Nice art, but too many art never made it to the break of the ground

Can't believe that some people are hopeful that it will turn out as it was written.

let's also go and listen to IBB's speeches;
Load of rubbish.

Infact the people that have their hopes raised are the people it hurts the most.
The already existing structures are falling apart and they are busy looking for where to embezzle money.
Since when did they start estimating costs in dollars , oloshi.
illusions of small amounts eh? ndi oshi!!

When that their tacky airport they call international, was closed for years because of one small fire,
i was'nt surprised.the surprise would have been if they repaired it immidiately.
Dustbin of africa

Eziachi:

Really?
What an experience that is. In the U.K, average hospitals are over four hundred years of history behind them. They don't bulldoze them down unless they were built with asbestos materials that is now considered health hazard.

But what has bulldozing hospitals to do with my post?

Eziachi:

They will always come and add new structures to complement the old (Scaffolding). Some them look old outside but when you've gone inside them and witness the sort of equipment there and the level of healthcare they provides you will respect the system.

I am not sure I get what you are trying to say here considering my post is clear on what I mean, and it is in response to a poster’s comment.

Eziachi:

Nigeria based on what you are now calling experience always shows their lack of appreciation of history and total absence of maintenance culture. That is why they abandoned their historical Surulere stadium Lagos with huge history behind to be over grown with grass (a place Sam Okwaraji sacrificed his life for a useless nation) only to spent billions building a new stadium in Abuja.

I still do not see the relevance of what you are saying to what I posted above and I am sure is clear to those who know what I mean.

Eziachi:

Patch patch work according to you, it called good maintenance and that is why edifice like the WHITE HOUSE, LONDON HOUSE OF COMMON, BIG BEN is still in top shape despite their longitevity.
What happened to the huge teaching hospital already in Port Harcourt that is now in decaying state?
That money could easily breathe a new lease of life into it and can even help revitalize at least 20 more already dead hospitals across the state.
But Nigerian rulers and their ruled always want something to commission with big fanfare that sometimes cost more than the actual project, so they can’t commission an old but revive hospital, hence lets build a new one.

In my opinion, there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between patch patch work and maintainance. I am not sure how maintainance happens where you are, but where I am, it is not the same thing.

I am glad someone just posted the picture of the 150 million deal. What hospital in river’s state today do you think we can add attachments to, to get what we have in the pictures provided?

The issue is not building a cathedral for a hospital or spending billions to equip it with "The best medical equipments". It's about getting expert medical practitioners, especially the ones who can use the so-called machines. Unless the machines are Transformers. That's the problem with Naija. They see a big building and everyone starts jumping as if their problems have been solved. Will touching the building or the equipment will cure your illness?. Let them start NOW to think about manpower. Doctors, Nurses, specialists etc. Look everywhere for experts, train the already existing ones, encourage the ones abroad to come home and share their expertise. Then I'll believe they are serious. They say "Monkey go America, Monkey it remains.". "Put lipstick on a pig, A pig it remains!!" That is to say, if you don't have the right expert medical practitioners to work there, it's all for naught!

Bob Marley
Babylon System lyrics

We refuse to be
What you wanted us to be;
We are what we are:
That's the way (way) it's going to be. You don't know!
You can't educate I
For no equal opportunity:
(Talkin' 'bout my freedom) Talkin' 'bout my freedom,
People freedom (freedom) and liberty!
Yeah, we've been trodding on the winepress much too long:
Rebel, rebel!
Yes, we've been trodding on the winepress much too long:
Rebel, rebel!

Babylon system is the vampire, yea! (vampire)
Suckin' the children day by day, yeah!
Me say: de Babylon system is the vampire, falling empire,
Suckin' the blood of the sufferers, yea-ea-ea-ea-e-ah!
Building church and university, wo-o-ooh, yeah! -
Deceiving the people continually, yea-ea!
Me say them graduatin' thieves and murderers;
Look out now: they suckin' the blood of the sufferers (sufferers).
Yea-ea-ea! (sufferers)

Tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth right now!
Come on and tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth;
Tell the children the truth;
Come on and tell the children the truth.

'Cause - 'cause we've been trodding on ya winepress much too long:
Rebel, rebel!
And we've been taken for granted much too long:
Rebel, rebel now!

(Trodding on the winepress) Trodding on the winepress (rebel):
Got to rebel, y'all (rebel)!
We've been trodding on the winepress much too long - ye-e-ah! (rebel)
Yea-e-ah! (rebel) Yeah! Yeah!

From the very day we left the shores (trodding on the winepress)
Of our Father's land (rebel),
We've been trampled on (rebel),
Oh now! (we've been oppressed, yeah!) Lord, Lord, go to ,

Almost all the responses shows that people have lost faith in the leaders of this beloved country Nigeria.

Why not just keep fingers crossed for this project and watch as it unfold.

But to talk true $150m no be small money o

Actually i was on site yesterday and all i can say is work has started.And knowing amaechi,that hospital will be completed.See the new dental hospital and the niger hospital.Bmh is as good as new.As for upth,its a federal hospital, the responsibility of your idiotic fed govt.Come and see the new health centers.Pls give the guy a break.

I think Governor Amaechi really want to change Rivers State for good. He started very well. He won't be like Odili. Long Live Rivers State!!

$150,000,000 for a hospital

efccc should summon this man for a question

#150,000,000 hmmm makes some sense even doe it might not be enough

these people just dnt like their people, they hate them like shit and hate nigeria as well

wickedness in the earth

Wow, it's amazing how many people are already condemning this news as another siphoning scheme.

What is more surprising is i see some of the vicious comments come from NLers located in the UK or far away from the state in question.
I am not discrediting any, but would prefer if these comments had more basis, rather than just following the common trend of a nigerian verbally venting his/her frustrations about the troubles back home.

Personally, i feel the project would be a beneficial one, especially as its located in the south. (A major issue here for many years has been how
to get generally affordable treatment, since the rapid decline of the UPTH).

Also i'd like to point out that i do NOT know yet if Gov. Amaechi loots or not but with the present state of the country i wouldnt mind if he did.
This is because in my 14 years in PH, i have never seen so much positive devpt in a similar period of time.
(His judgement is coming and the sentence will be just)
Many roads and streets have been refurbished (few not so aesthetically though)
Actual meaningful upgrade of fire depts. and medical institutions.
Through introduction of PPP (Public Private Partnership) projects such as this "mega" hospital, and other govt projects, i can visibly see and attest to employment increase of youths. (Rather than having them resort to kidnapping etc.).

There have been numerous positive changes in the past two years that i won't mention now but
my point is this venture, from all indications appears to be one of the positive ones and for now deserves constructive support.
Let's spread ideas & knowledge here, because who knows if you can one day create the spark in the mind of the one that will change things.

Eziachi:


What happened to the huge teaching hospital already in Port Harcourt that is now in decaying state?  
That money could easily breathe a new lease of life into it and can even help revitalize at least 20 more already dead hospitals across the state.
But Nigerian rulers and their ruled always want something to commission with big fanfare that sometimes cost more than the actual project,  so they can’t commission an old but revive hospital, hence lets build a new one.

What happened to the huge teaching hospital already in Port Harcourt that is now in decaying state?
That money could easily breathe a new lease of life into it and can even help revitalize at least 20 more already dead hospitals across the state.
But Nigerian rulers and their ruled always want something to commission with big fanfare that sometimes cost more than the actual project,  so they can’t commission an old but revive hospital, hence lets build a new one.

@ Eziachi
The UPTH environs have been cleared for proper renovations and improvements to support the Karibe-Whyte. The government is also advocating a technology-sharing programme between BMH and the University of Port Harcourt Teaching Hospital, for the training and retraining of doctors and medical workers in the state. Many (Not sure exactly, but i know more than 20) minor healthcare centres are being setup for some rural areas also. Mobile hospitals have been dispatched to the riverrine areas.

Wish i had taken pics of the various projects, maybe later. The state is like a weird construction site mixing the old with the new lol.


(This was my first comment sorry if i broke any rules, accept critisism)

 

22bn naira for a hospital? with militants fighting because of the abject poverty in the region?

Is that the best thing to spend that money on? Or does it just provide a convinient excuse to loot the state?

There was an article in the metro section of Guardian last thursday or so about a group of army engineers called NASME in markudi. These guys went out and REPAIRED all the roads in the vicinity of the barracks and the main market at NO COST to the community. The job took a week. It was just a pratical class for the soldiers.

The criminals, sorry politicians would have probably gone there and estimated the job at 5bn naira. Then they would have spent months to get the thing into the budget. And the project will not see light of day until the next election is due when someone will hurriedly pour sand in potholes overnight and claim the job was done. Then they'll appropriate 500m for the ceremony to launch.

Nigeria is blessed with plenty of mentally retarded criminals. But those that are good are good!

ikeyman00:

$150,000,000 for a hospital

efccc should summon this man for a question

#150,000,000 hmmm makes some sense even doe it might not be enough

these people just dnt like their people, they hate them like shit and hate nigeria as well

wickedness in the earth

For a good standard hospital, that is not a bad budget at all.
How much would u think is a good price tag for a standard hospital, and not just another hostels with some uniform oh

Nice thought, like they once said hosuing for all by the year 2000

Builder:

Nice thought, like they once said hosuing for all by the year 2000

Lol----they meant to say, house for all by 20,000

As someone who is working towards being an architect one day, I must say that Nigerian architects are really dull when it comes to the design of our buildings. Did all of you see that rendering? For a second I thought it was something dug out of some 70s archive! We need more innovation put into our new structures. . .

qymekkam:

Builder:

Nice thought, like they once said hosuing for all by the year 2000

2000 AD, after the death of abacha.

blackspade:

As someone who is working towards being an architect one day, I must say that Nigerian architects are really dull when it comes to the design of our buildings. Did all of you see that rendering? For a second I thought it was something dug out of some 70s archive! We need more innovation put into our new structures. . .

thats how many projects are in nigeria dull. not a whole lot of fancy

Did you see anywhere in that story that anything was mentioned about delivery date? And, by the way, this Clinotech has no pedigree in building of clinics much less mega hospitals!
This is the entry on Clinotech on http://strategis.gc.ca/pics/ht/clinotechdiagnosticsandpharmaceuticals.html:
"Clinotech Diagnostics & Pharmaceuticals Inc. is known worldwide for its dedicated R & D as well as production and distribution of in-vitro diagnostic devices. In addition, this Canadian West coast enterprise provides services in contract manufacturing, private labelling and OEM supplies.

Targeting both prevention and treatment, Clinotech focuses on creating technology that will enable earlier diagnosis and better monitoring of human diseases as well as providing the utmost appropriate treatment for the sick." The founder is one Dr Harrison Ofiyai - that sounds like a Nigerian name - although the Tide story on this put the CEO's name as Mr Celel Caglar.

Lets hope it works. If such a project wasn't proposed people will complain, now that it has been proposed people are still complaining. Let us learn to be objective and back points raised with substance so its not just complaining for the sake of it. Medical Equipment isn't by any means cheap. As for the architecture, after how many years of non existent equipped hospitals in Nigeria, I really doubt a man dying of some disease will really care wether the architecture of the hospital is appealling enough to him, as long as the equipment inside works and it does the job.

lysaa:

just assume that has been considered before carrying out such a huge project. The fact that one project is failing in expectation doesn't mean another wouldn't work. Thats what change is all about.

Amaechi has been doing a good work so far so lets expect the reality of this beyond the pages of the papers to a place on ground where we can refer the sick and infirm to instead of abroad. 

Assume he has taken care of power supply? Ofcourse he has plans to procure 'mega' generators for this hospital and then the cost of running and maintaining it will sky-rocket out of reach of ordinary people who should benefit.
Every governor can do what he feels will help his people but none will work well without constant electricity.

What has the electricity problem of the fed. Gov. Got to do with the state
Judging from what i can see on ground and what has already being done i think the project will be completed and for those sayin the budget is too much there are people in this country who loot such money without doing a single thing so y'all should give it a break and rid ur selve of ur negative mentality, Change Happens.

Fhemmmy:

For a good standard hospital, that is not a bad budget at all.
How much would u think is a good price tag for a standard hospital, and not just another hostels with some uniform oh

Quote from: lysaa on Yesterday at 01:45:05 PM
just assume that has been considered before carrying out such a huge project. The fact that one project is failing in expectation doesn't mean another wouldn't work. Thats what change is all about.

Amaechi has been doing a good work so far so lets expect the reality of this beyond the pages of the papers to a place on ground where we can refer the sick and infirm to instead of abroad.
Assume he has taken care of power supply? Ofcourse he has plans to procure 'mega' generators for this hospital and then the cost of running and maintaining it will sky-rocket out of reach of ordinary people who should benefit.
Every governor can do what he feels will help his people but none will work well without constant electricity

What does that have to do with a state Government?

I just need to say it loud, let us appreciate good things. We all know we need real standard medical service and this man is partnering with this organisation to achieve this.It is not going to be funded by the state, it is IPP, government will provide some amenities land among other things while the organisation will fund the building and the equipment,same for the Silverbird Cinema and Shopping mega plaza under construction in GRA (with Shoprite)

Amaechi has been a blessing to the state judging by my 8 years experience in Port Harcourt.I have never seen any serious effort in developing the state the way the young man is going before.BMH that was almost moribund during Odili era is in an enviable state both in equipment and structure, I have been there lately. This is aside several Medical center he's buidling aggressively in all LGAs.If you have been to PH lately, you'll see massive road construction activities in almost every part of PH.

It is just recently after the renovations and upgrade that I noticed public schools in PH because all the while they where like junk yards.These among other things are what this guy has done and still doing.I want to say categorically that these kind of development has not been seen in Rivers for more than 8 years and I think this guy should be commended.He might not be as good as Fashola or any other Governor in UK or US but he's one of the best in the country now and we should encourage him to do more.

Sometime a little appreciation is needed to get more !!!

Just for the record, my support for this has nothing to do with the man, Amaechi, who I do not know from Adam. I am simply saying we are ripe for a real hospital project, and if this is it, I am for it.

blackspade:

As someone who is working towards being an architect one day, I must say that Nigerian architects are really dull when it comes to the design of our buildings. Did all of you see that rendering? For a second I thought it was something dug out of some 70s archive! We need more innovation put into our new structures. . .

Nigerian buildings are truly horrible.

lol Nigerian architecture is a HOT MESS.

In my opinion, its a waste of money. The design is crazy looks more like a mega-plaza not a hospital.

To think Gov. Amaechi looked @ dis design and APPROVED it for a hospital shows he has ulterior motives period! Another way to keep some change he must have thought; the project will start quite alright but if its written $150m, when completed the real money used for the project will be like $500m. 

Secondly who is he building d hospital for? A hospital like dat is certainly not for the masses,they cant afford it, and if not for them for who? The Big Shots WILL NOT, and i repeat WILL NOT stop going abroad for treatment(they have big big diseases they dont want Nigerians to know about)!

He may be design-challenged but at least this is a huge step up from the colonial structures that currently litter rivers called clinics. lol

nice move, hope its completed b4 the end of next year.

In a way, we really like commissioning new projects. No maintenance of the old ones because we can probably not make the kind of money we wanna make if it's an old project also, so that the project can probably bear the name of whoever started it.

Pls compare the old niger hospital with the new one,youll see its good to break old structures and build new ones.