laudate:


Guy, are you for real?? The US has no business with Iranians, but it has business with Iran??! What kind of logic is that? What constitutes a country if I may ask? Isn't it the citizens of a country that make up the country, or do you think it is just the presence of uninhabited land that makes up a country?

Aren't you aware that those who govern a country, are drawn from among the populace or citizens of that country?? Or do they come from outer space?? And that any policy executed by the govt of a country, in relation to another nation has a bearing, an influence or an impact on that nation?? That is elementary politics 101.

When sanctions are applied against a country, who bears the brunt?? Isn't the citizens of that country??

So how can you come here and be splitting hairs about US and Iran and claiming that US policies have nothing to do with Iranians?? Are you aware that the activities of the citizens of Iran could inform the policies that are drawn up by the US, against Iran?? If let us say for example, Iranians engage in terrorist activities, would it not affect any policies that the US would make concerning Iran??

The same thing would apply in the case of Biafra, Biafrans and the British! Wake up and get real!!

funny u are saying politics 101, for ur information we talking about international politics not Nigeria village and parochial politics. if u did study the difference between Iran and Iranians in international politics u won't reply with this.

for ur information sanctions are not targeted at the people of a country but at the govt, Nigerians engage in terrorism what policy has the u.s made concerning Nigeria. in international politics what matters is the representative of the people, the govt and its policies and not the people.pls would like to stop here.

bonechamberlain:
funny u are saying politics 101, for ur information we talking about international politics not Nigeria village and parochial politics. if u did study the difference between Iran and Iranians in international politics u won't reply with this.

for ur information sanctions are not targeted at the people of a country but at the govt, Nigerians engage in terrorism what policy has the u.s made concerning Nigeria. in international politics what matters is the representative of the people, the govt and its policies and not the people.pls would like to stop here.

Guy, don't allow people to laugh at your ignorance. Who are those that constitute the govt of a country? Are they non-citizens of that country?? And when sanctions are targeted at a govt of a country, who bears the brunt?? Isn't it the citizens or people living inside that country? Can a govt bear the impact of sanctions, and its people would not feel the effect?? Is govt affairs run in isolation??

Receive sense, abeg!!

laudate:


Guy, are you for real?? The US has no business with Iranians, but it has business with Iran??! What kind of logic is that? What constitutes a country if I may ask? Isn't it the citizens of a country that make up the country, or do you think it is just the presence of uninhabited land that makes up a country?

Aren't you aware that those who govern a country, are drawn from among the populace or citizens of that country?? Or do they come from outer space?? And that any policy executed by the govt of a country, in relation to another nation has a bearing, an influence or an impact on that nation?? That is elementary politics 101.

When sanctions are applied against a country, who bears the brunt?? Isn't the citizens of that country??

So how can you come here and be splitting hairs about US and Iran and claiming that US policies have nothing to do with Iranians?? Are you aware that the activities of the citizens of Iran could inform the policies that are drawn up by the US, against Iran?? If let us say for example, Iranians engage in terrorist activities, would it not affect any policies that the US would make concerning Iran??

The same thing would apply in the case of Biafra, Biafrans and the British! Wake up and get real!!

Am sure you thought you were making sense until that dude came on and x-rayed your emptiness


I simply cannot fathom fathom why you all get miserable at the mention of Biafra


Smh

bonechamberlain:


funny u are saying politics 101, for ur information we talking about international politics not Nigeria village and parochial politics. if u did study the difference between Iran and Iranians in international politics u won't reply with this.

for ur information sanctions are not targeted at the people of a country but at the govt, Nigerians engage in terrorism what policy has the u.s made concerning Nigeria. in international politics what matters is the representative of the people, the govt and its policies and not the people.pls would like to stop here.

It's called free education, all the lectures you been given that fellow.


Should I collect school fees from him/her. Just say yes and watch me make him/her pay

laudate:


Guy, don't allow people to laugh at your ignorance. Who are those that constitute the govt of a country? Are they non-citizens of that country?? And when sanctions are targeted at a govt of a country, who bears the brunt?? Isn't it the citizens or people living inside that country? Can a govt bear the impact of sanctions, and its people would not feel the effect?? Is govt affairs run in isolation??

Receive sense, abeg!!

Wow

And am sure you would claim to have attended lecture on politics even as borrowed course?

Please stop already, you're letting us see through your ignorance and it's rather disgusting

If there were any doubts that these IPOB people were a pack of clueless, CHILDISH, directionless illiterates and morronic jesters who don't even understand how foolish they are, this should lay those doubts to rest.
Christ!!!

So, David Cameron is now a police constable?
Chaai! So you don't even know what David Cameron looks like?!!

Anybody still holding out hope for these dullards is seriously in need of brain surgery.

But the part that hurts me the most is that these clowns keep bringing shame to us Igbos.
They keep claiming to speak for Igboland while carrying on in their crusade of foolishness, bringing us nothing but shame and embarrassment with their illiteracy. Just showing their ASSSES for the whole world to see.

Anyway, this is just a phase. I'm sure it will soon pass and these idiiiots will go search for something else to do.

Na security guard dem give the message tolaugh wan kill me oooooo! !!! With all these noise, we haven't found JUST ONE international personality that has endorsed the Biafra cause yet. Can you compare these fools to MKO Abiola protest or Bring back our girls protest? ?? The fools are the Jesters of the century!

illiad:


It's called free education, all the lectures you been given that fellow.


Should I collect school fees from him/her. Just say yes and watch me make him/her pay

lol pls don't stress urself Nigerians have suffered a lot paying fees for education, but still don't get educated.

consider this as my gift to the society .

laudate:


Guy, don't allow people to laugh at your ignorance. Who are those that constitute the govt of a country? Are they non-citizens of that country?? And when sanctions are targeted at a govt of a country, who bears the brunt?? Isn't it the citizens or people living inside that country? Can a govt bear the impact of sanctions, and its people would not feel the effect?? Is govt affairs run in isolation??

Receive sense, abeg!!

u are running in circles, my educating you stopped at my last reply. u can hold firm to your beliefs, gratias.

illiad:
Wow

And am sure you would claim to have attended lecture on politics even as borrowed course?

Please stop already, you're letting us see through your ignorance and it's rather disgusting

You haven't made any sense, except to delve into the realm of insults to further expose your stupidity. Go and educate yourself on what sanctions are, and how they affect citizens of any country at the receiving end of such sanctions!

illiad:
It's called free education, all the lectures you been given that fellow.

Should I collect school fees from him/her. Just say yes and watch me make him/her pay

Wow! Only clueless folks like you, can support uninformed people like your friend. Anyway, birds of the same ignorant feather, flock together. Why am I not suprised??

bonechamberlain:
u are running in circles, my educating you stopped at my last reply. u can hold firm to your beliefs, gratias.

Nah, the only person running around in circles is you. Guy, hang on to your ignorance if it makes you feel better!

laudate:


You haven't made any sense, except to delve into the realm of insults to further expose your stupidity. Go and educate yourself on what sanctions are, and how they affect citizens of any country at the receiving end of such sanctions!



Wow! Only clueless folks like you, can support uninformed people like your friend. Anyway, birds of the same ignorant feather, flock together. Why am I not suprised??

Lol

Funny thing was, you came on like you know a thing or two about international politics and buoyed by by the few oafs that liked your verbose, you thought you had hit a point.

But then, suddenly, a dude with a pedigree in international relations and politics came on board , and seeing how miserably miserably you have misled the oafs behind the likes on your vituperations against innocent and hard working Biafran agitators in diaspora ; and out of the magnanimity of his noble and kind soul, that dude decided to educate you and your fellow blind blind followers for nothing in reward but simple appreciation .

But the ingrate in you would rather engage your teacher in a blind argument, choosing rather to display your ignorance in public glare than be thankful to a generous Samaritan, who has taken up the pastoral task of educating foools on a national scale.


Well, thank your star, the dude has in his pious heart begged me not to collect school fees from you, if not you would have been paying me your first semester fees for IGNORANCE 101

illiad:
Lol

Funny thing was, you came on like you know a thing or two about international politics and buoyed by by the few oafs that liked your verbose, you thought you had hit a point.

But then, suddenly, a dude with a pedigree in international relations and politics came on board , and seeing how miserably miserably you have misled the oafs behind the likes on your vituperations against innocent and hard working Biafran agitators in diaspora ; and out of the magnanimity of his noble and kind soul, that dude decided to educate you and your fellow blind blind followers for nothing in reward but simple appreciation .

But the ingrate in you would rather engage your teacher in a blind argument, choosing rather to display your ignorance in public glare than be thankful to a generous Samaritan, who has taken up the pastoral task of educating foools on a national scale.

Well, thank your star, the dude has in his pious heart begged me not to collect school fees from you, if not you would have been paying me your first semester fees for IGNORANCE 101

LWKMD!! ROFLMAO!! How do you know that a "dude with a pedigree in international relations and politics came on board" to use your words? Were you in the university where he studied the so-called international relations and politics??

Chai! I didn't realise that cluelessness was contagious, o! Even after the chap's assertions have been debunked, you are still here waving the flag of ignorance on his behalf. And you have the mouth to call someone an ingrate. You and your pro-Biafra agitators who have consistently condemned the British and vilified Lugard, are the real ingrates. Now they are going cap-in-hand to the same British people they have consistently lambasted to beg for their support!

I repeat: Una no get shame!! Not one kobo!

And to your clueless partner that keeps insisting that sanctions are applied against a govt, and has nothing to do with the citizens of the country against whose govt sanctions are applied, my response is that he should just read this article:

The Devastating Impacts of Economic Sanctions on the People of Iran | By Kourosh Ziabari, Global Research, August 03, 2012
3 August 2012

Ordinary citizens are the silent victims. While the United States and European Union are vehemently competing with each other in the seemingly endless race of imposing sanctions on Iran, the ordinary Iranian citizens are experiencing the most breathtaking, agonizing impacts of the crippling embargoes.

On July 31, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) sent a letter to all members of the U.S. Congress, demanding a concerted action to approve The Iran Threat Reduction and Syria Human Rights Act which imposes a new set of sanctions on Iran’s energy and transportation sector.

On August 1, the media reported that the Congress has ratified the bill and it’s waiting to be signed by the president.

Iran is already under 6 rounds of sanctions endorsed by the United Nations Security Council. The sanctions are purportedly aimed at preventing Tehran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

The UNSC sanctions stipulate a freezing of Iran’s international assets, the closure of branches of Iranian banks in other countries, barring the export of nuclear and military facilities to Iran, a ban on investment in Iran’s oil, gas and Petrochemistry sector, business dealings with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, banking and insurance transactions and traveling restrictions for high-ranking governmental and military officials.

The United States, Israel and EU countries have long accused Iran of trying to build nuclear bombs, a charge which Iran has persistently and categorically denied. Iran says that it needs civilian nuclear power to meet its growing energy needs, especially since Iran is a country mostly reliant on fossil fuels for its energy demands and oil revenues to keep its economy alive. The United States and its allies, in response, have penalized Iran with excruciating economic sanctions to derail the possible chances of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons capability.

On January 23, 2012, the European Union foreign ministers agreed upon imposing a multilateral oil embargo against Iran. The oil embargo which bans the European countries from buying crude from Iran went into effect on July 1.

What the Western officials say in public is that the sanctions are aimed at punishing the Iranian government and dissuading it from working toward acquiring nuclear weapons. What takes place in reality, however, is that the “smart” sanctions have directly come down like a ton of bricks on the Iranian people, making their life an arduous odyssey of struggling for survival in an ailing economy.

The sanctions have devastated the daily life of ordinary Iranian people by bringing the price of goods to a skyrocketing height, making the students abroad unable to get financial assistance from their parents in Iran, rendering it impossible for the private companies to do international transactions and making it extremely difficult for Iranians to get visa for traveling to foreign countries. The “smart sanctions” even include a ban on the importing of medicine and foodstuff from the other nations to Iran.

In the previous weeks, I have been arguing with my editors in some of the American political journals to convince them that certain sensitive medicines as well as agricultural goods could not make their way to Iran as a result of sanctions. They wouldn’t accept, telling me that such transactions were smoothly taking place. But now, I think they have credible evidence available, confirming that the hard-hitting sanctions are destroying the daily life of the poor, defenseless Iranians who should pay the price for the West’s and Israel’s animosity with their government.

On May 6, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty quoted Iran’s reformist daily Shargh as writing that the exportation of a great deal of vital medicines to Iran has been banned as a result of the sanctions. These medicines which Iran is not capable of producing include drugs for the treatment of cancer, heart and breathing problems, thalassemia, and multiple sclerosis.

Hamid Reza Emadi, an Iran-based political commentator also confirms that the latest round of sanctions imposed on Iran just a few days ago directly affect the lives of average Iranians who have nothing to do with the country’s nuclear program. “This latest move by the U.S. Congress shows the extent to which Washington has become frustrated and now it is going to step up their pressure on Iranian civilians by preventing the country from importing agricultural products… Iran is a grain importer and the U.S. knows that and by creating obstacles in the way of grain exports to Iran, the U.S. is clearly committing crimes against humanity because it only affects ordinary Iranians who have got nothing to do with the country’s nuclear energy program,” Emadi said in an interview with Press TV.

“Do not forget that it is not just agricultural products; the U.S. is putting maximum pressure on international banks doing business with Iran, therefore Iranian medical companies cannot import some vital medicines,” he added.

The board of directors of the Iranian Hemophilia Society has informed the World Federation of Hemophilia that the lives of tens of thousands of children are being endangered by the lack of proper drugs, a consequence of international economic sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic.

Dr. Ron Paul, a Texas Congressman has called the recent sanctions an “act of war,” saying that the bill had better be named “Obsession with Iran Act 2012.”http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-devastating-impacts-of-economic-sanctions-on-the-people-of-iran/32180

Kanu and his acolytes deserves the olympics for lying. Anybody can submit a letter at 10 downing street, there is always someone to receive letters. It is no big deal. So why make it seem as they actually met with the prime minister, when all they did was to submit a letter, which the minister might not even read.

laudate:


Nah, the only person running around in circles is you. Guy, hang on to your ignorance if it makes you feel better!

laudate:


LWKMD!! ROFLMAO!! How do you know that a "dude with a pedigree in international relations and politics came on board" to use your words? Were you in the university where he studied the so-called international relations and politics??

Chai! I didn't realise that cluelessness was contagious, o! Even after the chap's assertions have been debunked, you are still here waving the flag of ignorance on his behalf. And you have the mouth to call someone an ingrate. You and your pro-Biafra agitators who have consistently condemned the British and vilified Lugard, are the real ingrates. Now they are going cap-in-hand to the same British people they have consistently lambasted to beg for their support!

I repeat: Una no get shame!! Not one kobo!

And to your clueless partner that keeps insisting that sanctions are applied against a govt, and has nothing to do with the citizens of the country against whose govt sanctions are applied, my response is that he should just read this article:

Look pupil, I don't do home tutorial classes. And neither do I have the pious magnanimity of heart as do your former teacher, who took upon himself the thankless job of teaching slow learners, about differences between aims and targets of sanctions and their variable effects.

9niceguy:
Na inside dustbin dat kind document dey live......
ahahahahahah una no dey go anywhere. That oil, na all of us get am and na all of us go dey chop the money go. #sayNOtodividednigeria

Please why do you want igbos with you in Nigeria? Please be civil

know ye also that the detained prince is also a British citizen.

they are in 10 Downing St. to fulfill all righteousness.

illiad:
Look pupil, I don't do home tutorial classes. And neither do I have the pious magnanimity of heart as do your former teacher, who took upon himself the thankless job of teaching slow learners, about differences between aims and targets of sanctions and their variable effects.

Hehehehe....sorry to burst your bubble, but no one is asking for a tutorial class from a pea-brain like you. Anyone who does so, should be pitied, because you have nothing of value to share. Biko, continue wallowing in your ignorance and trying to sound important by splitting hairs!! Nothing wey person no go see for here!

Interesting argument here. Iliad and bonechamberlian. You got served.


Laudate give up. Somethings can never change.



The most interesting and ignorant statement I have read all year is




the u.s.a has no business with IRANIANS but with IRAN, go and study the difference, just as the British has no business with BRIAFRANS BUT WITH BIAFRA




In what universes does this make sense?

armadeo:
Interesting argument here. Iliad and bonechamberlian. You got served.

Laudate give up. Somethings can never change.

The most interesting and ignorant statement I have read all year is

the u.s.a has no business with IRANIANS but with IRAN, go and study the difference, just as the British has no business with BRIAFRANS BUT WITH BIAFRA


In what universes does this make sense?

Bros, I no know say you sef see am!! LWKMD!!

laudate:


Hehehehe....sorry to burst your bubble, but no one is asking for a tutorial class from a pea-brain like you. Anyone who does so, should be pitied, because you have nothing of value to share. Biko, continue wallowing in your ignorance and trying to sound important by splitting hairs!! Nothing wey person no go see for here!

Vitriolic tripe.


This is why you're bad at politics and international relations... Disrespecting your teachers will always affect your performance in the course of study.

Learn to learn, or be damned into oblivion

illiad:
Vitriolic tripe.

This is why you're bad at politics and international relations... Disrespecting your teachers will always affect your performance in the course of study.

Learn to learn, or be damned into oblivion

Chukwu biko!! Vitriolic, kwa?? Where?? Please who engaged you as a teacher?? And why are you calling yourself one?? Chai, this your ego is beginning to blind you, o! Wonders shall never cease!

You are the one who knows nothing, and has refused to admit his ignorance. May the journey of damnation into oblivion be your portion, now and for ever more!

armadeo:
Interesting argument here. Iliad and bonechamberlian. You got served.


Laudate give up. Somethings can never change.



The most interesting and ignorant statement I have read all year is




the u.s.a has no business with IRANIANS but with IRAN, go and study the difference, just as the British has no business with BRIAFRANS BUT WITH BIAFRA




In what universes does this make sense?

Had you both asked nicely, I'd have spoonfed you as part of my contribution to ridden the society of illiteracy.

.

laudate:


Chukwu biko!! Vitriolic, kwa?? Where?? Please who engaged you as a teacher?? And why are you calling yourself one?? Chai, this your ego is beginning to blind you, o! Wonders shall never cease!

You are the one who knows nothing, and has refused to admit his ignorance. May the journey of damnation into oblivion be your portion, now and for ever more!

Adieu!

illiad:


Had you both asked nicely, I'd have spoonfed you as part of my contribution to ridden the society of illiteracy.

I only agree with deductive reasoning. That statement iquoted up there is absolute nonsense. In civilised climes you cannot jump up and say you are dealing with biafra and not biafrans for example.

I would sincerely like you opinion on that issue. I may agree with you but its highly unlikely.

armadeo:




I only agree with deductive reasoning. That statement iquoted up there is absolute nonsense. In civilised climes you cannot jump up and say you are dealing with biafra and not biafrans for example.

I would sincerely like you opinion on that issue. I may agree with you but its highly unlikely.

Alright, this is all there is to it.


In international politics, governments deal with governments, and never with its citizens. Whatever citizens suffered as a result of sanctions was never meant for the citizens but rather as a collateral damage or variable effects of such sanctions.

Even in war, governments direct their war expedition towards the government of that country and it's forces but never the citizens. Which is why even in war the winning government might still be assuaging the suffering of the loosing side by providing for the citizens of same country they're fighting.

illiad:



Alright, this is all there is to it.


In international politics, governments deal with governments, and never with its citizens. Whatever citizens suffered as a result of sanctions was never meant for the citizens but rather as a collateral damage or variable effects of such sanctions.

Even in war, governments direct their war expedition towards the government of that country and it's forces but never the citizens. Which is why even in war the winning government might still be assuaging the suffering of the loosing side by providing for the citizens of same country they're fighting.

Pray tell me who these governments represent. If America attacks Russia for example who would die the Russian gov't or Russians in gov't.


Gut you are very wrong. A gov't is made up of citizens of the country. If you want to look at it literally it would be Americans vs Russians not American gov't vs Russian gov't because those people are represented by thier citizens in gov't.


On this issue I disagree with you.

Pavore9:
Please can someone help with circling the face of David Cameron in the pictures.

armadeo:




Pray tell me who these governments represent. If America attacks Russia for example who would die the Russian gov't or Russians in gov't.


Gut you are very wrong. A gov't is made up of citizens of the country. If you want to look at it literally it would be Americans vs Russians not American gov't vs Russian gov't because those people are represented by thier citizens in gov't.


On this issue I disagree with you.

Case closed!

armadeo:
Pray tell me who these governments represent. If America attacks Russia for example who would die the Russian gov't or Russians in gov't.

Gut you are very wrong. A gov't is made up of citizens of the country. If you want to look at it literally it would be Americans vs Russians not American gov't vs Russian gov't because those people are represented by thier citizens in gov't.

On this issue I disagree with you.

Leave am. Like I said once on another thread: "A little learning is a dangerous thing," in the words of Alexander Pope. This Illiad guy has a little learning, and is unwilling to move from his position.

Even under international law, it is not just one government that fights against another government, but countries that engage in war. And a country is made up of both the state machinery and its citizens.

In armed conflict, it is the armed forces or combatants on either side of the divide, that prosecute the war. However, if a civilian citizen carries arms during an armed conflict or engages in acts of aggression, he is no longer regarded as a defenceless civilian, but a belligerent or a combatant, and he will be treated as such.