This world is indeed a complex place. You might be forced to agree after hearing this account. A friend, Joe (not real name) came to me lust in thought about what to do. According to him, he had finalized every wedding arrangement including printing of invitation cards, etc only to be invited by his pastor last week. On getting there, the pastor requested for his TITHE CARD. Unfortunately, he was one of those who doesn't subscribe to owning a tithe card, even though, he is a tither. So, when he couldn't provide his pastor with the tithe card, the pastor bluntly informed him that he can't conduct the wedding ceremony without that record. After much pleading and negotiations including involving some family members, his fiancée, etc. The pastor finally gave him an option of paying accumulated tithe. A two years back log was calculated for him, amounting to hundreds of thousands. Which must be paid before the wedding can hold.

Now the issues is that, Joe doesn't feel pleased been subjected to such conditions. However, to shoulder such task, Joe suggested cutting down some of the wedding activities/expenses but his fiancée didn't accept it. And he didn't quite conform to holding the wedding in his fiancée's church because of the small size of the church building which is even undergoing construction work. Some of his family members are even suggesting to just go for registry after the traditional marriage and forget about the white wedding. All these issues are what is giving him worries.

Please, your matured advise/opinions will be greatly appreciated. The wedding is suppose to hold 20th of this Month. Yet, no valid conclusion is reached.

Which church?

micfoley:
Which church?

It is one of this new generational pentecostal church, I intensionally didn't want to mention name.
What should he do?

Cc Mynd44, Seun, lalasticlala your attention is needed to help a fellow come out of his misery

Churches and their founders are thieves. This is just the beginning for the downfall of religion. Muafrika2, Winner01, Mrzenographer and 4evergod, come and see things that are going to make more people lose their religion with time. I heard that they also did same thing in OYAKHILOME'S CHURCH. And some years back, I heard that Lord's Chosen Church demanded 100k from a poor guy who wanted to have his wedding ceremony also.


By 2018, many people would have dumped religion to use their own brains to think clearly 100%
See the reason here: https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

*sighs*

Whatever I say now will sound like I'm against your church / religion so I'll just keep quiet and observe.

But just so you know, nobody can try that with me. I don waka!

What are you trying to hide? Why not name the church and the minister in charge?

I hope the guy is not owing then an ought but God.

Ok

name the church

Some Pastors see themselves as God. Why not?
They have men under their control and have continued to over burden them with heavy yokes.
They have men that worship them.
The principle of No card, no wedding, no burial, no naming ceremony is man's design It doesn't concern God

What happened to going to another church to have your wedding.
Or go to a marriage registry instead and let your parents give you their blessings.

Which kind thing b dis one

Na d pastor get d tithe abi na God

Even if d man no dey pay him no go leave d man with God


I no want vex abeg

Op i smell lies.

Seriously, religion is becoming something else. I created this thread, so that I can just simply refer him here for your advise/opinion/comment. Because I am even angry with the whole thing. I equally heard of one particular church that will even ask for bank statement before approving to wed any couple, especially if the female is their member.

Please pardon my not revealing the name of the church and pastor. Want to leave that to the members to decide. However, The church is located in my state here in Edo State (Benin City).

Its simple. Ask real questions.

Is tithing mandatory?

Will Jesus demand such?

Is that the only church around?

You can as well tell a new convert at age 80 to pay all the tithe he has owed for 80 years.

crap!!

Op. Tell your friend, he is the only one that can cancel his marriage.

The answer to these real questions:

winner01:
Is tithing mandatory?

There is absolutely no part of the Bible that says tithing is mandatory/compulsory. It was an old testament concept to support national worship in Israel and help the poor by donating 10%..we are not under any obligation like that.

"Let each one [give] as he has made up his own mind and purposed in his heart, not reluctantly or sorrowfully or under compulsion , for God loves a cheerful giver." (2 Cor 9:7)

The Bible promotes cheerful giving, not necessarily tithing. And abeg how does the pastor expect someone to pay a total of 2 years tithe in a cheerful manner?

If you've been giving tithe, that is good, but let it be because you've chosen to give cheerfully to the church, and not because you take it as a compulsory task; it is not by force.

Will Jesus demand such?

No..not at all

Is that the only church around?

No

It's disturbing how some pastors have managed to pervert the true message of the Bible into something else entirely. If anyone's noticed, people who frown at Christianity are actually frowning at those who interprete Christianity wrongly.

Does your bible say you must do wedding celebration in the church. okay o. no do your wedding because of one barawoniya

Strawman:
The answer to these "real questions":


There is absolutely no part of the Bible that says tithing is mandatory/compulsory. It was an old testament concept to support national worship in Israel and help the poor by donating 10%..we are not under any obligation like that.

"Let each one [give] as he has made up his own mind and purposed in his heart, not reluctantly or sorrowfully or under compulsion , for God loves a cheerful giver." (2 Cor 9:7)

The Bible promotes cheerful giving, not necessarily tithing. And abeg how does the pastor expect someone to pay a total of 2 years tithe in a cheerful manner?

If you've been giving tithe, that is good, but let it be because you've chosen to give cheerfully to the church, and not because you take it as a compulsory task; it is not by force.



No..not at all



No

It's disturbing how some pastors have managed to pervert the true message of the Bible into something else entirely. If anyone's noticed, people who frown at Christianity are actually frowning at those who interprete Christianity wrongly.

God bless you Bro.

There was no where in the bible Jesus asked those he healed if they paid their tithe..

Tithe is a personal race with ur God.

OP, I feel like calling that ur friend an End Time f00l...

If nah me, god punish me if I say another word to that pastor or ve anything to do with that church..

Advise ur supposedly friend to go get it done in his galz church afterall who church wedding don Epp..

Suspecting that church wey nah jerry curl the pastors dey carry...

Is that Church an extension of the inland revenue service?

Nobody is worshiping GOD but devil, all religions is a scam and death to humanity... I only see scientists as the sons and daughters of GOD not those useless pastors and imams,Nigeria as one of the top 3 most religious country in the world should be near to paradise but first hell on earth......people like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Angelina Jolie etc are men and women of GOD, those people that use their hard earned money to support poor countries,while some useless wretched pastors still extort money from their poor members to enriched themselves,and one of them will build school that almost 95% of his members can't afford... There are millions of churches in Nigeria, they are just there for nothing but to collect ur money and tags kids as witch, the only way government can reduced those useless house of god is to make a law that will enable them to pay taxes because they are also an organisation.

Really

Pay d backlog of tithes or go to another small church and wed. It is dt simple.

His two yrs accumulated tithe would nt b less than 250k ur pastor don finally catch u

Na to Sue that church for collateral damage after fixing my wedding date!

However if I have like 2-3 weeks interval before that day, na to change church and do my thing jejely!

opium for the masses

jamex93:
Which kind thing b dis one

Na d pastor get d tithe abi na God

Even if d man no dey pay him no go leave d man with God


I no want vex abeg

Men after their stomach! Whose god is their belly!

Romans 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

OP is it Living Faith? I know we have tithe cards. Let me know

Mr Man, mention the name of the financial institution.

Hmmmm..... Scam is scamming the scam nowadays. Na wa

If you agree to be a member of any group, social or religious, you must play by the rules of the group. No be by force to be a member.

Hian

Unfortunately, he was one of those who doesn't subscribe to owning a tithe card, even though, he is a tither. So, when he couldn't provide his pastor with the tithe card, the pastor bluntly informed him that he can't conduct the wedding ceremony without that record. After much pleading and negotiations including involving some family members, his fiancée, etc. The pastor finally gave him an option of paying accumulated tithe. A two years back log was calculated for him, amounting to hundreds of thousands. Which must be paid before the wedding can hold.








if truly he is a tither, is it a must to be in that church?? why not the other way round?? Two years of accumulated tithe! o ga o