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The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:27pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Baba pupa wrote
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:28pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Bariga1 Wrote
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:29pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Brein wrote
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:31pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
jp phillips wrote
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:45pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Are these the real crooks responsible for the Mess in the Niger delta in the Last 10 years what happened to the following 13% of All Oil Revenue? Monthly allocations? Internally generated revenue?
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:47pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Is this Man guilty?
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:49pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Is this Man also guilty ?
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:52pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
How many of your people have u helped?
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 2:54pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Is this Man a freedom fighter or Mercenary? I understand he also ftravelled to germany for a Medical checkup - ?
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Kobojunkie: 3:05pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Roflmao!!!! You wan start wahala with this one oo!!! |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by puskin: 3:33pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
That guy JP Phillips really said it all. MEND is fighting a SELFISH cause. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by puskin: 3:40pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
They are all guity as CHARGED. Greedy and SELFISH bastards. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 9:12pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Kobojunkie: hoping to get a constructive debate |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Nobody: 9:41pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
J.P Philips bared the whole truth. Thanks. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by ono(m): 10:59pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
I haven't taken time to go through all that JP Phillips wrote - simply glanced through the write up, saw some worthless stuff, and moved on. I observed that in all of his write up, he never made mention of anything about the ND since the days of Oloibiri-1. He drew conclusions based on 'recent'' events in the country - since the days of OBJ. That's awfully shallow. He should go back to the very beginning. Until then, all of his write up is just another piece of crap. He also talked about Port Harcourt like someone who lived there in the early 70's. My guy, many things dey shele for that place wey you sef, when you come around you go bow. And talking about thieving governors during the OBJ presidency, he mentioned Ibori, Alams and co, as if they were the worst offenders at the time. We all know that OBJ was the king kong of his presidency. He was the alpha lord, who, as petroleum resources minister, stashed billions of dollars and other forex to resuscitate his moribound Otta Farm. He also used proceeds from oil block sales to build his ''hiltop mansion'' at Ibara in Abeokuta. It is a well known fact that he sold quite a lot of juicy oil blocks to his cronies and associates at the time. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Ibime(m): 11:02pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
Ono, there is no reason to be had with imbeciles. No Niger-Deltan should even bother himself with this bunch of crap. We might as well post pictures of all Governors and Ministers and highlight them as the cause of our collective misery in Nigeria. What that has to do with the contract we signed upon joining the Nigerian Federation in 1960 is another story altogether. "Resource Control" and "Development" are not interchangable terms. The leaders depicted are partly responsible for our lack of "development", but they have nothing to do with our lack of "resource control". Ibori, Odili, Alams and the rest will get their just deserts in due course. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by blacksta(m): 11:18pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
@ibime and Ono It is only fool that will deny the fact that other parts of Nigeria don't have their own issues with bad leadership. Ono i agree with u that Obj is the mother of crooks but one that stands outs is the Niger delta issue. A question i would like you guys to answer 1. Why is the fight not taken to the doorstep of past and present ND leaders Somebody like Odili or Ibori should be hung from a tree. 2. Is it not in the jurdisdiction of the state and local governments to make environmental laws 3. Is not the job of the state or local government to deal with local issues. and many more question as we proceed. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Ibime(m): 11:55pm On Aug 06, 2009 |
blacksta: There is no moral compunction for any Niger-Deltan to address these arguments borne out of superficial knowledge of the situation in ND, but I might as well indulge you since you share ties with Eleme people. (1.) It is a strategic and tactical mistake to bring the fight to ND leaders at this stage. Timiepriye Sylva alone can raise enough boys to chase MEND out of Bayelsa for good and derail the struggle indeterminably. It has been done before. Ask Odili what he did to the NDPVF before the formation of MEND On the other hand, despite their wickedness, these ND leaders do serve a purpose to the struggle and are regularly railroaded into buying arms for the boys. Their comeuppance will only be served when the major aggressor (Nigeria) has been dealt with. You cannot fight yourself in the presence of an enemy, neither can Mr Goat fight his enemy Mr Pig in the presence of Mr Lion. They will save their enmity for a later date. Even as we speak, Odili cannot go to PH without heavy arms, if at all. On the other hand, if those who steal 50% allocation (FG) were honest themselves, then they can implement the right laws and procedures to bring the 13% thieves (Odili et al) to book. What has the FG done for you with their 50% allocation? Infact, ND Governors such as Amaechi, Duke, Sylva, Ohakim, Uduaghan and Oshiomohle who have actually done something are exonerated by the actions of their 50% cousins. Bode George, OBJ, IBB and other federal players always top the list of looters and are big fry compared to their state-level compadres. A thief is a thief is a thief. . . but you who have a thief in your midst have no moral authority to condemn my struggle because of the thief in my midst, especially when you (Nigeria) have the legal jurisdiction to bring my thief to justice, and I dont. You forego your legal authority to book my thief, then expect me to pick up arms against my thief, knowing that he will fight back and derail my struggle completely. (2.) You cannot compare actions of the right honourable Fashola with what applies in ND. Picking rubbish from the street is not the same as stopping gas-flaring. Oil coys are already mandated to clean up spills, but lack of insincerity means that enforcement is a problem as these companies get away with paying paltry fines at court. Gas-flaring has already been outlawed at Federal level, but FG keeps postponing the date at which the law comes into effect. It is hardly wise to expect Amaechi to decree that gas-flaring must stop tomorrow when FG has already done so, but refuses to enforce it. Do you think FG will allow ND Governors to kill the cow which gives them milk> Thats not even under State jurisdiction sef. (3.) Yes. That is the premise of federalism. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by babapupa: 1:23am On Aug 07, 2009 |
Ibime-
Instead make your borrow leaf you dey yarn rubbish and acting disingenuous, Your leaders obviously no sabi their Job descriptions or they're freeking incompetent and don't give a shit, August 03, 2005 Pollution: LASEPA gives companies14-day ultimatum Lagos State Environmental Protection Agency (LASEPA) hasissued a 14-day ultimatum to all companies operating in the state to submittheir Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) or have their companies shut down. http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:F811W4w4c2oJ:news.biafranigeriaworld.com/archive/daily_independent/2005/08/03/pollution_lasepa_gives_companies14day_ultimatum.php+lasepa&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a NIMASA, LASEPA to trail vessels in Lagos dumping operation. NIMASA, LASEPA to trail vessels in Lagos dumping operation By Seye Olumide AN apparently clandestine operation involving extensive discharge of oil sludge through unmarked vessels into coastal waters has apparently been thriving close to the Snake Island area of Apapa in Lagos. http://omi-gbigbonacollective..com/2008/07/nimasa-lasepa-to-trail-vessels-in-lagos.html Lagos tackles illegal sand diggers as LASEPA shuts three firms By Tunde Alao THE Lagos State Ministry of Waterfront Infrastructure Development has launched what it calls 'Operation Sandy,' to curb the activities of individuals and organisations who engage in illegal and unauthorised dredging of sand in lagoons around the state. http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/homes_property/article11//indexn3_html?pdate=110509&ptitle=Lagos%20tackles%20illegal%20sand%20diggers%20as%20LASEPA%20shuts%20three%20firms&cpdate=140509 LASEPA Threatens To Shut Dangote, Others March 02, 2009 14:35, 142 views The Lagos State Environmental Protection Agency (LASEPA) has threatened to shut down Dangote Agro-Sack Company and nine others located in Ikeja over environmental nuisance. The companies have already been served abatement of environmental pollution notice under the LASEPA Edict, No.9 of 1997. Other companies served abatement notices are: Boulos Enterprises Limited and Standard Industrial Company Limited, both on Acme Road, Ogba, Multichem Industries Limited, Dorchester, Strides Vitaling Limited, Cormart Nigeria Limited and Michelin. http://thepmnews.com/2009/03/02/lasepa-threatens-to-shut-dangote-others . And about resource control. I said something about representation and governance per your elected and appointed leaders but you conveniently side stepped it. They are the folks in charge, they are your leaders and even given and with full resource control, every dime still got to go trough these clowns, not you or MEND, these clowns are your chief executives and they call the shots in their respective states. Your resource control argument don't mean jack because all roads still lead to the incompetent buffoons and thieves you call leaders and just like the rest of the country, your destiny is in the hands of crooks, thieves, enemies of your people and humanity. You guys really need to quit acting dumb and clueless |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Ibime(m): 1:48am On Aug 07, 2009 |
@ Babapupa, Dont compare mundane environmental issues with oil exploration issues. Fash is doing a good job, no doubt, but answer this: Does any state have the power to stop gas flaring? Do you know how long this issue has been in court? Do you think it would be in court if States had right to declare it illegal? Not a drop of oil is produced in Naija without gas being flared, so stop talking rubbish out of ignorance. As a rejoinder: http://www.greengrants.org/grantstories.php?news_id=38 A recent groundbreaking decision by Cross River State's governor, Mr. Donald Duke, offers an illustrative example of how grassroots organizations can work together to promote change at the local, state, and national level and safeguard Nigeria's precious natural resources. On July 7, 2004 Western Metal Products Company (WEMPCO), a Hong-Kong corporation, was ordered to close down its logging operations and evacuate the area. http://allafrica.com/stories/200812240438.html Yenagoa — The Bayelsa State Governor, Chief Timipre Sylva, has assured Bayelsans that his administration will enforce the forestry law of the state to stop wanton bush burning and illegal felling of trees All these other environmental wahala has never been the issue in ND. The environmental issues Blacksta is talking pertains solely to the oil and gas industry. Yes, I have a bright idea - All ND Governors should ban gas flaring so no oil is produced, and your state will not receive any allocation next month. It is then you would start begging us to[b] resume[/b] the pollution of our environment! I had hoped your reasoning would be more intelligent than your name sounds. . . |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Ibime(m): 1:53am On Aug 07, 2009 |
babapupa: Is resource control fair? Yes or No? All these extra arguments are really unnecessary and dumb. By your logic, we should also stop allocating 50% of all revenue derived from our resources to FG since all they would do is embezzle the money. Lets take it further. . . infact Britain should have never granted Nigeria independence since we were clrearly incapable of managing our own affairs. . . Yes o. . . we can pick gaping holes in stupid arguments all day. I repeat: A thief is a thief is a thief. . . but you who have a thief in your midst have no moral authority to condemn my struggle because of the thief in my midst, especially when you (Nigeria) have the legal jurisdiction to bring my thief to justice, and I dont. If they want to drink the crude-oil, let them drink it. We will cross that bridge when we get there. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Beaf: 1:54am On Aug 07, 2009 |
This Niger Delta thing really pains some folk from major ethnic groups. It is really a form of racism that can be summarised as; "how dare this bloody minorities who should just remain invisible and slave for us". The fact that the ND has gained a voice really, really, really pains these guys. No ND person will be bothered with this piffle. Haha! |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Kobojunkie: 1:59am On Aug 07, 2009 |
oh brother!!!! |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Beaf: 2:05am On Aug 07, 2009 |
They are jealous because we provide 95% of the nations revenue. . . They? They only digest!
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by babapupa: 2:19am On Aug 07, 2009 |
Ibime- Is resource control fair? Yes or No? Of what use is your resource control when the dividends dey chill inside private foreign bank account and financing mansions in any land but yours? I guess it's silly season because you people don begin reason like mumu with heads buried inside sand. And this is the caliber of the kind of people wey dey yarn on behalf of the delta? No wonder the delta is bleeped up. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Ibime(m): 2:21am On Aug 07, 2009 |
babapupa: And again I repeat: By your logic, we should also stop allocating 50% of all revenue derived from our resources to FG since all they would do is embezzle the money. Lets take it further. . . infact Britain should have never granted Nigeria independence since we were clearly incapable of managing our own affairs. . . Instead of facing YOUR GOVERNMENT who have the jurisdiction to fight corruption, you are facing the victims of the Niger-Delta who only want their just due. It seems some people have been lobotomised. Yes o. . . we can pick gaping holes in stupid arguments all day. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by babapupa: 2:58am On Aug 07, 2009 |
you are facing the victims of the Niger-Delta who only want their just due. Just open your mouth, shandy dey come. Mend and your jaguda leaders go deliver your dues just like they've been doing. I see you Ignored the Lasepa links and side stepped the fact that it's your leaders responsibility to enact and enforce environmental laws. You're picking gaping holes alright? |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Beaf: 3:05am On Aug 07, 2009 |
babapupa: Blaming the victim is something we've learnt from colonial masters and the likes of KKK. FG has a 60% share in all oil contracts, the other 40% is for the oil companies. ND leaders do not run the FG - the FG alone has set and broken enddates for gas flaring and levy's only the lightest punishment for environmental disasters (the FG bearing a 60%, doesn't want to fine itself). However, I welcome the day we'll be able to blame our leaders as you very ignorantly suggest; because on that day, we will have 100% resource control. A farm in the ND, yes thats oil not water and, yes thats a flare in the background.
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Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Theblessed(f): 3:15am On Aug 07, 2009 |
[b]I am not a political animal as politics is not really my forte however, I felt the need to say something here as I believe everyone should be aware of events around them, irrespective. Also, I do believe that Nigerian RESOURCES needs to be shared EQUITABLY to avoid situation as this that destabilizes our country and thus, our economy. Therefore, the Nigerian Government should examine its conscience (if it has one) and answer truthfully to God that its doing everything possible and all the RIGHT THINGS FOR THE BENEFIT OF IT'S PEOPLE. Also, it owes us an honest and intelligent National debate (for the first time in this country) on how it intends to stabilize our country and EQUITABLY share the revenues from its natural resources since INEQUALITIES are the issues, destabilizing our BLESSED country. Get me right, every society has it own issues on inequalities but there are MARKED inequalities in Nigerian society that needs to be seriously and, seriously addressed.[/b] |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Beaf: 3:38am On Aug 07, 2009 |
Nigeria is the Worlds top gas flarer (13%). We produce more greenhouse gases than the whole of sub-saharan Africa combined. It amounts to 3.25% the total gas consumtion of the US and 4% of total gas consumption in the EU. Nigeria flares 23 billion cubic meters per year, enough to meet all our energy needs, with a surplus for export, yet PHCN supplies constant blackout; are they ND as well? The country foolishly burns up US $2.5 billion annually through flaring. If some Nigerians embrace stupidity and blame the ND for polution, then it is no wonder that for this huge losses, oil companies have only been charged between US$150,000 and US$370,000 annually . Yes, lets blame ND elders because we are a little stupid. I have only spoken of costs (the only thing that concerns some people), nothing has been said about the deadly toxins released by these flares (several of which exist in close proximity to communities). . . Maybe ND people don't matter. |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by Nobody: 5:05am On Aug 07, 2009 |
Oh D.S.P Alamieyeseigha >>>> The man in question!. He is tough like an ancient warrior His dread turns a city into tales of horror His rage is the anathema that tames enemies of democracy He saved and dropped the uniform of military aristocracy His voice is replica of his people’s dream He sits on the seat of authority where power beams He was perturbed when men shed tears And revived them from slippery slopes of doubt and fear His hilarious laughter is the reverberating sound of an excited crowd On his head hanga halo and crown His bowler hat is the symbol of “resource control” struggle He soars with the wings of an eagle He dances at victory before it arrives He fought wars, conquered and came back alive His garments is like a royal robe of ancient duke His horizon is surrounded by flowers like the morning dew He runs with the strength of a horse He took a star medal in Nigeria Air force He walks relentlessly with the raindrops of sweat He sips wine that taste sour and sweet His eyes gleams with lions courage for conquest He keeps an open arm to the people’s request He cuts the bushes of Yenagoa with great valour He turned the city to paradise against underdevelopment squalor His majestic steps are strides of great achievement He held the sceptre of Bayelsa State Government Where men came to seek for favour in his mantle His house was full of armour bearers and knights He brought light to his people in their darkest night. He is a man of great confidence and covenant To defend the Ijaws both small and prominent He caused a national hullabaloo with his lions roar He is a God-fearing man with dignity and integrity A trait of individualism, peace loving and flexibility His leadership style makes him stand out in the nation He is a man that lives with a great name Diepreye, Solomon Peter, Alamieyeseigha has made fame Honourable enthroned, governor general of Niger Delta. He is a man of his words and revered by the kings and elders And chiefs as the Olotu of Olotus and Amaebidowei of Amassoma kingdom Because he is a pioneer democrat that have fought for his people’s freedom D.S.P is a man with the mind of the progressives Great land marks are visible in Bayelsa State by D.S.P’s prerogative |
Re: The True Story About The Niger Delta Area - Or do u have another version? by ono(m): 7:39am On Aug 07, 2009 |
I can now say that instead of JP Phillips making any sense with his outbursts and truckload of crap, Ibime has clarified issues succinctly. And for all those lover of truth and conscience, hear him. He obviously knows more than about the Niger Delta than JP Phillips. |
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