We hope dis project is completed I'm due time without any hiccups. We really need light in dis country. Most things depend on power and profit rates wld increase with steady power supply.

tbaba1234:

There is movement.. lets see where it takes us.

Apt! Better!!

No project worth that money anywhere in the world last for 63months.
You can take that to the bank.

Every power engineering project can be delivered in no more than 36months.
Any thing above this will mean the technology is old by the time it is installed and the component are not available in the market for OEM replacement.

Plus it allows for contract cost renegotiation due to exchange rate difference over this time which has bugged down almost all our project, a clear departure from the past with smart project managers who can plan and execute project that will result in dividend delivery to US without the long wait and excuses.

micktoxin:

Lagos is massively underpowered. Using the western diversity factor a typical 3 bed house in Lagos should be allocated 2KVA or 1.3KVA for 2bed. Now do the maths for all the houses in Lagos and you will see 3GW isn't that much.
The thing is people are being conservative in their load usage because of lack of stable electricity. So the real load is definitely higher than what everyone is currently using.

Lagos needs at least 4000 MW for a start based on its population. Cities with smaller population like Johannesburg consume between 2500 - 3500 MW.

daniska3yaro:
Taraba hmm

Its not Taraba Hmm. Havent u noticed? All development plans r going to SW,CENTRAL,NE,NW states. If the put in SS/SE now, they will blow it up. Then start claiming marginalization.

isnovic:
No project worth that money anywhere in the world last for 63months.
You can take that to the bank.

Every power engineering project can be delivered in no more than 36months.
Any thing above this will mean the technology is old by the time it is installed and the component are not available in the market for OEM replacement.

Plus it allows for contract cost renegotiation due to exchange rate difference over this time which has bugged down almost all our project, a clear departure from the past with smart project managers who can plan and execute project that will result in dividend delivery to US without the long wait and excuses.

1. The standard time for building Hydro power plant of this size is 5 years.

2. You are not in any threat of technology changes in Hydro-power plants, technology changes do not happen that fast in that industry.

chudionu58:
Yet, Jonathan was expected to solve all problems in record time. Hmmmmmm!

it shouldn't always be about GEJ, government is not competition rather it should be about hope and emancipation. So change how u see things!

malton:



Building of power plants isn't child's play.

It takes time, resources and commitment. The Three Gorges Dam in China took 15 years and 25 billion pounds to build to completion.

and fashola said, it's not rocket science that he can build it in 8 months. Meanwhile they promised 40,000 megawatss in 4 years. Why 3050 megawatts?

bettercreature:
This silllly people should build one power plant in ibadan,lagos or ondo state,those 3 states are the safest and most stable states
Lagos and ondo are now producing oil so their is going to be enough gas to fuel the plants
I don't trust the north or those region called south south/east part of Nigeria

Don't just comment for the sake of it That's hydro not gas powered. Besides, is Taraba affected by Boko Haram? No!

This country is so hard to rule, I really pity our leaders. There's so many moronic comments on this thread. How do you expect a government of just one year to fix all the problems of over 50 years? The people in this government seem to have good intentions, and they seem to be doing a few things right. They are still unsettled, as the country is facing an economic meltdown apart from so many security and political issues. This is going to take any government sometime to solve this.

There are so many unpatriotic Nigerians who only think about their own personal gains even if it destroys the country. People from the East are hellbent on destroying this government, irrespective of their best intentions. Boko Haram is another issue. Easterners(so called Biafrans) want to make sure that this government fails, mainly because the government is blocking the source of their stolen funds. Unfortunately Nigeria does not have enough infrastructure to deal with these rogues calling themselves militants. Irrespective of the degree of militancy, Biafra is no more and cannot be resuscitated, the rest of Nigeria will not allow it. The sooner people get this into their thick skulls, the better

senior123:


Its not Taraba Hmm. Havent u noticed? All development plans r going to SW,CENTRAL,NE,NW states. If the put in SS/SE now, they will blow it up. Then start claiming marginalization.

name a project blown up in the se

AkoEja:
This country is so hard to rule, I really pity our leaders. There's so many moronic comments on this thread. How do you expect a government of just one year to fix all the problems of over 50 years? The people in this government seem to have good intentions, and they seem to be doing a few things right. They are still unsettled, as the country is facing an economic meltdown apart from so many security and political issues. This is going to take any government sometime to solve this.

There are so many unpatriotic Nigerians who only think about their own personal gains even if it destroys the country. People from the East are hellbent on destroying this government, irrespective of their best intentions. Boko Haram is another issue. Easterners(so called Biafrans) want to make sure that this government fails, mainly because the government is blocking the source of their stolen funds. Unfortunately Nigeria does not have enough infrastructure to deal with these rogues calling themselves militants. Irrespective of the degree of militancy, Biafra is no more and cannot be resuscitated, the rest of Nigeria will not allow it. The sooner people get this into their thick skulls, the better

why are you confusing Biafra and militancy?

asha80:
name a project blown up in the se

Wen they wanted to build railroads tru SE, rather than u guys to come up with a logical roadmap on what to be included in the budget, u pple turned it into political drama. Everybody has just ignored u pple. Wen u guys r ready and see that u r being left behind maybe some senses might emerge. Even in Bayelsa, they said "We can't allow this to happen. If GEJ did not do PMB now wants to do it. What will pple say?" Wat sort of mentality is that. Abeggi. u pple should stop disturbin jare. Tell ur govs to bring back ur money from their accounts

tbaba1234:


It is not difficult to diversify from oil, it will just take time. Oil is only 13% of GDP. With proper tax coverage, oil can be made less relevant.

bros dont allow these guys lie to u, oil is 100percent of gdp.

how come more than 28states cant pay salaries today? since we hv other sectors generating more than 80percent?

90percent of imports is from oil, taxation from ports na oil, monies invested in agric n research na oil.

tobyemmanuel:
Rubbish! Mambilla PP is still under construction since jonathan regime. Now they are just awarding contract of an under construction plant. I am no wailer but who is fooling who. Check wikipedia, mambiila pp was expected to finish dis year

bros God bless u, u know say I was like which mambilla again.
cos I still remember nta did a lil documentary on mambilla power project last month or so, the project had since commenced, just starvation of funds that has cripple the job.

why r nigerians so gullible, abi dem no dey listen to news again?
chai god deliver these zombies o, n dash dem small brains.

senior123:


Wen they wanted to build railroads tru SE, rather than u guys to come up with a logical roadmap on what to be included in the budget, u pple turned it into political drama. Everybody has just ignored u pple. Wen u guys r ready and see that u r being left behind maybe some senses might emerge. Even in Bayelsa, they said "We can't allow this to happen. If GEJ did not do PMB now wants to do it. What will pple say?" Wat sort of mentality is that. Abeggi. u pple should stop disturbin jare. Tell ur govs to bring back ur money from their accounts

you went ranting without making any point or answering my question..name a project blown up in the se?..it was the executive and legislative chamber that were throwing tantrums about a rail project that passes mostly sw and ss a tiny part of it passing se(aba)..bayelsa is not se in case you do not know nigeria so please go and brush up your current affairs ..too many kids on nairaland these days

googlepikin:
We've been hearing this since 1975. No need to still be excited. Lubbish

That is why Buhari is not d cause of hardtimes we are going through. Blame it on the government that has been in power since 1975...

ALISMILE:
That why I said steps! Note the plurality! Tthe govt is serious about diversifying the economy! Its gonna take time! But I believe the govt can do it! The unpredictability of oil prices and the unprovoked militant activities re already enough motivation for the govt!

They don't know what's going on,, i remembered when they tried to destroy the economy of Lagos, look at Lagos today, if it doesn't kill us, it will only make us strong.

ALISMILE:
Countries that do not ve oil still some how manage to generate electricity! Don't they? This oil has really made us mentally lazy!

yeah by importing gas

valuedammy:

That is why Buhari is not d cause of hardtimes we are going through. Blame it on the government that has been in power since 1975...

which includes Buhari in 1980s

googlepikin:
which includes Buhari in 1980s

Buhari only spent about a year in government as head of sate before evil man Babangida took over. How much can you do in one year?

tbaba1234:


1. The standard time for building Hydro power plant of this size is 5 years.

2. You are not in any threat of technology changes in Hydro-power plants, technology changes do not happen that fast in that industry.

Tbaba you may not be too correct as actual constructions don't take that long.

Maybe Environment Impact Assessment
Procurement
Permits and other legal works if combined then yes, but actual construction like in this case can be consummated in no less than 36months.

It is an sadly true that power technology is not rapidly changing but it is changing at a pace shorter than the time frame of this project.


Additionally, hydro-dams are gradually incorporating other forms of generation to augment during low water situations.
Examples include hydro-dams with Close Combined gas turbine system with hydro systems. Or hydro with thermal system. hydro and wind plus a whole lot of other mix.


What makes it more interesting is that no hydro-dam is built on a singular operating principle anymore as a curtail of energy mix is usually planned with it, but tbaba am sure this has no such plan as they were not forward looking.

Yes technology may not change that fast, but it changes nonetheless with the attendant OEM spare part issues when it is commission.

I have a lot of examples here in the plant I work in...where the manufacturers of the parts used in some project have either stop stocking the parts or liquidate altogether.

isnovic:


Tbaba you may not be too correct as actual constructions don't take that long.

Maybe Environment Impact Assessment
Procurement
Permits and other legal works if combined then yes, but actual construction like in this case can be consummated in no less than 36months.

It is an sadly true that power technology is not rapidly changing but it is changing at a pace shorter than the time frame of this project.


Additionally, hydro-dams are gradually incorporating other forms of generation to augment during low water situations.
Examples include hydro-dams with Close Combined gas turbine system with hydro systems. Or hydro with thermal system. hydro and wind plus a whole lot of other mix.


What makes it more interesting is that no hydro-dam is built on a singular operating principle anymore as a curtail of energy mix is usually planned with it, but tbaba am sure this has no such plan as they were not forward looking.

Yes technology may not change that fast, but it changes nonetheless with the attendant OEM spare part issues when it is commission.

I have a lot of examples here in the plant I work in...where the manufacturers of the parts used in some project have either stop stocking the parts or liquidate altogether.

Yes, you are correct. I am talking about the whole project. Seeing that the site is not yet secure, i will think that the preparation phase is not yet complete. If that is the case, then 5 years is a reasonable estimate.

The old dams were built a very long time ago so new technology would affect the availability of old parts. But i think 5 years in Hydro is not the same as 5 years in wind, as technology change is much more rapid in wind.