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Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by oloriooko(m): 8:35am On Apr 24, 2016 |
When your pastor in church becomes your arch enemy trying to see you go down, turning church members against you, spreading unwholesome things about you and you have done everything possible to find out what you did wrong but the pastor refused to talk to you, even when some people try mediating, the pastor cunningly dodge the matter, please what would you do? 2 Likes |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by malvisguy212: 8:45am On Apr 24, 2016 |
oloriooko:is it compulsory to remain in that church ? Did the bible encourage such behavior ? Why do you guys always bring irrelevant topics here ? You are not a kid, you know what to do. Modified* I know thread like this will not make front page, so let me use this opportunity to pass it here: https://www.nairaland.com/2552255/god-love-innocent-wouldnt-suffer If God eradicated everyone who has ever caused pain by selfishness, cheating, lying, gossiping or hurtful remarks, who would be left? People say, "Suffering is God's fault!", In other words,if we disobey God,it's God's fault? conveniently forgetting times our own anger, greed and lies hurt others. To wipe out some people who cause suffering, and spare you and me, would make God guilty of gross injustice. We have each added to humanity's shame. If there is a God of love, the people he loves and longs to place in a pain-free world are the very ones who cause humanity's suffering. We are so far from being innocent that we owe our very existence to sin. If, for example, we traced our family tree far enough,we would probably each find an ancestor born as a result of sin - rape, unlawful Inbreeding, a despised pregnancy, sex before marriage, and the like. Humanity can boast only ONE PERFECT PERSON . We killed him. Frequently, we hear or read a comment like this: "I simply cannot believe in a God who permits innocent children to starve and suffer, and men like Hitler and Stalin to murder millions of people." The examples may vary,but the thoughts are always the same. Supposedly,this is "proof" that either God doesn't exist, or that if He does, He either doesn't care about our sufferings, or He is not powerful enough to do anything about them. But suffering is neither proof of God's non-existence or existence. Saying, "If God exists, why is there suffering?" is like saying "If San Francisco exists, why are there earthquakes?" Do earthquakes occur because San Francisco causes them? Or do they occur in spite of San Francisco? Or do they have nothing to do with San Francisco? Well, we know the answer to that question because we know about San Francisco and we know about earthquakes.But how much do we really know about God? If we define Him by our own nature, then He cannot be of any greater character than ourselves. We may ascribe to Him a greater power than ourselves, but when we suppose that God should or should not act like this or that,then all we are really saying is, "He should act like I would if I were God." STARVING: Now, let's look at starving children. The Bible says that in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. That includes everything necessary to feed and provide for its inhabitants. Can anyone deny that the earth is capable of producing more than enough food to feed the entire globe? Well then, if people are starving, whose fault is that? If God made the earth, is He also supposed to plant and distribute our crops for us? Do you remember the tons of food that were shipped to Ethiopia, but did not reach the starving people who needed it? Whose fault was that? The reason that over 90% of the masses have barely enough to survive on,is that there is a problem of DISTRIBUTION, not of SUPPLY .A tiny minority have far more than they need, depriving the many. SUFFERING: Regarding suffering that is the result of sin, what could be clearer than Romans 1:28–29 and Galatians 6:8–9? The unbeliever may stomp about with all vigor and complain that it is "bigotry" to associate the rise of AIDS and other diseases to sin; that biblical morality is narrow-minded, outdated, and totally wrong. But this fact is unalterable: In a society where biblical morality is abandoned, suffering always increases. Where biblical morality is followed, suffering always declines. Always. (Isa.59:1-4). As to Hitler, Stalin, street gangs and senseless murders: Would any of these things happen if people followed the teachings of Jesus? Do you realize what this world would be like if people simply followed God's instructions? There would be no murder, no wars. There would be no welfare, because families would take care of their own (and families would stay together) and those who did not have families would be provided for by their fellow-members in Christ. There would be no starvation… I could go on, but the point is: God has provided us answers; whose fault is it that we don't seek them or heed them when we find them? I suspect that those who use suffering as a "proof" of God's non-existence would not want to have their free choice taken away from them,but that's exactly what God would have to do if He were to enforce His will on the earth. For if God were to intervene in the matter of suffering, would He not also intervene in the matter of sin? If He did, He would have to be a dictator. Then how would we react? We would not want that,and according to the Bible, God doesn't want it either. He wants us to obey Him because we want to, not because we have to. And in order to accomplish this, He must allow two things to happen. First, in order to grant us free choice, He must provide us with graphic examples of the consequences of the wrong choice. Secondly,He must allow injustices and sufferings; otherwise he'd provide sinful mankind with every blessing and benefit without restriction. If everything in this life was fair, good and happy, what need would there be to seek a better life? Why would we seek a Deliverer, if there was nothing to be delivered from? Suffering is not something that ought to turn people away from God, but draw them to Him. 126 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by TPAND(f): 8:46am On Apr 24, 2016 |
I have two perfect solutions to your answers. 1. Change your church. You need a shepherd that sees his flocks indifferently. Be careful of eye service and manpleasing in your next church. Respect is reciprocal. If you respect and humble yourself. Don't give them too much attention. They will respect you 2. Ignore him. When you see him greet him and say God bless you sir. Try and see that Jesus has mediated us with the father and no pastor can take glory for someone's communication and closeness with God. Do your bit, pay tithes, give generously in church and never let the pastor antics incite you. Ignore whatever shenanigan he might plot with the members against you. Just be humble and keep to yourself. 20 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by sammieguze(m): 8:47am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Change church and lets hear word. How can a pastor who keeps malice gonna be able to lead you to heaven? Abeg change ship sharp sharp 21 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by dollyjoy(f): 8:47am On Apr 24, 2016 |
oloriooko:who tied you to that church?tell the person to release you asap! 21 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by oloriooko(m): 8:47am On Apr 24, 2016 |
malvisguy212:Please stop the insult if you have nothing worthwhile to say, thanks 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by mccoy47(m): 9:02am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Whats d problem dia If your pastor hates u, u sef hate him back! Spread lies against him dat he is a homosexual or phalse prophet 33 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by oloriooko(m): 9:04am On Apr 24, 2016 |
mccoy47: Thanks but won't 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Sweetguy25: 9:14am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Who your pastor don help? 33 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by stevebond007(m): 9:14am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Some people r just funny... Pastor na God 4 dem. And so? 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by adexsimply(m): 9:14am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Dem use rope tie you down ni? 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Aviero: 9:14am On Apr 24, 2016 |
You're a weakling. You can actually make the people turn against the Pastor. Since the Pastor has decided to make you miserable; you have to fight back. This is what you should do: Whenever there is a deliverance session in church, just fake falling under the anointing. Start crying. Start rolling on the floor. Then, start speaking in tongues. Then, say the following words: I have given you enough time. Since you've decided not to repent of your sins, Put your house in order, for I am taking you away. Make sure you put his name in between. Watch what will follow. 13 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Nobody: 9:15am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Nigerians and religious slavery. Nawa. Someone must have told him what u did not do and d confused man too is using d wrong info to act without proof I'm sure u go to a prophetic church bcus na dem dey use vision scatter things like that Untill u realize that ur self esteem and mind health is as important as ur religion; infact more than ur religion u will keep being enslaved to such pastoral misbehaviours. So u better leave the church and stop being a victim of nonsense. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Ayoswit(f): 9:15am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Go to a church where u are celebrated and not tolerated. Leave d church asap, infact start attending a church close to the church, to pacify ur pastor's anger. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Nobody: 9:16am On Apr 24, 2016 |
What you should do is to hate him back and do whatever he does to you badly in multiple folds. I dnt understand why some xtians carry pastor matter for head like face cap. Are they not the one's that preach we are all equal in the face of lord? That's how my friend always shout Adeboye's name every morning when praying. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Nobody: 9:16am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Waka leave the church now 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Lovexme(m): 9:17am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Salvation is personal. Who cares what your pastor thinks or says about you? If you can't handle it, leave the church. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by rexfada(m): 9:17am On Apr 24, 2016 |
oloriooko: Is your pastor God... Why are you worried that he hates you Move the fffkk on... Abi you depend on the pastor to feed and cater for your needs?? Change your church brother, change your pastor!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by nnadychuks(m): 9:17am On Apr 24, 2016 |
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Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:17am On Apr 24, 2016 |
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Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by dayoungmoney1: 9:18am On Apr 24, 2016 |
na only him church dey? my guy find another church na. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by johnsonjosbles(m): 9:18am On Apr 24, 2016 |
oloriooko:hope u dont hate urself? the to hell with ur pastor. may be u r blocking his lies to make money 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Nobody: 9:18am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Get the Bleep out of the fucking church.. Abi them tie your destiny there? A real man of God shouldn't be hating in the first place. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Nobody: 9:19am On Apr 24, 2016 |
oloriooko:same case with me buh i stopped coming to church, am looking for a new church that will accept me since march i have never been to church 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by freecocoa(f): 9:19am On Apr 24, 2016 |
This your story get k-leg o but are you sure you have been consistent in paying tithes, offerings and any other monies? There's nothing that offends a pastor more than someone who refuses to contribute to his heavenly account, that's like robbing him physically, using a machine gun. Kikikiki 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by nnadychuks(m): 9:19am On Apr 24, 2016 |
oloriooko: 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by vicolurin(f): 9:19am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Na dat church dey bury ur placenta abi?? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Mekky2010: 9:19am On Apr 24, 2016 |
After service today , walk straight to him, hold his trouser and start shouting "I will never let u go unless u stop hating". It works like magic. Thank me later 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Dottore: 9:20am On Apr 24, 2016 |
The best things is to try and reconcile. Call for dialogue, if it doesn't work out you better change your church. Don't fight him its not worth it 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by Nobody: 9:20am On Apr 24, 2016 |
oloriooko: go to another church 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Help! My Pastor Hates Me! by fogunloto: 9:20am On Apr 24, 2016 |
Your Pastor is not God..... 1 Like 1 Share |
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