Fine nurse

goodlifehyd1:
Nigerians don't really care as long as you not in the main campus with others... Even those studying Laboratory science are called Doctor not to talk about Pharmacy or nursing students. They see everybody as Doctor.

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What an insolence 'even those studying laboratory science',ur semantic usage of d word laboratory science depicted d fact u don't rily have a knowledge on the health sector or u re only being mischievious cuz Medical Laboratory Science(not laboratory science) or beta stil Laboratory medicine is a distinctive noble medical profession that plays very pivotal role in the diagnosis,treatment and management of disease of a patient.

finalboss1:
hmm...why his he telling us .strike tomorrow... how ll this stop it

But you are dressed like a doctor. Theatre code for DOCTORS and sterile ware is green, nurses white and blue for anaesthetists. Why are you in green and why the stethoscope? The only person to carry theatre stethoscope should be dressed in blue while seated at the head of the table. Where did you train?

Mbediogu:


But you are dressed like a doctor. Theatre code for DOCTORS and sterile ware is green, nurses white and blue for anaesthetists. Why are you in green and why the stethoscope? The only person to carry theatre stethoscope should be dressed in blue while seated at the head of the table. Where did you train?

ehm are u asking me

Flashh:

E be like like say they don swear for una with this statement.

Mostly used when not needed.

lolz...mehn that was epic

Kudos bro.. Nursing remains ever Noble.. General public, be warned...!

RaeMystix:


True. I'm will never underestimate doctors and as matter of fact, i actually do admire the years of hardwork being put into becoming a doctor. That been said, Nursing isn't also a major that one should underestimate, and is no longer that easy to obtain. It also requires years of coursework, clinicals and dedication. It ain't no sociology/ psychology degree.

Nice one.

finalboss1:
ehm are u asking me

Not innocent u bros. Sorry about the mix up.

RaeMystix:


True. I'm will never underestimate doctors and as matter of fact, i actually do admire the years of hardwork being put into becoming a doctor. That been said, Nursing isn't also a major that one should underestimate, and is no longer that easy to obtain. It also requires years of coursework, clinicals and dedication. It ain't no sociology/ psychology degree.

RaeMystix are you a Nurse? Cause I can see you are really trying to correct people's impression about the whole Nurse-Doctor ish. You can only try, people who are not of the profession may still not understand. People generally see lab/ward coats as belonging to Doctors, so even if a registered nurse has it on most will still call him/her Doctor just like the way "Engineer" is abused nowadays. A roadside phone repairer will answer Engineer, but Engineering graduates know better.... You've made your point!

anny268:
Fine nurse

You are not bad either

What a contradiction? U just claimed to be a nurse and not a doctor, yet u equated your knowledge and practice to that of a doctor. Have you ever seen a doctor equating his knowledge to a nurse or others?
In summary, u enjoy being falsely call a doctor

In Nija Every Male Care Giver in an Hospital is a Doctor While Every Female Care Giver is a Nurse...

Now tell me, How can you be a Nurse

tosin2013:
Nurses and doctors DONOT have the same amount of knowledge of patients!

The difference is as clear as night and day!

Thank you.

so u dont know the meaning of relatively? and u are here showing ur mumuness

[quote author=opribo post=45722346]I consider nursing as a female job, a job where you will only be administering treatment drugs to patients and caring for the sick patient untill full recovery and at the sametime taking direct orders from the doctors prescriptions.If women can be doctors and consultants how then can a man aspire to be only a nurse unless maybe for places where the pay is ok like in yankee otherwise it doesnt make sense.

BTW, OP was wrong when he said they have the same knowledge of the human anatomy with doctors that is a lie. Dostors spend seven to eight years and it takes an average of three years to do a nursing a midwifery program at LUTH then if you go abroad you just take their board exams to upgrade to their standard

Nurses have their own work and doctors have their own work and never confuse the two, they are not the same and can never be the same. Doctor will diagnose and prescribe drugs, pharmacist will dispense it and nurses will administer the drugs and manage patient to full recovery. It is even a dirty job because if the patient is an incontinence patient they will clean the patient feaces and urine. So tell me how can a man be doing such for another man for that matter, a woman we can understand because they are mothers so they are good at caring but a whole man haba.

If a man is in yankee i dont blame such as far as hustling is concerned but in Naija to be doing nursing something must be wrong somewhere.[/q
With mentality like this, why won't our youth result to robbery, when people like you make an honest honourable job look demeaning

[quote author=opribo post=45722346]I consider nursing as a female job, a job where you will only be administering treatment drugs to patients and caring for the sick patient untill full recovery and at the sametime taking direct orders from the doctors prescriptions.If women can be doctors and consultants how then can a man aspire to be only a nurse unless maybe for places where the pay is ok like in yankee otherwise it doesnt make sense.

BTW, OP was wrong when he said they have the same knowledge of the human anatomy with doctors that is a lie. Dostors spend seven to eight years and it takes an average of three years to do a nursing a midwifery program at LUTH then if you go abroad you just take their board exams to upgrade to their standard

Nurses have their own work and doctors have their own work and never confuse the two, they are not the same and can never be the same. Doctor will diagnose and prescribe drugs, pharmacist will dispense it and nurses will administer the drugs and manage patient to full recovery. It is even a dirty job because if the patient is an incontinence patient they will clean the patient feaces and urine. So tell me how can a man be doing such for another man for that matter, a woman we can understand because they are mothers so they are good at caring but a whole man haba.

If a man is in yankee i dont blame such as far as hustling is concerned but in Naija to be doing nursing something must be wrong somewhe



I knw u must be a Dr.This your ego is one of those factors killing you guys.Have you forgotten that both Nursing and medical students sat in thesame class to receive lectures on Anatomy,physiology,pharmacology,Biochemistry etc.You guys spent 5years in school,Nurses also spent 5years.
what makes it 6years is your house job of which you are duly paid for.Have you forgotten that Nurses are also entitled to one year internship to make their course of study also 6 years?

Medicine has changed dramatically over the years with new drugs and treatments revolutionising
the way patients are cared for.
With that has come an overhaul in the way staff work. In particular, the demarcation between
doctors and nurses.
What was once the preserve of doctors - prescribing drugs, ordering x-rays, referring patients and
diagnosing - is now also done by many senior nurses who have had extra training.
They go by a variety of titles from nurse consultants and clinical nurse specialists to nurse
practitioners.
Some specialise in a particular condition - diabetes or heart disease for example - while others
coordinate care in A&Es and or community settings.
Go to a walk-in clinic or minor injury unit and the chances are you'll be seen by a nurse.
Some GPs also use nurse practitioners to ease their workload by carrying out consultations.

The 'super' nurse
Matt Hodson is a nurse consultant who specialises in respiratory disease.
He has a masters and doctorate and leads a team of specialists who provide care in the
community and in hospitals in east London.
Unless a patient has an emergency, they need never see a doctor - something the public still
does not fully appreciate.
"Before we started, patients either saw their GP or went to hospital," he said.
"But now we are able to look after their needs - we can refer, prescribe, give clinical advice.
"If problems flare up we can provide oxygen or a nebuliser. These are the sort of things
traditionally done in a hospital but there is a lot nurses can do," added Mr Hodson.
And the evidence suggests it works.
Research by the British Heart Foundation on heart failure specialist nurses has shown that they
can reduce hospital admissions and consultant appointments, giving a saving of over £1,800 per
patient.
The charity Parkinson's UK has found that a specialist nurse saves over £200,000 a year in
avoidable bed days, consultant appointments and unplanned admissions.
Over the years I have heard nurses describing themselves as "mini-doctors" or "substitute
doctors" doing the jobs medics once did.
In fact, on wards you can sometimes find experienced nurses being assertive in discussions with
junior doctors.

Nurses v doctors
There are nearly 330,000 nurses (in terms of full time equivalents) working in the NHS in
England - with 64,000 working in senior roles.
By comparison there are more than 32,000 GPs and 40,000 consultants.
GP partners (those which run practices) earn an average of £102,000 a year, while those that
are employed by practices get £56,000.
Pay for senior nurse roles varies greatly, with salary bands stretching from £31,000 to £81,000.
All this begs the question: what more could senior nurses do?
After all, the NHS is facing particular problems recruiting GPs and A&E doctors in particular,
while the ageing population is putting more and more demands on services.
It was a point floated by the Royal College of Nursing this week.
Peter Carter, the union's general secretary, said senior nurses were a "huge part of the solution"
in the push to create seven-day services as they could "make decisions, supervise teams and
educate and mentor".
Currently there are about 64,000 nurses employed in England in senior roles - although it will
include those in managerial position as well as nurse consultants and the like.
That is only marginally fewer than the 72,000 hospital consultants and GPs that are on the pay
roll.

What do doctors think?
The medical profession has always been reluctant to relinquish its roles and responsibilities.
Paul Flynn, chair of the British Medical Association consultants committee, and a consultant
obstetrician and gynaecologist, believes there is a "limit" to how far you can go with this.
He says evidence shows those senior nurses working in general practice, for example, order more
tests and take longer to do consultations.
"It's not always more efficient, what we need is properly resourced staff across the NHS," he said.
"In hospitals nurse specialists can take on some of the jobs. For example I will make the
diagnosis and then the nurse will take charge of discussing treatment options and managing that
side.
"It means I can get on and see the next patient. But you can't simply replace one with another,"
he explained.
It is, of course, a fair point.
But with the nature of health care changing as medicine advances, and a growing amount of time
devoted to helping people manage their conditions, there is arguably a growing role for the expert
nurse as a way of making resources stretch further.It is only in Nigeria that you see nurses as second class citizens.
I wish to be a nurse,thats why i went to study Nursing.The bulk of what i know,you dont.On the other hand,you want to be a Dr,that's why u went to the medical school.so what you know,I don't. Cos I didn't study medicine!

Firstly, you are making a mistake here. The general Theatre scrub color is Green. Different Hospitals have adopted various colors for their personnel. so the issue of color is dependent on the hospital Management.
Secondly, there is no where it is written that stethoscope is the sole equipment of a doctor. Have you not heard Nurse Anesthetist, Respiratory Nurse, etc. I guess you have limited yourself to this Country too much that you are also having Folie a deux. You need to brace yourself with the 21st Century Medical practice and not be judging from your myopic view.

Mbediogu:


But you are dressed like a doctor. Theatre code for DOCTORS and sterile ware is green, nurses white and blue for anaesthetists. Why are you in green and why the stethoscope? The only person to carry theatre stethoscope should be dressed in blue while seated at the head of the table. Where did you train?

SlimBrawnie:
In Nigeria, guys are doctors and ladies are nurses... Besides, when growing up, nurses were portrayed using ladies and doctors, guys....we know,but leave am for us like that. You can educate the younger generation on the differences. LoL at Midwife(I just imagined telling someone my husband is a MIDWIFE)

You should be proud if your husband is a midwife. Luxury home care during your pregnancy and plus since he is the father of the child 100% tender love and care. So you better be happy for yourself.

tosin2013:
Nurses and doctors DONOT have the same amount of knowledge of patients!

The difference is as clear as night and day!

Thank you.

Na fight. Can doctors function effectively without nurses.

I knw u must be a Dr.This your ego is one of those factors killing you guys.Have you forgotten
that both Nursing and medical students sat in thesame class to receive lectures on
Anatomy,physiology,pharmacology,Biochemistry etc.You guys spent 5years in school,Nurses also
spent 5years.
what makes it 6years is your house job of which you are duly paid for.Have you forgotten that
Nurses are also entitled to one year internship to make their course of study also 6 years?
Medicine has changed dramatically over the years with new drugs and treatments revolutionising
the way patients are cared for.
With that has come an overhaul in the way staff work. In particular, the demarcation between
doctors and nurses.
What was once the preserve of doctors - prescribing drugs, ordering x-rays, referring patients and
diagnosing - is now also done by many senior nurses who have had extra training.
They go by a variety of titles from nurse consultants and clinical nurse specialists to nurse
practitioners.
Some specialise in a particular condition - diabetes or heart disease for example - while others
coordinate care in A&Es and or community settings.
Go to a walk-in clinic or minor injury unit and the chances are you'll be seen by a nurse.
Some GPs also use nurse practitioners to ease their workload by carrying out consultations.
The 'super' nurse
Matt Hodson is a nurse consultant who specialises in respiratory disease.
He has a masters and doctorate and leads a team of specialists who provide care in the
community and in hospitals in east London.
Unless a patient has an emergency, they need never see a doctor - something the public still
does not fully appreciate.
"Before we started, patients either saw their GP or went to hospital," he said.
"But now we are able to look after their needs - we can refer, prescribe, give clinical advice.
"If problems flare up we can provide oxygen or a nebuliser. These are the sort of things
traditionally done in a hospital but there is a lot nurses can do," added Mr Hodson.
And the evidence suggests it works.
Research by the British Heart Foundation on heart failure specialist nurses has shown that they
can reduce hospital admissions and consultant appointments, giving a saving of over £1,800 per
patient.
The charity Parkinson's UK has found that a specialist nurse saves over £200,000 a year in
avoidable bed days, consultant appointments and unplanned admissions.
Over the years I have heard nurses describing themselves as "mini-doctors" or "substitute
doctors" doing the jobs medics once did.
In fact, on wards you can sometimes find experienced nurses being assertive in discussions with
junior doctors.
Nurses v doctors
There are nearly 330,000 nurses (in terms of full time equivalents) working in the NHS in
England - with 64,000 working in senior roles.
By comparison there are more than 32,000 GPs and 40,000 consultants.
GP partners (those which run practices) earn an average of £102,000 a year, while those that
are employed by practices get £56,000.
Pay for senior nurse roles varies greatly, with salary bands stretching from £31,000 to £81,000.
All this begs the question: what more could senior nurses do?
After all, the NHS is facing particular problems recruiting GPs and A&E doctors in particular,
while the ageing population is putting more and more demands on services.
It was a point floated by the Royal College of Nursing this week.
Peter Carter, the union's general secretary, said senior nurses were a "huge part of the solution"
in the push to create seven-day services as they could "make decisions, supervise teams and
educate and mentor".
Currently there are about 64,000 nurses employed in England in senior roles - although it will
include those in managerial position as well as nurse consultants and the like.
That is only marginally fewer than the 72,000 hospital consultants and GPs that are on the pay
roll.
What do doctors think?
The medical profession has always been reluctant to relinquish its roles and responsibilities.
Paul Flynn, chair of the British Medical Association consultants committee, and a consultant
obstetrician and gynaecologist, believes there is a "limit" to how far you can go with this.
He says evidence shows those senior nurses working in general practice, for example, order more
tests and take longer to do consultations.
"It's not always more efficient, what we need is properly resourced staff across the NHS," he said.
"In hospitals nurse specialists can take on some of the jobs. For example I will make the
diagnosis and then the nurse will take charge of discussing treatment options and managing that
side.
"It means I can get on and see the next patient. But you can't simply replace one with another,"
he explained.
It is, of course, a fair point.
But with the nature of health care changing as medicine advances, and a growing amount of time
devoted to helping people manage their conditions, there is arguably a growing role for the expert
nurse as a way of making resources stretch further.It is only in Nigeria that you see nurses as
second class citizens.
I wish to be a nurse,thats why i went to study Nursing.The bulk of what i know,you dont.On the
other hand,you want to be a Dr,that's why u went to the medical school.so what you know,I
don't. Cos I didn't study medicine!

samnijazz:
Firstly, you are making a mistake here. The general Theatre scrub color is Green. Different Hospitals have adopted various colors for their personnel. so the issue of color is dependent on the hospital Management.
Secondly, there is no where it is written that stethoscope is the sole equipment of a doctor. Have you not heard Nurse Anesthetist, Respiratory Nurse, etc. I guess you have limited yourself to this Country too much that you are also having Folie a deux. You need to brace yourself with the 21st Century Medical practice and not be judging from your myopic view.

Read me again and understand me. A general surgeon with decades of experience at that level in 3 continent s of the world.

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As usual, this thread has turned to a doctor/nurse bashing thread. Its just a pity.

I just don't understand the problem with health workers cant you all just work together in peace must you feel superior or inferior to another health worker. Any thread about nurse or pharmacist or doctors the bashing begins and this is one of the reasons I feel there is a long way to go in healthcare delivery in Nigeria everything is about scoring a cheap point they forget the most important thing - the patients health.



The moment you guys realize you are a team the better for all of us Nigerians. I even wonder how you work together with so much hate its not as if one is independent of the other. Everyone of you is interdependent. You all have to work together everyone has their role to play.


Nonsense.




P.s I am not a health personell

Doctors vs Nurses season 1

SlimBrawnie:
In Nigeria, guys are doctors and ladies are nurses... Besides, when growing up, nurses were portrayed using ladies and doctors, guys....we know,but leave am for us like that. You can educate the younger generation on the differences. LoL at Midwife(I just imagined telling someone my husband is a MIDWIFE)

You are on point and indeed funny too

Lol! Kelvin who skyrocketed your picture and post to nairaland?. Just busy reading comments : guys are yabbing ladies are praising and I busy reading comments.

laryom1:
Nice one.

Thanks.

olrotimi:

i get your drift. nicely said

Thankyou.

Joygalore:
Shut that poo you call mouth
Doctors and nurses are never same and will never be.
Jump into the ocean if you are jealous

am not surprise nairaland is full of bitches this days, I repeat you guys gat only ego but Nuffing upstairs imagine asking a student doctor questions and the nigga was instantly dumb only a nursing student could provide an answer in the united state hope u guys know your level sha, nursing are coming back to regain there glory from you clowns.

MarieSucre:

Na fight. Can doctors function effectively without nurses.

This clearly shows you don't know the functions of docs and nurses..

guymanDspecies:


Now you are underestimating psychology and sociology degree and calling nursing in Nigeria local. Psychology and sociology are simplier courses than nursing but medicine is not a tougher course than nursing, serious fallacy. For a nurse to work in d USA she writes a single exam which u should find out d name. For an international doctor he write Step1, Step 2 CK, Step 2 CS, and step 3 of USLME thAt should immediately spot a difference.

I'm sorry If I my comments offend a few folks by Making such comparison. Just trying to correct you on your reaseach. Inorder to obtain just a bachelors in Nursing. One has to take not one, but two major exams. Teas test, which is an entrance exam into the Nursing program and also the NCLEX which is a board exam that is required to be taken before one can be officially considered a nurse.
Now for anyone willing on going further with his or her education such as a NP who after obtaining a Bachelors of Science in Nursing degree, also has to spend three additional years obtaining a doctorate's while doing clinical work. He/she also has to take a specialized certification exam to be considered a Certified Nursing Practictoner.


My point is that Nursing doesn't end at one obtaining an Associate or a Bachelors. There's alot more to Nursing that people aren't giving credit for.

guymanDspecies:


Of all the countries in the world your so call certified nurse practitioner is only in d USA. And reason was shortage of doctors and by law once a doctor is there he immediately take charge of patient care. A physician assistant is even more regarded than a nursing practioner. Plsss stop stressing on d wrong thing.

"Of all the countries in the world your so call cerified nurse practitioner is only In d USA"?.

You can't anymore wrong than you are now. Make sure you do a thorough research before commenting next time. It makes you sound ignorant, and I don't want to believe that. YET!!!.