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Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by VictorRomanov: 6:30pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
ayodara77: You re just stating your own opinion, which has nothing to do with either Jesus or his disciples taught. Cos u re more concerned with the basest necessities of man that's why u re focused on which enemy is fighting you. How many times did you see Jesus or his disciples preach about or conduct deliverances services for someone to marry before 50 yrs or even have much wealth? Its not for nothing we all have bibles! 1 Like |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by femi4: 6:31pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
LEXYCOM:scripture? |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by chrystalC(m): 6:45pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
nairaman66: Not that m tryna argue wif yhu or sumfin, buh wah about d rich man Jesus told to sell all his proceeds in the bible?.. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by iffedayur(m): 6:47pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
TimiBlogger: God does not just substitute things. It's Paul's mission. The simple truth; the early Church showed us how to love one another. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by iffedayur(m): 6:49pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
[quote author=Holluwatarhyor post=44158097] You all have misunderstood the whole thing,there are different kind of enemies,there are those that just envy you,I can't tell that type of enemy to die.But should in any case an enemy swear I'll never make it while he or she is still alive,then what is he or she still waiting for on earth,because I'm already making it Then what on earth did you want Joseph to do? |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by AreaFada2: 6:57pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Sunnycliff:I wonder o. In this world that everyone is struggling to make a living. How many people get time to busy themselves with being on your matter as an enemy? Who send anybody? The common enemy is poverty, hard life, insecurity, joblessness, crime & in some places, lack of electricity & fuel. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Minemrys: 7:02pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
asalimpo:atleast if saul as in paul had died, there wouldn't have been xtainity atleast n0t in the way we kn0w it. Can you imagine how many jesus' doctrines that he paganised for the r0mans and the world? |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by brojoshua: 7:21pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
In fact many end time churches are outside there nowadays |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by shine12: 7:28pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
ZoboKunu: The devil will never changed as He's destined for he'll but that colleague at work who's your enemy can chnage. Sometimes people's family are even the enemy so when you pray for them to die you are asking your sister/brother to die. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Nobody: 7:30pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
OP, that mentality of "bad people could change and become better" is not always applicable to Africans especially Nigerians. We are too wicked. Even in the bible, a particular chapter tells us that some people came together to make oath that they won't eat or drink until they kill a particular prophet of God. (Can't remember his name but look up new testament) How do you judge those people ? These days, there are evil people like that destroying lives. I see no reason we shouldn't pray for their death because they will never change. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by derecho(m): 7:37pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Montaque:My bros,if God answered it, who are we to question Him? |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Nobody: 7:39pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
shine12: What if your colleague is an occultist and he wants to kill you. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by shine12: 7:40pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
ZoboKunu: It's the devil that makes people evil.Sin brought condemnation. There is no man that is immune to carrying out evil,that's why we need God's grace daily. The prayer; deliver us from evil is not only deliver you from an evil person but also deliver you from being possessed to do evil. My brother, evil is not only when someone wants to "change your destiny or stop you from getting there".If you've lied to a girl before and sleep with her,if you've done yahoo yahoo before,if you've stolen before,you've done evil. Popular African Christian doctrine have made us to think evil is only the witch evil that wants to kill you.We all need to be cleansed and sanctified and be delivered from being capable of doing evil and then from evil reaching us.That's why as Christians we need to pray for our brothers and sisters even when we've just heard that they gossiped about us. See Christianity is not some cheap fantasy out of a book experience,it's the way of the cross and self denial. Christ said in Matthew what use is it If you only wish well only the people who wish you well, even the normal unbelieving terrorist will do that.So praying and wishing for the death of an "enemy" is the same thing an unbeliever will do. I can go on and on about this but I'll stop here. Shalom!! |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by martineinstein(m): 7:46pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
EmperorMGI:of course, if it's front page worthy |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by shine12: 7:54pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
ZoboKunu: If you believe that it's God's power that will kill the person then the same power can stop the person from killing you(It's just the human nature to want revenge,the only way out is not for the person to die) the way He stopped Paul from getting to Damascus.Paul could have done great damage that night. You see bro,I truly believe that this world maximum length is about 120yrs, then every thing we've built apart from God's kingdom turns to vanity.God will judge every single person that did wickedness and died unrepentant. In Jesus words,don't fear him that can only kill the flesh but fear him that can kill the flesh and throw the spirit in hell. ALL men could do to people like Che Guvera,JFK,Fela,Ghandi,MLK,Abiola,Malcolm X is to kill them but they couldn't kill their soul and God will judge the killers. The questions is if a person lived till 120 yrs old or gets killed at a young age like Jesus,John,Peter etc is there a crown waiting for you in Heaven.Stephen was killed for the gospel sake because God allowed Him to come up early.No man can kill you before your time.What about all the wars God fought for you without you knowing about it. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Nobody: 8:06pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
op, ur post is wonderful. take a trip to mountain of fire and see. all d churches we have are filled with hypocrites...save the orthodox churches....all others, ALL OTHERS are hypocrites |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by asalimpo(m): 8:13pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Minemrys:Oh, yeah, enlighten us. The book of romans , which he wrote, is the cornerstone book of the faith movement. Think of Winner's chapel, christ embassy , kenneth hagin, kenneth copeland - they're ministries got strong boost from the book of Romans and paul. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by miqos02(m): 8:15pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
TimiBlogger:ir whatsapp no |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Nobody: 8:16pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
lekjons: I have a question for you ,did Jesus gave us prayer point for our enemies? |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by miqos02(m): 8:17pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
dafil22:those force/power can not die because they are spirits, jesus did not killed any, he sent them out 1 Like |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by miqos02(m): 8:18pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
martyns303:those children are not enemies but disrespectful, calling an elder bald headed, he only did that to teach a lesson |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Nobody: 8:19pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Pennyways:Dem don change oh especially as wickedness has increased now. They now conduct deliverance by shouting fire! fire!! fire!!! |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by PROPHETmichael: 8:19pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
asalimpo: OP Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me” And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal. Elijah had thought he's the only one left and pride was beginning to set into his life but God had to remind him that he has 7000 of his kind that hasn't bowed down to Baal; in other words 7000 replacements for Elijah, how much more a mere mortal like Saul who stood on the way of the gospel? God does not take it kindly with anyone who try to stand on the way against the advancement of the gospel to the extent he vowed I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATE OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL. First, he will give you a chance to repent but if you refuse and continue to do anyhow, you see anyhow. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Nobody: 8:20pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Adewummy007:Who told? He's a consuming fire if you don't know. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by asalimpo(m): 8:21pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Sparkle777:But this is what christianity is all about, giving your life for the glory of God or for others. In a way, Stephen death, paved the way for Saul conversion. Stephen's life was like an exchange somehow for Saul's redemption. Yet, God didnt prevent stephen's death. He watched on!! How many christians will accept the fact that they could lose their lives for the sake of the gospel and accept it? It's all owing to this theology of abundant life , now on earth!! However, poverty, sickness and curses are not part of the deal but persecution is and it could lead to matyrdom. Loss of property, loss of assets. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by nairaman66(m): 8:23pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
chrystalC: This was basically a partable, not literally Jesus said he should. Jesus means he should leave everything behind and give back to the community! |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Sparkle777(f): 8:35pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
asalimpo: Hahahahahah. Abeg I no wan laff. So Jesus s death never do una, na to join ur own put. Hmmm, anyway. U can die for others then. As for me, I ll live to enjoy and declare the works of the Lord. The Blood of Jesus is enuff for me. Any person dat wanna embitter my life should die die die die die die..... |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Maximus85(m): 8:43pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Mountain of faya. Unar dey hear. Everything na die die die. Choi |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by asalimpo(m): 9:07pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
ayodara77: Jesus could have set an example for us by praying against His physical enemies but He didnt. At a point they tried to push Him over the brow of a hill to His death. When the soldiers came to capture him, He healed the cut-off ear of one of them. Paul, could have set an example too. His ministry was dogged by haters. He was stoned within inches of his life and left for dead. He was imprisoned. Yet, when God miraculously , visited him in prison, He didnt let the jailer kill himself. His mercy on the jailer resulted in the jailers family becoming saved. Which had the most impact, a jailer dying and going to hell or satan losing one of his instruments to the kingdom of God. How did satan feel when the jailer, he had used before, vanished from his grasp. Jesus fulfilled his ministry inspite of his enemies. So did paul. I think this kinds of prayers fill the christians with hate and bitterness which can work against them. Overtime, their thoughts and responses become toxic and they begin to rejoice in the downfall of even their fellow brothers. They become quick to threaten you with curses. The become slow to forgive and harbour grudges. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by zynzyn(m): 9:11pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
No mind dem at all o! |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by Nobody: 9:18pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Christianity is not bread and butter. Who slew Ananias and Saphirra? Who slew Herod who had persistently persecuted the early church? Too many unlearned carnally inspired teachers in the Christian section selling shallow epistles. Excuse me, let me remind you that it is our duty to pray. GOD answers according to His will. Finally I'd like to advise those of you from good families to shut up and be grateful instead telling others who are not so fortunate to stop engaging in warfare prayers. |
Re: What If The Early Church Had Prayed That Saul Should Die? by jossyphobia(m): 9:32pm On Mar 27, 2016 |
Christian of nowadays too don't fight back
because still we did nothing about bokoharam. Obviously that how we taught. |
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