Richirich713:

And where did this singularity come from? It's origin plz?

If a Atheist doesn't take that road he could just have ignored me, just like I ignored some comments u made on why Christians bother being good when I read them. I don't think Christians are good to avoid hell or to get in heaven but u easily stereotyped that view.

Thats why I quoted those who disagree with my conclusion, 2 of those atheists holds on to the multiverse but still admit the universe is fine-tuned. U said no one one with basic knowledge of astronomy who claim that.

Exactly u think the fundamental constants happen by chance not design and that there's a natural explanation for it. But design is more probable, chance is extremely unlikely.

I don't think the desert screams out design, I think the precision of the constants do.

I don't think u did, I was arguing for the explanation of the fine tuning of the universe.
If that were true u wouldn't be going off on why I said some atheists argue that the universe literally came from nothing.

U never give direct yes or no answers do u?

Physicists say so John, they calculated that if there's even the slightest change to these constants, there's no possibility of life.

no one said life gots to be all overs the universe.
Actually it's more like not waking up or even existing.

Universe was not design for life? If one those fundamental constants were off by the slightest there absolutely no chance of life.
What's the best explanation of the fine tuning?
I think design and it's surely the most probable and logical.

samted:


What 'lot'? If you're as intelligent as you're trying to sound, you would know that generalisation doesn't quite show your brilliance. Because some people kill in the name of their god doesn't make all followers of that religion terrorists.

Where or who dyu identify with if I may ask?

samted:


Criticism is different from outright slander and abuses my friend. Saying that a religion is a sham or its followers are stupid is not criticism. Insulting something or someone because you hold different beliefs is a sign of gross ignorance. Check yourself.

plaetton:


My friend.

If I advertise in the paper or tv that I am selling parcels of the third mainland bridge, or the Atlantic ocean, wouldn't you be compelled to call me a fraud and publicly shame me ?

We are surrounded by religion and religious people, and we know the shams they perpetuate on society everyday.

Besides, we don't go to churches to mock them.
We only mock them when they come in a public forum to hawk their stone age myths.

KingEbukasBlog:

Stone age myths ? When you have hilarious new age myths embellished as 'scientific' theories . Sir , it is too early to tell jokes and we'll leave the weekend's excitement to the EPL matches

sonOfLucifer:

hmmm.. this guy..

KingEbukasBlog:


Finally I don comment for your thread na after you told me to go away

johnydon22:
Hahahahahaha now we are shifting from Marble are we? . Isn't remarkable how you are now changing quotes? Isn't remarkable how you are now shifting the goal from Marble?

johnydon22:

One thing both you and Andrew Flew what it is should understand: There are properties in each atom that makes them compatible for a particular reaction, once an atom looses such properties it is certainly impossible for it reaching such specified state.

So when Andrew Flew wants to ask a question worth answering he should have pointed at something with active biological properties but No he knew if he did the question was dead on arrival so he had to use an artificial object..

johnydon22:

Logical blunder never go cheaper 

Lmao nobody reading wouldn't know i first thought it was a wooden table...

johnydon22:

Now that it is clear you cannot show us where i defended the position of artificially rendered matter getting conscious.. 1st lie confirmed

johnydon22:


More glaring lies... I wonder if you guys always realize people are reading this..

johnydon22:



They will always see i never defended artificial inanimate object getting conscious but was the one telling both you and Andrew Flew how ridiculous that was..

johnydon22:



Even the wooden table was finely used to show you both inanimate objects lack metabolical properties.. ..

johnydon22:
You are trying to explain a complex problem with an even complex answer thereby creating an even more complex problem..

johnydon22:
[b]
[s]Since your argument rests that the complexity of the universe suggests it must require a creator, this creator must have been even more complex than the universe...

So since complexity must require a designer, this creator in turn must require a designer there can never be two ways about it..

If you argue the designer doesn't require another designer in order to exist then doesn't it show complexity doesn't need a designer? then it nullifies your argument that the universe requires a designer..

Pulling out an even more complex designer to explain a complex manifestation drags it into an infinite regress of complex problems and causal evolution because such super complex designer needs another designer going by the argument that complexity must require design, special pleading cannot work here.

In the ever colliding reacting values, it has been shown time and again that complex matter developed from interaction of simpler matters not poofing out complexly from a super complex source[/s][/b]

johnydon22:

Am not the one quoting people here.. am i?

johnydon22:

 Am sure the premise is so so on point.. You are accusing atheist of stating an artificial inanimate object can turn conscious but cannot even provide one atheist with such stance.

johnydon22:

[s]Now have been reminded that your own very religion holds such view... You wanna deny your religious theology? lmao. 

Another unnecessary yapper 
why not show us how.. let me get a sculpture for you so you can breathe into it. you are conscious so am sure you can give it consciousness 
.. hahahaha[/s]

johnydon22:

Lying for God is never a good way to argue

KingEbukasBlog:


Stone age myths ? When you have hilarious new age myths embellished as 'scientific' theories . Sir , it is too early to tell jokes and we'll leave the weekend's excitement to the EPL matches

Richirich713:
 

  hahahaha ur brains doesn't get what flew argue for does it? Let me remind u you were the one who shafted to Wood then shifted to other matter.‎
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Image123:

lola.

KingEbukasBlog:


Huh ?

Image123:

uhuh. i put 'a', you put 'z'.

johnydon22:
Exactly, many Christian does that even though some don't.. So how can you hope to plead a case for your religion to be exempted from slander and mockery and criticism when many in your religion accord same to others?
Unnecessary question

sonOfLucifer:
KingEbukasBlog, what's your take on the creation story?

KingEbukasBlog:


Increased conversation , increased views , increased page comments cos we can never agree . Mentioning me wasn't really a smart move bro . Your thread is dead deal with it . Over 2,800 views ? Good for you

sonOfLucifer:

The Blogger... its all about view to you...

Richirich713:

"The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life". Hawking (physicist and cosmologist) -Atheist

"Wherever physicists look, they see examples of fine-tuning" Martin Rees (cosmologist and astrophysicist) -Atheist

"If anyone claims not to be surprised by the special features the universe has, he is hiding his head in the sand. These special features are surprising and unlikely" David Deutch (physicist) Atheist
We must be very lucky people, if the cosmological constant was off by a hair we wouldn't be here. If the gravitational constant was off by just a hair we wouldn't be here.

It has been calculated that if the value of even one of the fundamental constants—the speed of light or the mass of an electron, for instance—had been to the slightest degree different, then no planet capable of permitting the evolution of human life could have formed.

It's as if the universe knew we were coming.

"The more I examine the universe and study the details of its architecture,” writes physicist Freeman Dyson, “the more evidence I find that the universe in some sense knew we were coming"

Image123:


Hohohoho, still being haunted, sorry ehn. Take this and the subsequent posts to cure your thirst for truth. No private "takes" will do you or anyone good.

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.

sonOfLucifer:
KingEbukasBlog just view and pass biko. I no get strength to argue.

Joshthefirst:
Lol.

You're good abeg.

sonOfLucifer:
The days turned into weeks, and the weeks turned into months. It was the middle of Christmasless December, for the story of Christmas begins years later.
A particularly nasty harmattan wind was blowing through the garden, leaving dust and dry lips in its wake. Eve woke up early that morning and immediately proceeded to make Adam breakfast.
As she walked past the Forbidden Tree, the unexpected happened. One of the fruits dropped and rolled to her feet.

The serpent's advice resurfaced in her mind. She had never felt this way before. She cast a quick glance round her to make sure no one was looking, stooped to pick the fruit and dumped it in her basket.

Back at their open tent, Adam had just rolled out of stone.
'Morning Eve, I'm really hungry today. Must be that new style we tried out last night, huh' he said, slightly tapping Eve's wide ass. Eve chuckled and dropped the basket on the grass.
Adam noticed the new item on the menu.
'Eve baby, what fruit is this? Isn't this fruit from the Forbidden Tree?' asked Adam.
'Adamumu honey, yes it is. It dropped at my feet just as I was walking past it today. I thought it wouldn't hurt to try. Aren't you tired of eating pear and guava? Let's try something new honey'...
Such is the power of persuasion a woman possesses over her lover, that Adam didn't even think twice before sinking his teeth into it and passing it on to his wife.

And as sweet juice of the fruit touched their tongues and rolled down the back of their throats, their reasoning became complete and scales fell from their eyes.

'Eve, what the Bleep happened? I feel strange'
'Me too, honey'

And for the first time, humans felt shame upon seeing themselves naked. Through the power of reasoning which they had gained by eating from the Forbidden Tree, they devised an ingenuous solution: Tree-Wear.
Made of leaves and twigs, this classic designer 2-piece could be worn around the balls and pussy comfortably. They immediately sought a place to hide from God, for they knew that they'd done wrong and offended God.

In the evening, there was a whistling at the Gates of Eden. That was the signal that God was approaching and was in a good mood. And, yeah, he was in a pretty good mood today. Who'd have known gliding through blackholes was such an exhilarating experience.

'Kpon kpon, una dey house? Adam, Eve, where una dey, I don show o'
This was weird. Something must have gone wrong.
'Oh no, no no no they couldn't have' God's mind pounded as he called out to them..

'Yes, Lord' Adam said in a really low voice.
'What have you done Adam?'
'I heard your voice and I hid from you for I am naked?'

'Who told you you are naked? Did you eat from the Forbidden tree?'...

'No be me o. Na the woman wey you use my rib design. Na she carry am give me as I wake this morning'..

'Eve, is this true?'

'Na Snake cause am o.' said Eve, tears streaming down her cheeks.

God was sad. He was broken but not heart-broken. How could his orders be disobeyed? Who would dare do this to him? He was going to correct this immediately. He would show no weakness.

'Snake'

'Yes Papa'

'Show'

The snake bounced like a gangster towards the center of the garden where they were gathered. And God started dishing out curses like a loving God.

'Snake, for wetin you do, no more feet for you. Na belle you go use dey waka up and down. When man see you, im go kill you post picture for Nairaland. Idiot, you wan carry me play abi'
'Eve, your father yansh there, from today, to born pikin go hard you well well'
'Adam, for this nonsense wey you do, you see this ground. I don curse am join. Before you chop for this life, you go sweat tire. Thunder fire all of una. See as una dey treat me after I don take my time create una..'

'Ngwa, everybody pack una load commot this garden now now'

'Oga, even us?' tortoise asked, 'Wetin we do na?'

'Mscheew, before I count ten, make all of una commot from here'..

As the animals moved towards the gates of the garden, Angels Gabriel and Michael from Heaven Sector 1 division approached from the skies with flaming swords to guard the entrance and ensure that no one would ever step foot again into Man's first home.


END OF PART ONE.

Sacluxpaint:


Lol I might not share your views as a satanist, but your story hilariously described what really happened.

zzzzy:
Sonoflucifer your end is near

DavidOluyale:



Y serve a loser. Satan is nothing worth serving. Not cool bro. Not cool.

Lucifer fell. Have u 4goten ? I see u falling too just like he fell. Think of the free gift God provided. O thou fool! Y u hide from the truth. The truth will hunt you till you bow.

oglalasioux:
Hilarious as it seems this post only shows how stupid 21st century man will be to believe such a fable as the creation story. Science has given us reputable answers to how the universe began, it's age and how the creatures on earth evolved. There is no doubt that the universe came from design but saying it is the creation story is pathetic.

Image123:


He is standing right at the door of your heart, let Him in.

TheDauraMallam:
Hahn, where art thou?

otemanuduno:
Never knew there's a door on the heart. Sure Jesus the son of the carpenter fixed it there

otemanuduno:
You can lie! When did Lucifer fall? What I know is that Jehovah sent Lucifer(Largas) out of heaven. Now let me enlighten you; Jehovah himself is the confused guy. Largas left the third heaven for him when Jehovah will not stop complaining and making noise in heaven which is supposed to be holy and quiet. Yet Jehovah is not the god of the universe but the god of only heaven and earth. Remember where the Bible said that Devil is the ruler of this world, even promising to offer Jesus all the kingdom of the world. Jehovah=Devil because he claimed to be the ruler of this world too and also he said that he is the one who created evil. He created hell fire for himself and his followers because he is the devil himself. That is where people gets it wrong. They were serving him instead of serving Domino Reverad the real God of the universe.