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Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by EDOYORUBA: 9:52pm On Aug 30, 2009 |
What does it matter if he was HAUSA, FULANI, YORUBA OR IGBO. This is the very problem of nigeria. "TRIBALISM". Who cares where is from as long as he did the job well. doesnt matter where our next president will be from?, ijaw, bini, odoma, nupe, efik, ibibio.or even from the sun, etc all that matter is whoever it is does the job well. regardless of their tribe. SIMPLE. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by AloyEmeka6: 10:07pm On Aug 30, 2009 |
tpia@:Is the English an ethnic group or tribe?. How many ethnic groups are in England?. The Romans were the first settlers in London and so many big cities in Europe like Paris so, technically, they own London and Paris, if I should buy your one way reasoning. Londoners should stand at still for Romans because they own the city. So, who owns NY, Bremen, Stuttgart? |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by tpia5: 10:25pm On Aug 30, 2009 |
Aloy~Emeka: so because Nigerians and other foreigners have overrun all these places you mention, the owners of the place no longer have a say? and because the Romans made London their base, now means the people they met in Britain no longer have a say there? Should Italy occupy London then? It was traditionally thought that Londinium started as a Roman fort to defend the crossing, and later developed into a civilian settlement. However, archaeological excavation (undertaken by the Department of Urban Archaeology of the Museum of London, now called MOLAS) since the 1970s has failed to unearth any convincing traces of military occupation on the site, so many archeologists now believe that Londinium was the product of private enterprise. Its site on a busy river-crossing made it a perfect place for traders from across the Roman Empire to set up business. If you dont know who the English are then good luck to you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by AloyEmeka6: 10:51pm On Aug 30, 2009 |
I am tired of running around in circles with a certified dunce. English people are natives of England just like Nigerians are natives of Nigeria. English is neither a tribe nor an ethnic group. Which tribes and ethnic groups make up the english just like the anglos, saxons etc. Romans settled in London first and I asked a question whether the Romans should be given all accolade in London only for you to retort with the same question I asked you. If Ilorin locals are fighting for city ownership supremacy based on who emigrated to Ilorin first, how is it any different from every other city in the world?. Who should we give the title to the city of NY?. City ownership supremacy is one plague among Nigerians I do not understand. What does it mean and what does it solve assuming Fulanis raise their hands and ask Yorubas to take their ilorin. Yorubas by population outnumber fulanis in Ilorin yet there is a cold war about ownership. Ownership of what?. Who owns Douala,Abuja, Lagos, PH etc and how do you own a place if the title to the property does not belong to you? . Jesus Christ. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by NegroNtns(m): 10:52pm On Aug 30, 2009 |
tpia, Lmao. . .Aloy winning the leadership would make you First Lady of Biafra. You need to watch how you talk to your inlaws from now on. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by tpia5: 10:58pm On Aug 30, 2009 |
Aloy~Emeka: the only person you're fooling here is yourself. If you want to derail the thread because you say you dont know what it means to "own" a city, then be my guest. Play on semantics till you wear yourself out. FYI owning a city doesnt have to mean the city in question was bought with cash, ok? Otherwise we might as well say Europe owns 90% of Africa back from precolonial times. Many of them still have the titles, leases, and thumbprints which legally give them African land. So who has the title of London, Lagos, Onitsha, Owerri, Benin, Oturkpo, Enugu and Port Harcourt? You want to give us the lowdown? 1 Like |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by NegroNtns(m): 11:00pm On Aug 30, 2009 |
How do you expect to achieve success after divorce when the mindset of a typical Nigerian is 'us against them'?. Assuming you have Republic of Oduduwa today, don't you know there will be replications according to tribes within the same ethnic group?. Ife will not agree for modakeke to rule over them; Ijebu will swear for Egba; Akoko will swear for whomever they have Eshan, same in Biafra and Arewa republic. The division continues and until we dissociate our mindset from that ideology and accept freedom in its entirety, I am afraid we may be jumping from frying pan to fire. Our forefathers had a formula for integrating diverse tongues under one common vision and cohesive loyalty. Going separate ways would awaken us to our vulnerabilities and in the need to self preserve we would be forced to seek solutions in tried and effective ways of resolving political grievances. 2 Likes |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by otokx(m): 4:03am On Aug 31, 2009 |
I heard he was a dead man |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by AloyEmeka6: 5:11am On Aug 31, 2009 |
tpia@: I am sure the cavity in your head is filled with mutton instead of brain matter. How and when did Europeans BUY 90% of Africa?. I said, cities are never owned and whomever buys deeds to any property has a stake in the city even more than a non lien holder. City is not and can never be a private property. Get it in your tribalist head. It's only in backward Africa that people talk about owning cities. So who has the title of London, Lagos, Onitsha, Owerri, Benin, Oturkpo, Enugu and Port Harcourt? You want to give us the lowdown?Was it not me who asked you this question before you started spraying saliva everywhere?. Why are you asking me the same question I asked you when I've made it clear from the onset that no individual, race or ethnic group owns a city. You are yet to tell me the tribe in England that owns the city of London and the tribe that owns the city of Manchester. Also extend it to the ownership of Paris. Like you said before, the [b]tribe [/b]known as English owns London. You need to ask your social studies teacher for a money back guarantee next time. Lmao. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by AloyEmeka6: 5:17am On Aug 31, 2009 |
Negro_Ntns:Keep dreaming for El Dorado. It's not gonna happen as long as Nigerians operate in their present mindset. I don't care if the country is replicated in gazillion nations by family names. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by NegroNtns(m): 5:33am On Aug 31, 2009 |
Keep dreaming for El Dorado. It's not gonna happen as long as Nigerians operate in their present mindset. I don't care if the country is replicated in gazillion nations by family names. So then you admit its not gonna be resolved ether way, whether we stay together or separate. Staying together results in INTER tribal aggressions. Go separet ways results in INTRA tribal aggressions. I think I'd take the second option. I stand a better chance resolving problems with people with whom I share 50% philosophical aspirations than I do with people with whom my aspirations are 10% or worse. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by tpia5: 6:39am On Aug 31, 2009 |
Aloy~Emeka: Try to make your point without resorting to insults, since you're not the only one who knows how to insult people. Be my guest if you want to go that route with me. You may have your personal beef with the British who refused you a visa, but that's your problem, not my own. So start a new thread to debate if the English are a tribe or not. That one no concern me and neither does it have anything to do with this topic. And just because countries have opened their borders to Nigerian legals and illegals alike, including drug couriers, is no reason for you to pretend your village is El Dorado while all others are "owned" by immigrants. Do you consider yourself smart? You tend to give the opposite impression. ie [b]an idiot. 1 Like |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by Jarus(m): 11:03am On Aug 31, 2009 |
becoomrich:Best and most sensible analysis I have seen from Becomrich on NL. And the grammar was less fatal. Good one, BCR. 1 Like |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by Bialegend(m): 11:20am On Aug 31, 2009 |
becoomrich:Bia Becomerich, did you write this or did someone else stole your handle and wrote this for you? Very well articulated and devoid of bad spellings and grammar. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by Abagworo(m): 11:41am On Aug 31, 2009 |
Issue of city ownership.in deep igboland,city ownership is never an issue.it is only land that is the issue.it sounds strange saying you own a city.there are only 2 cities that strangely have claims of ownership-aba & onitsha that happen to be the two most populated cities.i think the issue of city ownership might be an inferiority complex resulting from inability to compete with settlers.looking at the two cities as case study, non-indigenes own more than 80 percent of landed properties. 1 Like |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by AloyEmeka6: 11:07pm On Sep 03, 2009 |
Even Aba and Onitsha are not owned. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by AndreUweh(m): 2:30pm On Oct 03, 2009 |
I do agree with Aloy-Emeka. It should not matter who owns a town o rcity but what matters is the stake owned in the city. With this case, it should not matter if Agbor is Igbo or Bini; Port Harcourt is Igbo or Okrika; Ilorin is Yoruba or Fulani etc. If we view this cities from this perspective, there should not be ethnic tensions in multi-ethnic cities in Nigeria. |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by AfroCynic: 4:14pm On Oct 03, 2009 |
The Fulani were invaders into Ilorin, Most of the Yoruba who claim to be Fulani do so for political expediency, To be of the same religion does not equal being from the same ethnic group. Trust me, as soon as trouble starts, everyone will know where his father's compound is, 1 Like |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by OAM4J: 4:25am On Oct 05, 2009 |
AfroCynic: I agree with you 100%. When wahala burst who no know go know. Wait until wahala burst, we go know who be landlord and who be tenant. Make wahala sele and make Tunde come tell Shehu say him be Fulani or make Emeka tell Tell Akpan say him be Calabar because them get land for those places, we go see if the original owner no go point your baba house for you. Trust me even 'no man's land' for Kano get owner. If you ask me who owns a city, I will say wait until there is a riot or war, then check those who are leaving and those who are staying, then you will know who the landlords are and who the Tenants are. Somebody please help me interpret this Yoruba adage "Oko o ki nje ti baba ati omo ki o ma ni ala" 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by Nobody: 4:29am On Oct 05, 2009 |
it doesnt matter @ topic. Fulani presence in Nigeria preceeded their Ilorin conquest. They'd still be in Nigeria even without it. Many other tribes arrived after them sef, in different parts of the country. Some Yorubas claim Fulani, some Fulanis claim Yoruba. na all of them sabi. The real problem was the out of control slave trade during those times. 1 Like |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by udezue(m): 5:07am On Oct 05, 2009 |
OAM4J: Real talk |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by AfroCynic: 11:44am On Oct 05, 2009 |
OAM4J: I have it on good authority that this means; 'The farm that belongs to both the father and son will certainly be demarcated'. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by ikeyman00(m): 12:01pm On Oct 05, 2009 |
aloy never know u are so brainless now question who owns Moscow, Beijing believe me u are a slowpoke 2 Likes |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by DapoBear(m): 6:09am On Nov 09, 2010 |
Great article. Open your eyes well well, Kwara. Do not let yourselves be deceived. Yoruba Muslims need to step to the plate and cause change. 1 Like |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by dreaMaker: 10:34am On Nov 09, 2010 |
who gives a Bleep if idiagbon was hebrew or greek? |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by oludashmi(f): 12:07pm On Nov 09, 2010 |
@becomerich, you are very right in your post above OAM4J: True. To interprete the boldened . . .Even if a land is owned by a father and son, there is a boundary. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tunde Idiagbon: Fulani Man Or Yoruba Man ? by Nobody: 6:32am On Aug 03, 2018 |
Nigeria shall be great. We are all Nigerians. |
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