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Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 1:17pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
naptu2:When was Nigeria's Declaration of Independence signed? |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 1:18pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Suprnov3r:It will be a miracle if any of those guys have seen it. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 1:19pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
tsdarkside:I want to know what's in it. If there's a structure behind everything we are doing today. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by gartamanta: 2:09pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Nigerian Declaration of Independence? No such document exists because the various ethnic nationalities never formally came together to declare their allegiance to a Nigerian Nation. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by naptu2: 2:24pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Reyginus: 1) 1960. Signed by Princess Alexandria and Tafawa Balewa at the Independence Hall of the Federal Palace Hotel (I can't remember if it was on October 1st or 2nd). 2) 1963. Another declaration was signed when Nigeria became a republic. This was in tandem with the 1963 constitution which made Nigeria totally independent (the Queen was no longer our head of state and the Privy Council was no longer our highest court). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 2:39pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
naptu2:Do you have any link to this so I can verify and possibly know more about it? |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 2:41pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
gartamanta:Somebody is on it now. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by naptu2: 2:43pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Reyginus: I watched a video of the 1960 ceremony and saw a picture of the document a long time ago. I'm still searching for the picture and video, but the information is also presently on the Federal Palace website and on other material about the hotel. I haven't seen any evidence of the 1963 document, but I was told about it. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 2:47pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
naptu2:You mean this site http://www.suninternational.com/federal-palace/ |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by naptu2: 3:25pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Reyginus: Nope. It's the parent company's website (Sun International). You can also see other links below. I'm still going to try and find the picture and video I saw, but it's a long time since I saw it (more than ten years ago). http://www.suninternational.com/stories/travel/legend-of-giants/ http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/sunday/index.php/business/576-nigeria-is-good-investment-destination-but https://hotels.ng/hotel/29298-the-federal-palace-hotel-lagos https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Palace_Hotel Here is a picture of the Independence Hall (President Carter of the US and General Obasanjo signed another agreement here in 1978). www.nairaland.com/attachments/3291595_1042158115951175674122118703552695996407887n_jpeg41bde9686de579a602498519b7c8f82e |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by LoveDecay(m): 3:45pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Nigeria does not have a declaration of independence. Nigeria, did not fight for independence it was peacefully offered because of the trend in the Region. This is why Nigeria is still the best nation in sub-saharan africa, these issue we are going through by the special grace of God - we shall overcome. BIAFRA can have one, South Sudan can have one, America can have one, they shed blood for it and fought for it hence a declaration. Please, learn to use scholar.google.com to ask these stupid questions you have. Stop behaving like IPOB and Bokoharam or El-Zaky followers who have weak reasoning power. if thier is such a term. PS: nairaland need autocorrect, i am not correcting the speliing correctio |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 3:49pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
naptu2:Yeah. I've read it all even the redirect but still didn't see it. What do you think is responsible for the secrecy? Or is it a document signed by some Nigerians for the British? Are you even sure there's anything in the content of the back cover you saw? If there's who reasoned it and when? So many questions begging for answers. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 3:54pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
LoveDecay:Does that mean that wherever independence is peacefully achieved a declaration becomes unnecessary? Do you understand what Declaration of Independence really means? Let's not hide behind any insult if we are to present sound arguments. Please. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by naptu2: 4:07pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Reyginus: 1) Personally I believe it's because it's not that important. In politics and administration there's something called "the ecology of politics". What this basically means is that before implementing any policy or programme, you have to look at the context of the particular place. That determines if the policy or programme is workable. What worked somewhere else might not work in the particular place that you want to implement it. In this particular case, the declaration of independence is not as important to Nigerians as the 1957 and '58 constitutional conferences and the 1960 and 1963 constitutions. These were the means by which nigerians decided how they wanted to live after independence and these were the means by which they exerted their independence. Remember that the conferences and the 1960 constitution were in place before the declaration was signed. This is very different from the situation in the US where the declaration of independence was the first means by which the 13 colonies could independently decide how they wanted to live. So, for example, the US declaration of independence was an agreement between the 13 colonies. No representative of the British Government signed it. The nigerian declaration of independence was signed by Princess Alexandria on behalf of Great Britain and Tafawa Balewa on behalf of Nigeria. Now the 1957 and '58 constitutional conferences resulted in agreements between the three regions (each region sent 10 delegates and five advisers. The composition of the delegations reflected the ethnic groups in each region), the Federal Nigerian Government (Balewa and his ministers) and the British Government. 2) General Nigerian incompetence and laxity. There are tons of important nigerian historical materials that are not on the internet and are difficult to find. That's one of the problems I have on nairaland, because there are a lot of things I've seen in the past that are not on line (to young people today, if something is not online = it doesn't exist). A few days ago I was telling a nairalander how a lot of videos about Nigeria's history have been wiped off by officials at the NTA. I'll give you another example. I personally saw President Babangida sign the order to move the Federal Government from Lagos to Abuja in 1990. He signed it with a golden pen and gave everybody present gifts of golden pens. Good luck finding that document. I've even read seasoned internet historians say that there were no ceremonies to mark the movement of the capital (they say that Babangida fled Lagos in a hurry and without ceremony because of the SAP riots and Orkar Coup). I watched those ceremonies and attended some of them (the carnival on Catholic Mission Street, the commissioning of 3rd Mainland Bridge, the tree planting ceremony at City Hall, the state banquet at City Hall, the signing ceremony at Dodan Barracks, the flight around Lagos, etc). Good luck finding videos and pictures of those events. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 4:24pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
naptu2:In essence you think it exists but it's not within reach. Do you know or have an idea of the men that came about it and possibly when this thinking was done? Any clue at all you can give me. Thank you for the above. |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by Nobody: 4:56pm On Aug 08, 2016 |
Op, we seem to be on the same page. Exactly my thoughts. I want to write on it, are you interested? |
Re: Who Has Ever Seen The Nigerian Declaration Of Independence? by jpphilips(m): 9:17am On Feb 10, 2017 |
naptu2: Nigeria does not have or need a declaration of independence so the OP needs to put things in the right perspective, what Nigeria has is a "Freedom Charter" handed to the first speaker Jaja Wachuku, my best guess is that the document may be in the Archives of the National assembly, someone once told me it was framed at the lobby of the former Assembly complex in Lagos. parliamentarians of the first republic will be in the best position to answer that question. Cameroon for example does not have neither freedom Charter nor DI but the "Pacte coloniale" agreement, so it depends on the circumstances that led to your freedom and the terms of your freedom. |
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