johnydon22:


Quick refrence..

Define Pedophilia for me...

Define a child for me...

This will never work for you i suggest you don't defend it. . . simply call pedophilia pedophilia and don't mince words.

Anyway if you want a go lets go then...

mustymatic:

In the coming century, 20 yrs of age might be act of pedophilia, if there was any inconvenience back then, spit it out.

OZAOEKPE:

54 years old man to a 6-9 years old man, what is there to justify. Just plea on behalf of the man that did it, and we going to forgive him.

mustymatic:

Even Jesus has no such power nigga

OZAOEKPE:

Hehehehehehehehehehehe, I don't argue religion anymore, but supporting a 54 years old man for having sex with a 9 years old child is weird. No sane man will support this, even a mad man won't try it not to talk of a sane man. Its not a thing to be proud of, its a big shame and disgrace. Quote me back and I won't reply, I'm above religious arguments

johnydon22:

Ok lets go bro buckle up...
Muhammed married his wife Aisha at what age ??

johnydon22:

Ok lets go bro buckle up...
Muhammed married his wife Aisha at what age ??

madjnr:


seventh-century
Arabia, adulthood was defined as the onset
of puberty. (This much is true, and was also
the case in Europe: five centuries after
Muhammad's marriage to Aisha, 33-year-old
King John of England married 12-year-old
Isabella of Angoulême.) Interestingly, of the
many criticisms of Muhammad made at the
time by his opponents, none focused on
Aisha's age at marriage.

madjnr:


seventh-century
Arabia, adulthood was defined as the onset
of puberty. (This much is true, and was also
the case in Europe: five centuries after
Muhammad's marriage to Aisha, 33-year-old
King John of England married 12-year-old
Isabella of Angoulême.) Interestingly, of the
many criticisms of Muhammad made at the
time by his opponents, none focused on
Aisha's age at marriage.

Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the
captives of war] 32,000
women who had never slept
with a man....... of which the
tribute for the LORD was 32
[among them were virgin girls]
. "
Even though GOD Almighty's
share of the 32 virgin girls is
metaphoric, meaning that He
didn't come down and have sex
with them, but if any wants to
call Prophet Muhammad a
pedophile or womanizer for
marrying (not forcing into sex)
a young girl and marrying
multiple women throughout his
life, then he should not only
call his Biblical Prophets as
such, but also the GOD of
Israel Himself!
Some Facts:
1-
The Bible's Prophets, and
even Roman Emperors
married girls
as young as 8!
[ 1 ]
2-
Mary got pregnant
between the ages of 11
and 14
[ 2 ]
.
3-
The minimum age for
marriage in the US-State
of Delaware in year
1880 was 7
[ 3 ]
.
4-
According to the Jewish
Talmud, as we've seen
above, Prophet Moses
and his followers had
sex with girls as young
as 3 years old
[ 4 ]
. Yes, THREE years old.
You read it right.

The Common Law age of consent
was 10. The French penal code raised the
age from 11 to 13 only a century ago. In
England, it was only in 1929 (70 years ago)
that the ancient Christian minimum age for the
marriage of females, which was 12,

In the US (an example of a prominent
western country, since the west had the
greatest effect on the world in the last
couple of centuries.) They considered a seven
year old female competent on making
decisions regarding sex, though it was raised
later on (in 1886, after attempts to raise the
age of consent, Delaware was the only state
to retain the common law age of seven, while
twenty five states set the minimum age at a
mere ten.) In older times, children were not
perceived in the same sense that we perceive
them, but the perception was changed
gradually, which is due to a great extent to
industrialization, and of course sigmund freud
and others came along with their theories and
supported these changes in social thinking (the
word adolescent itself was introduced as
recently as 1904.)

madjnr:

Stop quoting the quran out of context pls....... If you know nothing about Islam.... Keep shut

madjnr:

seventh-century Arabia, adulthood was defined as the onset
of puberty. (This much is true, and was also the case in Europe: five centuries after
Muhammad's marriage to Aisha, 33-year-old King John of England married 12-year-old Isabella of Angoulême.) Interestingly, of the many criticisms of Muhammad made at the time by his opponents, none focused on Aisha's age at marriage.

madjnr:
Age Limit in Age of Consent
Laws in Selected Countries
1880
1920
2007
Austria
14
14
14
Belgium
-
16
16
Bulgaria
13
13
14
Denmark
12
12
15
England & Wales
13
16
16
Finland
-
12
16
France
13
13
15
Germany
14
14
14
Greece
-
12
15
Italy
-
16
14
Luxembourg
15
15
16
Norway
-
16
16
Portugal
12
12
14
Romania
15
15
15
Russia
10
14
16
Scotland
12
12
16
Spain
12
12
13
Sweden
15
15
15
Switzerland
various
16
16
Turkey
15
15
18
Argentina
-
12
13
Brazil
-
16
14
Chile
20
20
18
Ecuador
-
14
14
Canada
12
14
14
Australia
New South Wales
12
16
16
Queensland
12
17
16
Victoria
12
16
16
Western Australia
12
14
16
United States
Alabama
10
16
16
Alaska
-
16
16
Arizona
12
18
18
Arkansas
10
16
16
California
10
18
18
Colorado
10
18
15
Connecticut
10
16
16
District of Columbia
12
16
16
Delaware
7
16
16
Florida
10
18
18
Georgia
10
14
16
Hawaii
-
-
16
Idaho
10
18
18
Illinois
10
16
17
Indiana
12
16
16
Iowa
10
16
16
Kansas
10
18
16
Kentucky
12
16
16
Louisiana
12
18
17
Maine
10
16
16
Maryland
10
16
16
Massachusetts
10
16
16
Michigan
10
16
16
Minnesota
10
18
16
Mississippi
10
18
16
Missouri
12
18
17
Montana
10
18
16
Nebraska
10
18
17
Nevada
12
18
16
New Hampshire
10
16
16
New Jersey
10
16
16
New Mexico
10
16
17
New York
10
18
17
North Carolina
10
16
16
North Dakota
10
18
18
Ohio
10
16
16
Oklahoma
-
-
16
Oregon
10
16
18
Pennsylvania
10
16
16
Rhode Island
10
16
16
South Carolina
10
16
16
South Dakota
10
18
16
Tennessee
10
18
18
Texas
10
18
17
Utah
10
18
16
Vermont
10
16
16
Virginia
12
16
18
Washington
12
18
16
West Virginia
12
16
16
Wisconsin
10
16
18
Wyoming
10
16
16
Source: "Age of Consent
Laws [ Table ]," in Children
and Youth in History, Item #
24, http://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/
primary-sources/24
(accessed March 2, 2013).
Annotated by Stephen
Robertson.
And the polytheist trinitarian
pagans have the nerve to
speak about pedophilia? Thank
you brother 'There is only
one God' for this valuable
information. I will insha'Allah
propagate it on the website.
Never forget also that
according to the Roman
Catholics' Encyclopedia "New
Advent", Mary was as young
as 12 when she married 99-
year old Joseph. This means
that she was around 11 when
she got pregnant with Jesus.

johnydon22:


Now lets see this cheap defence..

Adulthood - the On set of puberty

Puberty averages 12-13 years.

Muhammad married Aisha at the age of 6

Consummated it at the age of 9

Even in all ramifications she was still a child. . . . Please is this not pedophilia?

Common bring more ...

tartar9:
Aisha(RA) was about 12 when she started living with the Holy Prophet(SAW)

tartar9:
I said living

johnydon22:


So you agree he married her at six and consummated it at 9... That is pedophilia.

whether she started living with him at the age of 100 or not..

tartar9:
the only thing you are thinking about is sex.how is it pedophilia?

johnydon22:


So you don't even know what pedophilia is....

When a grown man haves sex with a child of 9... it is called pedophilia..

tartar9:
the only thing you are thinking about is sex.how could it have happened if they weren't even living together?

johnydon22:


So you don't even know what pedophilia is....

When a grown man haves sex with a child of 9... it is called pedophilia..

TheDauraMallam:


When a grown man has sex with someone who is not yet the age of consen: ie reason to distinguish right from wrong, make personal decisions.

Annunaki:


No matter how much al taquiya Muslims deny it, isis and boko haram are practising pure islam.

And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do
Quoran 8:39

tartar9:
Aisha(RA) was about 12 when she started living with the Holy Prophet(SAW)

johnydon22:


Now lets see this cheap defence..

Adulthood - the On set of puberty

Puberty averages 12-13 years.

Muhammad married Aisha at the age of 6

Consummated it at the age of 9

Even in all ramifications she was still a child. . . . Please is this not pedophilia?

Common bring more ...

ProfessorPeter:
which prophet Moses ? Islamic prophet or Jewish prophet? Just imagined an old man sleeping with a girl of three years old. Will you give your daughter of three years old to somebody who is of the age of your great grandfather?

plappville:


Keep contracting islam....lie is what muslims drink like water..

Annunaki:


So in your warped thinking a six year old is old enough to consent to marriage and by implication sex

madjnr:
Islam is called "Islam", "Selm", and
"Salam" in the Glorious Quran:
"The Religion before God is Islam
( ﺍﻻﺳﻼﻡ submission to His Will)...."
(The Noble Quran, 3:19) .
"O ye who believe! Enter into Islam
( ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﺴﻠﻢ into the Selm (another
name for Islam) ) whole-heartedly;
and follow not the footsteps of the
evil one; for he is to you an
avowed enemy." (The Noble Quran,
2:208) .
"Wherewith God guideth all who seek
His good pleasure to ways of peace
and safety ( ﺳﺒﻞ ﺍﻟﺴﻼﻡ Islam here is
called the way of peace and safety),
and leadeth them out of darkness,
by His will, unto the light,- guideth
them to a path that is
straight." (The Noble Quran, 5:16) .
"But God doth call to the Home of
Peace ( ﺩﺍﺭ ﺍﻟﺴﻼﻡ Islam here is called
the House of Peace): He doth guide
whom He pleaseth to a way that is
straight." (The Noble Quran, 10:25) .
Islam is GOD Almighty's Religion to
all of His creations. It means
submitting yourself to Allah Almighty,
and to be at Peace with Allah
Almighty.
For ample more Noble Verses and
proofs, please visit:
What is the Wisdom of Islam? And
how will Allah Almighty Judge both
Muslims and non-Muslims?
What is the best way to convert a
non-Muslim to Islam?
The Blessed Jesus peace be upon him
and Place of Jews and Christians in
Islam.
Islam's Practices are 100% supported in
the Bible:
Circumambulation (tawaaf) 7 times
around the Kaaba is also by the
exact number in the Bible
.
Prostrating to GOD Almighty in the
direction of His Holy Temple was
done by all of the Prophets, including
Jesus
.
Also, the Bible's fasting is to not eat
and drink, like Islam:
Luke5:33 They said to him, "John's
disciples often fast and pray, and so
do the disciples of the Pharisees, but
yours go on eating and drinking."
Matthew 6:16 " When you fast , do not
look somber as the hypocrites do, for
they disfigure their faces to show
others they are fasting. Truly I tell
you, they have received their reward
in full."
Prophet Muhammad in the Old Scriptures:
I also demonstrated how Prophet
Muhammad was Prophesied in the Bible
[ 1 ] [ 2 ], and how he is the Final and
Special Prophet that was going to be
sent to all of mankind, according to the
Bible itself. The Bible in the Old and New
Testaments made DIRECT Prophecies
about:
The Prophet who will come from the
"EAST" . The Bible defined "EAST" to
mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar
and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
The Prophet who will come from
"Arabia" .
The Prophet who will come from the
lands and "tents of Kedar" and
"lands of Teman" . Kedar and Teman
(also called "Tema" in the Bible) are
two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis
25:13-15 .
The Prophet who will "crush the idols
of the deserts of Kedar" .
The Prophet who will "fight the idol
worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD
Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His
Holy Temple "in Kedar" .
"Arabia will rejoice and blossom" .
The Prophet who will come from the
"Desert" . Again, the Bible also defined
the "Desert" to mean the lands of
Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
The Prophet of the "New Law" &
"New Covenant" , whom the Jews
"must not fear" .
The Prophet who is "like Moses" . Both
Muhammad and Moses brought new
Laws. There is the Law of Moses,
which the entire Bible is built on, and
there is the Law of the Holy Quran,
which Islam is built on.
Also in the New Testament, Christ is
recorded to have said this to the
Jews: "So [For this reason;
Therefore] I tell you that the
kingdom of God will be taken away
from you and given to people [a
nation] who do the things God wants
in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]
." ( Matthew 21:43). Jesus Christ here
spoke about foreign people; non-Jews .
Jesus was a Jew and was speaking
with Jews. Read more ...
- By the way, the "Kingdom of God"
here means
THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF
GOD
on earth to the new nation.
- John 1:19-21 John was asked if he
were the Messiah, Elijah, and then
"The Prophet ": John 1:21 .
- John 7:40-44 , Jesus was supposed
to come from David's line, while the
Prophet was NOT. He was a
foreigner.
- Here are two captured images of
John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 . Click
on the images to expand:
Click to expand.
So the awaited Messiah and the
awaited "the Prophet" were clearly
TWO DIFFERENT PERSONS
, who are strangers to each others,
and are not from the same bloodline.
1- The expected Christ and the
expected Prophet:
Again, in John 1:19-21 John was
asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah,
and then " The Prophet ": John 1:21 .
In John 7:40-44 , Jesus was supposed
to come from David's line, while the
Prophet was NOT. He was a
foreigner. So the awaited Messiah
and the awaited "the Prophet" were
clearly TWO DIFFERENT PERSONS,
who are strangers to each others,
and are not from the same bloodline.
Let us look at the text of verses of
John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 in
details to see the two different
persons to come: the Messiah (Christ)
and the Prophet:
John 1:19-21
John the Baptist Tells People About
Jesus
19 Here is the ·truth John told
[testimony John gave; witness of
John; 1:6] when the ·leaders [Jewish
leadership; L Jews; C John often
uses the term “Jews” to refer to
the religious leaders in opposition to
Jesus, rather than to the Jewish
people generally] in Jerusalem sent
·priests and Levites [C the religious
authorities; priests oversaw temple
worship; Levites were members of
the tribe of Levi who assisted them;
1 Chr. 23:24–32] to ask him , “Who
are you?”
20 John ·spoke freely [confessed]
and did not ·refuse to answer [deny
it]. He said, “I am not the ·Christ
[Messiah]. ”
21 So they asked him , “Then who
are you? Are you Elijah ?” [C
Elijah, an OT prophet, was expected
to come back before the Messiah; 1
Kin. 17—2 Kin. 2; Mal. 4:5–6.]
He answered, “No, I am not .”
“Are you the Prophet? ” [C the
Prophet like Moses predicted in Deut.
18:15–19] they asked.
He answered, “No. ”
John 7:40-44
The People Argue About Jesus
40 When the people heard Jesus’
words, some of them said, “This
man really
is the Prophet
[1:21; C the “prophet like Moses”
of Deut. 18:15–18].”
41 Others said, “
He is the ·Christ
[Messiah].” Still others said, “The
·Christ [Messiah] will not come from
Galilee.
42 The Scripture says that the
·Christ [Messiah] will come from
David’s ·family [offspring; L seed;
2 Sam. 7:12–16; Ps. 89:3–4; Is.
9:7; 55:3] and from Bethlehem, the
·town [village] where David lived
[Mic. 5:2].”
43 So ·the people did not agree with
each other [L there was a division in
the crowd] about Jesus.
44 Some of them wanted to ·arrest
[seize] him, but no one was able to
·touch [L lay a hand on] him.
Again, here are two captured images
of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 .
Click on the images to expand:
Click to expand.
For a thorough proof that Islam is
the Divine Truth, and trinity is a
man-made falsehood, please visit:
What is the best way to convert a
non-Muslim to Islam?
This website's main sections.
Does the NT refute the
Prophethood of Muhammad?
[ 2 ] A closer look at: Matthew
21:11, Mark 6:15, John 9:17, John
6:14, John 1:19-21, John 7:40-44,
Acts 7.
2- An Arabian Prophet was expected
by the Jews of Arabia:
From some of the Muslim sources,
see the following references:
"Bring forward the most learned
among you before me." When that
man came forward, he and
Muhammad spoke in private. Finally
Muhammad asked him, "Do you
know that I am the Apostle of
Allah?" The rabbi answered, "By
Allah! Yes, and the people know
what I know. Verily your
attributes and qualities are clearly
mentioned in the Torah, but they
are jealous of you." (History of
Muhammad Ibn Sa'd, Volume I,
Pages 188)
"...and he is the Prophet of these
people; he is an Arab and the Jews
are jealous of him wishing that he
should have been an
Israelite ..." (History of Muhammad
Ibn Sa'd, Volume I, Pages 177)
Also, see the other great Arabian
Prophets in the Bible.
Jesus will return from Arabia in
Matthew 24:25-27 .
Other sources:
History of Muhammad Ibn Is'haq,
page 80.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58,
Number 250 .
The Glorious Quran: 6:20, 7:157,
2:109, 2:90 .
(Click to play video)
Scroll further down to see Prophet
Muhammad's prophetic name clearly
found
in the Dead Sea Scrolls
, in both text and image.
3- Jesus will return as an Arab,
not as an Israeli (or Israelite):
Did you know that the Bible
declares in Matthew 24:25-27 that
Jesus will return as an Arab?
Matthew 24:25-27
25 See, I have told you ahead of
time.
26 “So if anyone tells you,
‘There he is, out in the
wilderness,’ do not go out; or,
‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’
do not believe it.
27 For as lightning that comes from
the east is visible even in the west,
so will be the coming of the Son of
Man .
The