Seun:
In light of the tragedy in France, which claimed 84 lives, I'd like to ask Nairaland muslims a very important question:

Is there something in Islam that makes it very easy for bad men to convince young muslim men to take part in evil terrorist attacks?

If so, what is it? And what should be done to permanently end the perpetration of terrorist acts by people who claim to be muslims?

madridguy:
To me, the tragedy in France is reprisal attack not Terrorist attack.

The only solution to be done to permanently end the perpetration of reprisal attack is for the self acclaimed WORLD POWER to leave MUSLIM countries alone. Why always them?

Iraq was a better country before the western country invaded Iraq. Libyan citizen once live like queen and king in their domain, they enjoy almost everything free of charge/subsidize rate before France led NATO turned Libya to Terrorist castle.

Now let ask ourselves, let put ourselves in the shoe of Iraqi and Libyan, do you think these people will be happy with their oppressor? I have a lot to say but my heart is too heavy now thinking how Iraqi's are killed every seconds with no media to fight for them.

Before you start calling me names, ask yourself this question; why are countries like Switzerland, Poland, Ukraine, Sweden, Austria, Luxembourg to mention few are exempted by the terrorist?

France and Belgium problem started the day they led NATO to Libya. America play indoor game in the invasion in Libya and they recorded the first casualties as the blood of their ambassador to Libya was wasted for the invasion. The frontiers, France and Belgium are still counting casualties.

Moral of the story, don't do EVIL.

There is room for constructive criticism and counter fact.

justwise:


Nigeria govt is not occupying any Muslim country but why do we have boke haram? Kenya is not occupying any muslim country but they have al-Shabaab, lets not go into this blame shifting and call a spade a spade.

madridguy:
Boko Haram is at result of hatred been preached to the lower class of the hausa by their elites.

As for Kenya, I will advise you to sit down and do your research how Kenya Government brought Al Shabaab to their domain. Before you quote me again, research on what I just said.

d. The Rules of Conduct of Jihad: The rules of conduct of jihad are summarized in the words of the Prophet Muhammad (S) : ‘Wage war but do not be severe, do not be treacherous, do not mutilate or kill children .’ The Prophet (S) also said on the day of the Conquest of Mecca: ‘Those retreating are not to be killed, nor are the injured to be harmed, and whoever shuts his door is safe.’
Similarly, when Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq prepared an army and sent it to the Levant, he said: ‘You will find people who have devoted themselves to monasteries, leave them to their devotions. You will also find others whose heads are seats for devils (i.e. armed deacons), so strike their necks. However, do not kill the old and decrepit, women or children; do not destroy buildings; do not cut
down trees or harm livestock without good cause; do not burn or drown palms; do not be treacherous; do not mutilate; do not be cowardly; and do not loot. And truly God will support those who support Him and His Messengers while not seeing Him. Truly, God is Strong, Mighty.’ As for killing prisoners, it is forbidden in Islamic Law.

MakeWeTalk:
Lets call a spade a spade, islam endorses violence.


Even muslims have started accepting it.
Listen to a moslem say that the problem is the quoran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Kmp-VHryI

Here are some of the verses that preaches violence

Sura 5:51
O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends.

SURA 4:89
So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

SURA 8:59
And let not those who disbelieve(Christians & Jews) suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.
SURA 8:60
Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others beside them whom ye know not. Allah knoweth them.

SURA 9:123
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers(Christians & Jews) who are near to you

SURA 2:190 Fight in the way of Allah
SURA 2:191 And slay them(Christians & Jews) wherever ye find them

Surah 9:5
When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.
SURA 9:29
Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day

SURA 9:123
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

justwise:


This is the problem..we always come up with one or two excuses to justify killing other other.

So because of hatred been preached to the lower class of the hausa by their elites a group came up to kill both hausas and Christians right?

Boko Haram did not kill only the elites in fact poorer hausas suffered more as they carried on their killing spree.

Don't tell me to sit down and research jack because i'm sick to my back teeth with some of you who always come up with these excuses.

MakeWeTalk:
Lets call a spade a spade, islam endorses violence.


Even muslims have started accepting it.
Listen to a moslem say that the problem is the quoran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Kmp-VHryI

Here are some of the verses that preaches violence

Sura 5:51
O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends.

SURA 4:89
So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

SURA 8:59
And let not those who disbelieve(Christians & Jews) suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.
SURA 8:60
Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others beside them whom ye know not. Allah knoweth them.

SURA 9:123
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers(Christians & Jews) who are near to you

SURA 2:190 Fight in the way of Allah
SURA 2:191 And slay them(Christians & Jews) wherever ye find them

Surah 9:5
When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.
SURA 9:29
Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day

SURA 9:123
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

Demmzy15:
Oga Seun--Islam is a well principled religion, it's universal in the sense that it encompasses all aspects of the human life and fit for all time(though, they might be minor changes to adjust to the modern times). Extremism and Terrorism is something the Prophet Muhammad(saw) warned against, he mentioned that those before us were destroyed due to their "extremism", terrorism on the other hand cannot exist without Extremism because it's Extremism that fosters Terrorism.

That side, the diseases(extremism and terrorism) can be cured greatly by knowledge. When I say knowledge I don't mean knowing Qur'anic verses or Hadith sayings, it's way beyond that. Usamah Ibn Ladin the father of Al Qaeda which give birth to ISIS was reported not having the adequate Islamic knowledge, Sheikh Khaled Al Ankary states about Bin Ladin:

In his educational transcripts, he had only eight credit hours in religious studies! I was brought up in Saudi Arabia and attended the 10th grade but was never taught from a textbook that said such things; and there is no such teaching today. This sounds like a quote taken out of context.

Documentary ‘Undercover Mosque’ for Dispatches on Channel 4 (UK) on 15 January 2007!

In fact when you look at many profiles of today's terrorists, many of them have troubled life. The two perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo killings were known to be drug dealers and rappers, some ISIS fighters are known to be club bouncers, etc. They never had pure and correct Islamic knowledge, even those who have but tend to be extreme are those following their desires!

Furthermore, when you acquire knowledge, you should know that suicide is prohibited in Islam, no two ways about that. It was in the ancient times that most men are killed because they're considered soldiers but today it's not like that anymore, we have standard armies so you have no right to kill men who are civilians. Many of this terrorists don't know this.

Another point we need to consider is that; rebellion is to be avoided. True scholars have warned that rebelling against a leader is to be avoided, there's a wisdom behind, and I hope you reason with me. Qaddafi for example, was Libya better off after he was overthrown? Syria is currently in a turmoil, Yemen too, South Sudan and many other countries. The reason is because there's a greater harm that comes, there's blood shed, oppression and in fact peace is not even guaranteed when the leader is removed!

Lastly, Muslim youths need to stick with the correct and true scholars not scholars who speak with both of their mouths ie that say something here and something entirely different on the other side.

Lemme give you an example, when the 9/11 attack happened, many scholars condemned the actions. The true scholars condemned utmostly suicide bombing of any kind and that those who partake in this gruesome tactic are doomed for hell because it's based on something haram, but some other supposed scholars(sorry I won't be giving examples) condemned the attack of 9/11 but support the Palestinians engaging in suicide bombings!?

Now this two issues I mentioned up is not complex at all, the true scholars condemned suicide bombings against Israel not because they love Israel or are it's allies but because one suicide bombing against Israel results to killings of many more Muslims and besides suicide is haram in Islam. So when a Palestinian blows himself up in Israel killing 6 Israelis, the IDF retaliates by killing 25 Palestinians and demolitions of homes of other innocent Palestinian, now look at how the harm superceded the good. This is the wisdom behind some of this prohibitions!

But the other scholars support the suicide bombing, not thinking of the repercussions and not knowing that it's passed on something which is haram.

# Hope this helps, I'll be modifying if anything else comes up!

lexiconkabir:
@seun This is what i subscribe to ↓↓↓

Lagusta:


Oga how far nah, long time, hope u good sir!!!

Lagusta:


Oga Seun this one has answered your question, so please close down the thread......

Jazaakumullah khairan dear brother, I love you for the sake of Allah!!!

youngaz:
hmmm @Seun thanks for askin dat question....Islam doesn't teach terrorism...and there are no 2 ways diz pple get their evil deeds dan to brainwash d pple dey wanna use for d attacks...for example,Donald Trump is always attacking Muslims weneva there's an attack...dey might save a clip of it,den dey will show it to dem and say tins like..,"can u see ao he's abusing us??......can u hear wat he said abt u.....u're a muslim are u gonna allow im to keep sayin diz?....he's attacking Islam,are u gonna allow dat?"...and so on dey might even bring a verse in d Qur'an dat says if some one attacks u fight im in d course of Allah...yes there are some verses lyk dat in Qur'an bt...u must nt attack who doesn't attack u....even during war u're allowed to fight in self "defence" and dnt kill women and Children...bt all diz pple kill women,use children for suicide bombings,use women as suicide bombers....dey are attacking dose dat didn't attack dem....dey said dey are fighting in Allah's course bt who is capable of fighting for God...hmmm....dey are just misled pple and lest we 4get.....nt all attacks are done by muslim wills (u can ask me why)

Lagusta:


Now listen to yourself.....

Have you forgotten that boko haram has bombed mosques too, at least do not forget the Kano mosque bombing.....

Now another assignment for you: go and research why and how boko haram started their bombings.... with the al-shabaab.....

And if you refuse then stay brainwashed for life!!!!

Demmzy15:
Oga Seun--Islam is a well principled religion, it's universal in the sense that it encompasses all aspects of the human life and fit for all time(though, they might be minor changes to adjust to the modern times). Extremism and Terrorism is something the Prophet Muhammad(saw) warned against, he mentioned that those before us were destroyed due to their "extremism", terrorism on the other hand cannot exist without Extremism because it's Extremism that fosters Terrorism.

That side, the diseases(extremism and terrorism) can be cured greatly by knowledge. When I say knowledge I don't mean knowing Qur'anic verses or Hadith sayings, it's way beyond that. Usamah Ibn Ladin the father of Al Qaeda which give birth to ISIS was reported not having the adequate Islamic knowledge, Sheikh Khaled Al Ankary states about Bin Ladin:

In his educational transcripts, he had only eight credit hours in religious studies! I was brought up in Saudi Arabia and attended the 10th grade but was never taught from a textbook that said such things; and there is no such teaching today. This sounds like a quote taken out of context.

Documentary ‘Undercover Mosque’ for Dispatches on Channel 4 (UK) on 15 January 2007!

In fact when you look at many profiles of today's terrorists, many of them have troubled life. The two perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo killings were known to be drug dealers and rappers, some ISIS fighters are known to be club bouncers, etc. They never had pure and correct Islamic knowledge, even those who have but tend to be extreme are those following their desires!

Furthermore, when you acquire knowledge, you should know that suicide is prohibited in Islam, no two ways about that. It was in the ancient times that most men are killed because they're considered soldiers but today it's not like that anymore, we have standard armies so you have no right to kill men who are civilians. Many of this terrorists don't know this.

Another point we need to consider is that; rebellion is to be avoided. True scholars have warned that rebelling against a leader is to be avoided, there's a wisdom behind, and I hope you reason with me. Qaddafi for example, was Libya better off after he was overthrown? Syria is currently in a turmoil, Yemen too, South Sudan and many other countries. The reason is because there's a greater harm that comes, there's blood shed, oppression and in fact peace is not even guaranteed when the leader is removed!

Lastly, Muslim youths need to stick with the correct and true scholars not scholars who speak with both of their mouths ie that say something here and something entirely different on the other side.

Lemme give you an example, when the 9/11 attack happened, many scholars condemned the actions. The true scholars condemned utmostly suicide bombing of any kind and that those who partake in this gruesome tactic are doomed for hell because it's based on something haram, but some other supposed scholars(sorry I won't be giving examples) condemned the attack of 9/11 but support the Palestinians engaging in suicide bombings!?

Now this two issues I mentioned up is not complex at all, the true scholars condemned suicide bombings against Israel not because they love Israel or are it's allies but because one suicide bombing against Israel results to killings of many more Muslims and besides suicide is haram in Islam. So when a Palestinian blows himself up in Israel killing 6 Israelis, the IDF retaliates by killing 25 Palestinians and demolitions of homes of other innocent Palestinian, now look at how the harm superceded the good. This is the wisdom behind some of this prohibitions!

But the other scholars support the suicide bombing, not thinking of the repercussions and not knowing that it's passed on something which is haram.

# Hope this helps, I'll be modifying if anything else comes up!

justwise:


Dude you are not just confused, how does bombing a mosque in the name of holy war and killing many people bring about peace?

Why must it be bombing and beheading every time certain people get provoked?

There is no other way of resolving issues apart from killing others who disagreed with you?

This is not about muslims as a whole, this is about certain individuals with a twisted ideology

hahn:


Why can't Muslims stage a protest to remove these pages out of the Quran and thus ensure a reduction in the violence?

If Allah indeed motivated the Quran, then why exactly did he allow such verses to be there in the first place?

If everything is Allah's will then Allah is comfortable with Muslims killing "infidels", right?

hahn:


Why can't Muslims stage a protest to remove these pages out of the Quran and thus ensure a reduction in the violence?

If Allah indeed motivated the Quran, then why exactly did he allow such verses to be there in the first place?

If everything is Allah's will then Allah is comfortable with Muslims killing "infidels", right?

Lagusta:


Lovely question!!!!

You see, that was how the Bible became corrupted to suit the Romans......

Please note that these verses of the Quran are grossly misinterpreted.....

It's only people with sound knowledge of the Quran and Hadith that can do an explanation and commentary of the Glorious Quran.....

Even I can't attempt it, so we other Muslims follow the translation and commentary of the renowned scholars of Quran like tafsir ibn katheer....

And that is why you see mainstream Muslims (about 99% of the population) preaching peace instead of war...

youngaz:
lol....thank u 4 asking...now dnt get me wrong,dose verses are there wit reasons and conditions why u shuld do it...u just dnt kill and say u're doin it for Allah....there are reasons and conditions....bt most pple dnt read at length...dey will just read d part dat says "kill in d course of Allah" without reading further....if u read d verse b4 or afta dose ones u'll see d criterias....u just dnt kill anyhow,Islam doesn't teach dat

hahn:


And the Quran hasn't been corrupted?

Why will Allah give us something we cannot explain or understand in simple terms? And why is tafsir ibn katheer the only one who can translate the Quran? Are you trying to say the rest of us cannot read and understand? Unlike Christians, Muslims do not have a "holy spirit" to reveal things to them. Who is now revealing his own versions to him?

99% seriously?

hahn:


Quote the full verse here and let us review it then

youngaz:
nah...am nt a religion fanatic....i dnt no dem off hand bt i can search it for u later and post d verses here...Islam truly teaches "Peace" as d name implies...nt even all of diz attacks are done by d wills of some muslims,security agencies will arrest a terrorist and broadcast izz name saying he's a Muslim....lezz take 4 example there was a tym wen one Abdul-Kareem sumtin was arrested wen he wanted to carry out one of dose bombings,guess wat he said wen he was interrogated....he said some govt officials "fighting 4 power" wanted to destroy their opponents base...shuld i continue??