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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by PastorAIO: 8:24pm On Jan 24, 2018 |
You seem to be saying that all events in this world are a product of some combination of these 5 rules. However the bible contradicts you explicitly. OkaiCorne: Proverbs 21:31 31 The horse is made ready for the day of battle, but the victory belongs to the Lord. The bible says that here even though the horses were prepared for the battle etc It is God's will that decides the outcome. OkaiCorne: |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by OkaiCorne(m): 8:40pm On Jan 24, 2018 |
PastorAIO: I get you perfectly, that's why I love to read the Bible and search out for patterns (the big picture) rather than details (such as the verse you just quoted). Focusing on the details while missing out on the bigger picture might lead one to mistaking a single tree to be the forest. If you have time to spare further, watch that video version on the book of Proverbs. The book of Proverbs limits the causative factors of events to just the first three factors such that every reaction around you is solely due to your actions. The book of Ecclesiastes widens the scope allowing for unpredictability such as the actions of others, and the unknown. The book of Proverbs only limits outcomes to your actions which is rather a limited view of the bigger picture... |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by irynterri(f): 11:52pm On Jan 24, 2018 |
Ferisidowu:God bless you brother. Sadly, that is what Nigerian Christians think Christianity is all about, that is why they boast in praying long prayers filled with empty phrases and do abominable acts because most of them are filled with deceiving demons. The only way you can find out who is true is by their fruits, someone filled with the Holy Spirit shows love, charity and can forgive while someone filled with another spirit shows hatred, unforgiveness and greed |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 6:38pm On Jan 25, 2018 |
irynterri: thanks |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by lilliesboy(m): 11:37pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
HardMirror:Truly, the easiest and surest way for someone to become an atheist or religious skeptic is for them to personally and continuously read the Bible/Qur'an with an open mind. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by CAPSLOCKED: 9:40am On Jun 12, 2018 |
I WAS ORDAINED FULLY BY THE HOLY FSM ON THIS THREAD.... "The more fervent our prayers, the more wiggly must our noodly fingers be. RAmen." 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 7:52am On Jul 22, 2018 |
Just saw this thread today and this is what I have to say I have seen miracles happen right in front of me, in my presence, where I was the only one there. I always tell people until u stop all these church this and that and build up a personal relationship with God, u will never get to know what he can do in ur own personal life. I am not here to challenge atheists but to advice my fellow Christians, strive to go so deep with God that u know that nothing on earth can bring u out. Right from a tender age I have seen God do unbelievable things for me things nobody can explain. Atheists will call it coincidence even those who know nothing about probability permutations and combinations. If the christian life I live today is a fairy tale, I will gladly want to keep dabbling in that fairy tale all my life because I will never dream of a life that is better than that 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 9:11am On Jul 22, 2018 |
zionmde: ""I have seen miracles happen right in front of me, in my presence, where I was the only one there."" Blatant lies, U have never seen any miracles, except fake miracles where pastors bring healthy people and pay dem to pretend that they are cripple or blind or deaf or dumb n then the pastor heals them on stage. Show me ur evidence. Show me deaf dumb blind cripple person u personally know that has been healed by a man of God.......Then I and every other normal person will believe u. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 9:37am On Jul 22, 2018 |
PrecisionFx: lol its either u say am lying or u say its coincidence I never called the OP a liar, he can believe Wat he want to. I have no reason to lie, even though I was brought up spiritually by a church, right now I don't represent any church and I don't preach churches. So why would I lie And argument that is based on "u are lying" and not "this is why it happened" is not worth it Am not a pastor, I am not a church leader, I didn't even go to church today but I have personal proves that God's hand is working things in my life Now I will say this again, if the life I am living is full of coincidence and fairy tales I rather live and die in it because I am enjoying it. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 11:24am On Jul 22, 2018 |
zionmde: "" I have personal proves that God's hand is working things in my life"" Same way Muslims, Hindus, Eckankar, Animists etc have proof that God's hand is working in their lives....No big deal... Like I said earlier n I repeat again... Nobody u know have been healed of blindness deafness dumbness and crippleness, Lol. The the healing miracles u see pastors do on stage is fraud, U don't know any of those people from Adam so u can never tell weda they have been sick. (U avoided it abi; D). 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 11:38am On Jul 22, 2018 |
PrecisionFx:people are blinded by their selfish support for their religion. 4 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 12:04pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
PrecisionFx:What difference does it make.If I Tell u of a girls I know for long who was blind get healed, u will still say its a lie. If I also tell u about a close relation of mine, u will still say its a lie, if I tell u of my mum, u will still say its a lie, if I tell u of myself u will still say its a lie Why its a waste of time arguing with people like u is that u term whatever u don't believe "A lie" Healing is not the only thing God can do. There are much more. My life is full of those things u call lies, coincidence, bla bla bla and I am enjoying it. as a mathematician it is abnormal for any event whose probability to occur is less than 0.01 to occur more than 4 consecutive times |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 1:52pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
zionmde:of cos we wld say it is a lie cos you cant or wont give evidence. Ok lets go! Bring the evidence of the blind girl that got healed! |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 1:57pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
zionmde: ur just beating about the Bush for nothing. I expected u to tell me the Person u know personally that has been healed of blindness deafness dumbness n crippleness because u are an acclaimed Christian and u will never lie in the name of God, against God or for God. U simply have never seen someone u know get healed by the so called powerful Men of God. Simple. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 2:24pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
HardMirror:If you actually became a Pastor and answered to the title Pastor my friend you were NEVER a Christian in the first place please true Christians don't bear titles. Matthew 23:8 So from the beginning till now you were and still remains an atheist (those who has NO regards for written documents but rely on their own thinking to do things) Christians are those who concor 100% to whatever Jesus(Christ) says no matter what! Therefore if you were taught to bear RELIGIOUS titles along with your names then you were a MISINFORMED atheist back then Sir you are NEVER a Christian. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 2:33pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
PrecisionFx:they should keep deceiving themselves. I am waiting for him to present his evidences 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 2:41pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
HardMirror:Evidence?? As I said before, u told ur story and I didn't say its a lie neither did I ask u for evidence. Am not here for that argument of God is real or not. Am just here to advice my fellow Christians, Having a deeper and closer personal relationship with God is better trying to show off,Going to church, being a prayer warrior, prayer coordinator, brother Holy ghost, Brother tongues bla bla bla. I have passed the level of Christianity show off u talked about in ur story, I have gotten to that point where I wanted to call it quit with Christianity, I saw denigrating things in the so called house of God, at the end of the day I retired to"me and my God" status. I have enjoyed my walk with the Almighty that way. I pray to God and I see answers in terrific ways, I just smile give him thanks and move on. The only course in my university days I should have gotten F I went down on my knees cried to my God and the result came out, I got a C. I went to see my script, it was an F score but up till today the lecturer didn't know how on earth he gave me C. you may call it a coincidence but I live in those coincidences everyday and am enjoying it. I needed a laptop critically at work, I spoke to God and a colleague of mine who has never brought his laptop brought it that day and guess Wat, I was the only one that that used it all day. Coincidence? Yes or no but I am enjoying it that way I got a job via video interview unknown to me my subscription couldn't carry it, I had no cash anywhere, pocket or account. 2 mins before the interview I got a surprise alert from my brother He didn't even tell me Wat the money was for, during the interview my data finished ( a situation I could never have had a solution for) I recharged from my bank, continued and I got the job. Coincidence? Yes or No but I am enjoying it that way I told my roomie that as I am going for a vacation all the breakable plates will be broken before I leave (Something brought about the joke though) The day I was to travel all the plates came crashing down from where they were kept it was the guy that reminded me of that joke. Coincidence? Yes or No but am enjoying my life that way. I can go on and on and on U can call it a lie, a coincidence or whatever but I have come to that level that nothing on earth I mean nothing can convince me that there is no God. keep ur conviction if u enjoy it. let me keep mine, I am enjoying it and I have nothing to loose 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 2:43pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
zionmde:oga you talk too much. Where is the evidence that you have a sister that was blind and got healed! 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 2:44pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
HardMirror:"deceiving" Lol am not even trying to ask u to stop being an atheist so why the deceit? Am not preaching any church so why the deceit? What will I gain in the deceit? I am only admonishing Christians to hold fast to their God. You that have fallen off, pls remain where u are, its ur choice, its ur business. Deceit indeed Evidence indeed |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 2:46pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
zionmde:trying to run away i see. So you dont have any evidence and you want me to believe you?! Lol! What a clown! |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 2:47pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
zionmde:oga! You talktoomuch! You have a sister that was blind and now healed miraculously! Show us some evidence! Stop dribbling about |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 2:48pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
HardMirror:Hahaha did I talk more than u have done already Why complaining of talking too much wen u wrote pages trying to convince people u have been hiding ur identity and yet u want me to unveil another person's identity Are u not being hypocritic? moreover I didn't say "my sister" Go back and read again 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 2:50pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
HardMirror: Now he is saying I talk too much Someone who filled up to 70 pages without revealing his identity 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 2:50pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
zionmde:mr man, in christianity anyother female christian is your sister. So i know what i am saying. Bring evidence or shut up! |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 2:53pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
HardMirror: Now he is getting irked And since u started ur story, Wat evidence have brought to prove that it is true? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 8:03am On Jul 23, 2018 |
zionmde:lol! I thought as much. Christians and their lies! All of a sudden he has become defensive when asked to produce evidence. Lies lies lies! A religion that claims to be founded on righteousness being propagated by lies! Shameless useless people. Still waiting for the evidence of the blind girl that got healed. Bloody liar. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 8:16am On Jul 23, 2018 |
HardMirror:lol Are u that pained Why sounding so angry? Have life frustrated u that much? Have u become that hopeless? Have u so much baptized urself into lies that u now see everything as a lie? I thought they said atheists are happier people, maybe its just a lie U haven't still told us Wat humbled u to this pathetic state that u call people u havent met before "useless" Sorry for ur pitiable plight, living with so much agony and hatred will only damage ur health. If u say u are now an atheist, OK enjoy ur life or did u find out that there is no peace within u anymore and u decided to pour out ur frustrations on Christianity and Christians. I have not told a single lie here bro and its not my business if u believe it or not 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 8:19am On Jul 23, 2018 |
zionmde:i dont even bother reading your comments. All i am waiting for is the proof that you know a lady who was blind and now can see. You think we are stupid? Lol. Even your fellow christians are waiting cos they have never seen any blind person who can see cos of prayers. This wld be the first miracle we wld have on record if you can prove it. That is all i care for, every other thing you are saying are just bla bla bla |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 2:32pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
HardMirror:blind? stupid? lol U can only believe Wat u want to believe. No matter the evidence that comes up u will find a way to convince urself that Wat u believe is the ultimate. U ask me for evidence of the blind girl right? I don't do all those shit. Wen I say something I don't care about defending it because it doesn't change anything Mr evidence Wat evidence do u have that the woman u call mother gave birth to u? 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 4:25pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
zionmde:tot as much! He just pulled the so called miracle out his butt. The usual, i am not surprised. Church is a fraud! All the televised miracles are lies! Ask to meet any of those so called healed people and all the lies are blown open just as the case of my deluded friend here, blabbering since he was asked to show us the sister he claimed was once blind but can now see. Lol |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by spartan117(m): 4:35pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
Hardmirror I've always wanted to hear your story, I didn't know you had already posted it.didn't have the time to go through the whole thread though, given the mess it turned out to be. however from what I gathered it is safe to conclude that you got blinded due to your own pride. from what you wrote you had passion for souls and therefore you were given the gift of the spirit to help these souls. Soon you became skilled in the use of this gift and 'you perceived' that others saw you as anointed. then the devil saw this as an opportunity and thus sowed the seed of pride in your heart. You then began to see yourself as an "ASF Legend" as you clearly stated and also saw other leaders in your fellowship as inferior, that was the demeanor you exhibited in the way you described your 'entrance' into the deliverance session of a lady possesed with the spirit of fornication in your campus fellowship. This demeanor of pride is also noticeable in the way you described several other experiences in your Christian life. Then you lost your connection with the holy spirit hence your personal relationship with God, but it didn't show yet because you kept functioning in your gift. what you failed to realize is that the anointing was going to soon dry up due to the fact that you had lost connection with the source. ...To be continued shortly. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by zionmde: 5:53pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
HardMirror:pulled the miracle off his butt? Did atheism really encourage u to use foul language in public? Hypocrisy is wen u ask someone to do Wat u don't want to do. Why don't u put up ur pics here or ur full name. I will verify ur story, if its true I will foot ur transport to a particular address (somewhere in the east) where u will see d girl. Am not related to the girl but through my contacts in her church I will locate her for u. Whether church is a fraud or not is not my business I started by saying I don't preach church. From ur comments its so obvious that Christians are much more happier than the so called atheists. I can imagine how frustrated u must. be feeling right now. feeling that the God u trusted for years betrayed u. lol, I will say it again, if the Godly life is a fairy tale I will gladly continue in it because am actually enjoying it. |
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