hardbody:


Radiography does not enjoy an exclusivity on this. No qualified actuarial science person is jobless. Professionally qualified and certified actuaries are less 5 or so in the country.

Most people don't even know what actuarial science means.

Nice

themall:
No doubt paramedical profession are often serious minded systems and protected by relevant state laws. I have mentioned Nursing and medical laboratory scientists at the onset. There are also physiotherapy and optometry. However, hardly does anyone enjoy the single relevance of radiography.
I have a girlfriend who started as a medical lab scientist at Yaba Tech (OND) and later proceeded to study Nursing at UNIBEN. She probably did not see herself as a professional already. A radiographer is already in demand in his/her third year. Please, I do not want this last paragraph over interpreted. Only to emphasize why radiography is different.

It's all good, no qualms tho. But tbh I never knew it was a course on its own, seemingly extinct. Some of these courses are like the bedrock of Modern Medicine but it seems everyone is pushing them backstage, Med lab science to an extent, Physiotherapy and even this Radiography. Well, you can help others by listing the schools that offer this and maybe they can try it out. The joy of it all is to have Junior Colleagues that you can Mentor.

OP, you did not state the health risk attached to exposure to Xray, I know one - Leukaemia,cancer of the white blood cells, its been linked to exposure to radiant energy, I know in Nigeria where standards are not followed. Many operators hardly protect themselves adequately either because the lead aprons are not in place or they are in bad shape. Most radiographers in Nigeria end up doing more than one job in order to make ends meet hence exposing themselves to radiation, some Xrays equipment especially in private hospitals are sited in residential buidings without the required protections within the walls of the building thereby exposing innocent tenants and neighbors to radiation all because nobody checks, the govt dont even look at that sector in the first place.

Overseas they have monitoring devices that check the level of exposure so they can ease off such staff for sometime to reduce the radiation load in the concerned staff but here nothing like that so radiographers keep on keeping on until they drop. Dont forget exposure to xrays can cause mutation and other gene disorders.

No doubt they are always in demand reason been that the qualified personnel can not meet the demand for them however the job risk is high and also the awareness of the course is low. I believe upgrading the former Fed Sch of Radiography in yaba to a degree awarding institution was a step in the right direction. Meanwhile, remember that as far as the medical system is concerned they are paramedical staff the doctors are and will always remain the head of the medical team.
BTW, radiography is not limited to medical science only we have forensic and industrial radiographers and I can tell you that is where the real money is and not in medical xrays.
When you are taking xrays of oil pipelines for cracks or conducting forensic investigations using xrays you will understand why radiographers are in very high demand and are well paid.

But not medical radiographers in Nigeria, some are not finding it funny out there i can assure you unless maybe those working in private company hospitals like mobil, shell, NNPC, etc but then how many radiographers can they employ probably 3-4.

ENTREPRENEURSHIP STUDIES. Have you ever seen an unemployed entrepreneur? We are self made

totorimi:
OP, you did not state the health risk attached to exposure to Xray, I know one - Leukaemia,cancer of the white blood cells, its been linked to exposure to radiant energy, I know in Nigeria where standards are not followed. Many operators hardly protect themselves adequately either because the lead aprons are not in place or they are in bad shape. Most radiographers in Nigeria end up doing more than one job in order to make ends meet hence exposing themselves to radiation, some Xrays equipment especially in private hospitals are sited in residential buidings without the required protections within the walls of the building thereby exposing innocent tenants and neighbors to radiation all because nobody checks, the govt dont even look at that sector in the first place.

Overseas they have monitoring devices that check the level of exposure so they can ease off such staff for sometime to reduce the radiation load in the concerned staff but here nothing like that so radiographers keep on keeping on until they drop. Dont forget exposure to xrays can cause mutation and other gene disorders.

No doubt they are always in demand reason been that the qualified personnel can not meet the demand for them however the job risk is high and also the awareness of the course is low. I believe upgrading the former Fed Sch of Radiography in yaba to a degree awarding institution was a step in the right direction. Meanwhile, remember that as far as the medical system is concerned they are paramedical staff the doctors are and will always remain the head of the medical team.
BTW, radiography is not limited to medical science only we have forensic and industrial radiographers and I can tell you that is where the real money is and not in medical xrays.
When you are taking xrays of oil pipelines for cracks or conducting forensic investigations using xrays you will understand why radiographers are in very high demand and are well paid.

But not medical radiographers in Nigeria, some are not finding it funny out there i can assure you unless maybe those working in private company hospitals like mobil, shell, NNPC, etc but then how many radiographers can they employ probably 3-4.

You have raised very intelligent issues. I must thank you for those searching questions. These are the questions an intending student will normally ask before taking a decision. Let me address some of those concerns.
1. Every profession has what is called hazard. Everyone who works regularly with radiation emitting machines definitely has radiation hazard to cope with. But let me ask. How many radiologists, radiographers or X-RAY technicians that you know has been affected by dangerous radiation?

For your information, it is very rare and many times non existent in real life. Radiographers know how to protect themselves. It is part of their course during their training. They have a course called Radiation Protection. In fact they are more protected than many of us who don't know the various sources of radiation, line of sight, exposure levels and harmful doses. So hardly will there be a radiographer that is affected by this hazard.

It is the members of the public who can actually be described as novices, when it comes to radiation protection.

On the part of radiographers one of their principles is what is known as ALARA principle. I leave you to research this :-)

BRB

themall:
Part 2B
Have you noticed that radiography job adverts are hard to come by? Yes, except for statutory reasons, by big blue chip companies, management often never advertise. .

http://www.myjobmag.com/readjob/24134/jobs/jobs-at-magodo-specialist-hospital-limited#job41036

benardnwaorgu:
ENTREPRENEURSHIP STUDIES. Have you ever seen an unemployed entrepreneur? We are self made

I'm yet to see a car mechanic without work too.

totorimi:
OP, you did not state the health risk attached to exposure to Xray, I know one - Leukaemia,cancer of the white blood cells, its been linked to exposure to radiant energy, I know in Nigeria where standards are not followed. Many operators hardly protect themselves adequately either because the lead aprons are not in place or they are in bad shape. Most radiographers in Nigeria end up doing more than one job in order to make ends meet hence exposing themselves to radiation, some Xrays equipment especially in private hospitals are sited in residential buidings without the required protections within the walls of the building thereby exposing innocent tenants and neighbors to radiation all because nobody checks, the govt dont even look at that sector in the first place.

Overseas they have monitoring devices that check the level of exposure so they can ease off such staff for sometime to reduce the radiation load in the concerned staff but here nothing like that so radiographers keep on keeping on until they drop. Dont forget exposure to xrays can cause mutation and other gene disorders.

No doubt they are always in demand reason been that the qualified personnel can not meet the demand for them however the job risk is high and also the awareness of the course is low. I believe upgrading the former Fed Sch of Radiography in yaba to a degree awarding institution was a step in the right direction. Meanwhile, remember that as far as the medical system is concerned they are paramedical staff the doctors are and will always remain the head of the medical team.

2. Standards may not be followed in Nigeria. Qualified radiographers follow standards as much as reasonably practicable. What you don't know is that X-Ray lab technicians also pose as radiographers! Anyone who has been around those machines like machine technicians may also pose as radiographers and take radiographs. This is due to shortage of qualified personnel, greed of employers and so on.

Lead aprons, gonads shields and other protection are adequately used by qualified professionals and no qualified radiographer will compromise, not after the rigorous training they go through. Remember that there profession is regulated on at least two fronts in Nigeria. Only students doing PP or others will ignore proper protection from scatter radiation and other hazards.

3. MOST radiographers will never end up doing more than one job except they are looking for the extra buck outside their statutory wages. The reason why a qualified radiographer will do more than one job is the same reason why a consultant surgeon with a very big hospital and successful practice will do more than one job. This happens a lot with doctors, surgeons, accountants, academicians, motivational speakers who are employed by an organization. There's a difference between why a qualified radiographer will do PP and why a non qualified person will engage in it.

4. You're right that some buildings used for X-Ray lab are unfit for such in times past. In fact, the Lagos chest X-Ray clinic in the 80s was like that. (R80). But this is not the problem of radiographers as a profession. It has to do with the owner of the facility who will not hire a radiographer as consultant or adhere protection and safety standards. You will find that qualified radiographers - those licenced to practice - will likely not accept substandard working environment.
Also, qualified radiographers have a lot of ways in which they protect themselves and their patients especially here in Nigeria. I only know about the radiation dosimeter(?) which I believe is able to measure the cumulative doses that may have been absorbed by a subject over a period of time e.g. one or two months.
The problem is that older radiographers feel so confident that they are not in any danger, knowing the negligible radiation they are likely exposure to. Hence, some might not even wear lead aprons.

5. Your reference to their profession being referred to as paramedical tells me you have some knowledge of the issues. Now, in times past this was a big issue, especially among students who really wanted to study medicine but had to come to the Federal School of Radiography, Yaba. Since then, radiographers have been earning university degrees and the complex have thinned out.
Notice that in any hospital a doctor will ALWAYS head the medical procedure. Not a nurse, not a physiotherapist or a radiographer. That is normal. Remember that medicine predates many paramedical professions. Also, not all medical doctors can head a medical team. Radiographers are not in competing with doctors. Radiographers are not on the same carrier pathways with doctors.

Though the salary of a doctor will almost always be higher than a radiographer on the same level, you will find that there are many doctors who are having a hard time finding employment that can take care of them, despite the shortage of doctors as reported by the Nigeria Medical Association. Have you noticed how all Tom, Dick and Harry have been sacking doctors lately, just like secondary school teachers. Why not try sacking all radiographers en masse!

totorimi:

BTW, radiography is not limited to medical science only we have forensic and industrial radiographers and I can tell you that is where the real money is and not in medical xrays.
When you are taking xrays of oil pipelines for cracks or conducting forensic investigations using xrays you will understand why radiographers are in very high demand and are well paid.
But not medical radiographers in Nigeria, some are not finding it funny out there i can assure you unless maybe those working in private company hospitals like mobil, shell, NNPC, etc but then how many radiographers can they employ probably 3-4.

I don't have original information about forensic and industrial radiographers as a profession in Nigeria. But one must be very sure of an information before venturing to advise others, otherwise someone else will be disappointed if s/he makes a decision based on what turns out to be hearsay. I don't know what you mean that radiographers are not finding it funny! A doctor whose passion is making money rather than helping people and saving lives will never find anything funny until he turns his medical practice into a money making venture.
Then about the NNPC and shell employment, of course oil companies pay more than many organizations, but they are not the only source of income for qualified radiographers. Also only radiographers who want to work in an hospital environment will be seeking employment with oil companies. Some will choose not to work in an oil company and the employability of paramedical professionals does not lie with oil companies. (You also need to examine the term 'paramedics' in modern usage)

MaziOmenuko:


http://www.myjobmag.com/readjob/24134/jobs/jobs-at-magodo-specialist-hospital-limited#job41036. I'm yet to see a car mechanic without work too.

Remember this post is about the topic. And remember to re read all the assertions more carefully.
Good observations about the adverts and the mechanic though. Of course many times adverts are merely statutory.
BTW, I wish anyone sourcing for qualified radiographers, simply by adverts. much luck

themall:
Remember this post is about the topic. And remember to re read all the assertions more carefully.
Good observations about the adverts and the mechanic though. Of course many times adverts are merely statutory.
BTW, I wish anyone sourcing for qualified radiographers, simply by adverts. much luck

You make assertions without statistical prove; just by beer palour hear-say! Although you claim you are not a radiographer, you still insist on making authoritative claims on the field. I just read your post, checked online and saw that advert, didnt even search for long because it was a recent ad. I am quite sure a lot of radiographers has applied for that job already.

My point is, next time you are trying to establish a gossip as fact, try as much as possible to get your stats intact.

Goodluck.

MaziOmenuko:


You make assertions without statistical prove; just by beer palour hear-say! Although you claim you are not a radiographer, you still insist on making authoritative claims on the field. I just read your post, checked online and saw that advert, didnt even search for long because it was a recent ad. I am quite sure a lot of radiographers has applied for that job already.

My point is, next time you are trying to establish a gossip as fact, try as much as possible to get your stats intact.

Goodluck.

You apparently belong to that class. You just checked online?! I thought you have original information about that hospital. Have gone to find out if that hospital now have a full time radiographer? I guess the answer will be an ignorant NO or an abominable I-don't-know. Let those who need guidance find out how many big hospitals have FULL TIME radiographers.

Then you mention something about gossip-as-fact issue. How can anyone establish a gossip when you know nothing about the facts, except relying on the faceless internet?! You mean it is gossip that Majority of the hospitals that have X-Ray labs have full time radiographers or that once an advert is placed for a position, such as the one you googled, then 5, 000 qualified radiographers will rush to apply.

Learn from the post and put yourself in the place of youths who have no helper in this country and will like to achieve both short term objectives and long term goals.

In this era of survival of the fittest, many are roaming about the streets and some are insecure, this is one sure logical way to help yourself and those coming after you.

Finally, I am not a radiographer, I am not a medical doctor or a paramedics, but I know something about those professions

So insightful, but I prefer medical physics though.

But exclusive for the sciences students abi?

themall:
No doubt paramedical profession are often serious minded systems and protected by relevant state laws. I have mentioned Nursing and medical laboratory scientists at the onset. There are also physiotherapy and optometry. However, hardly does anyone enjoy the single relevance of radiography.
I have a girlfriend who started as a medical lab scientist at Yaba Tech (OND) and later proceeded to study Nursing at UNIBEN. She probably did not see herself as a professional already. A radiographer is already in demand in his/her third year. Please, I do not want this last paragraph over interpreted. Only to emphasize why radiography is different.

Nothing like paramedics and nothing like medical laboratory science in polytechnic....

What does it take to become a one?

abumeinben:
Can u tell me any Christian Religion Professional aka Pastor that is unemployed?

Dont slow the op's roll.

what about architects

Atleast i have once stayed at a radiography hostel i hope i get employed too

* random thoughts*

mzteemarh:
So insightful, but I prefer medical physics though.

Have heard about it many times, but have little knowledge about what their employability. Sounds nice though

one thing I know for sure is that, as far ur a Scientist, it doesn't really matter what kind of scientist, it can be Furniture Scientist, Senatorial Scientist or even Presidential Scientist, Scientist na scientist, u must get work ni anyhow

I'm a Computer Scientist/Engineer, I don't beg for work and my work is based on contract.

because already I have a work which pays me monthly, so my people to be a scientist no be maimai oooo

just try study anything relating to science and Boom u Don blow b that oooo

themall:
In this world of survival-of-the-fittest, one needs all the information necessary to make the best decision in life. This includes choosing one's education and carrier in life. My reasoning is in terms of how to remain relevant, in a modest way, in securing a professional carrier and maintaining it for life. Take a look at the following questions below:

Is there any profession on earth today, where you CAN NEVER become jobless or irrelevant once you graduate and are qualified?
Is there a profession where you are always in demand anywhere on earth as long as you apply?
Is there a profession where you are instantly give attention at local and foreign embassies around the world once you secure invitation and employment offer?

You may be thinking far and wide about some advanced specialized profession such as experts in the field of Medicine, Surgery, Computer Technology or Science or some Engineering or Nuclear Program Expert. All these may be in demand but trust me, such degrees and expertise are expensive to acquire and the competition is stiff. More importantly, they sometimes loose their jobs with little to fall back on.

Of course Nursing is one profession that has stood the test of time. However there are many standards and there are many nurses making the for nursing jobs unstable and sometimes patronizing.

So what profession do I have in mind? It is medical radiography. I am not a radiographer, but do you know that, THERE IS NO UNEMPLOYED RADIOGRAPHER ON EARTH?! Ok, that may sound too ambitious, but if you see one unemployed qualified radiographer anywhere in the world, then that would be a serious exception, and it would not be due to lack of jobs or job opportunities or other normal reasons.

Radiography is the art and science of imaging of body cells, tissues and organs for the purpose of diagnosis using scientific techniques and tools such ionizing radiation is safe doses. In Nigeria, it is now offered as degree courses in the university for a period of five years.

No Nigerian radiographer is jobless. They are in perpetual demand by several private hospitals who can only engage their services on a part time basis since they often can not pay them full time. That's why many of the experienced and qualified radiographers have gone overseas. In fact its possible that over 60% of radiographers trained between 1989-2009 are likely not living in Nigeria. The rest are in bigger blue chip companies. While few are found TEMPORARILY working at General Hospitals across the country. Those on PP (private practice, a term used by radiographers, sometimes in sarcasm) in private hospitals are newer, younger and student radiographers.

My advice to youths (and older middle aged men, even of up to 50 years) is to consider going back to study radiography if the right opportunity exists.
(To be Continued. Contributions welcomed)
CC: lalasticlala, Carrier and Education Mods, hope this can be shared for all to see on front
(c) 2016 themall on Nairaland.com

You just spoke against your submission. You said "qualified radiographer" meaning there could be an unemployed radiographer who isn't qualified which then means we have radiographers looking for job because they are not qualified.

themall:
In this world of survival-of-the-fittest, one needs all the information necessary to make the best decision in life. This includes choosing one's education and carrier in life. My reasoning is in terms of how to remain relevant, in a modest way, in securing a professional carrier and maintaining it for life. Take a look at the following questions below:

Is there any profession on earth today, where you CAN NEVER become jobless or irrelevant once you graduate and are qualified?
Is there a profession where you are always in demand anywhere on earth as long as you apply?
Is there a profession where you are instantly give attention at local and foreign embassies around the world once you secure invitation and employment offer?

You may be thinking far and wide about some advanced specialized profession such as experts in the field of Medicine, Surgery, Computer Technology or Science or some Engineering or Nuclear Program Expert. All these may be in demand but trust me, such degrees and expertise are expensive to acquire and the competition is stiff. More importantly, they sometimes loose their jobs with little to fall back on.

Of course Nursing is one profession that has stood the test of time. However there are many standards and there are many nurses making the for nursing jobs unstable and sometimes patronizing.

So what profession do I have in mind? It is medical radiography. I am not a radiographer, but do you know that, THERE IS NO UNEMPLOYED RADIOGRAPHER ON EARTH?! Ok, that may sound too ambitious, but if you see one unemployed qualified radiographer anywhere in the world, then that would be a serious exception, and it would not be due to lack of jobs or job opportunities or other normal reasons.

Radiography is the art and science of imaging of body cells, tissues and organs for the purpose of diagnosis using scientific techniques and tools such ionizing radiation is safe doses. In Nigeria, it is now offered as degree courses in the university for a period of five years.

No Nigerian radiographer is jobless. They are in perpetual demand by several private hospitals who can only engage their services on a part time basis since they often can not pay them full time. That's why many of the experienced and qualified radiographers have gone overseas. In fact its possible that over 60% of radiographers trained between 1989-2009 are likely not living in Nigeria. The rest are in bigger blue chip companies. While few are found TEMPORARILY working at General Hospitals across the country. Those on PP (private practice, a term used by radiographers, sometimes in sarcasm) in private hospitals are newer, younger and student radiographers.

My advice to youths (and older middle aged men, even of up to 50 years) is to consider going back to study radiography if the right opportunity exists.
(To be Continued. Contributions welcomed)
CC: lalasticlala, Carrier and Education Mods, hope this can be shared for all to see on front
(c) 2016 themall on Nairaland.com

Arent they those guys who conduct ultrasound for pregnant women ?

I have stated this fact before too.

The ones in private practice earn up to N50,000 everyday.

I confirmed with my eyes.

9airaland:
But exclusive for the sciences students abi?

Nowadays in Nigeria, where the course is now been offered only at the universities, I guess you're right. But, you'll have to consult the JAMB requirements.

can i study the Radiogrph in masters degree after degree? currently am studying French and international Relations, am not science student

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Stefanelle:
....... and I've not seen an unemployed Medical Laboratory Scientist too

Iffa hear...

itstpia8:


Dont slow the op's roll.

Egg roll?

Bluffly:


You just spoke against your submission. You said "qualified radiographer" meaning there could be an unemployed radiographer who isn't qualified which then means we have radiographers looking for job because they are not qualified.

No way.
A radiographer allowed to practice by law is unqualified. Anyone in training is not yet qualified to practice and will likely engage in PP. I also mentioned X-Ray Technicians and other people who have worked around radiographers, illegally operating X-Ray machines.

Why would anyone be hoping to practice a profession s/he isn't qualified to practice. IS THAT THE NIGERIAN FACTOR!

LastMumu:
Abeeegi jor make we hear word, Radionics sef never get job for this country na radiographer wan come get job.

themall:
No mind dem jooor.

True talk..

You sound like someone who chose medicine and was given that course.maybe After being convinced,you now see the course like a saviour of the world and you are now forming Merlin