solite3:
what are u saying? answer my question strait

solite3:
yea i prefer to look into the scripture of truth.
Do well to answer my question

dolphinheart:

BROCAB, THE QUESTIONS ARE SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND, STOP YOUR DUBIOUS TACTICS, THE QUESTIONS ARE SIMPLE AND ARE NUMBERED , ANSWER IT!
How do we know the truth if two people give contrary answers and both claim God spirit told them?

2. Jo 5:20And we know that the (1) Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know (2) him that is true, and we are in (3) him that is true, (4) even in (5) his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
now brocab, pls tell us:
2A. who is "the son of God" in (1) above, coloured red
2B. who is the "him" in (2) above, coloured blue
2C. who is the "him" in (3) above , coloured red
2D. what do you understand by the underlined "even In his son" in (4)
2E who is the "his " in 5 above , coloured blue.

THE QUESTIONS ARE NUMBERED IN A SIMPLE MANNER , ANSWER THEM ONE BY ONE IN THAT MANNER!



Point to one scripture in that post that I have twisted, it's not good enough to just lay accusations without supplying evidence.
All the scriptures I quoted in that post are from the scriptures, you refuse to quote yours.
All the scriptures quoted have not been modified.
All the scriptures quoted are in reference to the issue under discussion.

You could not give contrary explanation to any, not even one of the scriptures I quoted.
You mention scriptures, put when one reads it, we find out it is contrary to what you are saying, no wonder you dnt quote them.



In that post I accused of saying several times that Jesus is not the son of God!. I've proven that my accusations are right, I've supplied evidence of where and when you made the statement.

On that post, I've accused you of not answering questions, you refusal to answer the questions above is a good example.

on that same post, I accused you of lying when you said that i refuse to believe that There is only One true God.
I not only busted your lie, showING you what I believe, but I also showed you scriptures that support my statements and my belief. those scriptures you cannot find fault with neither are you willing to explain them, cus if you try it, it will expose you.

[b]Jesus HIMSELF IDENTIFIED WHO THE TRUE GOD IS.
Joh 17:3This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
* Jesus identified the true to you, his next words excludes him from the only person who is the true God, the true God sent him, the true God did not send himself, he sent his servant!

THE DISCIPLES IDENTIFY WHO THE ONE GOD IS 
1Co 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

THE SCRIPTURES TELL US WHO Jesus IS IN RELATION TO THAT ONE GOD
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,

brocab , Jesus is the mediator between our one God and men , that is also comfirmed by the scriptures below
Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.

Our one God is not pleading with himself!. read Heb 7:25, 1Jo 2:1




BROCAB, JESUS DIED!, the bible said it several times, it said Jesus died, Jesus is dead, even Jesus comfirmed It that he was dead, the disciples say Jesus was killed!, NO VERSE EVER SAID JESUS WAS ALIVE DURING THE TIME HE SAID HE WAS DEAD, NO VERSE EVER SAID IT'S ONLY HIS FLESH THAT DIED.

I WAS DEAD, JESUS SAID, NOT MY FLESH WAS DEAD!, THE PERSON CALLED JESUS DIED!

AND WE ALL KNOW GOD CANNOT DIE!


look at Jehovah's prophecy about Jesus
Isa 53:12For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty, Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people, And he interceded for the transgressors.
Brocab, Jesus gave his life, not only his flesh!

that is why he died!
King James Version
Mr 15:37And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.


When Jesus was resurrected, he went to heaven, was exalted by God and sat at the right hand of God. Jesus did not sit at the right hand of himself , neither did God sit at the right hand of himself, Jesus was told by God to sit at hia right hand!

achorladey:

When has watching a video becomes the key to salvation. Last time I checked and cross checked on Salvation as regards the scriptures. It states clearly salvation belongs to Jehovah. Oga brocab that is where salvation lies not in your ''dare to watch video''. Hope you get # reasoning behind that answer.

achorladey:

You mean the truth is being revealed through the NWT? Keep on reading it will help your case as it seems.

dolphinheart:

that's what they say when they see that answering some questions will expose them!, they claim not interested.

simple request that you should modify your post so that when one quotes you , your words can be seen, you refuse to do so, so that you cannot be quoted.

achorladey:

You can't even decipher enough that all the names of the son of God(Jesus Christ) were given to him.
Yet you say he called himself the beginning and the end and the Almighty
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
The records are right in front of you reason well on them.

brocab:
And if they are all numbered than you answer them yourself. I have answered your questions, all you need to do is read the bible and correct the Word Of God, and do yourself a favor get your dirty mind out of the Watchtower magazines and stop wasting my time.

Allow me to correct you, Jesus isn't the mediator of your little "a" god the devil.

This is what the bible says For we believe that Jesus died and rose again {1 Thessalonians 4:14, 1 Corinthians 15:4, 2 Corinthians 5:15, Luke 24 Jesus had risen}
It's about time you had admitted Jesus was the one who was dead-and of course He is the one that {Revelation 1:17-18} Talks about-I AM HE THAT LIVES, AND WAS DEAD, AND BEHOLD I AM ALIVE FOREVERMORE.

brocab:
If your authorities found out you were reading the KJV bible or any other bible in this matter-instead of reading the Watchtower magazines, you would be caste out, from the JW's organisation.
Now this is the truth.

brocab:
And if you just read a little further into {Matthew 1:21 to 1:23} You will read, Behold a Virgin shall be with child, and shall bring fourth a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel {Meaning God with us}
And if you would just read {Isaiah 9:6} once more, you will see, Jesus is also called, Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The prince of peace.
{Philippians 2:9-10} Was given a name above every other name in heaven, on Earth and under the Earth.
Jesus didn't have to call Himself the beginning and the end and the Almighty-Jesus is...

brocab:
It would make it a lot easier if you were reading your bible, instead of reading the Watchtower magazines, to receive your answers.

brocab:
You say the last time you checked-states that salvation belongs to Jehovah-if this is true-then why did these ex JW's turn to Jesus for their salvation.
Why do we all turn to Jesus and not Jehovah? Unless you are now preferring Jehovah is now Jesus?

dolphinheart:


would have responded with the scriptures, but as long as you edit my post when quoting me, I see no need to do so, when scriptures expose you, you remove it when responding.

johnw74:


You are not talking about brocab, but about yourself false jw.




no not bro but you, who is full of lies,
almighty-mighty God is the one true God,
you believe He is two gods, a almighty god, and mighty god.





duh, God did not die, His flesh and blood body died,
three day's later the Word(God) raised His flesh body

Joh_2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Luk 24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

^^^
false jw say Jesus body was not raised, but that Jesus was raised a Spirit being,
however Jesus showed that He was not a Spirit being but still flesh and bone.



In Revelation it is Jesus talking through His Angel,
Jesus is "the first and the last".

Yes Jesus was the first resurrected, but that is not the meaning of the first and the last,
the first and the last is the eternal.
The first and the last means he has always existed and always will exist,
the self existent.
Even the verse you posted Rev 2:8 ‘the First and the Last,’ who became dead and came to life again:
The first and the last became dead, He was the first and the last before He died.
Of course He was always, and always will be, the first and the last.

By the way the man-body died, not the Spirit-God.



mind you it's not suprising that a false jw who believes that
the titles almighty God, and mighty God, are titles for two diffrent god's,
to also believe that there are two first and lasts

even the title: the first and the last,
suggests one,
one God.

dolphinheart:

that's what they say when they see that answering some questions will expose them!, they claim not interested.

simple request that you should modify your post so that when one quotes you , your words can be seen, you refuse to do so, so that you cannot be quoted.

achorladey:

Typical you, the last line of my post says it all. You simply cannot reason. Who gave him the name?

solite3:
who gave him the is not the subject of discussion but who has the power right now

You cant deny the fact that Jesus is the Almighty given or not.

johnw74:
[size=12]Paul the apostle when speaking of the Father, said that he "dwells in unapproachable light no man has seen or can see."
 
1Ti 6:16  Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

achorladey:
This goes to the invited and uninvited guest, to the deep thinkers and to those who have discerning minds.
Is there any difference between the ''my God'' found in John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
And
''my God'' found in John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.
A. Yes. B. No. C. Uncertain. D. Deny. Please pick the options only the question is self explanatory enough.


From Jesus' statement in John 20:17, is Jesus the Almighty God.
A. Yes B. No. C. Uncertain D. Deny

solite3:
who gave him the is not the subject of discussion but who has the power right now

You cant deny the fact that Jesus is the Almighty given or not.

dolphinheart:
YOU CAN LIE!

Emusan:

Let me start with you with this question.
Do you now accept that Thomas called Jesus my God and Jesus accepted it?
Before I answer your question.

solite3:
i have successfully answered your questions. You have to study the bible and abadon watch tower only then will you understand what we have been saying

johnw74:


lie lie dolphinheart

You cannot help but lie,
if there is something wrong that I said in my post then show it

I said it's you that's the lie lie
I said almighty-mighty God is the one true God
I said Jesus body died, His Spirit(God) did not
I said Jesus is the first and the last
I said mind you it's not suprising that a false jw who believes that
the titles almighty God, and mighty God, are titles for two diffrent god's,
to also believe that there are two first and lasts

even the title: the first and the last,
suggests one,
one God.

and I gave some scriptures,
so question me on what I said or continue lying
of course whatever you choose to do it will contain lies, won't it lie lie
you speaking lies, is you speaking naturally

achorladey:

Oga follow the instruction given concerning those questions.

Emusan:


I didn't say I won't follow your instructions but do you agree that Thomas called Jesus my God and Jesus didn't rebuke him for that?

achorladey:

What correlation does Achorladey have with the ex - JWs? Can you answer that please? Answer to your question is found in Dolphinheart response to your false analogy that Jehovah is Saviour, Jesus is Saviour. Go back and read his response and get the sense of it.

Emusan:


Let me even shock you, so that you can see how perverted these Jehovah Witnesses are.

Do you know that JWs believed that 1 Timothy 6:16 was talking about Jesus Christ

Yet they can still say Jesus Christ is a created being and not God.

dolphinheart:

You have once again shown that
(1)YOU CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS POSED TO YOU, KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT ANSWERING THEM WILL EXPOSE YOU
THE QUESTIONS ARE SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND, STOP YOUR DUBIOUS TACTICS, THE QUESTIONS ARE SIMPLE AND ARE NUMBERED , ANSWER IT!

1.How do we know the truth if two people give contrary answers and both claim God spirit told them?

2. Jo 5:20And we know that the (1) Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know (2) him that is true, and we are in (3) him that is true, (4) even in (5) his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
now brocab, pls tell us:
2A. who is "the son of God" in (1) above, coloured red
2B. who is the "him" in (2) above, coloured blue
2C. who is the "him" in (3) above , coloured red
2D. what do you understand by the underlined "even In his son" in (4)
2E. who is the "his " in 5 above , coloured blue.

(2)YOU COULD NOT SUBSTANTIATE YOUR ACCUSATION BY POINTING TO A SCRIPTURE THAT I HAVE TWISTED IN THAT POST.

(3)YON COULD NOT DENY MY ACCUSATIONS IN THAT POST.

(4) YOU COULD NOT GIVE CONTRARY EXPLANATION TO ANY SCRIPTURE I QUOTED IN THAT POST

(5) YOU COULD NOT EXPLAIN THE SCRIPTURES OR FAULT MY EXPLANATION WHEN I USED THE SCRIPTURES TO SHOW YOU WHO THE TRUE GOD IS, WHO THE ONE GOD IS.

[b]Jesus HIMSELF IDENTIFIED WHO THE TRUE GOD IS.
Joh 17:3This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
* Jesus identified the true to you, his next words excludes him from the only person who is the true God, the true God sent him, the true God did not send himself, he sent his servant!

THE DISCIPLES IDENTIFY WHO THE ONE GOD IS 
1Co 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

THE SCRIPTURES TELL US WHO Jesus IS IN RELATION TO THAT ONE GOD
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,

brocab , Jesus is the mediator between our one God and men , that is also comfirmed by the scriptures below
Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.

Our one God is not pleading with himself!. read Heb 7:25, 1Jo 2:1



For someone who reasons, if you want to correct someone, you first point to where the mistake was made, then add your corrections, at no time have i ever said jesus is the mediator of god the devil. Therefore, your correction Comes out of a dubious intent, to make it look as if I said something I did not say!

below is the scripture I quoted, a scripture you cannot explain :

1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,

And I supported my explanation of that scripture with the following scripture.
Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.
read Heb 7:25, 1Jo 2:1

ill also add this verse for emphasis
[b]Heb 9:24For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that he now appears before God on our behalf.

The above verses are true brocab, even Daniel saw the vision of the son of man being granted audience with the ancient of days! Jesus appears before God , Jesus is not God that he appears before!



but you do not believe Jesus died , or do you?, for your false doctrines to stand you had to modify what Jesus said, trying to claim that it's his flesh that died and not him, I even when Jesus clearly said that he was dead!