Seun:
As a muslim, would you prefer to live in an Islamic country governed by Islamic laws and principles, rather than a secular country which defends the rights of women, muslims, christians, atheists, lesbians, gays, scantily clad babes, drinkers, and all minorities, and treats them equally?

If your answer is 'yes,' what are some of the ways in which you feel that an Islamic country would be better for your life than a secular country?

usbcable:


Salam alaykum

we no dey see your break light again for our thread, hope no issues?

ShiaMuslim:


You actually think it is only Muslims (in particular Wahhabis) who are destroying Muslim countries without America's complicity? There's no Muslim country on fire that American hand or the hand of its puppets was not used to kindle the fire. American meddling is setting the Middle East on fire. In every Muslim country they try to impose their rules or have imposed their rules. Otherwise peace will not reign. You name them.

In 1953, the CIA engineered a coup in Iran that overthrew a democratically elected government. Since the Islamic Revolution led by Ayatollah Khomeini, there is one conspiracy after another to topple the Islamic regime or to make it restless. Name any country and you'd find American hand.

greetings:
Personally, I used to think it's the best thing for someone to live in a Muslim country. As I grew older I realised, the most important thing is first security of life and property, which is what Islam preaches.

So, as long as this basic condition is met, go for it!

Western countries; this is what they have. They might not believe in God but then protection of life and property is so important to them. You would think they did.

My opinion.

ShiaMuslim:


You actually think it is only Muslims (in particular Wahhabis) who are destroying Muslim countries without America's complicity? There's no Muslim country on fire that American hand or the hand of its puppets was not used to kindle the fire. American meddling is setting the Middle East on fire. In every Muslim country they try to impose their rules or have imposed their rules. Otherwise peace will not reign. You name them.

In 1953, the CIA engineered a coup in Iran that overthrew a democratically elected government. Since the Islamic Revolution led by Ayatollah Khomeini, there is one conspiracy after another to topple the Islamic regime or to make it restless. Name any country and you'd find American hand.

Dhelake:
I am a muslim but I don't think I can live in any of the Islamic countries. It will be bad for anyone's sanity.

Lagusta:


My dear brother lexiconkabir......



This is from Wikipedia, who is saying facts now

You know we once had a god discussion in the last thread oga Seun opened, don't mess it up by abusing me anyhow.....

Now, go and find out yourself whether Saudi muftis are hypocritical or not......

RABIUSHILE04:

U did well my sister, it is ur opinion. But does that mean these muslim countries like saudi arabia and d likes don't protect life and property?! America dey protect life and property for the USA but dey cause damage, sending nukes, missiles in the name of fighting terrorists created by them in countries like Iraq, Iran, Syria, infact whole of Sham.?!

RABIUSHILE04:


Wikipedia?! Really?! Na person like u dey put dem thr o...na like market o..ppl are online to sell product.. Infacet, if u wanna be stupid, just type on wiki; I. Lagusta want to be stupid, u will be suprised at options u see?! Be factual bro!

Lagusta:
@lexiconkabir....

I believe women should have places in government, as special advisers or councillors.... because people have always been seeking council of the mothers of believers (the prophet's wives).... and if there was anything wrong with that,the companions would have frowned at it.....

Logic would even tell us that the best person to give counsel to a woman is surely another woman, you know women like themselves nah.....

And yep, since you want proof about women's rights in Saudi, hold on please. . ..

RABIUSHILE04:


Did u know, from amongst the female sahabas, there were teachers, businesswomen, fighters, nurses, lawyers even!?, they were/are better than these naked ones of this age.
Did u know that only slaves were working in the days of old, check history? The white elites were at home taking care of the prince and princess until king or their elite husband return from work?! U don watch many slave films na..; kunta kinte, django etc
Do u know that if a man has a good wife, God fearing wife, for instance a president of a country who makes a policy that is bad for the economy, and if she is a good wife, and admonishes the husband about it, and he reasons with her, d next day, he reverses his bad policy to good, tell me, who is presiding who, (in)directly?!
Labusta, from ur posts, u just wanna feel western ni, nofin else, dat is all. Islam is perfect, and it gives women rights more dan the so called westerners.

Lagusta:


I am not, and can never westernize myself.....

At the same time, I can not, and can never be, a fanatic....

QED

RABIUSHILE04:


So it is 'westernize' , 'fanatic' u can only bring out from the post?! Following the Quran and sunnah without excesses and deficiencies is not fanatism. U need 2 stop rapporting wif dem shias and oda deviant sects. Seek Allaah's guidance.

RABIUSHILE04:

I think 'insanity' is a strong word. In the world u believe is sane like the US; do u know d number of rape that happens per day that is reported, and those that are not reported?! Also, the rate of abortion(killing foetus) in a single day?! Also many unspeakable disease that are transmitted per second there? Divorce rates? Do u know aw many people have been rendered homeless bcuz of them interest based loans?! Committing fornication at an early age of 7, 8, 9, 10 all in the name of 'olaju' , in the name of PROM?! The stats are there, compared to the so called insane countries u spoke about, the difference is clear, like the gap is 3rd mainland bridgely..e long gan?!?
If this is sanity to you, then..there is something wrong somewhere?

Seun:
As a muslim, would you prefer to live in an Islamic country governed by Islamic laws and principles, rather than a secular country which defends the rights of women, muslims, christians, atheists, lesbians, gays, scantily clad babes, drinkers, and all minorities, and treats them equally?

If your answer is 'yes,' what are some of the ways in which you feel that an Islamic country would be better for your life than a secular country?