forgiveness:


Wrong pegs in wrong holes.

The coach did not play many of those players in their natural positions.

Ndidi, Iwobi, Iheanacho, Etebor were not played in their natural positions.

The coach just assembled talented players without tactics, formation and experienced players.

TheGoodJoe:


So is Ndidi present continous or not? What of Iheanacho?

Mickael2:


in the first half we were winning all the 50-50s then their coach adjusted their play and they came out for us in the second half and that was where nd when the limitations of Rohr as a coach was exposed, no plan B and that cost us.

about the second point I think it's normal for a team that just conceded to start making mistakes

TheGoodJoe:


I just knew Wenger will miss out on Onyekuru. I see a bring future in this young man. Wish him the best.

do4luv14:


ok, the o pari master,

honestly I don't watch the game, so I will first comment on ur first point raised, and will observe others to complete my take on the matter,

one thing that is constant with the flow of game is the quality of the FIELD, have been positive time and time again, about the quality of our football pitch, the players has had the foot and bodily demeanor accustomed to playing on a good quality grass,

lets face it we don't have such in Nigeria, do they are bound to struggle, I wont be surprised if they go to SA, play on good grass with that same team, I will jst pity the SAs cos they will be in for a big surprise,

still my take about the field, we have the tenacity to always fight back, or how do you see our first friendly against Senegal,
that's telling you, the field has a say,

and as you always say


o'pari

forgiveness:



Only two case studies!?

I will list yours in fullness of time because they are to numerous. Chai!


If Iheanacho can't deliver in the qualifiers na for main tournament where the gladiator are, em go deliver con take shine?

Use your brain Mr logic and intelligence.

@bolded statement are made by weak minds. Bhuuuhahaha!

All my argument so far are justified.

Solanke is now the current best player of the U20 WC Tournament. Bhuuuhahaha! Na tribalism vote am put?

Kayode is currently the the highest goal scorer and the best player in the Austrian league. Na me do am?

Martins still dey score left right and center. Na me carry em leg dey score goals?

Ajagun dey win MOTM left right and center. But you no dey think.

All in your weak mind is anyone supporting good product na Tribalist.

Are you not one for dying put untop Iheanacho, Nwakali, Iwobi etc?

TheSuperNerd:
Everyone know a liar when they spot one.

Case study is the Solanke-Iheanacho debate.

Another case study is saying Martins had a big role in our second goal.

And refusing to acknowledge his poor stats at Afcon 2006 based on the "undesirable" logic you threw around. When Nacho have only had two competitive games of which he was hailed in one by the opposition for being one of the reasons Algeria fell. He influenced the scoreline. The world saw that.. why can't you?

Like I said... I am done replying unintelligent Mentions Mr Forgiveness. Especially when they carry heavy tribalistic tendencies. Solanke, Ajagun, Martins, Kayode... players you will die for and rub yourself in the mud for devoid of honest balanced analysis. Hahahahahahahahaha.... that is shameful.

Plsss stay out of my mentions okay. It is not by force to quote me. Carry on in your self-deceit and going for mediocrity over excellence because of sentiments. That is how you wanna see football. But plsss don't quote me next time. Thank You.

sontoly2:



Bro if u feel kayode is good let's see how many premier league club will buy him this summer, onyekuru just moved to Everton, now let kayode move likewise, or may be clubs don't fancy him, don't drag martins backward d dude is playing for his retirement.

if kayode was as good as u think may be clubs would have been scrambling for his signature.

Icon79:
Oh, you didn't watch the match? Well, you didn't miss much sha. It was such an epileptic display by the Super Eagles.

O pari

Icon4s:

Haha haha. You even tried. Abeg come sidon drink water jare.

Icon4s:


Haha haha. You even tried.
Abeg come sidon drink water jare.

sontoly2:



Bro if u feel kayode is good let's see how many premier league club will buy him this summer, onyekuru just moved to Everton, now let kayode move likewise, or may be clubs don't fancy him, don't drag martins backward d dude is playing for his retirement.

if kayode was as good as u think may be clubs would have been scrambling for his signature.

TheSuperNerd:
Loooollll..... It is not easy trying to keep a balanced logically sincere argument with him. He is very funny and just loves to shift sides and change shapes of arguments.. looolll

He also loves to get dirty just to prove a case for his beloved players.

I have no problem with seeing Ajagun, Solanke, or even Tomori in the Super Eagles. I have made that clear so many times. But watering down our player's talents to hype his own beloved is pure childish analysis. In fact, it is not analysis at all.

I have also always drummed up Kayode's credentials in my Arguments but I must keep things balanced and be truthful of our team's strengths and the best for each role.




Anyway, he is still someone to enjoy reading when he gets balanced on the options we have going forward for the Super Eagles. I really tried to indulge him but mehn.... I really need that cup of water you offered. Hahahahahahahahaha......

Abeg.... I am kinda occupied now shaa.... I am happy for Henry's move..... champs league and more league experience with Anderlecht before he then lands in England for the 2018/2019 season.


Really wish him the best.

Icon4s:


Bros you get time. U see me engage him in any arguments of late?

I think the best advice for him is the one given to him by Bascovanveli.

Oasis007:


Onyekuru is signed by Everton but will be loaned out to Anderlecht. The Question is; why can't he secure the Work Permit through Exceptional Talent?!

Or you think if Mbappe is signed by any of the EPL Clubs, he won't secure the Work Permit through the same Channel?! Remember Mbappe is younger to Onyekuru.

It's a Pity you could come this Low just to shade Forgiveness, and it's more pitiable for a Veteran on this Thread to back up the Gibberish.

sontoly2:


do you know that Anderlecht itself is a big club, and who ever you are you can't compare mbappe from an European nation to a Nigerian from an African nation, the criteria for getting work permit is different.

do4luv14:


that's bad, but after playing very well on a good field, it wont be easy playing on such grounds, or have you ask ursef, y does some African country usually take their home match against us in an unfavourable ground?

Oasis007:





And Austria Vienna is a Small Club in Europe?! Is Onyekuru coming from Enyimba to Everton?! How did Iheanacho get his Work Permit?!

See..... I am ain't disappointed in you or your Post, rather the Intent of it. And more disappointed in the Veteran that couldn't enlighten you.

Forgiveness is always accused of being tribal, but how many of us here are free of Tribalism or Nepotism?!

Komekn has said it all as far as being sentiment with comments and Posts on this Thread is concerned.

forgiveness:
What balance view does a myopic mind has to give when he can't face facts?


How can one who lied Martins was lost in most the qualifiers have a balance view?

How can one who lied Martins didn't play in the match against Swaziland were we defeated them 2 goals to nut have a balance view?

How can one who claimed Martins was the most lethal striker in 2006 where Yakubu Aiyegbeni and Julius Aghahowa don dey National team tey tey have a balance view? The so called veteran kept mute till this moment. Smh

How can one who claimed Martins didn't substitute Mikel in the match against Swaziland which ended goalless have a balance view?

How can one shamelessly lied Martins wasn't deployed to the Midfield but was latter shown facts that indeed Martins came in not as a CF but as a CMF have a balance view?

How can one who lied Martins flunked in those two games against Swaziland but when facts started staring at face began to go the tribal way have a balance view?


How can one who in the face of factual facts still dey lie have a balance view?

I never finish ooooooo.

Petrobros:

I am not surprised on whose side you'll take. Your track record speaks for itself.

Oasis007:





And Austria Vienna is a Small Club in Europe?! Is Onyekuru coming from Enyimba to Everton?! How did Iheanacho get his Work Permit?!

See..... I am ain't disappointed in you or your Post, rather the Intent of it. And more disappointed in the Veteran that couldn't enlighten you.

Forgiveness is always accused of being tribal, but how many of us here are free of Tribalism or Nepotism?!

Komekn has said it all as far as being sentiment with comments and Posts on this Thread is concerned.

Petrobros:


I am not surprised on whose side you'll take.
Your track record speaks for itself.

sontoly2:


eupen is a very small club for your information, and some of your post have tribal sentiments written all over it, so don't act innocence.

Forgiveness is always accused of being tribal, but how many of us here are free of Tribalism or Nepotism?!

Oasis007:




Like I care..... mtcheew!

On whose Side you are?! Do I even need to ask?!

Common, did you just say my Track Records? LOL!

Kindly dig and post it here!

Petrobros:
Objectivity on this thread was lost the day Nigeria lost to South Africa

Some became personal attorneys to their favorite players.
Some saw this as an opportunity to retable their favorite players.

All I see is sentiments, hate, tribalism, favouritism and what have you.

Oga Joseph1013, the original poster, is no where to be found. Tbaba1234 has gone to celebrate Sarah, safarigirl is probably more occupied in some other thread.

No more gentle-manly discussions that this thread has been known for.

Can we move a motion for the shut down of this thread already?

Mickael2:


bro I toe your line of argument but you should realise that you were arguing with a childish guy who never believes that he is wrong. by now you should be used to that, remember the basketball argument with Goldfish? So my.point is that you shouldn't start insulting yourselves because of that, if he starts insulting you just do what I always do, ignore the mention.

however I do have to tell you plainly as well that your comments are becoming increasingly painful to the eyes because of the amount insults in it, let's try to be civil please

TheSuperNerd:
Loooollll..... It is not easy trying to keep a balanced logically sincere argument with him. He is very funny and just loves to shift sides and change shapes of arguments.. looolll

He also loves to get dirty just to prove a case for his beloved players.

I have no problem with seeing Ajagun, Solanke, or even Tomori in the Super Eagles. I have made that clear so many times. But watering down our player's talents to hype his own beloved is pure childish analysis. In fact, it is not analysis at all.

I have also always drummed up Kayode's credentials in my Arguments but I must keep things balanced and be truthful of our team's strengths and the best for each role.




Anyway, he is still someone to enjoy reading when he gets balanced on the options we have going forward for the Super Eagles. I really tried to indulge him but mehn.... I really need that cup of water you offered. Hahahahahahahahaha......

Abeg.... I am kinda occupied now shaa.... I am happy for Henry's move..... champs league and more league experience with Anderlecht before he then lands in England for the 2018/2019 season.


Really wish him the best.

Mickael2:


shut down the thread because of one loss? it doesn't really make much sense and we should all be ashamed. It's just something that happens all we need to do is quench these useless debates and try to be objective. we used to have similar arguments back then like I remember Oshaniwa vs Echejile but the difference then was that nobody was insulting the other, we could go 10 pages without even perceiving the slightest scent of an insult, now it seems to be the order of the day.

Some things need to stop;
1) Forgiveness you need to stop attacking Icon4s it makes absolutely no sense that whenever he says something creative you start calling him a tribalist even when it isn't related to the problem. if you must disagree with him please outline your points respectfully

2) we need to change this perception that once you criticize a player it makes you a hater. theSuperNerd is the main person here and that is why I respect Icon4s here and Tbaba if you criticize their player they will come out with sound reasons to defend them not just tagging you a hater and reeling out insults, that drives people away

3) we all need to remember why this thread is here, we have an aim to maintain this thread till 2022 to see how our predictions for that world cup will go. we all believe that Nigeria can finally get it right at that tourney it would be a shame if we don't get to celebrate that together