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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Nobody: 11:50am On May 25, 2016
Please forgive...but Jonathan was an empirical economic disaster cry

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by sammhi(m): 12:00pm On May 25, 2016
very misleading topic but I guess u are a paid agent..
truth is PmB and APc were never prepared for governance..that is it..
back to the issues..while I strongly believe GEJ could have done much better but we must also remba what was the minimum wage as Yardua demise..8'500..GEJ moved it to18,000.. that is more than a doubling your wage bill and will have impact in your revenue..also.. Sanusi spent close to 7trn or more depending the Naira during his 5 years tenure ..that wa a waste..
what infrastructure was laid by Yardua..? GEJ ensured continuity..I don't have the complete details but what was significant about GEJ era was the economic and social stability or rather a boom in our economy. It is indisputable.
when PmB took over crude was still 54$ ..
I think part of PmB problem is that he is too afraid of the future....he wants to be remembered as having reserves despite the recession to the detriment of the nation's populace welfare.
His money or rather fiscal policies are shambolic and his macro economic policies are rather vague....
He is more interested in personal glory than leaving behind a nation who are well fed..
with aTSA of 3 trn.. there is no justification for the hardship..
there are countries witout oil are they not doing well..? He kept 3trn in TSA while the country suffers ..worse the money is not available to the banks or the ordinary man..that is the real koko
am sure in his one year speech he is going to boast about that ...
When IBB overthrew him in 1984 , there was a boom in the.economy until SAP in 1989.. but SAP lasted just a year and by 1990 money was available.
please note that in IBB tenure average oil price was 9$ until 1991 gulf oil wind fall lasting Just about one year.
PMb economic policies are achaic and is anchored on govt instead of being private sector driven
if SOME of the 3 trn in TSA is made available to entrepreneurs and investors, our economy will boom..but it is lying idle while the people groan under hardship..this is the real koko

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by folks4luv(f): 12:03pm On May 25, 2016
plaetton:


Op.

You are a big liar.

As of October 2015, Nigeria's external debt stood at around $10b.
In FACT, $8b to $10 had been the average since 2008, long before Jonathan became president.

Therefore, Jonathan did not increase Nigeria's external debt by any significant amount.

It is on record that the current minister of finance is using Nigeria's very low DEBT to GDP ratio as a justification for seeking more external loans this year.

In your lopsided analysis, selective amnesia didn't allow you mention that OBJ inherited a Nigeria that had completely collapsed economically and politically.

He inherited a mere $3b in reserves and $38b in debt and oil price in the teens.
How did he and NOI do the magic?

Buhari inherited $30b reserves, $10b external debt and he is sulking and whining like a spoilt brat.

Be man enough to call incompetence and failure what it is: INCOMPETENCE and FAILURE.

All of you should go and hide in shame.

hummmm. great counter.

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by gabicon: 12:03pm On May 25, 2016
plaetton:


Lol.
What a joker.

How dare you quote Premium Times to me as your source for economic facts.

Premium Times is a tabloid, not a source for real economic facts.

I suggest you get an education to help you know the difference between external DEBT and Total debt stock that includes Domestic DEBT.

Stop embarrassing yourself with your half-baked knowledge.

Gosh!
Talk about dishonesty and buffoonery. undecided

As much as I will want to reason with you, I can't help but think that you are merely giving facts from your head, I'll suggest you bring facts that can be referenced be it tabloid or NBS to educate the undecided on this issue

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by ken4jj(m): 12:08pm On May 25, 2016
Gentlemen and Ladies,

At what point (P), Time (T) and Moment (M) should we stop this blame game? There is no right thinking person that will say the last Administration did well but PMB was voted to correct the wrong and make things better not worsen the situation.

All we hear is blame, blame and excuses. PMB was not begged to take the job,he hustled for it and got it. If he know he is not capable of turning things around, then he should move his ass out of the Aso rock and allow other to try. After all some leaders resign honorably in other parts of the world.

Make no mistake, i am not entirely putting all the blame on him but this whining has to stop. If we keep accepting blames and excuses, we will never get anywhere. he is not the only leader who is taking over a Nation that is down, it is someone that lifted America out of the great depression, someone transformed Singapore and South Korea etc. They did not keep whining before they pulled their country out of danger.

It is disappointing to see educated people keep making excuses for PMB. The easiest thing for someone to do is to point fingers at others and make excuses for their failures but note that THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR FAILURE. The earlier you supporters shun blame game and start pressuring him to transform this country, they better for your all. he will only be remembered from what happens from the day he took over to the day he leaves office.

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Bimpe29: 12:10pm On May 25, 2016
In God we trust, in PMB we hope for better and prosperous Nigeria.
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Stalwert: 12:13pm On May 25, 2016
MetaHuman:
exactly..

I use to respect the dude in religion section as one of the smart ones.. But politics and tribalism has really brought out the dumbness and ediocy in him grin
He throws logic and facts in to the wind at the alter of bigotry whenever he talks now. grin
this aptly covers his treacherous character

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by agabaI23(m): 12:14pm On May 25, 2016
koboko69:


The joke is on you. You guys only see what you want to see.

You cleary see this

"Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, promptly rose to the defence of Mr. Jonathan’s administration, saying of the $63 billion debt, the administration only incurred $21.8 billion."

See link;

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/185471-jonathan-left-n7trillion-deficit-for-nigeria-buharis-transition-committee-chairman-joda.html

As for OBJ, he received the bulk of Abacha's loot. And it took a whooping 8 year to leave 47bn in the reserves. Also note that oil prices soared high, hence your logic is null and void.

Get your facts right.
First off, why did you eliminate the fact that oil rose to $147/barrel under UMYA before the downward trend?

Under Jonathan, the highest was about $105 or so...

Can you clarify if the $21.8 b mentioned by NOI include both foreign and domestic debt. I remember when NOI said that the bulk of the debt is due to the salary increase of 2010 which 'APC' strongly supported against NOI advice that the country could not carry it.

Out of the $21.8b, what percentage is external and what is domestic?

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Nobody: 12:14pm On May 25, 2016
plaetton:


More than 100 petitions against Amaechi have been forwarded to the EFCC.

Can u swear on the life of ur seeds born and unborn on this?


I have seen copies of such petitions, marked " received " by EFCC, here on Nairaland.

Yes and far before he became minister he like his other colleagues have been investigated and found not wanting. Wike claims he has documents to nail him, why and what is stopping him from starting prosecution if he is so sure of himself? He doesn't even need efcc to do that. Does Amaechi has immunity


Aside from that , last October, CNN reported that Amaechi had $750 or so stashed in a named American bank.

Kindly provide the CNN link to this report and not what another online bullshit claimed they said and let's see how wise u are.


Has EFCC even questioned one single person to at least very the seriousness of such allegations ?

Yes they have. Infact they didn't need to call upon Amaechi but he presented himself after submittal of the petition. They realised the petition was nothing but baseless lies. The main reason why wike finds it difficult to prosecute.


So Wike should take Amaechi to court for allegedly stealing millions of dollars in Rivers State funds?

Who is in a better position to do that? So it is Buhari who is in aso rock that will know more about the alleged thievery that happened in brick house than wike himself who is currently occupying it and have access to all documents that even aso rock doesn't?


This is clearly where you have displayed your dishonesty.

Actually u displayed senselessness in here. Wike should wake up and start prosecution.


Big laugh.
So, where is the EFCC?
Does the EFCC have no jurisdiction on economic crimes committed in Rivers State ?

The same economic crimes wike and his cronies have not been able to prove? No shred of verifiable evidence presented. Efcc has no time for such bullshit

[s]
I now realize that you must be a juvenile , probably paid for image laundering of your savior god, Buhari.[/s]

Bunkum


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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Acidosis(m): 12:14pm On May 25, 2016
Another epileptic chronicle to console sold out zombies.


The good thing about you all is that You're much more optimistic than Buhari.

He has told you all that he has no understanding why he became president at this time (even though he has been contesting since 1999).

The good thing is that we are all in this together. Keep the optimism high wink E go shock una!

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Paye88(m): 12:15pm On May 25, 2016
Most Nigerians who criticize president Buhari do that out of Sentiment for the Man or just ignorance. With the current economic trend specially in the downstream sector, th hardship we face today in Nigeria is a direct fallout of failure of governance by the Goodluck Jonathan administration. Even if he was still in power and a mono economy solely dependent on oil, we still would not escape the current hardships. I bet many of you GEJites would not see that. Okonjo-Iweala knew that when she said Nigeria will face trying times. These are those times. Let's not even go into the corruption aspect and how GEJs croonies looted this country and left us in a sorry state. Government is a continuity but the truth is The GEJ administration burnt all bridges before leaving office. Buhari is in a very terrible position right now regarding the affairs of the Nigerian economy but let's give the man a chance. Its less than a year and we are already judging the man. Let's wait and See...

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by kaboninc(m): 12:15pm On May 25, 2016
koboko69:


You cleary see this

"Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, promptly rose to the defence of Mr. Jonathan’s administration, saying of the $63 billion debt, the administration only incurred $21.8 billion."

See link;

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/185471-jonathan-left-n7trillion-deficit-for-nigeria-buharis-transition-committee-chairman-joda.html

I already responded to your friend on this already



It appeared you did not even read what you wrote. What's your gain for coming up with this lopsided basis of oargument? In your own words, your first post, here is what you said:

THE REALITY TODAY

Buhari met $32 bn as external reserves and $63 billion esternal debt even though Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, promptly rose to the defence of Mr. Jonathan’s administration, saying of the $63 billion debt, the administration only incurred $21.8 billion. How the external debt rose to an alarming rate remains unclear. Buhari also met a subsidy debt of about N600bn. How subsidy claims rose from N320bn to a whooping 2 trillion Naira under his administration remains unclear till this day.

Are you also lazy not to note that it was never an external debt stock as you wrongly stated (of course with the intention of distorting facts and misleading the audience) but a total debt stock which consist of domestic and external component?

Did you also forget (because of the the hatred in you - for truth) that you did not put into consideration the statement of the former Minister that the (Jonathan) administration only incurred $21.8 billion (which is the Federal Government's share of the total debt)

Are you also this ignorant that the total debt stock is not exclusive to the Federal Government but other tiers of government?

Some of you guys who write lies, half-truths, fictions, distort statements just keep making mockery of yourselves.

You gained nothing by that epistle.

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by omonla555: 12:16pm On May 25, 2016
The federal government has borrowed 473 billion naira to meet up with recurrent expenditure including paying of salaries while it is yet to release funds for capital projects.

According to Reuters, Nigeria has already used half the borrowing allowance it has budgeted for and has not released any funds for capital expenditure so far this year, as lower oil prices eat into its revenues, the country’s finance minister said on Tuesday.

“We have serious challenges,” Finance Minister Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala said in an emailed statement. “Things have been tough since the beginning of the year and they are likely to remain so till the end of the year.”

The borrowed money has been spent to cover overhead, including salaries, the minister said.

Lawmakers in Africa’s biggest economy and oil producer last week passed a 4.49 trillion naira ($23 billion) budget for 2015, 3.2 percent lower than last year’s spending plans. It was forced to cut spending after global oil prices slumped.

The budget took longer than usual getting through parliament, worsening the cash squeeze, because of the closely fought general elections in March, which saw incumbent President Goodluck Jonathan defeated.

“As a result of the 50 percent decline in oil revenues, the country has faced a difficult cash crunch … Out of the 882 billon naira budgetary provision for borrowing, the government has borrowed 473 billion naira to meet up with recurrent expenditure,” the finance ministry said.

Okonjo-Iweala had projected annual domestic borrowing last year would fall to below 500 billion naira from 577 billion naira in 2013.

The borrowing requirement this year could crowd out lending to the real economy, raising domestic interest rates and yields on government bonds, which could hurt growth. Forecasts for growth have already been lowered twice this year.

The ministry said that inflation is still in single digits and that the Nigerian economy is projected to grow by 4.8 percent this year.

Government revenues have shrunk sharply since oil sales account for up to 80 percent of them and its currency, the naira, has weakened drastically, despite the central bank’s spending billions of U.S. dollars to prop it up.

The lack of funds for capital expenditure means badly needed infrastructure development will be put on hold. Funding for large projects such as bridges and roads had already begun to dry up in 2014, forcing construction firms companies with government contracts to cut back and fire thousands of workers.

http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/05/06/fg-borrows-n473bn-to-pay-salaries-okonjo-iweala/

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by kaboninc(m): 12:18pm On May 25, 2016
Paye88:
Most Nigerians who criticize president Buhari do that out of Sentiment for the Man or just ignorance. With the current economic trend specially in the downstream sector, th hardship we face today in Nigeria is a direct fallout of failure of governance by the Goodluck Jonathan administration. Even if he was still in power and a mono economy solely dependent on oil, we still would not escape the current hardships. I bet many of you GEJites would not see that. Okonjo-Iweala knew that when she said Nigeria will face trying times. These are those times. Let's not even go into the corruption aspect and how GEJs croonies looted this country and left us in a sorry state. Government is a continuity but the truth is The GEJ administration burnt all bridges before leaving office. Buhari is in a very terrible position right now regarding the affairs of the Nigerian economy but let's give the man a chance. Its less than a year and we are already judging the man. Let's wait and See...

I wonder if you are also not talking from a sentimental point of view.

Tell me one single policy initiated by this government (don't talk about the policies of the previous administration that this government is implementing)

We talk of loots. Well, all eyes are on the PDP. Lets wait for the APC and we'll see how the money used in financing Mr. Buhari's campaign will be explained.

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Acidosis(m): 12:18pm On May 25, 2016
Is Jonathan also responsible for the current epileptic power supply, tomato Ebola?
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Nobody: 12:21pm On May 25, 2016
folks4luv:

hummmm. great counter.
how is that a great counter exactly? Please show me... I really want to see it.

He didn't refute the fact that Jonathan left a very well battered country ... He only pointed out the abnormailties in figures which he was wrong cos he refused to bring fact as op did.. Op already, addressed the figure in his post self which on 100% you didn't read. Thanks to bigotry!

And you think its a great counter? Mehnnn Nigerian yoot oh! grin

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by kaboninc(m): 12:23pm On May 25, 2016
gabicon:


As much as I will want to reason with you, I can't help but think that you are merely giving facts from your head, I'll suggest you bring facts that can be referenced be it tabloid or NBS to educate the undecided on this issue

From the comments on this thread, you seem not to have found something about the total, foreign and domestic debt issues? With all the links flying here and there?
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Nobody: 12:24pm On May 25, 2016
Acidosis:
Is Jonathan also responsible for the current epileptic power supply, tomato Ebola?
yes, because we don't know what he did with 12billions dollars meant for power.. Use your brain.

And no one is responsible for pest just like hiv and there pests diseases out there.
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by MrDoGood(m): 12:24pm On May 25, 2016
koboko69:
The late President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua became Nigeria's president on May 29 2007. As at the time, he met an external debt of about $3,348.22 billion, and foreign reserves of about $45.0 billion and also a growing oil price of about $90/barrrel.

The Nigeria's Bonny Light Crude Oil Spot Price FOB which was $95.16 per barrel in January 2008 rose to $146.15 in July 2008 before declining to $76.24 per barrel by October 17 2008. Thus, within four months, it had lost 50% of its peak price.

Within this period, Yar'Adua was able to grow the external reserves to about $64 billion.

During the global financial crises, Nigeria capital markets, and banking industry were hit, coupled with the dwindling oil prices.The nation‘s foreign reserves decelerated from $64
billion in August 2008 to $47 billion as at March 2009, a 27% decrease, as the government had to resort to the ECA which is also part of the national reserves.

However according to records by CBN; Nigeria’s growth trajectory was not significantly impaired. The real Gross domestic Product (GDP) growth rate which averaged 6.29 percent between 2004 and 2007 declined marginally to 5.99 per cent in 2008 rising thereafter to 6.9 percent in 2009. This is often attributed to the impressive performance of the non-oil sector, particularly, agriculture and the continuous implementation of sound macroeconomic policies.
The external reserves was, however, still able to support at least 15 months of imports.

In conclusion, the foreign reserves played a major factor in the survival of the economy before the early dismiss of President Yar'Adua.

Goodluck Jonathan's takeover;

After President's Yar'Adua's Dismiss, President Jonathan took over May 05 2010. He met a foreign reserve of about $47. 7 billion and external debt of about $3.94 billion Dollars.

While Jonathan was unable grow the foreign reserves like his predecessor during the oil boom remains unclear.

However the immeidate past Finance minsiter in her response to Obosanjo's accusations about Jonathan squandering $55bn said below


Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/55bn-got-wrong-fg-replies-obasanjo/

In conclusion again, according to Okonjo here, The national reserves played a major role in defending the economy.

[b]THE REALITY TODAY


Buhari met $32 bn as external reserves and $63 billion esternal debt even though Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, promptly rose to the defence of Mr. Jonathan’s administration, saying of the $63 billion debt, the administration only incurred $21.8 billion. How the external debt rose to an alarming rate remains unclear. Buhari also met a subsidy debt of about N600bn. How subsidy claims rose from N320bn to a whooping 2 trillion Naira under his administration remains unclear till this day.

Buhari also took over with oil price selling below $50/barrel whch later dwindled to as low as $28/barrel.
The price of crude remains below $50/barrel today.

The current oil production rate have also dwindled with the renewed activities of some misguided, and deluded criminals in the name of Avengers in the ND region.

FINAL CONCLUSION

In conclusion and in the reality today, President Buhari have been trying his best to move the nation forward. Alot of leakages have been plugged, and a solid foundation is being layed down. It will be hypocritical and unfair for anyone not to expect the economy woes of today with the above analysis. With the indications above it is not out of place to say President Buhari inherited a virtually empty Treasury.

I urge every right thinking Nigerian, to criticise this government in good faith and not born our of tribal hatred or the hangover of the fact that the last government was booted out of office. The Economy woes experienced today should be expected by every right thinking Nigerian.

Even the immediate past Finance minister celebrated by some section of the country, warned severally about a very tough econmy.

Lets pass a vote of confidence in President Buhari by clicking Like!!!!



References

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/55bn-got-wrong-fg-replies-obasanjo/

http://ends.ng/umaru-musa-yaradua-the-legacy-of-a-president/

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/185523-i-met-huge-debts-virtually-empty-treasury-buhari.html

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/index.php/news-menu/news/58250-jonathan-left-32bn-for-buhari-ex-minister

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/archive2/tblnews_Detail.php?id=74667

http://www.cenbank.org/OUT/2012/PUBLICATIONS/REPORTS/STD/GLOBAL%20FINANCIAL%20MELTDOWN%20AND%20THE%20REFORMS%20IN%20THE%20NIGERIAN%20BANKING%20SECTOR.PDF

Op how much APC pay you?

I can see that you sold your vote.

Smh

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by gulfer: 12:25pm On May 25, 2016
FOLYKAZE:
I have argued on many occasions with my boss who is a fanatical PDP fan and Hausa hating tribal bigot that situation at the moment is not Buhari's fault but stem from absolute mismanagement and massive looting from past government which causing massive hit on our economic system. The wastage and spending spree by GEJ and his croonies make things worse. He is a visionless, clueless and hardened crook. He cared not about saving during the raining days. A small ant is wiser than he is.

But, do I need to continue arguing with a blind person? Make them con sack me wey another oppourtunity no dey?

I often put Government economics with that of private individual on parallel lines. A man who earned 147,000 as a monthly salary will have to take harsh decision when his salary falls to 27,000. Therefore, in order to save face and escape the hard condition, he has to save for the doom days. The standard of living when earning is 147k will be incomparable when earning falls to 27k. So one needs to preprae by saving for the doomdays.

Now on the Government part, Yaradua saved us from experiencing harsh condition in 2008-2009 by saving whooping 67b dollars. He took advantage of the oil boom and saved for the oil fall. His efforts sustained the nation for months running to a year period. This is a man with vision.

Jonathan came in with his voodoo economic team lead by World Bank puppet NOI. They had chances of saving when price of fuel rises to it peak but wasted their oppoutunity. They stole, wasted and shared among themselves our resources and reserve. When oil was selling below $60/barrel, Nigeria was borrowing to pay salaries. This is to show the damages caused on our reserve. We are exposed to harsh hit.

Buhari is a good manager. Even when Oil fell below $30/barrel, he didnt borrow to pay salaries like the fedora hatman did. The damages done to the economy is beyond imagination but he is doing more than enough taking his time and energy to keep us in balance. Nigeria would have been swept away if GEJ had won. I believe in Buhari with time will put Nigeria back on tracks
Your Oga and my Oga are in the same boat cool cool cool
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Nobody: 12:25pm On May 25, 2016
Ariani:


Obama was never a failure. He turned US economy around. He never hid behind Bush failures to hide his own incompetence. He was competent and delivered.

Buhari on the other hand, up till now has been an epitome of failure.

How many years did it take Obama to turn things around? How many years has Buhari spent? Digest that and stop boring us with ur Obama Crap. Besides, before it picked up, Obama kept reffering to the terrible bush legacy and rightfully so.

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Acidosis(m): 12:26pm On May 25, 2016
MetaHuman:
yes, because we don't know what he did with 12billions dollars meant for power.. Use your brain.

And no one is responsible for pest just like hiv and their pests diseases out there.

I'm sorry, I don't argue with zombies, I just watch them display their f00lery.

As regard your points, they've been duly noted, and flushed down the water closet (WC).
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by sammhi(m): 12:26pm On May 25, 2016
fiizznation:
We are not talking about leadership here rather we are talking about the ECONOMY. So don't even try to divert from the subject of discuss here. I won't like to waste my time by pulling out figures and numbers here just to make you see reasons with me. But I'm going to ask you this questions; How much did Jonathan left in our excess crude account before handling power to buhari? Why did the previous administration had to borrow money in the last two months of their administration if our economy was so buoyant? Jonathan sold oil for a whooping sum of $147 per barrel for about 5yrs, why wasnt the monies accounted for?

I'm trying as hard as possible not to bring OBJ's administration and what he left for late yar'adua into this discuss, because doing that will just expose your hypocrisy. Ok let me even use the obj-yar'adua tenure change.

Now how much was oil sold during OBJ's tenure?

How much was our debt when obj came on board?

How much did he leave in our external reserve before handling power to yar'adua?

And how much was our debt before handling to yar'adua?


If you have any sincerity in you, I bet your conscience will itch you. Jonathan messed everything up and handed buhari a broken economy, a fragile GDP, a bankrupt nation ravaged with corruption. And you in your little wonderfully decorated world of lies think is very OK if we don't call Jonathan's name. You know some of you are very funny
I read your first line.." we are not talking babiyt leadership but economy" huh? can you separate the two? they go hand in hand
I didn't waste my time reading your epistle .not with be a waste of time ...
but seriously, since the IPob guys want GEJ and the North and Yorubas want PmB ..why dont you allow the IPOB go so they do what they want..if they make GEJ their President..that becomes their business..so instead of these bak and forth arguments..let each one go his way and do what he wants..why force yourself when you are obviously not compatible...
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Xano(m): 12:27pm On May 25, 2016
koboko69:
The late President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua became Nigeria's president on May 29 2007. As at the time, he met an external debt of about $3,348.22 billion, and foreign reserves of about $45.0 billion and also a growing oil price of about $90/barrrel.

The Nigeria's Bonny Light Crude Oil Spot Price FOB which was $95.16 per barrel in January 2008 rose to $146.15 in July 2008 before declining to $76.24 per barrel by October 17 2008. Thus, within four months, it had lost 50% of its peak price.

Within this period, Yar'Adua was able to grow the external reserves to about $64 billion.

During the global financial crises, Nigeria capital markets, and banking industry were hit, coupled with the dwindling oil prices.The nation‘s foreign reserves decelerated from $64
billion in August 2008 to $47 billion as at March 2009, a 27% decrease, as the government had to resort to the ECA which is also part of the national reserves.

However according to records by CBN; Nigeria’s growth trajectory was not significantly impaired. The real Gross domestic Product (GDP) growth rate which averaged 6.29 percent between 2004 and 2007 declined marginally to 5.99 per cent in 2008 rising thereafter to 6.9 percent in 2009. This is often attributed to the impressive performance of the non-oil sector, particularly, agriculture and the continuous implementation of sound macroeconomic policies.
The external reserves was, however, still able to support at least 15 months of imports.

In conclusion, the foreign reserves played a major factor in the survival of the economy before the early dismiss of President Yar'Adua.

Goodluck Jonathan's takeover;

After President's Yar'Adua's Dismiss, President Jonathan took over May 05 2010. He met a foreign reserve of about $47. 7 billion and external debt of about $3.94 billion Dollars.

While Jonathan was unable grow the foreign reserves like his predecessor during the oil boom remains unclear.

However the immeidate past Finance minsiter in her response to Obosanjo's accusations about Jonathan squandering $55bn said below


Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/55bn-got-wrong-fg-replies-obasanjo/

In conclusion again, according to Okonjo here, The national reserves played a major role in defending the economy.

[b]THE REALITY TODAY


Buhari met $32 bn as external reserves and $63 billion esternal debt even though Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, promptly rose to the defence of Mr. Jonathan’s administration, saying of the $63 billion debt, the administration only incurred $21.8 billion. How the external debt rose to an alarming rate remains unclear. Buhari also met a subsidy debt of about N600bn. How subsidy claims rose from N320bn to a whooping 2 trillion Naira under his administration remains unclear till this day.

Buhari also took over with oil price selling below $50/barrel whch later dwindled to as low as $28/barrel.
The price of crude remains below $50/barrel today.

The current oil production rate have also dwindled with the renewed activities of some misguided, and deluded criminals in the name of Avengers in the ND region.

FINAL CONCLUSION

In conclusion and in the reality today, President Buhari have been trying his best to move the nation forward. Alot of leakages have been plugged, and a solid foundation is being layed down. It will be hypocritical and unfair for anyone not to expect the economy woes of today with the above analysis. With the indications above it is not out of place to say President Buhari inherited a virtually empty Treasury.

I urge every right thinking Nigerian, to criticise this government in good faith and not born our of tribal hatred or the hangover of the fact that the last government was booted out of office. The Economy woes experienced today should be expected by every right thinking Nigerian.

Even the immediate past Finance minister celebrated by some section of the country, warned severally about a very tough econmy.

Lets pass a vote of confidence in President Buhari by clicking Like!!!!



References

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/55bn-got-wrong-fg-replies-obasanjo/

http://ends.ng/umaru-musa-yaradua-the-legacy-of-a-president/

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/185523-i-met-huge-debts-virtually-empty-treasury-buhari.html

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/index.php/news-menu/news/58250-jonathan-left-32bn-for-buhari-ex-minister

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/archive2/tblnews_Detail.php?id=74667

http://www.cenbank.org/OUT/2012/PUBLICATIONS/REPORTS/STD/GLOBAL%20FINANCIAL%20MELTDOWN%20AND%20THE%20REFORMS%20IN%20THE%20NIGERIAN%20BANKING%20SECTOR.PDF

Interesting

I would appreciate a balanced report, but a lopsided one is being insincere.

You selected quotes from the middle and end of each quote without the "whole" quote.

Nice spin to suit your defence.

I leave you with these links:



According to her between 2007 and 2011, a debt of $17.3 billion was recorded while between 2012 and 2015, the debt incurred stood at $18.1 billion.
She explained that the leap in the debt profile between 2012 and 2015 was triggered off by the 53 per cent wage increase implemented by the late Umaru Yar'Adua administration in a fell swoop.
This, she said, skyrocketed government's borrowing from N524 billion to over N1 trillion in order to meet the salary increase, adding that the country's domestic debt increased by $18.1 billion mainly because of the 53 per cent increase in the pay of civil and public servants.
The minister stated that at the time of the salary increase, she was still with the World Bank, adding that she had written and warned on the consequences of acquiescing to such a huge increase.
Absolving the Jonathan administration of blame, the minister said the government had in deed taken a careful and meticulous approach to managing the nation's debt, noting that the present administration, for the first time in the nation's history, retired a domestic debt of N75 billion in 2013.
Commenting on the $63.7 billion debt stock, the minister said $9.7 billion or 15 per cent is external while $54 billion or 85 per cent represents domestic debt. She added that the states' share of the $9.7 billion external debt is 33 per cent while the states' share of the $54 billion is 20 per cent.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201505240201.html

http://www.channelstv.com/2013/06/07/clarifying-nigerias-debt-status-by-ngozi-okonjo-iweala/

Spin doctor, easy with it.
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by lloyds(m): 12:29pm On May 25, 2016
I can't imagine where our economy will be now if Jonathan was still ruling. He is the most careless and visionless president in Nigeria's History.
Our people are too sentimental and tribalistic in views.
The truth is hard to accept.

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Nobody: 12:29pm On May 25, 2016
Acidosis:


I'm sorry, I don't argue with zombies, I just watch them display their f00lery.

As regard your points, they've been duly noted, and flushed down the water closet (WC).
yeah ... Exact response you will expect from a Typical wailing ekpa after making embarrassing statements.


Nothing in the brain. Just wail cos others are wailing grin

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by kaboninc(m): 12:30pm On May 25, 2016
MetaHuman:
how is that a great counter exactly? Please show me... I really want to see it.

He didn't refute the fact that Jonathan left a very well battered country ... He only pointed out the abnormailties in figures which he was wrong cos he refused to bring fact as op did.. Op already, addressed the figure in his post self which on 100% you didn't read. Thanks to bigotry!

And you think its a great counter? Mehnnn Nigerian yoot oh! grin

Very lame point of view you have there!

The op brought in news reports whose meaning were in direct opposite with his article? Oh gosh!!! How do some of you learn? Don't you know how to think or are you that lazy to put the neurons in your brain to work?

The OP insinuated that GEJ's administration incurred an external debt profile of $63 billion (not the operative word: external) when the sources he quoted said the sum is the entire/total debt stock for the federation?

Did you not also read that the Federal Government's component was $21.8 billion?

I could go on and on but you really need to open a book or go to school to learn how to think!

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Acidosis(m): 12:33pm On May 25, 2016
MetaHuman:
yeah ... Exact response you will expect from a Typical wailing ekpa after making embarrassing statements.


Nothing in the brain. Just wail cos others are wailing grin

Lol, you expect me to argue your points over another "missing 20 zillion" pounds?

I thought the magistrate lawyer turn power "expatriate" said he will fix it in 6 months? If Jonathan ate and digested 1 zillion pounds for electricity, what has Fashola done with the resources at his disposal? Has he stolen the electricity budget as well?

I hope you won't blame the missing funds in your cerebral?

Why exactly is he finding it hard to do something?
Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Nobody: 12:34pm On May 25, 2016
wordychap:

The law mandates that proceeds of ECA be shared
That's y d Governors took d FG to court n insisted that ALL of it be shared: NOI n GEJ pleaded that only 1b dollars be shared but they refused.
At d end it was All shared.


Stop being deceived. NOI wanted it shared far before they went to court because she was already touching the savings behind the governors who are co owners. Soludo challenged her with the below, the witch is yet to respond.


I hereby challenge your attempt to blame others for not saving for the rainy day. It is not a virtue when you are quick to appropriate all the credit when things are going well, but shift the blame when they go wrong. You blame the state governors— who, according to you, have taken the Federal Government to the Supreme Court—not that a Supreme Court judgment forced your hands. For your information, the governors have never agreed to savings and always threatened court action even under Obasanjo. Why did we save under Obasanjo but not under Jonathan? Two keywords explain it: leadership and integrity. Governor Amaechi said the governors insisted on sharing the funds because they found out that you were illegally fiddling with the savings. So, as Nigerians still wonder, if billions of dollars are now ‘missing’ under your nose, why should governors trust you to keep their money? Do the states that have taken the federal government to the Supreme Court and refused to save also include the PDP governors—who are in the majority? If so, then it is fatal: even governors of your own party, PDP, do not trust you to keep their money! Furthermore, did the governors also stop the Federal Government from saving part of its share? If you ran a surplus budget at the Federal level, you would have had credibility to blame others or to say they did not listen to your advice. The key point is that since you were running huge deficits yourself, it was also in your own interest to share the ECA. You did not show leadership or credibility, full stop!

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by Nobody: 12:38pm On May 25, 2016
kaboninc:


Very lame point of view you have there!

The op brought in news reports whose meaning were in direct opposite with his article? Oh gosh!!! How do some of you learn? Don't you know how to think or are you that lazy to put the neurons in your brain to work?

The OP insinuated that GEJ's administration incurred an external debt profile of $63 billion (not the operative word: external) when the sources he quoted said the sum is the entire/total debt stock for the federation?

Did you not also read that the Federal Government's component was $21.8 billion?

I could go on and on but you really need to open a book or go to school to learn how to think!
go back and read again... This time very slowly..

The articles are based on madam okonjo iweala words not just some individual accounts.

You are just another typical example of nigerian youth who dont read and understand but want to talk like a smart person but at the end showing how foolish they really are.

Reading and understanding makes you smart, read op again and the links he posted instead of talking like a typical Nigerian youth. grin

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by girlfriendsnatc: 12:42pm On May 25, 2016
koboko69:
The late President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua became Nigeria's president on May 29 2007. As at the time, he met an external debt of about $3,348.22 billion, and foreign reserves of about $45.0 billion and also a growing oil price of about $90/barrrel.The Nigeria's Bonny Light Crude Oil Spot Price FOB which was $95.16 per barrel in January 2008 rose to $146.15 in July 2008 before declining to $76.24 per barrel by October 17 2008. Thus, within four months, it had lost 50% of its peak price.Within this period, Yar'Adua was able to grow the external reserves to about $64 billion.During the global financial crises, Nigeria capital markets, and banking industry were hit, coupled with the dwindling oil prices.The nation‘s foreign reserves decelerated from $64 billion in August 2008 to $47 billion as at March 2009, a 27% decrease, as the government had to resort to the ECA which is also part of the national reserves.However according to records by CBN; Nigeria’s growth trajectory was not significantly impaired. The real Gross domestic Product (GDP) growth rate which averaged 6.29 percent between 2004 and 2007 declined marginally to 5.99 per cent in 2008 rising thereafter to 6.9 percent in 2009. This is often attributed to the impressive performance of the non-oil sector, particularly, agriculture and the continuous implementation of sound macroeconomic policies.The external reserves was, however, still able to support at least 15 months of imports.[/b]In conclusion, the foreign reserves played a major factor in the survival of the economy before the early dismiss of President Yar'Adua.[b]Goodluck Jonathan's takeover;After President's Yar'Adua's Dismiss, President Jonathan took over May 05 2010. He met a foreign reserve of about $47. 7 billion and external debt of about $3.94 billion Dollars.While Jonathan was unable grow the foreign reserves like his predecessor during the oil boom remains unclear.However the immeidate past Finance minsiter in her response to Obosanjo's accusations about Jonathan squandering $55bn said below[b]Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/55bn-got-wrong-fg-replies-obasanjo/In conclusion again, according to Okonjo here, The national reserves played a major role in defending the economy.THE REALITY TODAY[/b]Buhari met $32 bn as external reserves and [b]$63 billion esternal debt even though Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, promptly rose to the defence of Mr. Jonathan’s administration, saying of the $63 billion debt, the administration only incurred $21.8 billion. How the external debt rose to an alarming rate remains unclear. Buhari also met a subsidy debt of about N600bn. How subsidy claims rose from N320bn to a whooping 2 trillion Naira under his administration remains unclear till this day.Buhari also took over with oil price selling below $50/barrel whch later dwindled to as low as $28/barrel. The price of crude remains below $50/barrel today.The current oil production rate have also dwindled with the renewed activities of some misguided, and deluded criminals in the name of Avengers in the ND region.FINAL CONCLUSIONIn conclusion and in the reality today, President Buhari have been trying his best to move the nation forward. Alot of leakages have been plugged, and a solid foundation is being layed down. It will be hypocritical and unfair for anyone not to expect the economy woes of today with the above analysis. With the indications above it is not out of place to say President Buhari inherited a virtually empty Treasury.I urge every right thinking Nigerian, to criticise this government in good faith and not born our of tribal hatred or the hangover of the fact that the last government was booted out of office. The Economy woes experienced today should be expected by every right thinking Nigerian.Even the immediate past Finance minister celebrated by some section of the country, warned severally about a very tough econmy.Lets pass a vote of confidence in President Buhari by clicking Like!!!!Referenceshttp://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/55bn-got-wrong-fg-replies-obasanjo/http://ends.ng/umaru-musa-yaradua-the-legacy-of-a-president/http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/185523-i-met-huge-debts-virtually-empty-treasury-buhari.htmlhttp://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/index.php/news-menu/news/58250-jonathan-left-32bn-for-buhari-ex-ministerhttp://www.thenationonlineng.net/archive2/tblnews_Detail.php?id=74667http://www.cenbank.org/OUT/2012/PUBLICATIONS/REPORTS/STD/GLOBAL%20FINANCIAL%20MELTDOWN%20AND%20THE%20REFORMS%20IN%20THE%20NIGERIAN%20BANKING%20SECTOR.PDF


You forgot to mention a critical issue: the economics of demand and supply of our crude in today's global oil market. There's unprecedented shale oil production in the USA, Iran is back from an oil ban, pricing of averagely $40/bbl is due to oil price crash, not appreciation, several oil-producing giants have lost some critical markets, hence a push into other markets resulting in a tremendously competitve global market...etc and these things have occurred simultaneously at a time when there is a glut in supply and low demand. Hence, simply put, the Buhari Administration has done a hell of a great job managing effectively the economic crisis of our time due to the fantastically corrupt, monumentally inept and radically destructive PDP governance of Nigeria for 16 years. If PDP were still in power, by now, there probably would be widespread 'apocalyptic famine' in the country, and who knows maybe it would have induced the cannibalistic proclivity of the ibos, especially in the Southeast to eat themselves just like they did during the past Civil War. No matter how the majority of ibos make machinations to sabotage the Nigerian government and Nigerians, and conspire to destroy the country in order to create a Cocaine Republic of Biafra, they will fail and lose, just like they always have, because they are just fundamentally inferior, despite the reckless arrogance that is a trademark of the most insecure, hateful, tribalistic tribe that is completely anti-Nigeria.

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Re: How The Economy fared Under Yaradua With Oil @ $40/barrel And The Reality Today by blackprowler: 12:43pm On May 25, 2016
In furtherance of my solid conviction that the problem with Nigeria is her people and their values, let me state that Jonathan was a weak man knowing little about leadership or government. He basically just let the Nigerians around him do what they want, hoping he himself will make money too. HENCE, they did what came naturally to them. Nigerians are rogues; money is their god. As it is with government officials today (who were "ordinary Nigerians" some time back), so is it in the phone repairers I'm with right now who are talking about phones 180 thousand naira and "ace" alcoholic beverage (I never heard of it) costing 100 thousand or so naira they they say Whizkid bought 10 to waste at a Malaysian nightclub. THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA IS THE NIGERIAN PEOPLE THEMSELVES, A FEW OF WHOM ARE IN GOVERNMENT FOR A BRIEF PERIOD IN THEIR LIVES

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