payment, but Adenuga's CTL was unable to meet the deadline so they had to forfeit their $20 milliondeposit. Less than a year latter Adenuga through his new company Globacom paid $200 million dollars for national carrier license, meaning he can operate all telecommunication services including international gateway and not just GSM References - http://naijagists.com/mike-adenuga-biography-the-richest-man-in-nigeria/ edit: I mistakenly wrote the Globacom bought the national carrier license for $1BILLION, it was actually $200 million. Apologies for the mix up. 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Tomjazzy2: 10:20pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
For the records, did any one here watch Nancy Iloh's "Money Show" that featured a former deputy Governor of the CBN today on AIT? Paraphrasing her opening remarks, "I was taken aback when the President did mention the CBN as a revenue generating agency..." Then she quickly asked the guest (former CBN duputy governor) for his thoughts on that. Although the guest smartly didn't categorically state that the President erred, he did point out that the CBN strickly speaking, isn't a revenue generating agency. Unfortunately, I don't know how to make use of google or any other similar online search engines, y'all that are learned enough should take further pleasure in cross checking my source. 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by ideykwum: 10:34pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Good criticism! Tomjazzy2: 2 Likes |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by mapet: 10:37pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
wirinet: Besides a Nigerian president (on a day like October 1st) WILL only rely on the CURRENT and OFFICIAL census figures and not some random website or supposed UN figures 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by mapet: 10:47pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
engrhorla: ...and you don't know tha wikipedia is; 1. Not a certified reference source 2. an open source that anybody updates Do you quote wikipedia in your school projects? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by mapet: 11:05pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2: @OP 1. I'm trying to place your gaffe here. Is it the case of educated ignorance, blatant arrogance, ridiculous ignorance or crass immaturity. 2. There is absolutely nothing wrong in punching holes in PMB's speech. If the motive is altruistic (as it is obviously not), then it will serve to enlighten our collective development. Unfortunately your heading itself gave you away, what international embarrassment? 3. It will seem to me you have unfortunately overrated your intellectual capabilities. Not that you don't have them, but humility can lighten it up many at times. You'll have appeared smarter, If you've approached this from a POV of opening up a debate. You claim to have painstakingly reviewed the speech, yet you demonstrate shortcomings that belie your "painstakingness". I mean quoting referencing that are not certified, not understanding contexts and getting into the complicated mess of what should and should not be revenue generating agency? 3 Likes |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by mikolo80: 11:09pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2: my google says 8th most populous how would you feel if i called you an embarrassment for information you no know how dem(oyinnbo) take generateke silverback wen koji de hook yet you're beating chest li
define revenue generating anywhere you pay money mtn et al pay for licenses fines mast approval same with cbn from banks so you see how unintellient you look now when all you needed was to do some elementary thinking outside your closed dense box
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Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by NewNigeriaMind: 11:35pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
The creator of this thread just didn't understand the meaning of terms used in finance. So for clarity purposes, there are no errors in the speech. 1 the population of Nigeria as it stands cannot be accurately ascertained. But if you are quoting a source for academic purposes, pls leave out the wiki. It will do you a lot of good in the future if you can note this point. 2. For those that might not know, the CBN and NCC are in fact revenue generating agencies. Get their annual budgets, these agencies have revenue projections and other income. Now people, pls let's forgive the guy. 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Neverquit(f): 11:52pm On Oct 01, 2015 |
First of all ...I can't get enough of that emoji. I am neither for nor against Buhari, I am for good governance. I could care less the person responsible for enacting that change. That being said, let us be objective in our criticism of the government. Let's be open minded. If we made errors, let's be willing to make and accept corrections. Op, you goofed. When I read your post, it got me thinking that Buhari goofed, then I read the counter arguments. The counter arguments made me realized that I also goofed because I didn't do my own research. I eventually did. Please y'all, don't let your blatant hatred for this government to cloud your judgment. Let us be objective. 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by Hannysmilez(f): 12:36am On Oct 02, 2015 |
Tomjazzy2:First of all you started the name calling. I do not know if Nigeria is the 7th or 9th most populous nation but what I do know is this. Buhari is OUR President,wether we call him a dullard or an illetrate doesn't change it. Secondly,we are Africans and Im sure we were taught 2respect our elders. That man is someone's father,uncle,grandpa nd husband,he is 72 for crying out loud whereas im nt sure ure 50 yet. Give honor to whom it's due. At least not goin to school is the reason for his dumbness. Patience Jonathan has a Doctorate degree or so I heard and what do we have to show for it, "...all the blood you are sharing in 'Borunu'?!?" 2 Likes |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by 989900: 12:55am On Oct 02, 2015 |
tuniski: What observations are on point? And what are the errors? 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by IceDude(m): 1:04am On Oct 02, 2015 |
Boss13:Single tenure ke? Am sure Robert Mugabe said the same thing before i was born 1 Like |
Re: Pmb's Independence Day Speech: An International Embarassment? by leofab(f): 1:12am On Oct 02, 2015 |
snakie86:so NPF should be listed as an IGR source also? |
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