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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Jesusloveyou: 11:37am On May 25, 2016 |
OrlandoOwoh:that is the point, any throne that is subject to constitution can be dethrone, when the ruling house play politics before getting the throne. in benin kingdom nobody, not even presido can dethrone our king, even britain try it, they fail 3 Likes |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ojuu4u(m): 11:39am On May 25, 2016 |
[quote author=Xano post=45952513] Interesting Ooni Of Ife, Oba of Onitcha, among other kings and Obas, where they recognise by a sitting Governor or appointed We ar talkin abt law u ar talkin abt benin. I read dat state govt had witdrawn leta of apointment and planin to isue leta of installatn. Yet gov is d boss of oba of benin or any king. He can install/apoint and he can remove |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 11:41am On May 25, 2016 |
OrlandoOwoh: This is the core question and whatever happens to him is inconsequential. As governor it was within his power to suspend and he did suspend. Whatever calamity that happened to him wasn't when he was in office. The executive governor by the laws of our land can deposed any king within his state. Whether it will be a popular decision is inconsequential. He may even be impeached for whatever afterwards but it doesn't mean that such has no powers. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by OlaoChi: 11:41am On May 25, 2016 |
ccrazy: where in the government report was "selection by the Edo state government" stated? we all know there's no selection in Bini. but the state government must approve the oba designate |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by saintdennis(m): 11:42am On May 25, 2016 |
ojuu4u: Benin is the whole.the Benin kingdom is/was a country, and benin city is/was its capital. EDO refers to the people (Edo speaking people). Thanks to politics it became used as the name of the state. Now FYI large parts of ondo is belongs to benin, Delta, onitsha, worth noting is the ijaws also trace their ancestry to benin. Bro naija has been completely scattered by the brits, the military and politicians 2 Likes |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 11:43am On May 25, 2016 |
Hahahahahaha this guy got no chill 1 Share
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Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ojuu4u(m): 11:45am On May 25, 2016 |
[quote author=egunjeman2 post=45952746][/quote] kip living in a fool paradise. In benin ur king is apointed by d gov, givin staff of ofice by d gov, his salaries and allowance pay by state govt and can be removed by the gov |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by OlaoChi: 11:46am On May 25, 2016 |
Jesusloveyou: waoh! Edo youths are really ignorant The British dethroned Ovonramwen 2 Likes |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 11:46am On May 25, 2016 |
2n2k: Apt. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by OBAnkemi: 11:47am On May 25, 2016 |
phemmyutd: Truly you are the ignorant one. For most traditional institutions in Nigeria the King Makers do the selection, and then the state govt merely rubber stamps the candidate of the King Makers. In some states, the King makers present a list of 3 candidates vying for the throne to the state govt, which den picks a preferable one. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Xano(m): 11:47am On May 25, 2016 |
ojuu4u: And you think such will withstand the 'pressures' that would arise. You are funny. If you are in Benin (doubt you were born or reside there), try and speak such in their bars(public); for example, at Ring road. Some posts in this forum can make someone laugh, while pity the individual who wrote such at the same time. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 11:49am On May 25, 2016 |
OrlandoOwoh:If you call stopping federal government payment than you are right. No body can ask the oba to leave his throne. Is not like the sultan of sokoto or emir of kano that can be disposed. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Jesusloveyou: 11:49am On May 25, 2016 |
OrlandoOwoh:a man can insult God, but that wil not reduce God, it wil only reduce the man, the same man that insult oba by suspending him also beg for forgiveness for the insult 1 Like |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by OlaoChi: 11:49am On May 25, 2016 |
oseo1: and in yorubaland the government doesn't appoint kings either. they just like Edo state "approve and confirm" the Oba designate stop all this watery sentiments please I never knew Edo people were this ignorant |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 11:50am On May 25, 2016 |
Y'all can blab all you want. The governor has no right to and will never appoint the Oba of Benin. Best he can do is to fulfill all "constitutional righteousness". Not like he can disapprove anything anyway. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Bloggz74(m): 11:53am On May 25, 2016 |
possibilita: My brother God bless u. V always opined that these our brothers that were born in lagos,grew in lagos,schooled in lagos,manipulated there NYSC to lagos and finaly work and marry in lagos know nothing about Nigeria. They sit in the comfort of there sitting room to tell u an ijaw man,Bini,urhobo,efik,idoma and ibo are all Ibo men. They know nothing about nigeria. To them we only three tribes and they r so uninformed about nigeria and the people.Let them keep dreaming. They thought its commisioner that a governor can "appoint" haaaaa God help them |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ogmask: 11:53am On May 25, 2016 |
neocortex: Your ignorance is appalling. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 11:57am On May 25, 2016 |
OlaoChi:I might be wrong with this though but there were rumours that the Oba of Lagos was appointed by Tinubu. Apart from that, the Ooni of Ife also had some political undertone to it. Yoruba kings aren't hereditary, hence the political undertone. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by naptu2: 12:06pm On May 25, 2016 |
The british invaded Benin in 1897, deposed the oba and exiled him to Calabar. The oba's son, Prince Aiguobasinwin Ovonramwen moved to his aunt's house and began farming in order to earn a living. This he did until the british consul eventually called him back to Benin. In the meantime, the british consul ruled Benin in conjunction with Chief Agho Ogbedeoyo (the Obaseki of Benin). Oba Ovonramwen died in 1914 and a succession crisis between Chief Agho Ogbedeoyo (who had acted as the oba when Oba Ovonramwen was deposed by the british) and Prince Aiguobasinwin Ovonramwen ensued. It seemed that Chief Ogbedeoyo would be crowned as the new oba, but strong evidence by some Benin chiefs eventually made the british consul rule in favour of Prince Aiguibasinwin. The british consul thus approved the appointment of Prince Aiguobasinwin Ovonramwen as the new Oba of Benin (Oba Eweka II) and that was how the practice of the consul (or governor) approving the appointment of the Oba began. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by BuddhaPalm(m): 12:12pm On May 25, 2016 |
shala01: So does the British Monarchy... It'd just a matter of respect, but Government na oga patapata. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by neocortex: 12:20pm On May 25, 2016 |
ogmask: Is that all you can type Mr. "knowledge" ? I am highly disappointed. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ojuu4u(m): 12:21pm On May 25, 2016 |
Xano: Wat wl they do. Am telin fact u ar goshing out fiction. If oba is removed wat wil they do. Pls tel me. Dasuki former sultan of sokoto was removed and am very sure u knw dat sultan is more powerful and influential than oba of benin. U people sud just go and sit down. Nigeria is biger than individua or kingdom |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by oseo1(m): 12:21pm On May 25, 2016 |
naptu2: That was slightly different in that Ovonramwen was overthrown by an act of war, and there were many casualties on both sides. After he was removed Benin then became part of the British empire so they chose the king. Since then it has returned to normal. And the first son of the Oba ascends after his fathers death. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by MONITZ: 12:24pm On May 25, 2016 |
phemmyutd:Nope I don't think what u said is true because they practise primogeniture, if it were a case where they have ruling houses like we saw in Ife then I think the governor can influence the choice of who becomes the king,i. am not saying the governor doesn't wield absolute power over certain things bt I surely think the choice of who becomes the next One is not within his jurisdiction.I still stand to be corrected though. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ogmask: 12:27pm On May 25, 2016 |
ojuu4u: You obviously do not understand what the constitution says. The constitution does not give the govt the authority to appoint a traditional ruler my friend. It says recognise. Can't you get it. Even in climes where the king is selected by the king makers the govt cannot meddle constitutionally. Stop twisting facts. In the case of the binis it's even worse. No room to interfare. The king is born and not made. You can ask the family members and friends of the late onyeregbulem (former milad Edo state) how it went when he challenged the Oba's authority/ supremacy. The point here is the gov can do whatever he likes under the constitution but it has no effect whatsoever on the sacredness of that throne. The binis can take Carr of their Oba if your augument, like others here, is based on salaries and allowances. |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ojuu4u(m): 12:31pm On May 25, 2016 |
Xano: u ar just talkin as if benin is biga than nigeria or as if u want to instal God and nt human being like u. Sultan of sokoto is more powerful, influetial and respected than oba of benin. D u knw dasuki a foma sultan was removed and ntin hapnd til today. Pls stop idolisin human being like u |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ojuu4u(m): 12:34pm On May 25, 2016 |
ogmask:oga in edo state, who is numb one citizen and what is d function |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by ojuu4u(m): 12:39pm On May 25, 2016 |
Jesusloveyou: let ur king steal money he wl be sent to jail and let that ur king kill human being publicly he shal be ' executed' then you wl knw that he is ORDINARY human being and not gods as u belif |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by naptu2: 12:43pm On May 25, 2016 |
oseo1: You've stated the point of convergence in your post. You wrote, "After he was removed Benin then became part of the British empire so they chose the king." Similarly, Benin is now part of Nigeria and is governed according to Nigerian laws. Think about it this way, if (God fobid) there is a military coup today and the Federal Military Government feels that it is unhappy with the crown prince of Benin and it doesn't want him to be crowned Oba, what do you think will happen? It's the same thing that happened with Oba Ovonramwen. The military government will exile the crown prince and appoint someone else to rule in his place (just like the british got Obaseki to rule in the oba's place). They will then wait until the crown prince dies and see if his son is acceptable to them before approving his coronation. Remember, the people of Sokoto rioted when Dasuki was appointed as the Sultan, but the government brought in soldiers and mobile police. The people wanted Sultan Muhammadu Siddiki II's son to be appointed as the sultan. Instead the government appointed Dasuki (remember that the sultan was the most powerful traditional leader in Nigeria at this time). When Abacha became head of state, he removed Dasuki (through the governor) and appointed the late sultan's son (Mohammed Macido) as sultan. The truth is that the government can appoint who it wants (as long as it is in tandem with the law) and nothing will happen. The only concern is that democratically elected governors might be afraid to lose elections. 1 Like |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Nobody: 12:45pm On May 25, 2016 |
mrvitalis:but u nd ur likes peddle lies that it was tinubu nd co that appointed ooni of ife |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by Jesusloveyou: 12:49pm On May 25, 2016 |
OlaoChi:and they install ur father as king, that is why i said, they tried but could not suceed to appoint someone else as king 1 Like |
Re: Oshiomhole Can Never Appoint The Oba Of Benin, Edo Youths Scream Out!!! by darqly(m): 12:51pm On May 25, 2016 |
The press release explicitly states that the governor APPROVED the appointment, not that the governor APPOINTED the Oba of Benin. They haven't told us who did the APPOINTING, just that it was approved! So much ado about nothing really, just a lot of angry people EVERYWHERE these days |
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