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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 11:31am On May 23, 2016 |
I know that Jws will start using insults as scriptures can no longer back up their heresies |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:39pm On May 23, 2016 |
brocab: And yet no response from you on the issue you yourself raised? also up till now , you have not answered these questions, nor you have also refused to respond to these questions and scripture: [b]Just tell us the name of the church you associate with, that you are a member of!. If possible you can include its official website, at least you surpport using technology in Gods work. Tell us, do you know that Jesus Christ told someone that he has a God? And that statement was recorded in the kjv.? Can you tell us where this can be found? If you can't answer this question brocab, then you dnt know the truth about Christ!. Expecially. The one spoken by Jesus himself. Examine this questions brocab 1. If you say one body, one spirit, was Jesus a spirit before he came to earth? 2. When Jesus was on earth, was the spirit in him his, the father or the holy spirit.? 3. After Jesus left the earth, did he remain in the body or became a spirit? 4. What does Jesus mean by " the father is greater than I am" 5. Why does Jesus say he is going to the father when you are trying to say he is spirit. 6. You asked a question, the answer is yes, but ill like to ask you, what about the soul, why did you remove the soul when fomulating your question. You cannot answer if Jesus is the same person as the father. brocab , readers will note(again) that you have NOT quoted and explained ANY of the following scriptures : 1.rev 1:1,6 2. Rev 3, 2,13 3. John 17:1-3 4. Heb 1:1 -9 5. John 20:17 6. 1 cor 11:3 7 . 1 ti 2 :5,6 8.Acts 4:10 9. Acts 2:36 10. Acts 2:24 11. Acts 5:30 12.Acts 10:38,40,43 11. Phil 2:9,11 12. john 14:6 13. Acts 4 : 26,27, 30 14. 1 john 4:14 15. Heb 5:7 16. ps 28:18 And a host of others Brocab , examine these scripture Acts 5: 31. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jesus is Gods only begotten son, Jesus is not God almighty![/b] The bible is clear that Jesus 's body was resurrected. The tomb was empty. He was recognizable to those who knew Him, Jesus showed Himself to all of His disciples after His resurrection, and more than 500 people were eye witnesses to His earthly post-resurrection presenceYOU HAVE AGAIN ADDED LIES TO YOUR VIEWS. Lets see if jesus was recognizable to those who knew him: King James Version Joh 20:14And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS JESUS! King James Version Joh 20:15Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? SHE SUPPOSING HIM TO BE THE GARGENER, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away. I dnt think the disciples would have been able to recognize Jesus more than Mary, she probably would have known jesus from birth, and the picture of jesus in her memory would have been sharper than a 100 mega pixel camera! but here you are , lying again that Jesus was recognizable to those who knew him! dnt you think Mary should have been able to recognise jesus instantly if he had been raise in the same body he died in? * this is a question ill hope you can give us answer to . Do you notice how jesus appeared to his disciples who had locked the doors, his actions transcends the physical realm, he appeared to them gram!, in a locked rooM!. yet until he showed them death dealing wound marks, that was when they believed they where swing the Lord. brocab pls tell us 1. DOES SOME ONE FACE CHANGE WHEN HE OR SHE IS RESSURRECTED WITH THE SAME BODY HE OR SHE DIED IN? 2.DOES SOME ONE GETS RESSURRECTED WITH THE WOUND'S OR INJURIES THAT KILLED HIM? If your assumptions are true, I bet during the ressurection, we will know those whose throut where slit, cus there will still be a gapping hole in there necks. and those whose brains where blown out will have a hole in their head, cus they will be resurrected with that same body! before, I digress, let's further examine ya lie. King James Version Joh 21:4But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: BUT THE DISCIPLES KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS JESUS. john 21: 12 New International Version Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." None of the disciples dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord. even after seing jesus after his resurrecting, after being with jesus for years, they still do not recognize Jesus at first glance. If jesus had been resurrected with the same body he had died in, the disciples will have no doubt, they wunt need to even bother to ask the question that dared not to ask, "who are you". Jesus had just showed them who he is, it is left for us to understand that they still had issues with jesus physical features, despite knowing that the person inviting theM to a meal is actually jesus. {1 Corinthians 15:4-6} In {Luke 24:16} on the road to Emmaus, two of Jesus's disciples "were kept from recognizing {Jesus} However later their eye's were opened and they recognized Him. {V 31} It's not that Jesus was unrecognisable, it's that for a time the disciples were supernaturally retained from recognizing Him.why is this ? I for one believe that only spirits do appear and dissappear at will! later in the same chapter of {Luke} Jesus makes it plain to His disciples that He does have a physical body, He is not a disembodied spirit: See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself, Touch Me and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have {Luke 24:39}spirits can manifest physical bodies of any liking for any particular purpose, the scriptures is awash with such occurrences, they can even use it to have sex sef! After spending 40 day's with His disciples, Jesus ascended Bodily into heaven {Acts 1:9} Jesus is still human, and He has a human body in heaven right now.sir do you ever read the scriptures at all. It says flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God! human body is flesh and blood! how then do you espect the king of gods kingdom to have flesh and blood while his Co rulers do not! how do you expect the physical to rule in the spiritual realm. brocab, Jesus was a spirit before he came to earth, was he not? how come , you refuse him his spirit nature when he had accomplished the work he was sent to do here on earth? His body is different, However, earthly human flesh is perishable, but heavenly bodies are imperishable {1 Corinthians 15:50}this above, though it's still not totally true, goes to show that Jesus was not resurrected with the same body he died in. You are attempting to state that Jesus body was modified when he was resurrected, the scriptures does not surpport this . look at the apostles statement, about our body being like seed planted cinema the ground! {1 Corinthians 15:39-49} Describes what the body of the believer will be like in heaven. Our heavenly bodies will differ from our earthly ones in type of flesh, in splendour, in power, and in longevity. The apostle Paul also states, that the believers body will be an image of Christ's body {V 49} Paul discusses this subject again in {2 Corinthians } where he compares earthly bodies to tents and heavenly bodies to heavenly dwellings.if you had dared to quote those verses, people would have seen that your explanations of those verses are false! {2 Corinthians 5:1-2} Paul says that once the earthly tent comes off, Christians will not be left naked-that is without a body to live in {2 Corinthians 5:3} When the new body is "put on" we will go from mortality to immortality {2 Corinthians 5:4} [b]1Pe 3:18For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit. the same spirit he was before coming to earth, he had sacrificed his physical body for us and he did not take it back!. He had given it as a ransom in exchange for many! again I tell you brocab, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, no matter the supposed modifications. Jesus is now a spirit in heaven, as to what the disciples and followers who go to heaven will be when they are ressurected jesus statements give us a clear view ! matt 22:30 New International Version At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. luke 20:36 New International Version and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God's children, since they are children of the resurrection. King James Version Mr 12:25For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. ANGELS ARE SPIRIT CREATURES. NOT MADE OF FLESH AND BLOOD . THEY HAVE SPIRIT BODIES. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 1:28pm On May 23, 2016 |
solite3: the truth had been expressed to you in My post, which you could not refute, but prefers to use the muddling up method(so that no one can quote you). If you want to share your understanding, do so by not adding words to the scriptures rev 1:11 really says : New International Version which said: "Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea." New Living Translation It said, "Write in a book everything you see, and send it to the seven churches in the cities of Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea." English Standard Version saying, “Write what you see in a book and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.” Berean Study Bible saying, "Write in a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea." Berean Literal Bible saying, "What you see, write in a book and send to the seven churches: to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamum, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea." New American Standard Bible saying, "Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea." Holman Christian Standard Bible saying, "Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea." International Standard Version saying, "Write on a scroll what you see, and send it to the seven churches: Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea." NET Bible saying: "Write in a book what you see and send it to the seven churches--to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea." Aramaic Bible in Plain English Which said, “Those things which you have seen, write in a book and send to the seven assemblies: to Ephesaus, to Zmurna, to Pergamaus, to Thawatyra, to Sardis, to Philadelphia and to Laidiqia. GOD'S WORD® Translation saying, "Write on a scroll what you see, and send it to the seven churches: Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea." New American Standard 1977 saying, “Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea.” American Standard Version saying, What thou seest, write in a book and send it to the seven churches: unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamum, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. Douay-Rheims Bible Saying: What thou seest, write in a book, and send to the seven churches which are in Asia, to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamus, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea. Darby Bible Translation saying, What thou seest write in a book, and send to the seven assemblies: to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea. English Revised Version saying, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it to the seven churches; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamum, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. Weymouth New Testament It said, "Write forthwith in a roll an account of what you see, and send it to the seven Churches--to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyateira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea." World English Bible saying, "What you see, write in a book and send to the seven assemblies: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and to....... There are many more translations solite3 added the words " Alpha and omega" to his quote of verse 11. did john really put this words in that verse? This question is what I want readers and solite3 to investigate and talk about. for those who want to investigate, this can be a good starting point examiningthetrinity..com/2009/09/ao-speaker-confusion.html?m=1 www.biblebookprofiler.com/The_Forgery_of_Revelation_1_8.html you can also check out the footnote of rev 1:11 in the NKJV Footnotes: a. Revelation 1:11 NU-Text and M-Text omit I am through third and. b. Revelation 1:11 NU-Text and M-Text omit which are in Asia. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+1%3A11&version=NKJV fact: the earliest and most reliable manuscripts in which the english translations where translated from, do not have the word "Alpha and omega " in that verse! personal oppinion: if the oldest and most reliable manuscripts do not have such words, how come some translations have it, I suspect this is the work of some church for fathers. Thank god God was able to keep some of the manuscripts out of their hands! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:23pm On May 23, 2016 |
brocab: First of all,Satan was not the first Angel created. Jesus was. The bible called him the firstborn of all creations. Col 1:15/16. Satan wanted everything for himself. He wanted glory and human service to be rendered to him. But Jesus on the other hand wants nothing except to please God. Satan didnt wanna sit with God in heaven,he wanna be God himself but he can't cos its not rightfully his. Jesus was given a pisition that is above every other in the universe except Jehovah God's himself because he was humble and obedient enough to die for others. After this Authority was given to him,(Micheal) Jesus himself was the one who casted Satan out because of course he is stronger than Satan. Unlike Satan,Micheal is qualified enough to rule God's people cos he is holy. Micheal is the heavenly name of Jesus christ. Sorry buh who is Lucifer? its not in the bible. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:28pm On May 23, 2016 |
[quote author=solite3 post=45845070][/quote] The bible said that Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Jesus is no longer a human being. As in the case of subjection,it means Jehovah is greater than Jesus. Where exactly does this idea of Trinity creeped from? Iyak! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:29pm On May 23, 2016 |
goodnews201668: Well y0u cant tell. Only Jehovah examines the heart. Anyone can Change. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:32pm On May 23, 2016 |
johnw74: You don't know what to say bro. You don't know 1cent of the scripture. I tell ya! If you are going to point out someone's wrong then at least be ready to assist them learn,is that not why we are here? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:33pm On May 23, 2016 |
brocab: But people lie anyways.. So you should them as Honest then? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:33pm On May 23, 2016 |
brocab: But people lie anyways.. So you should address them as Honest then? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:36pm On May 23, 2016 |
brocab: lol he never said that. He was asking you. Jesus is not the creator. He is not the ruler of every living thing,Jehovah is. Mr please use glasses... 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:36pm On May 23, 2016 |
brocab: lol he never said that. He was asking you. Jesus is not the creator. He is not the ruler of every living thing,Jehovah is. Mr please use glasses... 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:42pm On May 23, 2016 |
brocab: You quoted right. Thats exactly what the bible said about Jesus on Col 1. But do you know what a Creation is? It is something that is Created. We are creations and so is Jesus. Do you know what the bible called Jehovah? The ancient of Days. The one who has been till infinite Ps 90:2 says concerning Jehovah God[i]Even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God[/i] I hope you notice the differences. Jesus was created by Jehovah and there is no way a Creation is greater than the creator,it doesn't happen. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Sarang(f): 3:43pm On May 23, 2016 |
brocab: You quoted right. Thats exactly what the bible said about Jesus on Col 1. But do you know what a Creation is? It is something that is Created. We all are creations and so is Jesus. Do you know what the bible called Jehovah? The ancient of Days. The one who has been till infinite Ps 90:2 says concerning Jehovah God Even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God I hope you notice the differences. Jesus was created by Jehovah and there is no way a Creation is greater than the creator,it doesn't happen. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by goodnews201668: 5:13pm On May 23, 2016 |
Sarang: yes you are right 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by goodnews201668: 6:37pm On May 23, 2016 |
what is it with this your confusion of Jehovah and jesus being the same nature? Is that the issue? Or does it make them equal? solite3: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:56pm On May 23, 2016 |
Sarang: the 1cent I do know, I don't change Sarang: I tell you, you won't be telling me anything Sarang: Not all are to be assisted, including the self righteous pharisees Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:24am On May 24, 2016 |
SCORE so far: false jw lies = very many, with very many still to come johnw74 lies = 0 More false jw lies exposed: Just Like 1975 Today the Watchtower Society claims to be the “faithful and wise servant” of Matt. 24:45-47. They also teach that Russell never claimed for himself to be that “servant,” but said that “servant” was a class of people. The evidence reveals this is only a partial truth! Russell originally taught it was a “class,” but obviously changed his mind afterwards and admitted he alone was that “servant” (THE WATCHTOWER, 12-1-16, p. 357). Also, it was openly taught by the Watchtower, after Russell’s death, that he [Russell] wa\s that “servant” (THE WATCHTOWER, 3-1-17, p. 67; THE WATCHTOWER, 12-15-16, Reprints p. 6024)! Why the cover-up about Russell being that “servant”? So the Society can create or abolish doctrine and policy at will and without question. If the Society didn’t deny it, then their many publications could only be a rehash of Russell’s teachings! More Revealing Truth About The Watchtower In THE WATCHTOWER, 4-1-83, p. 31, the Society addresses Johannes Greber, his involvement in spiritism and his demon-inspired New Testament translation. In that article, they imply from the foreword of his 1980 edition of his N. T., that they just learned about his involvement in spiritism. Is this the truth or just another deception? The truth is, The Watchtower Society knew about Johannes Greber and his demon-inspired New Testament since 1956. This is evident from their expose of him and his translation of the New Testament (THE WATCHTOWER, 2-15-56, pp. 110,111). However, The Watchtower Society quoted his demon-produced New Testament for backing of their own literature numerous times AFTER 1956 (The Word, Who is He?—According to John, 1962 ed., p. 5; Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., pp. 1134,1669; Make Sure of All Things, 1965 ed., p. 489; THE WATCHTOWER, 9-15-62, p. 554; THE WATCHTOWER, 10-15-75, p. 640; THE WATCHTOWER, 4-15-76, p. 231). Do you think it was proper for The Watchtower Society to do this? http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm to be continued tomorrow more truth on the sect that is called jehovahs' witnesses at these sites: http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by goodnews201668: 12:32am On May 24, 2016 |
must you sound like a broken record all the time? ignore their thread na or stop quoting them, yes they are dogs! johnw74: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:42am On May 24, 2016 |
Now I am not expecting you to read or understand this page-but their are to types of Christians in this world No 1-Christians believe, No 2-Christians that don't believe. The word of God is the truth, no man will deny the truth. Jesus is the most important person who has ever lived since He is our saviour. God in human flesh. He is not half God and half man. He is fully divine and fully man, In other words Jesus has two distinct natures: divine and human. Jesus is the word who was God, and was with God, and was made flesh {John 1:1,14} This means in a single person of Jesus He has both the human and divine nature, God and man. The divine nature was not changed when the word became flesh {John 1:1, 14} Instead the word was joined with humanity {Colossians 2:9} Jesus' divine nature was not altered. Also, Jesus is not merely a man, who had God within Him, nor is He a man who "manifested the God principle. "He is God in flesh. Second person of the trinity. "The Son is the radiance of God's glory, and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word {Hebrews 1:3} Jesus's two natures are not mixed together. Look up the word {Eutychianism} nor are they combined into a new God-man nature. look up {Monophysitism} They are separated yet act as a unit in the One person of Jesus. this is called the {Hypostatic Union} Sarang: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:02am On May 24, 2016 |
goodnews201668:I will one day |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:10am On May 24, 2016 |
Efrankbblog: Not one of those 17 points show that false jw is not a cult 1 There are more rc's than that, and they kneel before statues, 2 numbers don't make right or wrong 3 yet false jw's told me "don't talk about Jesus He is no one" 4 many more Jews than that were killed, and like false jw, they don't believe Jesus is God either 5 many people are put in prison for not obeying their countries laws 12 many people reading your magazine doesn't prove you are not a cult, many people read playboy too these sites show that false jw is a cult: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jehovahs-witnesses-answered.htm http://jwfacts.com/ https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:32am On May 24, 2016 |
KJV {Isiah 14:12} How you have falling from heaven O lucifer son of the morning, how you are cut down to the ground, you who weaken the nations. {Luke 10:18} Jesus said: I saw Satan fall like lighting from heaven. {Ezekiel 28:13-14} You were in Eden, the garden of God, Every precious stone was your covering, the sardius, topus, diamond, Beryl, onyx and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and Emerald with Gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for on the day you were created, till iniquity was found in thee. Lucifer was created by God like all the other angels. {Ephesians 3:9} And to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God, who created all things through Jesus Christ. Even after reading the scriptures, Do you still believe Lucifer doesn't exist? The bible did say Jesus is the first born of all creation, but which of the angels did God ever say, you are My Son, and which of the angels did God ever say, you sit here on My right side. God made angels spirits. Sarang: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:44am On May 24, 2016 |
Since you have all the answers I am sure you could answer then all? I hang with the devil and we both fellowship at the Jehovah witnesses Church on the corner of evil street and death comes your way street, that crosses over into dolphinheart street, which leads towards hell street. In between we have watchtower park street, leading onto the Freemasons fire station street. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5JnngqQYvc dolphinheart: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:21am On May 24, 2016 |
Don't argue with me, read the scriptures, and if you still refuse to believe, then question yourself if you are truly Christian. The word of God does not lie. Jessicha: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:23am On May 24, 2016 |
I agree but I will let you on a little secret, {The Jehovah witnesses lie against the word of God all the time} Sarang: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:28am On May 24, 2016 |
I see you are still adding to gain more of your own lies. dolphinheart: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 3:42am On May 24, 2016 |
dolphinheart: yes, you are right I quote false jw and show them where they are wrong and lying and yes, I don't discuss with them, ....you've got it Oh boy, you slow but you finally got it |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 8:16am On May 24, 2016 |
brocab: Why cant u answer that scriptural question? Because u are not sincere, and u know answering will expose you WHO IS THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST ? EPHESIANS 1:17 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 8:59am On May 24, 2016 |
dolphinheart:dolphins heart d runaway! For your information,The authorise version is regarded as the most trusted version. Also, most of the older manuscripts have been lost and considering the amount of manuscript available today can we Judge the authorise version? I think you should do a little research in that aspect and stop making dumb claims you don't know about, there are evidences that shows those so-called older versions available today might have been corrupted. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:20pm On May 24, 2016 |
brocab: WHAT DID JESUS OUR SAVIOR SAY ABOUT GAINING EVALASTING LIFE? King James Version Joh 17:1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: Joun 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. Joh 17:3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. SOME CLAIM JESUS IS FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN BUT CAN NOT EXPLAIN HOW JESUS BEING FULLY GOD WAS : 1. Giving authority by someone else King James Version [b]Joh 5:26For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; Joh 5:27And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. imagine, claiming someone is fully God yet he being given authority by someone else! 2. giving power by someone else King James Version Joh 3:35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. English Standard Version On one of those days, as he was teaching, Pharisees and teachers of the law were sitting there, who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was with him to heal. Guys, check out the only true god! Jer 27:4Give them this command for their masters: “‘“This is what Jehovah of armies, the God of Israel, says; this is what you should say to your masters, Jer 27:5‘It is I who made the earth, mankind, and the beasts that are on the surface of the earth by my great power and by my outstretched arm; and I have given it to whomever I please. can you guys see the difference!, yet they claim jesus is fully God. 3. Is not able to take any initiative by himself except what he sees another doing. King James Version Joh 5:19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. imagine fully God can do nothing of himself. 4. will be shown greater works King James Version Joh 5:20For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. 5. calls someone else his God. [b]King James Version Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 6.cannot give certain things King James Version Mt 20:23And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. 7. does not know certain things matt 24:36 English Standard Version “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 8. fully God and yet said this. King James Version Mt 27:46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? SOME PREFER TO USE UNSCRIPTURAL WORDS AND TERMS TO DESCRIBE JESUS, BUT WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURES SAY WHEN JESUS CAME TO EARTH. john 1:14 English Standard Version And the Word BECAME FLESH and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the ONLY SON FROM THE FATHER, full of grace and truth. King James Bible And the Word was MADE FLESH , and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. did that verse say Jesus added flesh to his divine nature? no did it say Jesus had two natures? no what glory did it say we beheld , God ? no , son of God ! JESUS WAS MADE FLESH, JESUS BECAME FLESH! WHEN JESUS BECAME FLESH, DID HE RETAIN PART OF HIS DIVINE NATURE , TALK LESS OF ALL OF HIS DIVINE NATURE? phil 2:7 English Standard Version color=red]BUT EMPTIED HIMSELF[/color]but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men International Standard Version Instead, poured out in emptiness, a servant's form did he possess, A MORTAL MAN BECOMING. In human form he chose to be, Isa 53:2, 3He will come up like a twig before him, like a root out of parched land. No stately form does he have, nor any splendor; And when we see him, his appearance does not draw us to him.3He was despised and was avoided by men, A man who was meant for pains and was familiar with sickness. It was as if his face were hidden from us. He was despised, and we held him as of no account. brocab, you know I like asking you questions, telling you to explain the scriptures to me and expecially to thousands of people reading this thread. so pls brocab can you explain this two scriptures? King James Version Da 7:13I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Da 7:14And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. who is the Lamb and who is the ancient of days? *READERS SHOULD NOTE IF HE WILL EXPLAIN 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:32pm On May 24, 2016 |
brocab: nice try, but pls dnt( once again) try to change the issue at hand issues at hand: [b]And yet no response from you on the issue you yourself raised? also up till now , you have not answered these questions you have also refused to respond to these questions and scripture: [b]Just tell us the name of the church you associate with, that you are a member of!. If possible you can include its official website, at least you surpport using technology in Gods work. Tell us, do you know that Jesus Christ told someone that he has a God? And that statement was recorded in the kjv.? Can you tell us where this can be found? If you can't answer this question brocab, then you dnt know the truth about Christ!. Expecially. The one spoken by Jesus himself. Examine this questions brocab 1. If you say one body, one spirit, was Jesus a spirit before he came to earth? 2. When Jesus was on earth, was the spirit in him his, the father or the holy spirit.? 3. After Jesus left the earth, did he remain in the body or became a spirit? 4. What does Jesus mean by " the father is greater than I am" 5. Why does Jesus say he is going to the father when you are trying to say he is spirit. 6. You asked a question, the answer is yes, but ill like to ask you, what about the soul, why did you remove the soul when fomulating your question. You cannot answer if Jesus is the same person as the father. brocab , readers will note(again) that you have NOT quoted and explained ANY of the following scriptures : 1.rev 1:1,6 2. Rev 3, 2,13 3. John 17:1-3 4. Heb 1:1 -9 5. John 20:17 6. 1 cor 11:3 7 . 1 ti 2 :5,6 8.Acts 4:10 9. Acts 2:36 10. Acts 2:24 11. Acts 5:30 12.Acts 10:38,40,43 11. Phil 2:9,11 12. john 14:6 13. Acts 4 : 26,27, 30 14. 1 john 4:14 15. Heb 5:7 16. ps 28:18 And a host of others Brocab , examine these scripture Acts 5: 31. Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Jesus is Gods only begotten son, Jesus is not God almighty! YOU HAVE AGAIN ADDED LIES TO YOUR VIEWS. Lets see if jesus was recognizable to those who knew him: King James Version Joh 20:14And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS JESUS! King James Version Joh 20:15Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? SHE SUPPOSING HIM TO BE THE GARGENER, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away. I dnt think the disciples would have been able to recognize Jesus more than Mary, she probably would have known jesus from birth, and the picture of jesus in her memory would have been sharper than a 100 mega pixel camera! but here you are , lying again that Jesus was recognizable to those who knew him! dnt you think Mary should have been able to recognise jesus instantly if he had been raise in the same body he died in? * this is a question ill hope you can give us answer to . Do you notice how jesus appeared to his disciples who had locked the doors, his actions transcends the physical realm, he appeared to them gram!, in a locked rooM!. yet until he showed them death dealing wound marks, that was when they believed they where swing the Lord. brocab pls tell us 1. DOES SOME ONE FACE CHANGE WHEN HE OR SHE IS RESSURRECTED WITH THE SAME BODY HE OR SHE DIED IN? 2.DOES SOME ONE GETS RESSURRECTED WITH THE WOUND'S OR INJURIES THAT KILLED HIM? If your assumptions are true, I bet during the ressurection, we will know those whose throut where slit, cus there will still be a gapping hole in there necks. and those whose brains where blown out will have a hole in their head, cus they will be resurrected with that same body! before, I digress, let's further examine ya lie. King James Version Joh 21:4But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: BUT THE DISCIPLES KNEW NOT THAT IT WAS JESUS. john 21: 12 New International Version Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." None of the disciples dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord. even after seing jesus after his resurrecting, after being with jesus for years, they still do not recognize Jesus at first glance. If jesus had been resurrected with the same body he had died in, the disciples will have no doubt, they wunt need to even bother to ask the question that dared not to ask, "who are you". Jesus had just showed them who he is, it is left for us to understand that they still had issues with jesus physical features, despite knowing that the person inviting theM to a meal is actually jesus. I for one believe that only spirits do appear and dissappear at will! spirits can manifest physical bodies of any liking for any particular purpose, the scriptures is awash with such occurrences, they can even use it to have sex sef! sir do you ever read the scriptures at all. It says flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God! human body is flesh and blood! how then do you espect the king of gods kingdom to have flesh and blood while his Co rulers do not! how do you expect the physical to rule in the spiritual realm. brocab, Jesus was a spirit before he came to earth, was he not? how come , you refuse him his spirit nature when he had accomplished the work he was sent to do here on earth? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:41pm On May 24, 2016 |
johnw74: good to note that you have agreed that anytime they quote the scriptures for you, you remember that you dnt discuss with them! 1 Like |
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