TheGoodJoe:


That is understandable. When Aguero or Bony injured or not performed well, Nacho got to play because Pellegrini plays with two top strikers. That is all. Now we play with one under Guardiola. Simple.

I have said repeatedly, this is the time for development, not glory. A year or two under Guardiola will give him that development. After that, glory.

I said this before Guardiola joined City.

zicky:
How do you rate these "development" is it by attending his training session or watching him sit on the bench since not getting playing time don't matter.

TheGoodJoe:


I hope Nacho starts. Guardiola is alre

ady in the bad books of many Manchester City Fans. They are angry with the departures of Nasri and most especially heart.

I expect Guardiola to cool their blood by starting their favorite Iheanacho.

Guardiola is here to win titles and he is going about it the way he wants. I think we should allow him make his decisions.

We are seeing the development of Sterling in Manchester City. It shows Guardiola's tweak of Messi was not a fluke.

I think Iheanacho needs the training than the game time. If Coach Guardiola leaves him on the bench, Iheanacho should embrace it and keep learning.

Although I doubt Iheanacho will not make the starting line up after Guardiola tagged him "A NATURAL GOAL SCORER.

tbaba1234:
If anyone is in doubt about what confidence does to a player.. They should look at victor Moses.

Pep is destroying Kelechi's confidence...

TheGoodJoe:


That is understandable. When Aguero or Bony injured or not performed well, Nacho got to play because Pellegrini plays with two top strikers. That is all. Now we play with one under Guardiola. Simple.

I have said repeatedly, this is the time for development, not glory. A year or two under Guardiola will give him that development. After that, glory.

I said this before Guardiola joined City.

TheGoodJoe:
By watching closely.

jihday:
This your development under Fraudiola is over rated, Kane was loaned out to different championship teams, he came back to spurs and became epl top scorer in his first season. Posh no put am for bench under the guise of drilling him.

zicky:
where? How?

TheGoodJoe:


A young player does not stop developing. Neymar was a quality player at sixteen but he still kept improving when he was working under Enrique.

To Nacho, it is about the philosophy. The high pressing system of the Barcelona teams. It takes a lot of hard work, conditioning, early sleeping, right diet, regular high intensity training which happens in every session.

With these, Nacho will keep getting better. He is already faster than he was last season, plays at a higher intensity, he has more control going after aerial balls. These make him a better player. He will keep improving under Guardiola if he continues working with him.

Just as we saw in the last Algerian game, Nacho's intensity was blistering and it helped the team. The Super Eagles is already benefiting from the hard work Nacho puts in training. And we will benefit more as he keeps improving.

TheSuperNerd:
Sir "legend" Tbaba1234, Sir "Arch guardian" Icon4s, Sir Chrisooblog, Sir Lakedsidepapa, Sir Mickael2, Sir BascoVanVeli, Sir Goldfish80, Sir Terzurum5, Sir Orkepekyandega, Sir Kingphillip, Sir Forgiveness (does he still give anyone trouble?) , Sir "Elder" Kog45 (oga ehn... That 1984 revelation still dey my mind... Chaiii...), Madam Confun, Sir Tglobal, Sir Chriskels, Sir Blackalbino6, Sir Komekn, Sir ... Who again? **scratches head**

Note: pls bear with me as I typed these names entirely offhand... Without pausing for reference to any thing...

Oh yes... Sir BigBlangston... (Always on my case)

I wonder where Sir Maastricht is.... Hmmm...



Anyway.... Happy new year to you all.... Yes it is bloody late but I can't just return to the house without saying hello for the year...

God bless y'all

komekn:


Depends on the player it is not universal with all players. Ronaldo and Bale with thier huge pay cheques and multiple income streams continue to develop.

However, with regard to Kelechi he can train all he likes he will need continous game time to reach the next level. He is not on the same level as Aguero, if he doesn't get enough game time I can see Iwobi developing at a faster rate and leaving him behind.

Nigeria will not be waiting for him to develop when there are new strikers knocking on the door.

komekn:


Depends on the player it is not universal with all players. Ronaldo and Bale with thier huge pay cheques and multiple income streams continue to develop.

However, with regard to Kelechi he can train all he likes he will need continous game time to reach the next level. He is not on the same level as Aguero, if he doesn't get enough game time I can see Iwobi developing at a faster rate and leaving him behind.

Nigeria will not be waiting for him to develop when there are new strikers knocking on the door.

Kog45:
U are on point,let him continue enjoying d drilling and lesson from Guardiola and player like Iwobi continue enjoying d playing time under Wenger.

The next 5 games w determined may be Nacho w be part of city next season coz not included,then is gone for good either loan or outright sale.

I know d young man is not happy right now coz when u are not injured and excluded from d main squad,then something is amiss,forget all this theories of drilling or developments without enough playing time.

One thing w should note is this,his present development is not good for his career at super eagles coz a lot of young players are knocking d door and Rohr have said it repeatedly that he want first team player,so Nacho cannot be exceptional even Mikel with all his experience went to china to get playing time.

I pray that Nacho find his way back to the team coz his talent is not for drilling or lesson under d guise of working under Guardiola.If Sterling is in Nacho shoe did anybody think England w be happy in d guise of developing under Guardiola.

My man good point from you coz you understand d game and your analytical on this issue is superb.

Icon4s:


Though I am not as passionate as TheGoodJoe is on this "nacho's" case. But I can tell you that Iheanacho has what it takes to remain relevant in that Mancity's attack. However, one major factor is if Pep can trust him well enough.

To be candid, I was almost as shocked as TheGoodJoe and safarigirl would have been when Gabriel Jesus found the back of the net in the 2-2 draw. I was like "Iheanacho own don finish" . Thank God that goal was ruled offside, it was also good news for me as a Gunner .

As you rightly stated, the next couple games would determine a lot.

terzurum5:
Super Eagles Star Etebo Set For Another Scan On Injured Knee In 15 Days Time



Oghenekaro Etebo will undergo another scan on his injured knee in 15 days time according to reports gathered by Owngoalnigeria.com editorial staff.


Etebo underwent a scan but the extent of the damage to his left knee which caused him to be substituted against Vitoria Guimaraes was not determined.


The 21 year old was asked to rest the knee for 15 days before another round of scans, which will determine when he will return back to training for Portuguese side CD Feirense.


CD Feirense will also be without the services of central defender Paulo Monteiro aside the Nigerian for this weekend game against Estoril.

owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/20/super-eagles-star-etebo-set-for-another-scan-on-injured-knee-in-15-days-time/

komekn:


Depends on the player it is not universal with all players. Ronaldo and Bale with thier huge pay cheques and multiple income streams continue to develop.

However, with regard to Kelechi he can train all he likes he will need continous game time to reach the next level. He is not on the same level as Aguero, if he doesn't get enough game time I can see Iwobi developing at a faster rate and leaving him behind.

Nigeria will not be waiting for him to develop when there are new strikers knocking on the door.

Icon4s:


Though I am not as passionate as TheGoodJoe is on this "nacho's" case. But I can tell you that Iheanacho has what it takes to remain relevant in that Mancity's attack. However, one major factor is if Pep can trust him well enough.

To be candid, I was almost as shocked as TheGoodJoe and safarigirl would have been when Gabriel Jesus found the back of the net in the 2-2 draw. I was like "Iheanacho own don finish" . Thank God that goal was ruled offside, it was also good news for me as a Gunner .

As you rightly stated, the next couple games would determine a lot.

Icon4s:
TheGoodJoe, that moment when it seemed as if Gabriel Jesus had scored less than 5minutes into his debute game, before being ruled offside...

TheGoodJoe:


Why Iheanacho? Sterling blew I think three good chances. His pace and stamina helped for the three penalty calls but his misses is a problem. Gabriel Jesus came in for Sterling. That is also the position Nolito plays. He showed freshness (although he was running against tired legs) and tracked back with ease. That goal would have affected Sterling and Nolito. Not Iheanacho because Guardiola insists Gabriel Jesus is a wing forward.

He likes his wide players like Messi, Henry, Villa and Pedro having the ability to score goals.

TheGoodJoe:


I think that was for the English fans and Sterling, not Nacho, me or safarigirl.

TheGoodJoe:


Kane's development came from lots of work by Tim Sherwood as a Tottenham Hotspur youth coach. Hours drilling the young man to become a top forward. Not loan. I repeat, the game time is mostly to show what you can do. Development comes from hours on the training pitch. Not ninety minutes games.

TheGoodJoe:


It is not true if you think Iwobi's development is the games. That is what I am pointing out. It is perseverance, hard work and determination to get better in training. The time the coaches in camp spend pointing out things he should do to improve. The time Iwobi spends studying quality players and learning from them.

This is the vital part especially for a young player. That is what I am interested in Nacho. When a player works hard in these areas, when he is on the pitch, he will bring improvement.

This was why Rohr opted to use Iheanacho to press and destabilize the Algerians. That was why Iheanacho was chosen to make mazy runs to disrupt the shape of defence. Working with Guardiola improves this quality because it relies on his philosophy of high press, intensity and hard work. Playing time in few minutes does not bring this. Iheanacho is training at a higher intensity than players seeing regular time in most league.

Kog45:
U are on point,let him continue enjoying d drilling and lesson from Guardiola and player like Iwobi continue enjoying d playing time under Wenger.

The next 5 games w determined may be Nacho w be part of city next season coz not included,then is gone for good either loan or outright sale.

I know d young man is not happy right now coz when u are not injured and excluded from d main squad,then something is amiss,forget all this theories of drilling or developments without enough playing time.

One thing w should note is this,his present development is not good for his career at super eagles coz a lot of young players are knocking d door and Rohr have said it repeatedly that he want first team player,so Nacho cannot be exceptional even Mikel with all his experience went to china to get playing time.

I pray that Nacho find his way back to the team coz his talent is not for drilling or lesson under d guise of working under Guardiola.If Sterling is in Nacho shoe did anybody think England w be happy in d guise of developing under Guardiola.

My man good point from you coz you understand d game and your analytical on this issue is superb.

promzyphyno:




You and this ur drill matter,pardon my curiosity o but hw many drill did matial get when he arrived manchester?..was memphis not drilled enough at psv....mihkitarian just started getting drills now hence his recent performance abi??....oh iwobi gets more drills than nacho??.... Scheneiderlin refused drill lessons at oldtraford??...why couldn't he drill the passing game into joe hart and last but not d list,I guess james is still getting drilled?.......my broda,4get dis drill nonsense if he dosnt get games,his career is retrogressing..Kelechi is not bigger than all these people I have mentioned....if I read for exams and still fail,why did I waste my time reading??.....if I were the young lad,I'll sort of a move else where cause I'd prefer playing regularly for stoke than to have minute minutes for city....After all with his incredible goalscoring record,who wnt want him??

peterd53:



guy, patience nd hardwork are 2 essential tin needed 4 his development. u think moving 2 club lyk stoke will gr8ly help him? Giovanni dos Santos was better Dan him @ 20 , he was playing second fiddle 2 dinho, he left a season b4 ronaldinho departure nd never really reach his potential. maybe we would be singing his name nw, if he had stayed nd develop his game with d help of dinho,xavi, pep nd others