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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Godemcee(m): 6:24pm On Aug 21, 2016
It would have been a good idea,but sorry babe it can't succed in a country like nigeria with diffrent tribes nd full of tribalistic people.we not yet practising socialism some people are already screaming marginalisation,now imagine what they would scream if the goverment control all industry nd companies in nigeria.
The west is nt nigeria or africa problem,africans and nigeria are the ones doing themself
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:26pm On Aug 21, 2016
Admin401:


wrong. China practices monopolistic capitalism and to some degree fascism, There is almost nothing left of Mao's dream of a socialist state.
fascism is more of a socio-political ideology, am talking abt economics.
Monopolitics capitalism is just a cover name, China is more of a Socialist state.
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:28pm On Aug 21, 2016
Godemcee:
It would have been a good idea,but sorry babe it can't succed in a country like nigeria with diffrent tribes nd full of tribalistic people.we not yet practising socialism some people are already screaming marginalisation,now imagine what they would scream if the goverment control all industry nd companies in nigeria.
The west is nt nigeria or africa problem,africans and nigeria are the ones doing themself
then implementing it in a restructed Nigeria will be the key then.
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:31pm On Aug 21, 2016
ConqueredWest:



Is it the British that will support a referendum or the nations that makes up Nigeria that will seek for referendum.

Besides

Is it the British that told Buhari to arrest Nnamdi Kanu.?


Pls leave the whites allow.
ok o. Oga Ipob.
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:32pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
fascism is more of a socio-political ideology, am talking abt economics.
Monopolitics capitalism is just a cover name, China is more of a Socialist state.

what we have here is an argument without proof
lets compare the United States (a known capitalist country) with china.
China is MORE capitalist than the US. In fact, compared to China America almost looks like a socialist state.

China's has very few business regulations. The media is heavily censored, human rights are restricted, but business is far less hogtied by red tape than in the US or Europe.

Beijing is a soft touch government as far as environmental laws are concerned, and for copyright, too. There is little corporation tax, and small businesses have far more freedom than in the US (Workers have few rights, zoning laws are relaxed, and many can get away with only paying the barest minimum of tax). So it's easier to set up in business in China than it is in the US, and far cheaper. China's also in the WTO and has MFN status with the US.

Internally, China's markets are also freer than in the US. For example, in the US each state has its own tax laws and moving goods between states is almost like moving them between different countries (Think alcohol). In China, this isn't a problem.

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by knight05(m): 6:34pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
dnt understand sir.
read wat d guy said abt calabar youth
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by ConqueredWest: 6:34pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
ok o. Oga Ipob.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt

Pls read this. It will help you to see how the Soviet Union allowed each union to secede peacefully

The whites are not our problem but greed for another's tribe resources.

Socialism will only worsen matters for Nigerians.

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by BlackSeptember: 6:36pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
Socialism was working for Ghana under Kwame Krumah then until the Western evil CIA fought him off power.
.. Gaddafi tried it in Libya, USA CIA eliminated him and destabilised Libya.
Same thing in Venezuela during the reign of Hugo Chavez.
Socialim failed in Ghana with attendant corruption that took root there. Read *The Beautiful ones are not yet born* to get a little grasp of it.


Ada, pray tell what happened to Nigeria Airways, Nitel, NNPC, and others that went under because government is a bad manager.



Ada the nepotism in Nigeria will make socialism to fail because it ll be one sided.


Ada, this government is indirectly practising socialism with the economy but capitalism in the political sphere.



Ada, Socialism is evil and its not attainable in this changing world. Check out Cuba Venezuela and some eastern European countries who are still bogged down by socialist economy

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:36pm On Aug 21, 2016
Admin401:


what we have here is an argument without proof
lets compare the United States (a known capitalist country) with china.
China is MORE capitalist than the US. In fact, compared to China America almost looks like a socialist state.

China's has very few business regulations. The media is heavily censored, human rights are restricted, but business is far less hogtied by red tape than in the US or Europe.

Beijing is a soft touch government as far as environmental laws are concerned, and for copyright, too. There is little corporation tax, and small businesses have far more freedom than in the US (Workers have few rights, zoning laws are relaxed, and many can get away with only paying the barest minimum of tax). So it's easier to set up in business in China than it is in the US, and far cheaper. China's also in the WTO and has MFN status with the US.

Internally, China's markets are also freer than in the US. For example, in the US each state has its own tax laws and moving goods between states is almost like moving them between different countries (Think alcohol). In China, this isn't a problem.
I love ur intelligence, keep it up sir!
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:41pm On Aug 21, 2016
BlackSeptember:
Socialim failed in Ghana with attendant corruption that took root there. Read *The Beautiful ones are not yet born* to get a little grasp of it.


Ada, pray tell what happened to Nigeria Airways, Nitel, NNPC, and others that went under because government is a bad manager.



Ada the nepotism in Nigeria will make socialism to fail because it ll be one sided.


Ada, this government is indirectly practising socialism with the economy but capitalism in the political sphere.



Ada, Socialism is evil and its not attainable in this changing world. Check out Cuba Venezuela and some eastern European countries who are still bogged down by socialist economy
I disagree.
Socialism in the hand of an Excellent government with integrity will 100% work.
Diversification is a must in socialism, Imperalist who hid behing foreign investorz are kicked out.
GDP Rate is skyrocketed, Resource control esp. In mining sector wil be in the hands of govt.
Rate of Middle class family rising wil be high. More and more
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:42pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
I love ur intelligence, keep it up sir!

wink
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:44pm On Aug 21, 2016
ConqueredWest:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt

Pls read this. It will help you to see how the Soviet Union allowed each union to secede peacefully

The whites are not our problem but greed for another's tribe resources.

Socialism will only worsen matters for Nigerians.
Okay I wil go through it. But don't you that wil be the case in biafra?
Esp. Among Non-Igbo tribes.. Y leaving a Multiethnic country to join another Multiethnic country?
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by arushiuga(m): 6:47pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
AFRICA IS IN REVOLT. From East to West, from North to South, the peoples of this great Continent are arising to claim their birthright that has been stolen.
The imperialist Powers and the White minorities are being forced to give up the land and the natural resources. Africans are uniting in powerful national liberation movements and trade unions.
....
The imperialists are trying to prolong their rule.
They send soldiers to shoot down the people.
They try to bribe the people's leaders. When that does not work they arrest and deport them on framed-up charges. They invent faked 'treason' charges and 'massacre' plots. They promise half independence, or self-government on the instalment plan.

....

These methods cannot succeed. Africa is on the march for freedom, her people are awake, and nothing can stop them from reaching their goal: government of Africa by Africans for Africans. The imperialist powers must quit Africa. The White minorities must accept the condition of equality and give up their ill-gotten privileges.
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What shape will the new Africa take? Will it be capitalist, like Western Europe and America? Or socialist, like Eastern Europe, the Soviet Union and China ? That is something the peoples of this Continent will have to answer for themselves.
It is a big question.
....
Let us look at the two systems.
TWO SYSTEMS
We know capitalism in Africa. We have seen it and suffered under it.
Under capitalism, the land, the natural resources and the industries, built up by the hands of the workers, belong to private owners or companies. Each owner is producing not for the public good but for his private profit. He pays as little wages as he can and wants to take as much as possible for himself.
Take a capitalist who is making shoes in a factory. He is not worried about the people who are barefoot.
He wants to make a lot of money and get rich.
All the profit he makes comes out of the exploitation of the workers, for all value comes from labour. Capitalism means the exploitation of man by man.
.....
Socialism is different. All the means of production - the land, the mines, factories and so on - belong to the Government as a whole.
Production is planned. The aim is to see that everyone gets good food to eat, clothes to wear, houses to live in.
The aim of production and of society, is to see that people are happy and comfortable, that they are highly educated and cultured.
The worker knows that no capitalist profits from his labour.
Government Own All Industries, Companies and Services in the country.
Example, All phones that will be used in Nigeria will be produced by a govt. Phone industry in Abuja.. Nothing like a foreign phone companies like Tecno or Samsung etc.
The country goes ahead quickly because development is properly planned. Socialism means the abolition of exploitation.
....
Experience has proved that socialism is the most suitable method of quickly developing countries which are economically backward.
.....
In ten short years, socialism and Communist leadership have transformed China from a land of terrible backwardness, illiteracy and poverty, to a land of flourishing industry and agriculture, of advanced education and progress.
India and China won freedom from imperialist rule at about the same time. But India chose the capitalist road; China the socialist road. Today China has far outstripped India in economic progress.
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WHY THE WESTERN IMPERIALISTS HATE SOCIALISM IN AFRICA.
If Africa kicks out Capitalism and embrace socialism.
1. There will be a fast rise in Local made products by Govt. Industries.
2. Multinationals who are with imperalist mission will be kicked out.
3. Diversification of Economy is a Sure Certainty in Socialism.
4. The gap between the Rich and the Poor will be Drawn close.
5. Importation of many foreign products will stop.
6. Value of Currency will be strong.
7. Employment opportunities will skyrocket.
I can go on and on.
Africa countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Ghana etc should give Socialism a chance.
- Adaure4ever.
I love capitalism.
Socialism is for lazy people.
Government cannot provide everything for us.
I love Adaure
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by ConqueredWest: 6:49pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
I disagree.
Socialism in the hand of an Excellent government with integrity will 100% work.
Diversification is a must in socialism, Imperalist who hid behing foreign investorz are kicked out.
GDP Rate is skyrocketed, Resource control esp. In mining sector wil be in the hands of govt.
Rate of Middle class family rising wil be high. More and more

Have you read the link I gave you

Pls answer these other questions

Is it the British that told Buhari to practice nepotism.?

Is it the British that told Buhari to fight the militants while ignoring the Fulani herdsmen.?


The first solution to develop Africa is for us to change our demonic way of reasoning.

Ask yourself why Boris Yeltsin of Soviet Union and Cameron of Britain never forced the Ukrainians and Scots respectively.?

I asked again, is it the whites that told Buhari to jail Nnamdi Kanu when themselves clearly supported peaceful secession. cool
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by thedarkside: 6:51pm On Aug 21, 2016
martinsadnan11:
Africa adopt socialism?it can never happen,,,#blackmanblackmentality.

he is missing a point...its not about the system,its about the mentality....we need a militaristic-theocratical-system...

we are stubborn-headed and very spiritual.....capitalism or socialism is not going to help anything..
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:54pm On Aug 21, 2016
ConqueredWest:


Have you read the link I gave you

Pls answer these other questions

Is it the British that told Buhari to practice nepotism.?

Is it the British that told Buhari to fight the militants while ignoring the Fulani herdsmen.?


The first solution to develop Africa is for us to change our demonic way of reasoning.

Ask yourself why Boris Yeltsin of Soviet Union and Cameron of Britain never forced the Ukrainians and Scots respectively.?

I asked again, is it the whites that told Buhari to jail Nnamdi Kanu when themselves clearly supported peaceful secession. cool
you are comparing Africa with western nations.
YES, It is the British that detect things to Buhari in an imperal way, y did he visit 10 downing street before and after he won the election.
They coached Gowon during the war, Africa is stil under imperalism.
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:56pm On Aug 21, 2016
arushiuga:
I love capitalism. Socialism is for lazy people. Government cannot provide everything for us. I love Adaure
socialism for lazy people? Pls enlighten us.
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 6:58pm On Aug 21, 2016
thedarkside:


she is missing a point...its not about the system,its about the mentality....we need a militaristic-theocratical-system...

we are stubborn-headed and very spiritual.....capitalism or socialism is not going to help anything..
Thats dictatorship you are proposing.

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by thedarkside: 7:01pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
Thats dictatorship you are proposing.


yes....it sounds terrible to you,i know...but when you have soo much stubborn people around,you need a top dog,that nobody dares to piss off...

jonathan failed because of that,,,,everybody was daring him...

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Shiitposter: 7:07pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
I disagree.
Socialism in the hand of an Excellent government with integrity will 100% work.

Name just one country in this pale blue planet that has a government with 100% integrity?

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by arushiuga(m): 7:17pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
socialism for lazy people? Pls enlighten us.
Socialism makes citizens not to strive for success.
People will have to depend on government for everything.
I dont think you will like a socialist country if you end up in one.
I hope you are satisfied my love

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 7:22pm On Aug 21, 2016
thedarkside:



yes....it sounds terrible to you,i know...but when you have soo much stubborn people around,you need a top dog,that nobody dares to piss off...

jonathan failed because of that,,,,everybody was daring him...
so Buhari is the man with such an archaic and eristical trait?

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by BlackSeptember: 7:34pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
I disagree.
Socialism in the hand of an Excellent government with integrity will 100% work.
Diversification is a must in socialism, Imperalist who hid behing foreign investorz are kicked out.
GDP Rate is skyrocketed, Resource control esp. In mining sector wil be in the hands of govt.
Rate of Middle class family rising wil be high. More and more
Show me a countrybin Africa that socialism was successful? Socialism breeds laziness and it kills innovation

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Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by eddyroyal(m): 7:36pm On Aug 21, 2016
knight05:
see the tribalism we are condemning in 4-D. . i tire 4 nigerian and thier tribal mentatility. . who tell you say,person wey dey intelligent and no be calabar no go fit do am
OMO, you see well Abeg no be calabar that babe write oo. Read well. Shine your eyes. Or, can't you read?
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by knight05(m): 7:40pm On Aug 21, 2016
eddyroyal:
OMO, you see well Abeg no be calabar that nigga write oo. Read well. Shine your eyes. Or, can't you read?
OK noted
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by CSTR13: 7:42pm On Aug 21, 2016
Socialism is a lazy man's approach and does not help much in the long run. It is the kind of system you would find in islamic dominated hell-holes and backward monarchies and dictatorial governments.
It is not going to work in igboland and should not be encouraged.
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by AntiIPOOP(m): 7:47pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
Not a thing of Buhari.
But a rise of vibrant economists like Soludo or Akinwunmi Adesina to lead Nigeria and implement a Socialist policies in the economy.
Thats the secret of China.
Lol madam, go & sit down abeg
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by basilo101: 7:50pm On Aug 21, 2016
Nobody can defeat the forces of capitalism. i am happy my people are in full grasp of the capitalist ideology, the foriegn capitalist heavyweights must be give a run for their money in whatever litte way possible, let those who romance with the thoughts of socialist govt suffer the exploitation and complain like weaklings, . socialism breeds laziness and lack of motivation
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by thedarkside: 8:05pm On Aug 21, 2016
Adaure4ever:
so Buhari is the man with such an archaic and eristical trait?

jonathan was defitenitely not......look i dont care...i said,militaristic-theocratic.... do you even know what theocratic means...

we need a leader of a mixture between buhari and mbaka.....not too hard,not too soft....
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 9:09pm On Aug 21, 2016
eddyroyal:
OMO, you see well Abeg no be calabar that babe write oo. Read well. Shine your eyes. Or, can't you read?
lol. Nice 1
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by Nobody: 9:10pm On Aug 21, 2016
CSTR13:
Socialism is a lazy man's approach and does not help much in the long run. It is the kind of system you would find in islamic dominated hell-holes and backward monarchies and dictatorial governments.
It is not going to work in igboland and should not be encouraged.
your point taken.
Re: Reasons Why Africa Should Embrace Socialism Inorder To Develop. by bolt000(m): 12:44am On Aug 22, 2016

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