tpia@:

so the English no longer own London?

because a battalion of foreigners live there?

Aloy~Emeka:

Is the English an ethnic group or tribe?. How many ethnic groups are in England?. The Romans were the first settlers in London and so many big cities in Europe like Paris so, technically, they own London and Paris, if I should buy your one way reasoning. Londoners should stand at still for Romans because they own the city.

So, who owns NY, Bremen, Stuttgart?

It was traditionally thought that Londinium started as a Roman fort to defend the crossing, and later developed into a civilian settlement. However, archaeological excavation (undertaken by the Department of Urban Archaeology of the Museum of London, now called MOLAS) since the 1970s has failed to unearth any convincing traces of military occupation on the site, so many archeologists now believe that Londinium was the product of private enterprise. Its site on a busy river-crossing made it a perfect place for traders from across the Roman Empire to set up business.

The name Londinium is thought to be pre-Roman (and possibly pre-Celtic) in origin, although there has been no consensus on what it means. It was common practice for Romans to adopt native names for new settlements. A common theory is that it derives from a hypothetical Celtic placename, Londinion[3] which was probably derived from the personal name Londinos, from the word lond, meaning 'wild'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_London

Aloy~Emeka:

I am tired of running around in circles with a certified dunce. English people are natives of England just like Nigerians are natives of Nigeria. English is neither a tribe nor an ethnic group. Which tribes and ethnic groups make up the english just like the anglos, saxons etc. Romans settled in London first and I asked a question whether the Romans should be given all accolade in London only for you to retort with the same question I asked you. If Ilorin locals are fighting for city ownership supremacy based on who emigrated to Ilorin first, how is it any different from every other city in the world?. Who should we give the title to the city of NY?.

City ownership supremacy is one plague among Nigerians I do not understand. What does it mean and what does it solve assuming Fulanis raise their hands and ask Yorubas to take their ilorin. Yorubas by population outnumber fulanis in Ilorin yet there is a cold war about ownership.

Ownership of what?. Who owns Douala,Abuja,  Lagos, PH etc and how do you own a place if the title to the property does not belong to you? . Jesus Christ.

How do you expect to achieve success after divorce when the mindset of a typical Nigerian is 'us against them'?. Assuming you have Republic of Oduduwa today, don't you know there will be replications according to tribes within the same ethnic group?. Ife will not agree for modakeke to rule over them; Ijebu will swear for Egba; Akoko will swear for whomever they have Eshan, same in Biafra and Arewa republic. The division continues and until we dissociate our mindset from that  ideology and accept freedom in its entirety, I am afraid we may be jumping from frying pan to fire.

tpia@:



FYI owning a city doesnt have to mean the city in question was bought with cash, ok? Otherwise we might as well say Europe owns 90% of Africa back from precolonial times. Many of them still have the titles, leases, and thumbprints which legally give them African land.

So who has the title of London, Lagos, Onitsha, Owerri, Benin, Oturkpo, Enugu and Port Harcourt? You want to give us the lowdown?

Negro_Ntns:

Our forefathers had a formula for integrating diverse tongues under one common vision and cohesive loyalty.  Going separate ways would awaken us to our vulnerabilities and in the need to self preserve we would be forced to seek solutions in tried and effective ways of resolving political grievances.  

Keep dreaming for El Dorado. It's not gonna happen as long as Nigerians operate in their present mindset. I don't care if the country is replicated in gazillion nations by family names.

Aloy~Emeka:

I am sure the cavity in your head is filled with mutton instead of brain matter. How and when did Europeans BUY 90% of Africa?. I said, cities are never owned and whomever buys deeds to any property has a stake in the city even more than a non lien holder. City is not and can never be  a private property. Get it in your tribalist head. It's only in backward Africa that people talk about owning cities.
Was it not me who asked you this question before you started spraying saliva everywhere?. Why are you asking me the same question I asked you when I've made it clear from the onset that no individual, race or ethnic group owns a city. You are yet to tell me the tribe in England that owns the city of London and the tribe that owns the city of Manchester. Also extend it to the ownership of Paris.

Like you said before, the tribe [/b]known as  English owns London. You need to ask your social studies teacher for a money back guarantee next time. Lmao.

becoomrich:

majority of ilorin people are yorubas, they just bear muslim names. It is just the emir that trace his root to fulani.

Now who owns kano? Hausa or fulani. the answer is hausa. Who is the emir of kano, is he fulani or hausa. Answer he is fulani. who is the majority in kano? fulani or hausa? answer, hausa

Emir is a religion title, not a tradition one. It has root in Religion. you need to read about the hausa. only Murtala was hausa. Buhari is fulani. yar adua is fulani, shagari is fulani. The fulani are not up to 10 million people in nigeria. Hausa are the majority in the north. they claim, which is questionable now with satellite pictures. fulani may be the majority. not the hausas. if you could tell me the area which the fulani are, i would tell you the answer.

Hausa language is very different from fulani. Very very very very different. Hausa most of the time do not understand fulani language, which they call Fulfulde. They do not speak fulani , they speak Fulfulde. Look i tried learning Fulfulde before. it was difficult to learn. There are two different people.

Fulanis are normadic people. so they can be found every where only the ocean stop the fulani man. immigration officer does not affect the fulani man even while the population of fulani is so small in nigeria, they position themself in all area. Those people in power are mostly fulani people. They make sure not to allow others in power in the north. that why jang and yar adua have problem.

The hausa man normally calls the fulani man a bad name boro, boro. This is not something good to call a person. Fulani people dont like been called that, do not call them that, they can kill you for that. it really mean like bush man or uneducated. Since the hausa live in town and the fulani dont , they move around. but the fulani minority are the ones in power in the north over the majority hausa. But i am not sure who is really majority between the two. because yola is more fulani than hausa. the fulani own yola in adamawa state. Hausa majority may not be true, since satellite picture shows bauchi an empty place. so I am not sure if the hausa can really claim majority over the fulani any more.

Turai yar adua looks like 100% fulani woman, light skin. most fulani woman are. The fulani women are very beautiful. While I live in mayo belwa which was mostly fulani , the fulani women tend to please her husband, old fashion way. their life is centre around thier husband. fulani women are simple to deal with.

Sokoto is a fulani state, kebbi state is mostly fulani, kano state is mostly hausa, jigawa state is mostly hausa, bauchi , gombe, state is mostly hausa. while yola is fulani, not hausa. the upper part of katsina state is mostly fulani

The politics in the north is so deadly that is why murtala did not remain in power for too long. He may have been seen as a threat to the fulani domination.

One of the ways to know a fulani man is the nose and most fulani men are tall and skinny

becoomrich:

majority of ilorin people are yorubas, they just bear muslim names. It is just the emir that trace his root to fulani.

Now who owns kano? Hausa or fulani. the answer is hausa. Who is the emir of kano, is he fulani or hausa. Answer he is fulani. who is the majority in kano? fulani or hausa? answer, hausa

Emir is a religion title, not a tradition one. It has root in Religion. you need to read about the hausa. only Murtala was hausa. Buhari is fulani. yar adua is fulani, shagari is fulani. The fulani are not up to 10 million people in nigeria. Hausa are the majority in the north. they claim, which is questionable now with satellite pictures. fulani may be the majority. not the hausas. if you could tell me the area which the fulani are, i would tell you the answer.

Hausa language is very different from fulani. Very very very very different. Hausa most of the time do not understand fulani language, which they call Fulfulde. They do not speak fulani , they speak Fulfulde. Look i tried learning Fulfulde before. it was difficult to learn. There are two different people.

Fulanis are normadic people. so they can be found every where only the ocean stop the fulani man. immigration officer does not affect the fulani man even while the population of fulani is so small in nigeria, they position themself in all area. Those people in power are mostly fulani people. They make sure not to allow others in power in the north. that why jang and yar adua have problem.

The hausa man normally calls the fulani man a bad name boro, boro. This is not something good to call a person. Fulani people dont like been called that, do not call them that, they can kill you for that. it really mean like bush man or uneducated. Since the hausa live in town and the fulani dont , they move around. but the fulani minority are the ones in power in the north over the majority hausa. But i am not sure who is really majority between the two. because yola is more fulani than hausa. the fulani own yola in adamawa state. Hausa majority may not be true, since satellite picture shows bauchi an empty place. so I am not sure if the hausa can really claim majority over the fulani any more.

Turai yar adua looks like 100% fulani woman, light skin. most fulani woman are. The fulani women are very beautiful. While I live in mayo belwa which was mostly fulani , the fulani women tend to please her husband, old fashion way. their life is centre around thier husband. fulani women are simple to deal with.

Sokoto is a fulani state, kebbi state is mostly fulani, kano state is mostly hausa, jigawa state is mostly hausa, bauchi , gombe, state is mostly hausa. while yola is fulani, not hausa. the upper part of katsina state is mostly fulani

The politics in the north is so deadly that is why murtala did not remain in power for too long. He may have been seen as a threat to the fulani domination.

One of the ways to know a fulani man is the nose and most fulani men are tall and skinny

AfroCynic:

The Fulani were invaders into Ilorin, Most of the Yoruba who claim to be Fulani do so for political expediency, To be of the same religion does not equal being from the same ethnic group. Trust me, as soon as trouble starts, everyone will know where his father's compound is,

OAM4J:

I agree with you 100%.

When wahala burst who no know go know. Wait until wahala burst, we go know who be landlord and who be tenant. Make wahala sele and make Tunde come tell Shehu say him be Fulani or make Emeka tell Tell Akpan say him be Calabar because them get land for those places, we go see if the original owner no go point your baba house for you. Trust me even 'no man's land' for Kano get owner.

If you ask me who owns a city, I will say wait until there is a riot or war, then check those who are leaving and those who are staying, then you will know who the landlords are and who the Tenants are. Somebody please help me interpret this Yoruba adage "Oko o ki nje ti baba ati omo ki o ma ni ala"

OAM4J:

I agree with you 100%.

When wahala burst who no know go know. Wait until wahala burst, we go know who be landlord and who be tenant. Make wahala sele and make Tunde come tell Shehu say him be Fulani or make Emeka tell Tell Akpan say him be Calabar because them get land for those places, we go see if the original owner no go point your baba house for you. Trust me even 'no man's land' for Kano get owner.

If you ask me who owns a city, I will say wait until there is a riot or war, then check those who are leaving and those who are staying, then you will know who the landlords are and who the Tenants are. Somebody please help me interpret this Yoruba adage[b]"Oko o ki nje ti baba ati omo ki o ma ni ala"[/b]

OAM4J:

I agree with you 100%.

When wahala burst who no know go know. Wait until wahala burst, we go know who be landlord and who be tenant. Make wahala sele and make Tunde come tell Shehu say him be Fulani or make Emeka tell Tell Akpan say him be Calabar because them get land for those places, we go see if the original owner no go point your baba house for you. Trust me even 'no man's land' for Kano get owner.

If you ask me who owns a city, I will say wait until there is a riot or war, then check those who are leaving and those who are staying, then you will know who the landlords are and who the Tenants are. Somebody please help me interpret this Yoruba adage "Oko o ki nje ti baba ati omo ki o ma ni ala"